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| jelkner | Good morning z0nny and aantonio! | 08:27 |
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| jelkner | aantonio, you didn't reply to my last email. | 08:58 |
| jelkner | you need to pick a slot | 08:58 |
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| aantonio | good morning | 09:04 |
| aantonio | what slot | 09:04 |
| jelkner | read the email, sir ;-) | 09:16 |
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| mr_german | Hi, jelkner | 12:34 |
| mr_german | Hi zOnny ;-) | 12:43 |
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| jelkner | hello, mr_german | 14:50 |
| jelkner | is mjsir911 taking good care of you? | 14:50 |
| mr_german | I haven't spoken with him yet. jelkner | 15:02 |
| mr_german | did you see my email btw?, jelkner | 15:02 |
| jelkner | which one? | 15:03 |
| mr_german | I sent you an email yesterday | 15:03 |
| mr_german | nvm | 15:03 |
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| aantonio | hello, jelknor. Do you want me to come today because i have had an other meeting and i just finished it. but if there is important one, please tell me. | 15:06 |
| jelkner | aantonio, are you here? | 15:41 |
| jelkner | i just tried to call you. | 15:41 |
| jelkner | i was expecting to see you in class. | 15:41 |
| jelkner | it's thursday | 15:41 |
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| jelkner | mr_german, i did see the nvm email. | 15:43 |
| jelkner | i plan to do that site myself. | 15:43 |
| jelkner | and my goal is to do it *without* javascript | 15:43 |
| jelkner | since css3 makes more and more things possible without the need for js | 15:44 |
| jelkner | i will need your help to make the website bilingual | 15:44 |
| jelkner | which happens on the server, not the client, yes? | 15:44 |
| mr_german | jelkner, oh ok! sure | 15:47 |
| jelkner | in the mean time, you have a task - connect with mjsir911 to get evote going | 15:52 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, you here? | 15:54 |
| mjsir911 | old evote server here: https://evote.novawebdev.webfactional.com/evote | 15:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, back | 15:58 |
| mr_german | mjsir911, Can I use that server? | 16:01 |
| mjsir911 | yea its on novawebdev webfaction in webapps/evote/web2py/applications/evote/ | 16:02 |
| mr_german | mjsir911, do you have the admin password? | 16:09 |
| mjsir911 | no but ill try to generate an account for you, give me a moment | 16:12 |
| mr_german | ok | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | we should create a shared document with evote credentials | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | (if we don't have one already) | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | remember gentlemen, providers/credentials should land in shared documents | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XvlT5swH5FLAIRUr_mitqRq1z0_bca6q7GVF4vDjUuM/edit | 16:16 |
| mjsir911 | multiple users can be admins, so I'll probably just add a user and make it admin | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | has a way to change the admin password in web2py | 16:16 |
| mjsir911 | does evote use web2py password? | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | yes | 16:17 |
| mjsir911 | oh im looking in the wrong place then :P thanks | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, or not | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | i wrote this a while back | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | i remember Kevin tried to do something with it | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | so things may have changed | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | also | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | can someone turn privacy on on this please... | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | i didn't... | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, mr_german i don't know if that's easy to do | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | but we should traverse all the shared folder | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | and change everything to private | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | maybe there's a folder option of some kind | 16:19 |
| mjsir911 | I agree, whoevers owner can do that | 16:19 |
| mjsir911 | there is | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, you have ownership on the nova web dev shared folder, right? | 16:19 |
| mjsir911 | although this particular document doesnt have to be private does it? | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | no | 16:20 |
| replaceafill | but we should apply "all or nothing" | 16:20 |
| replaceafill | on our shared folder imo | 16:20 |
| replaceafill | in this case "nothing" :D | 16:20 |
| mjsir911 | replaceafill, you are owner but it seems i can change access permissions | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, sure | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | you have ownership of the parent folder | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | can you take that task? change permissions of everything to private? | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | it's not urgent | 16:21 |
| mjsir911 | sure but it'll be on backlog | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | but we should do it sooner rather than later | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, thanks | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | np | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, do you have a backlog doc? | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | how do you track your tasks? | 16:22 |
| mjsir911 | also i disagree, only the documents that should be confidential should be private, but we'll discuss next week | 16:22 |
| mjsir911 | i track my tasks poorly | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | in my experience if you leave a door open somehow... | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | someone will make a mistake | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | even if it's well trained | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | but sure | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | let's discuss it with the rest of the team | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | if they're* | 16:24 |
| mjsir911 | mr_german can you connect to the webfaction server and run `~/webapps/evote/bin/python -c "from gluon.main import save_password; save_password(raw_input('admin password: '), 80)"` to input a password? | 16:30 |
| mjsir911 | this is to set admin password | 16:31 |
| mr_german | ok wait | 16:32 |
| mr_german | let me try | 16:32 |
| mr_german | it says "ImportError: No module named gluon.main | 16:35 |
| mr_german | " | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | activate virtualenv first | 16:36 |
| mr_german | oh | 16:36 |
| mr_german | ok | 16:36 |
| mjsir911 | no you gotta be inside the path ~/webapps/evote/web2py | 16:36 |
| mjsir911 | `cd ~/webapps/evote/web2py` | 16:37 |
| mr_german | done it, I can access to it, replaceafill and mjsir911 | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, cool | 16:39 |
| mjsir911 | good, make sure you add an account for youself | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | from the top of my head | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | if you start testing emails | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | with gmail | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | try using the novawebdev account | 16:39 |
| mr_german | I created one already | 16:39 |
| mr_german | ok replaceafill | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | or if you use something different make sure you lower the security settings | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | i don't remember how that's called exactly | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | but it's that setting that allows you to connect to gmail from "not secure" apps | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, do you know the specific evote task you need to do? | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | did jelkner say something about it? | 16:44 |
| mr_german | "learn to use it and style it" | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | or is it like "learn to use it" | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | if i were you | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | i'd start with the last part | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | styling it | 16:45 |
| mr_german | i'll try | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | and try using a layout of an existing site | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | i think AEA is the main goal for this? | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | you could use that layout for start | 16:46 |
| mr_german | Ok! | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | but your client is jelkner | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | i'm just talking air as usual | 16:47 |
| jelkner | brb | 16:49 |
| jelkner | !remind 1. Discuss moving all sensitive customer data off Google Docs to an encrypted, accessible location (gpg?) | 17:13 |
| remindBot | will print 1. Discuss moving all sensitive customer data off Google Docs to an encrypted, accessible location (gpg?) at 2017-05-30 19:00:00 | 17:13 |
| jelkner | mr_german, 1st step is to learn to use this thing | 17:15 |
| jelkner | you can run votes with us as testers on things like: | 17:16 |
| jelkner | Which secure storage technology do you prefer? | 17:16 |
| jelkner | and several choices | 17:16 |
| jelkner | so we can vote | 17:16 |
| jelkner | we need to practice with it a bit | 17:16 |
| jelkner | so at first, you will leverage us as your users | 17:17 |
| mr_german | Ok, jelkner | 17:17 |
| mr_german | got it | 17:17 |
| jelkner | when you feel confident that you know how it works | 17:17 |
| jelkner | i want to talk to you about how hard it is to use | 17:17 |
| jelkner | if it is too hard to use, our customers won't be able to use it, and it may not make a good produce for us | 17:17 |
| jelkner | it it is reasonable, we should proceed to the next step | 17:18 |
| jelkner | AEA members have been asking for on-line voting | 17:18 |
| jelkner | so we can use them as our first "real world" testers | 17:18 |
| jelkner | but only after we test it first | 17:18 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think a good goal would be to have mr_german send a daily "election" | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | to the websters | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | during a period of days (say 5 days) | 17:19 |
| jelkner | +1 | 17:19 |
| jelkner | fantastic idea | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | and then discuss findings | 17:19 |
| jelkner | that would do it | 17:19 |
| mr_german | sound good for me | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | mr_german job would be to create the elections with items that exercise the different options | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | after he learns them ofc | 17:20 |
| mr_german | Can be anything? replaceafill ? | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | yeah, but something not so simple | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | i mean | 17:20 |
| jelkner | It could be anything | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | not an election with just one question | 17:21 |
| mr_german | Ok! | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | or just radio buttons questions | 17:21 |
| jelkner | but the most clever thing would be to ask about questions we really care about | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | games, hobbies, anything | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | political causes! | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:21 |
| mr_german | ;-) ok! | 17:21 |
| jelkner | true, things like pizza toppings are ok | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | i think we're more interested in testing the components | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | than finding the websters trends | 17:22 |
| jelkner | replacefill, let me also suggest that if we get opinions from our member about our coop. | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | in this step at least | 17:22 |
| jelkner | we can "kill two birds with one stone" as we say (poor birds always get killed :-( | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner why not second phase for that? | 17:22 |
| jelkner | example: what do you think the focus of our marketing should be? | 17:23 |
| jelkner | where do you think we should look for customers? | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | after mr_german is very familiar with the options/settings | 17:23 |
| jelkner | good point | 17:23 |
| jelkner | since in phase one, we may loose the data | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | indeed | 17:23 |
| jelkner | so we don't want data we care about | 17:23 |
| jelkner | got it | 17:23 |
| jelkner | phase two (when confidence in keeping the data is higher), we can use it to gather real information about ourselves | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | makes sense to me | 17:24 |
| jelkner | mr_german, make sense to you? | 17:24 |
| mr_german | jelkner, yep | 17:25 |
| jelkner | cool | 17:25 |
| jelkner | remember PWPC is priority number 1, but once there are no outstanding stories from them | 17:26 |
| jelkner | you can work on this | 17:26 |
| mr_german | sure | 17:26 |
| mr_german | jelkner, Do you have the password for nova gmail account? | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, it's in the shared folder | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | (somewhere) | 17:27 |
| jelkner | we need a better way! | 17:29 |
| jelkner | mjsir911 is looking into it | 17:29 |
| jelkner | we are growing | 17:29 |
| jelkner | and managing this information in a way that is: | 17:29 |
| jelkner | 1. effective | 17:30 |
| jelkner | 2. secure | 17:30 |
| jelkner | ok, i'm in class now and need to go | 17:31 |
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| mjsir911 | what was that parting message? | 17:32 |
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| mjsir911 | vim | 20:07 |
| mjsir911 | ignore that | 20:20 |
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