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| Big_Brother | Discuss process for SY2017-18 intern, including institutionalization and funding | 08:00 |
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| Big_Brother | Set up new Gallaudet contract? | 10:30 |
| replaceafill | good morning everyone | 10:30 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | good morning everyone | 10:31 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION yawns | 10:31 |
| ubuntourist | 'Mornin' | 10:31 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | Alright shall we begin from the top | 10:32 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I think that's you ubuntourist | 10:33 |
| ubuntourist | (SY = School year) | 10:33 |
| jelkner | ok, quickly | 10:33 |
| jelkner | last year i funded z0nny as an intern | 10:33 |
| jelkner | with the understanding it would run until june | 10:34 |
| jelkner | i would say it was a very successful "experiment" | 10:34 |
| jelkner | chris hedrick had a similar arrangement a few years back | 10:34 |
| jelkner | he is now a full time it professional | 10:34 |
| jelkner | so, i would like to do it again | 10:34 |
| jelkner | but i want to begin to institutionalize it | 10:34 |
| jelkner | with two goals: | 10:35 |
| jelkner | 1. make it something nova web does and not me | 10:35 |
| jelkner | 2. look into fund raising for it | 10:35 |
| jelkner | i have a student in mind | 10:35 |
| jelkner | i would like louie to interview him | 10:35 |
| jelkner | and all of us to approve the internship | 10:35 |
| jelkner | (moving toward democracy within our organization) | 10:36 |
| jelkner | thoughts? | 10:36 |
| replaceafill | we will need some approval criteria? | 10:37 |
| mjsir911 | sounds good, how do you propose we all gain enough knowledge about this person to approve / disapprove? | 10:37 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, you and lelkneralfaro_ can work on that, yes? | 10:37 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I think this is a good place to introduce the idea | 10:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah i see | 10:37 |
| replaceafill | yes, it's a good way to start that | 10:38 |
| jelkner | mjsir911, in part, you are trusting me, since i am nominating students who have shown the following: | 10:38 |
| jelkner | 1. professionalism | 10:38 |
| jelkner | 2. initiative | 10:38 |
| jelkner | z0nny can tell his story | 10:38 |
| ubuntourist | What happens if more than one candidate (not necessarily from Arlington) is proposed? | 10:38 |
| jelkner | i've talked to him about why i made the offer to him last year | 10:38 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, that is for later i think | 10:39 |
| jelkner | we are still in the early stages | 10:39 |
| jelkner | i am funding | 10:39 |
| jelkner | my criteria includeds arlington community high school | 10:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, when would you want the intern to start "working" with us? | 10:41 |
| replaceafill | SY2017-2018 doesn't tell me much about that | 10:41 |
| jelkner | school year 2017-18 | 10:42 |
| jelkner | from now til june | 10:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah ok, got it | 10:42 |
| jelkner | soon | 10:42 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I think this conversation can be continued through email now | 10:42 |
| jelkner | yes | 10:42 |
| jelkner | +1 | 10:42 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 10:42 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | cool. next point | 10:42 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | crowdfunding models... | 10:43 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | well after we get some initial products | 10:44 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | in the case of funding students we already have two supporting cases | 10:44 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | and in terms of our software for progressive organizations we are getting close to having something to show | 10:44 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | in the case of websites we already have products | 10:45 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | but with other software we still need some wokr | 10:45 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | *work | 10:45 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro_, that's already a lot to show, though | 10:45 |
| jelkner | do we need to wait for more? | 10:45 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | no, I don't think so. | 10:46 |
| ubuntourist | I'm waiting for the video of Dragana presenting my software in Oslo... While not web-related it may have advertising potential. | 10:46 |
| ubuntourist | (That was recorded by the conference organizers, and I haven't heard any word on release date.) | 10:47 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | it simply means that finding additional candidates/campaigns to provide websites for, and this time asking them to pay, is the next step | 10:47 |
| jelkner | is this a good time to mention skillsusa? | 10:47 |
| jelkner | since that's why i put it on the agenda | 10:47 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | go for it | 10:48 |
| jelkner | z0nny will be participating | 10:48 |
| jelkner | along with 5 other students | 10:48 |
| jelkner | we have been talking about how it is getting us ready to be professionals | 10:48 |
| jelkner | in the contest, you have no internet and 4 hours to develop a website | 10:48 |
| jelkner | you are allowed to bring anything you want on your own laptop | 10:49 |
| jelkner | so it is all about having a tool box filled with templates and tools ready to go | 10:49 |
| jelkner | we discussed this with Rena too | 10:49 |
| jelkner | if we want to get candidates to pay us | 10:49 |
| jelkner | we need to be cheap | 10:50 |
| jelkner | that means we need to be fast | 10:50 |
| jelkner | if it takes days or weeks to create a simple website | 10:50 |
| jelkner | the folks we want to reach out to can't afford us | 10:50 |
| jelkner | and we are miserable too | 10:50 |
| jelkner | if we can learn to knock out a website in a few hours | 10:51 |
| jelkner | we can do lots | 10:51 |
| ubuntourist | When is it? (How much lead time to find and become facile with good tools?) | 10:51 |
| zOnny | that is reasonable in terms of time and profesionalism. | 10:51 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i don't know | 10:52 |
| jelkner | i have an idea what it needs to look like, but no idea how to get there | 10:52 |
| jelkner | except practice, practice, practice | 10:52 |
| jelkner | same way you get to carnagie hall ;-) | 10:52 |
| replaceafill | :D | 10:52 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | only complication I see with that, especially if the sites can be produced quickly and cheaply (not complicated expensive designs) is finding enough customers to provide significant income | 10:53 |
| jelkner | i'm sorrry ubuntourist | 10:53 |
| jelkner | the regional is either jan 26 or 29 | 10:53 |
| jelkner | the state is late april | 10:53 |
| jelkner | nationals is in june | 10:53 |
| jelkner | they may make it to nationals | 10:53 |
| jelkner | since not many va teams compete | 10:54 |
| jelkner | most of the action is in california | 10:54 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | next item | 10:55 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | no mr_german or Rena though | 10:56 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | so I'll talk to them about this elsewhere | 10:56 |
| jelkner | HUUGE shout out to nrcerna on her beautiful poster work last week! | 10:56 |
| nrcerna | Thanks, jelkner | 10:57 |
| ubuntourist | Last item: I guess more for lelkneralfaro_ and I, but its time to talk with Gallaudet about contract. Not much more to say about that. | 10:57 |
| jelkner | i've printed it, nrcerna, it will be up on the wall tomorrow | 10:57 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | ubuntourist, well I hope that we can get together soon to chat about it | 10:57 |
| ubuntourist | And two minutes to spare! Yay! | 10:58 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | great! | 10:58 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | any last additions? | 10:58 |
| jelkner | i'll stay to talk with replaceafill about tendenci | 10:58 |
| jelkner | but after | 10:58 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | in that case... | 10:59 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 10:59 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | see you all next week | 10:59 |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 10:59 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, did Rena meet with you? | 10:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 11:00 |
| jelkner | cool, how did it go? | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it was mostly a planning meeting | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i wanted mostly to know about Rena's skills | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and how much help she will need and what kind | 11:00 |
| jelkner | great | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we realized that it'd be faster for me to set up a new linode for her to develop | 11:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, since she doens't use linux or mac | 11:01 |
| jelkner | or mjsir911 or mr_german | 11:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so i'll be doing that tomorrow morning and we're meeting again | 11:01 |
| jelkner | ok | 11:01 |
| jelkner | in my mind we are trying to have depth to our skills | 11:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i did explain what we want to do | 11:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, she's familiar with django so that's an advantage | 11:02 |
| jelkner | great | 11:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, she's not familiar with grid though | 11:02 |
| jelkner | i talked to her before proposing this | 11:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so i pointed her to the mozilla dev docs | 11:02 |
| jelkner | she said she thought she could do it | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yeah, her main concern was the set up really | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i told her that this is a core part of our business plan | 11:03 |
| jelkner | yes, she is not an admin | 11:03 |
| jelkner | and in my mind shouldn't have to be | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i expect once we set up the dev environment she'll take it from there | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i fully agree | 11:04 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:04 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll try to support her to do her thing :) | 11:04 |
| jelkner | btw, i can't tell you enough times how thrilled i was with the poster nrcerna made | 11:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, glad that it worked out | 11:05 |
| jelkner | erin is the main staffer at code for america | 11:05 |
| jelkner | when she said she loved it | 11:05 |
| jelkner | it means we hit gold! | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i really liked their reaction emails :) | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, indeed | 11:05 |
| jelkner | this is how we are going to make a successful business | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, are you still meeting with Arlington OR tomorrow? | 11:06 |
| jelkner | you bet i am | 11:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we should touch base tuesday or wednesday if possible? | 11:06 |
| jelkner | yes we should | 11:06 |
| jelkner | i will be telling them that if they want us to do this for them | 11:07 |
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| jelkner | my expectation is that they will agree to become "part of our process" | 11:07 |
| jelkner | meaning they will take ownership of it and think of or arlington as an innovator in this activity | 11:08 |
| jelkner | then lelkneralfaro_ will meet with them | 11:08 |
| jelkner | and you and he will interact with them directly | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah good idea | 11:08 |
| jelkner | mr_german and zOnny will do the website | 11:08 |
| jelkner | in php | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, just like a regular client | 11:08 |
| jelkner | exactly | 11:08 |
| jelkner | even more so | 11:08 |
| jelkner | i picked or arlington because they are an activist group | 11:09 |
| jelkner | we have a bunch of committees | 11:09 |
| jelkner | on economics, cooperatives, housing, education | 11:09 |
| jelkner | we have a book club | 11:09 |
| jelkner | all of this should utilize the association management system we are developing | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so there will be lots of small mailing lists | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lots of opportunities :) | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes! | 11:10 |
| jelkner | mailman3 to the max! | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :D | 11:10 |
| jelkner | yes, lots of opportunies | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so i will email you early tuesday morning | 11:10 |
| jelkner | talk to you soon. | 11:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool, thanks | 11:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ttyl | 11:11 |
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