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| jelkner | Good morning hrodriguez! | 11:01 |
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| hrodriguez | Good Morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| jelkner | it's nice that you are here, otherwise it would just be me and Big_Brother ;-) | 11:02 |
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| jelkner | good morning replaceafill | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | good morning jelkner | 11:43 |
| jelkner | we had a great meeting with mike this morning | 11:43 |
| jelkner | zOnny is fantastic | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah, i saw your email | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i know :) | 11:43 |
| jelkner | he really knows how to teach tendenci | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, glad we have someone with that ability | 11:44 |
| jelkner | btw, replaceafill, i just emailed my friend in san miguel to let him know i'm coming to visit. | 11:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah great | 11:50 |
| jelkner | we need to start thinking about how we can use our organizing tools in la tierra de los mil volcanes | 11:51 |
| jelkner | that topic will be top in my mind during my visit | 11:52 |
| jelkner | we will need progressive data scientists, security engineers, etc to build the platform for the movement | 11:53 |
| jelkner | i don't know if you are in touch with folks at the national university, or if nrcerna is | 11:53 |
| jelkner | but we should be reaching out, replaceafill | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, not anymore | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i've learned not to push for initiatives here my friend | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i've learned it the hard way with schooltool | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and to be honest i'm not that interested in pushing | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, if someone really needs/requests my help, i'll gladly help | 11:55 |
| jelkner | that's ok, replaceafill | 11:55 |
| jelkner | but i'm hoping we can find someone who is interested | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i bet there is someone interested | 11:55 |
| jelkner | i know its difficult | 11:55 |
| jelkner | it has been my problem for 25 years | 11:56 |
| jelkner | those with the vision lack the skills | 11:56 |
| jelkner | those with the skills, lack the interest | 11:56 |
| jelkner | that seems to be changing at long last here | 11:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, true | 11:56 |
| jelkner | i remember when i first learned about software freedom in 1993 | 11:56 |
| jelkner | and thought that it was going to be really important in building a just and democratic society | 11:57 |
| jelkner | but most activists weren't interested in software freedom | 11:57 |
| jelkner | that is now beginning to change | 11:57 |
| jelkner | keep in mind, replaceafill, we have the potential to help el salvador with this | 11:58 |
| jelkner | and i believe we are morally obligated to try | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i've know that since the beginning | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | known* | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, my interest in helping the *cause* is a byproduct of your interest | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, if i had a salvadorean jelkner around, maybe... | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i know i can't be a salvadorean jelkner | 12:00 |
| jelkner | just be a salvadoran replaceafill | 12:00 |
| jelkner | we need more of those | 12:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 12:01 |
| jelkner | we'll find activists who understand what we are doing if we keep looking | 12:01 |
| jelkner | remember, replaceafill, i'm stubborn and stupid | 12:01 |
| jelkner | so i'll just keep at it ;-) | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i know | 12:01 |
| jelkner | ok, back to work | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i keep thinking in all the civil organizations i found out about when i was working at CDC | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, some of those could probably use software like the one we try to build | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, anyway, yes, back to work | 12:03 |
| jelkner | yes, replaceafill, those are good things to think about | 12:03 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:03 |
| jelkner | we'll talk a lot more about this in agosto | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, question about ORA | 12:03 |
| jelkner | shoot | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, did you discuss the "ask the candidate" story? | 12:03 |
| jelkner | only to the degree that i talked with mike about our forum work | 12:04 |
| jelkner | the need to make it threaded | 12:04 |
| jelkner | and that we were working on that | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you think that story alone will do it? | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the threaded replies | 12:04 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 12:04 |
| jelkner | oh, one last thing, replaceafill | 12:05 |
| jelkner | i'm in el salvador from august 11 to 22 | 12:05 |
| jelkner | if any free software meetings happen during that time | 12:05 |
| jelkner | i'd like to attend | 12:05 |
| jelkner | so please keep an eye out for me | 12:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we don't have any organized movement here unfortunately | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but i will | 12:06 |
| jelkner | wow, you did years ago | 12:06 |
| jelkner | that's where i met eric | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yeah | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it died | 12:06 |
| jelkner | drats | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i feel your frustration | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i keep tabs on the former activists | 12:06 |
| jelkner | that means we have a bigger task ahead | 12:06 |
| jelkner | to restart the free software movement in el salvador | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but there are never events of that kind anymore | 12:07 |
| jelkner | there will be, my friend, there will be | 12:07 |
| jelkner | ok, back to school work | 12:07 |
| jelkner | talk to you tomorrow | 12:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool, see you | 12:08 |
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