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| jelkner | zOnny, did you get the PDF i sent you? | 10:05 |
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| zOnny | jelkner: yes, I did | 10:09 |
| jelkner | zOnny, can you *please* send me your bus ticket receipts!!! | 10:17 |
| jelkner | i want to get you reimbursed for that. | 10:17 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, replaceafill! | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | good morning jelkner | 11:47 |
| jelkner | Do you have some time today to help me get ready for Minneapolis? | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you have time now? | 11:47 |
| jelkner | you bet | 11:47 |
| jelkner | that's all i'll be working on today | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 11:48 |
| jelkner | tomorrow i drive to minneapolis | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, how can i help? | 11:48 |
| jelkner | firstly, do we have a working email address for nea members for our revolution? | 11:48 |
| jelkner | if folks want to email us? | 11:48 |
| jelkner | i'm working on the sign-up form | 11:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, no, we only have the mailing lista members@ | 11:49 |
| jelkner | ahh | 11:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, let me check the email server for nea4or | 11:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, there are a few accounts but are mostly system accounts | 11:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ams@, etc | 11:49 |
| jelkner | what would it take to get a contact@nea4or.us ? | 11:49 |
| jelkner | that could be forwarded to me | 11:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, creating the account is not difficult, but i have never set up forward emails | 11:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so i'm not sure about that | 11:50 |
| jelkner | what would you recommend? | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think the nea4or page lists your personal email anyway | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | https://nea4or.us/memberships/applications/nea4or-members/ | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | "Questions? Send an email to: jeff.elkner@gmail.com" | 11:51 |
| jelkner | yes, but that is not good | 11:52 |
| jelkner | we can do it if we have to | 11:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, right | 11:52 |
| jelkner | but it makes us look like we don't have skills | 11:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we have the skills to set up contact@nea4or.us | 11:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but not for forwarding | 11:52 |
| jelkner | well, how would it work? | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'd recommend setting up contact@ | 11:53 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and pay attention while the convention lasts | 11:53 |
| jelkner | that's fine | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i don't want to touch the email server before that | 11:53 |
| jelkner | how would i check it? | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you can set up thunderbird | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or any imap client | 11:54 |
| jelkner | oh no | 11:54 |
| jelkner | like Dany did :-( ? | 11:54 |
| jelkner | she couldn't get it to work | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, she could | 11:54 |
| jelkner | oh | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, in the school computer | 11:54 |
| jelkner | ok, let's do that | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it hasn't failed or anything | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but her personal computer is a different story | 11:54 |
| jelkner | if i can get it working on my laptop | 11:54 |
| jelkner | we'll be ok | 11:54 |
| jelkner | i need to change my workflow anyway | 11:55 |
| jelkner | and start using thunderbird for mail | 11:55 |
| jelkner | so i can get all my emails in one place | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 11:55 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll work on an email to rand | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll create the contact@ account | 11:56 |
| jelkner | while you setup contact@nea4or.us ? | 11:56 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:56 |
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| replaceafill | jelkner, quick question | 12:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what "display name" do you want for the contact@ account? | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, like "Douglas Cerna" displaying in my emails | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, "NEA4OR something something" :) | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or just plain "NEA Member for Our Revolution" | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | Members | 12:07 |
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| mr_german | good day jelkner, replaceafill | 12:12 |
| mr_german | ;) | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | hey mr_german | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you're all set for today, right? | 12:12 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes. i am | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, cool, can we meet a 2 pm our time again? | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, to check your progress? | 12:13 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, ok | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, great, talk to you then | 12:13 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, cool! | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, contact@ account set | 12:19 |
| jelkner | sweet, thanx, replaceafill! | 12:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm going to write a document how to set it up in thunderbird | 12:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, like the one i wrote for Daniela | 12:20 |
| jelkner | excellent | 12:20 |
| jelkner | then i'll test your document and let you know how it goes | 12:20 |
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| replaceafill | jelkner, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i5YXbbJR4g2Hn50_-roNcIXdhTUJ-fo_AuNklNCReJw/edit# | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you want me to change your personal email in the membership form to contact@? | 12:32 |
| jelkner | i just sent an email to rand with the paper version of the sign-up form | 12:35 |
| jelkner | i need his reply on whether clear will allow us to write checks to nea4or, and then i'll send to amity and yvonne | 12:36 |
| jelkner | but yes, contact@nea4or.us | 12:36 |
| jelkner | is the email that should be listed | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, could you update the "Contact Us" page? | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, membership form updated | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, nitpick question on the printed membership forms :) | 12:41 |
| jelkner | pick away | 12:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, why is "please print" in the form? | 12:42 |
| jelkner | so that people write legibly? | 12:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, oh | 12:42 |
| jelkner | i was basically copying the form rand uses for labor for or | 12:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, print means the type of letter to use? | 12:42 |
| jelkner | some old people still write in script | 12:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah got it | 12:42 |
| jelkner | young people often don't even know how to do that anymore | 12:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i didn't know that what's called in english | 12:43 |
| jelkner | but i'm old, so i remember when we did that sort of thing | 12:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we call it "letra de carta" (script) and "letra de molde" (print) | 12:43 |
| jelkner | ahh | 12:43 |
| jelkner | well i could change it to letra de molde, but not everyone would understand ;-) | 12:44 |
| replaceafill | :D | 12:44 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's the first time i see that expression, i noticed it in Rand's form too | 12:44 |
| jelkner | yes, that's what i modeled mine on | 12:44 |
| jelkner | i called and left rand a voice message | 12:45 |
| jelkner | asking him to respond to my email | 12:45 |
| jelkner | i have today to work | 12:45 |
| jelkner | tomorrow i have a 11 to 12 hour drive to minneapolis | 12:45 |
| jelkner | so i won't get anything else done | 12:45 |
| jelkner | i'll get to listen to a good audio book, but that doesn't count ;-) | 12:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :D | 12:46 |
| jelkner | i need to go to the printers with all this stuff on friday | 12:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, long drive! | 12:46 |
| jelkner | it's a big country | 12:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, like going from San Salvador to Managua | 12:46 |
| jelkner | a lot further | 12:47 |
| jelkner | over 700 miles | 12:48 |
| jelkner | san salvador to managua is a little over 300 miles | 12:49 |
| jelkner | just looked | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, wow, it's really far | 12:49 |
| jelkner | but i time, its probably similar | 12:49 |
| jelkner | since i'll be travelling at about 70 miles per hour much of the way | 12:50 |
| jelkner | anyway, back to work! | 12:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 12:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, anything else i can do? | 12:50 |
| jelkner | not now | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the meeting is on the weekend, right? | 12:51 |
| jelkner | i'm installing thunderbird | 12:51 |
| jelkner | sunday | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean, the convention | 12:51 |
| jelkner | convention starts saturday | 12:51 |
| jelkner | and ends thursday | 12:51 |
| jelkner | did you see the changes i've been making on the website? | 12:51 |
| jelkner | nea4or.us | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the homepage, yes | 12:51 |
| jelkner | yup | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, oh, the times are there! | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i just focused on the flier :D | 12:52 |
| jelkner | i read your message about urls for files | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, Saturdayday | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, typo | 12:52 |
| jelkner | i wish i knew how to keep the same "safe url" | 12:52 |
| jelkner | and update the file | 12:52 |
| jelkner | i need to learn that | 12:53 |
| jelkner | i've been deleting the old one | 12:53 |
| jelkner | and adding a new one | 12:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah | 12:53 |
| jelkner | which increments the safe ur number | 12:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, right | 12:53 |
| jelkner | saturdayday is fixed | 12:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 12:54 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes back to work too | 12:55 |
| jelkner | ping replaceafill | 13:13 |
| jelkner | sorry to bother you again | 13:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, pong | 13:14 |
| jelkner | (too many interruptions destroy productivity) | 13:14 |
| jelkner | i have several issues i want to file | 13:14 |
| jelkner | not against our website | 13:14 |
| jelkner | but for our cooperative | 13:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah ok | 13:14 |
| jelkner | where could i do that? | 13:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we don't have a coop project to do that | 13:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, should we create one? | 13:15 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:15 |
| jelkner | can you set one up for us? | 13:15 |
| jelkner | i'll file the issues | 13:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 13:16 |
| jelkner | sweet | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hold on | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/coop | 13:16 |
| jelkner | thanks man! | 13:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, np | 13:17 |
| jelkner | now one more question before we go | 13:17 |
| jelkner | what do you think of this? http://www.webskillet.com/ | 13:17 |
| jelkner | i am thinking we need to explore joining a union | 13:18 |
| jelkner | if we are going to do work for unions, we need to be in one | 13:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah | 13:18 |
| jelkner | so knowing as i do that UE is know for being one of the most progressive, most democratic unions in my country | 13:18 |
| jelkner | they are not part of the AFL-CIO since they refused to kick out communists in the 1950s | 13:19 |
| jelkner | i thought, let me take a look at the UE website | 13:19 |
| jelkner | then i found the link i just sent you | 13:19 |
| jelkner | the sad news is that cooperative didn't survive | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, right | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sounds like what we're trying to do | 13:20 |
| jelkner | the good news is they were both a web coop and a ue local | 13:20 |
| jelkner | exactly | 13:20 |
| jelkner | so we could reach out to them about joining | 13:20 |
| jelkner | i'll file an issue for lelkneralfaro to look into this | 13:20 |
| jelkner | but i wanted to run it by you first | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i can't say i fully understand what becoming a local means | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but if it helps us grow | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or get in touch with the right kind of organizations | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm +` | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 13:21 |
| jelkner | well, it will also give us the opportunity to be part of the labor movement | 13:22 |
| jelkner | we will be members of labor for our revolution, for example, if we did that | 13:22 |
| jelkner | since UE is one of the founding members of Labor for OR | 13:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah | 13:22 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 13:22 |
| jelkner | i'll file the issue, and we can talk about it later. | 13:23 |
| jelkner | i'm going to call louie too | 13:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 13:23 |
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| replaceafill | mr_german, you around? | 13:50 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, could you please send me an email at contact@nea4or.us ? | 14:05 |
| jelkner | i setup thunderbird | 14:05 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, tell me | 14:05 |
| jelkner | easy peasy! | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 14:05 |
| jelkner | but now i want to confirm it works | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sent | 14:06 |
| jelkner | Testing 1, 2, 3... ;-) | 14:06 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, could we meet at 2:30 pm our time? i may need to go get Camila | 14:07 |
| jelkner | cool | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 14:07 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll let you talk to mr_german undisturbed | 14:07 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, sure, I need to talk about this | 14:07 |
| jelkner | hola mr_german | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, now? | 14:07 |
| mr_german | Hola! jelkner | 14:07 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, later | 14:07 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, in the meeting | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ah ok | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, cool, 2:30 then | 14:08 |
| mr_german | jelkner, how are you? | 14:08 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, cool | 14:08 |
| jelkner | i'm doing great, mr_german, thanks for asking, and you? | 14:08 |
| mr_german | jelkner, i'm good too, working with helios ;-) | 14:10 |
| jelkner | excellent! | 14:11 |
| jelkner | we need to start using that on our own site | 14:11 |
| jelkner | to vote on things, like whether we should join a union ;-) | 14:11 |
| jelkner | helios is the key to our success, methinks | 14:12 |
| jelkner | integrating it with tendenci will be our first real contribution | 14:12 |
| jelkner | so let me leave you to it! | 14:12 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i'm breaking for lunch | 14:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 14:36 |
| jelkner | just sent an email to amity and yvonne | 14:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll be back around 4:30 pm | 14:36 |
| jelkner | cool | 14:36 |
| jelkner | later gater | 14:36 |
| replaceafill | later | 14:36 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for awhile | 14:36 |
| mr_german | ACTION goes to take lunch | 15:00 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes to pick up his daughter | 15:13 |
| replaceafill | ACTION is back | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | ready mr_german? | 16:30 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes. | 16:30 |
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| jelkner | ACTION signs off to take a nap. | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | ACTION signs off for the day | 18:05 |
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