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| jelkner | good morning, lelkneralfaro | 10:05 |
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| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, good morning | 10:05 |
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| jelkner | good morning hrodriguez | 10:10 |
| hrodriguez | jelkner, good morning | 10:11 |
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| jelkner | i hope you feel better | 10:11 |
| jelkner | there is no rush on getting trained on our organizing tool (Open Organize?, we really need a name for it soon) | 10:12 |
| hrodriguez | my mom got a cold on Monday and i think i just git it jelkner | 10:12 |
| jelkner | so stay home and rest | 10:12 |
| jelkner | i have a question about your schedule next Fall | 10:12 |
| jelkner | what do you have the last period of the day? | 10:12 |
| jelkner | the cs class is 5th period | 10:12 |
| jelkner | like i mentioned to you, while i know you can study on your own | 10:13 |
| jelkner | it would be so much better if you could be in a class with other learners | 10:13 |
| hrodriguez | i thinks is going to be calculos | 10:13 |
| jelkner | great | 10:13 |
| jelkner | the other day is computer science | 10:13 |
| jelkner | that's how it works | 10:14 |
| jelkner | calculus is every other day | 10:14 |
| jelkner | so that would work perfectly | 10:14 |
| hrodriguez | they told me that one day i was going to take Calculus and the other day environmental science with Ms.Shall | 10:15 |
| jelkner | well, you have to make choices | 10:15 |
| jelkner | if continuing with this career is a priority | 10:15 |
| jelkner | then perhaps the science could be moved to somewhere else | 10:15 |
| jelkner | since math/cs combo is what mr. zawolo and i have been working on | 10:16 |
| jelkner | it is setup as an A day / B day combination | 10:16 |
| hrodriguez | jelkner, i want to get the advance Diploma but i will talk to them they might have another chance in another time | 10:16 |
| hrodriguez | for Science | 10:16 |
| jelkner | like i said | 10:17 |
| jelkner | life is filled with choices | 10:17 |
| jelkner | many times in life you will have to chose between conflicting possibilities | 10:17 |
| jelkner | i'll leave it up to you | 10:17 |
| jelkner | but i do have a suggestion for you | 10:17 |
| jelkner | http://www.openbookproject.net/books/StudentCSP/ | 10:18 |
| jelkner | start working your way through this book today | 10:18 |
| jelkner | it is the book Shushan was using last Spring | 10:18 |
| jelkner | and the one the CS class will be using in the Fall | 10:18 |
| jelkner | since you already have an account on gitlab, right? | 10:19 |
| jelkner | i will be asking students to file issues whenever they find mistakes | 10:19 |
| hrodriguez | I know jelkner I'll talk to them and I will i know what my choice will be...yes I'm reading that book and Yes i have an account on gitlab | 10:20 |
| jelkner | https://gitlab.com/jelkner/StudentCSP | 10:20 |
| jelkner | cool | 10:20 |
| jelkner | so let me know if you have questions | 10:20 |
| jelkner | we can talk more when i get back next week | 10:21 |
| jelkner | rest up and feel better, hrodriguez | 10:21 |
| hrodriguez | jelkner, thanks | 10:22 |
| jelkner | oh, never mind, hrodriguez | 10:23 |
| jelkner | you've already been filing issues ;-) | 10:23 |
| jelkner | i'm getting old and my brain is mush | 10:23 |
| jelkner | i forgot :-( | 10:23 |
| jelkner | but gitlab doesn't forget | 10:23 |
| hrodriguez | jelkner, yes I have been filing some | 10:24 |
| jelkner | https://gitlab.com/jelkner/StudentCSP/issues?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=closed | 10:24 |
| hrodriguez | no worries jelkner :) | 10:24 |
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| jelkner | good morning zOnny | 10:24 |
| zOnny | jelkner: good morning | 10:25 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, could you please take some time to file some issues on making the event interface more user friendly? | 10:41 |
| jelkner | it is crucial we get dogfooding this asap | 10:42 |
| jelkner | every time kevin and i meet at gallaudet | 10:43 |
| jelkner | we should create an event | 10:43 |
| jelkner | so we get experience using this | 10:43 |
| jelkner | this morning, i've been in conversation with ora folks | 10:43 |
| jelkner | who are using meetup.com to post our events | 10:43 |
| jelkner | for all the reasons we are creating "Open Organize" for just that reason | 10:44 |
| jelkner | but our interface has numerous weird things | 10:45 |
| jelkner | i just created a tuesday event | 10:45 |
| jelkner | i needed to uncheck the "this is a weekend event" button or i will have an invalid configuration | 10:46 |
| jelkner | WTF!? | 10:46 |
| jelkner | it's a computer | 10:46 |
| jelkner | it has cal built into it | 10:46 |
| jelkner | it should know sept 11, 2018 is not a weekend | 10:46 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, will do | 10:54 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, yes I've run into that same problem | 10:54 |
| jelkner | and lelkneralfaro, all payment fields need to be hidden | 10:56 |
| jelkner | neither aea nor ora will have paid events | 10:57 |
| jelkner | we are tracking attendance | 10:57 |
| jelkner | ingrid wants to use this for sign-ins at aea delegate assembly meetings | 10:57 |
| jelkner | that will be powerful | 10:57 |
| jelkner | now we use paper | 10:58 |
| jelkner | zOnny, do you need an issue on the RSVP button? | 10:59 |
| jelkner | the one that should say "Continue" | 11:00 |
| jelkner | on the 2nd to the last screen | 11:00 |
| jelkner | right before the last screen, which has "Confirm My Registration" | 11:00 |
| zOnny | jelkner: you mean like this https://imgur.com/a/YKuwzZW | 11:01 |
| zOnny | jelkner: are we referring to the same button ? | 11:01 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ping | 11:02 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: is it ok if I fix it in the master ? | 11:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, pong | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, no | 11:03 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's not a theme issue | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ok, here's how we can handle it | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i want you to understand this should be fixed in Tendenci's upstream repo | 11:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but as you would imagine that'd take some time, right? | 11:04 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 11:04 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I know where it is located | 11:04 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: hold on | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so if fixing it in the theme is easier | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, do it there, that's fine | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but please file an issue in tendenci's upstream repo | 11:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: in the _dev or master ? | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, by now, you understand the process.... | 11:06 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: kinda | 11:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, this is an issue in all of our themes | 11:06 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: correct | 11:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so we fix it in master, then all _dev's then all _prod's | 11:06 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 11:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i won't consider this done until you shows us the upstream issue you filed, ok? | 11:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I was testing this https://pwa.novawebdevelopment.org/notifyme/ | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i can't check that at the moment, could you please remind me about it next week? | 11:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: it requires firebase for mobile devices :( | 11:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ty | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, back | 11:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ttyl | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, have a few minutes to discuss this: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/frank | 11:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I'm here | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool | 11:08 |
| mr_german | hello lelkneralfaro any news from elizabeth guzman? | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, please read that README :) | 11:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, they got back to me yesterday and are still waiting for elizabeth to approve it. | 11:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, so it's not ready to be deployed yet | 11:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay I'll take a look | 11:10 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, alright I've gone through the README | 11:16 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I've read it I mean | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, great thanks, do you have time to give it a try | 11:16 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yup. I'll give it a shot | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, this will set up a complete instance | 11:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool, sounds like fun | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, as someone told me once "it requires you to download half the internet" so be patience :) | 11:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, lol thanks for the heads up | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and unfortunately there's a part of the process that requires you to type stuff | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, it's not difficult but it may be confusing | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and we can't get rid of it | 11:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yes I read through that | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, let me know if something seems odd | 11:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, thanks will do | 11:19 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I hope is the same button that we are referring to https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/ora-ams/issues/34 | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it is | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, have you tried that process? | 11:21 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: thanks for the confiramtion | 11:21 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yesterday | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that button takes you to a confirmation/review page | 11:21 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 11:21 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: on it | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner complains that it implies you're about to be done with RSVP | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, when you're not | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool, let me know if you have questions | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, my goal for today is to integrate all the helios work we've been doing | 11:22 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, also | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you get some time available, test this https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/frank | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ttyl | 11:23 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: cool | 11:23 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I will | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, when an issue affects all of our themes, like this rsvp thing, use the novawebdev-ams to file it or move it there | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, even if it starts as a project only fix | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | specific project fix* | 11:27 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: sorry about that | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, np, we can move issues around | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i just did | 11:27 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: thanks | 11:27 |
| jelkner | too good not to be taken: https://devpost.com/software/apptivist | 11:41 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I'm getting an error "Permission denied (publickey) | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, when cloning the frank repo? | 11:53 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yup | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you need to set up your git client | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, hold on | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/ssh/ | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you need to generate an ssh key if you don't have one | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, then set under your Settings -> SSH Keys in gitlab | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | set it* | 11:55 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay I'll take a look and give it a shot | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://ourrevolutionarlington.us/settings/module/events/anonymousregistration/ | 11:56 |
| jelkner | https://novawebdevelopment.org/events/5/ | 12:18 |
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| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, were you able to get the scripts going? | 12:53 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I was working on something else for a bit. | 12:55 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, still working to get it going | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ah cool | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ok | 12:55 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, just set up ssh key | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ok | 12:56 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I'm no longer getting "permission denied" | 12:57 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, now it just says "connection closed by remote host" | 12:57 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, gitlab hiccup probably | 12:58 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yep, https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=gitlab&src=typd | 13:00 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay. so it will have to wait? | 13:01 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yeah, i'm getting the same | 13:01 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yeah, i'll ping you once i notice it works again | 13:02 |
| replaceafill | gitlab still down: https://status.gitlab.com/ | 13:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool thanks for update | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, gitlab is back | 13:28 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool I'll finish the set up now | 13:29 |
| jelkner | mr_german, zOnny, can i talk to you for a few minutes? | 13:51 |
| mr_german | jelkner, sure. | 13:51 |
| jelkner | zOnny? | 13:51 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yes ? | 13:51 |
| jelkner | cool, a friend of mine from NJ just emailed me the following: | 13:52 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, when trying to run the three final commands I'm getting "bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'" | 13:52 |
| jelkner | "Corazon Amparo wants a website for her cleaning business - can you call her and let her know the price?" | 13:53 |
| jelkner | mr_german, zOnny, two questions: | 13:53 |
| jelkner | 1. Are you willing to take on a static website client? | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, checking | 13:53 |
| jelkner | 2. What should I tell her is the price? | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, could you paste the command you used here: https://paste.pound-python.org/ | 13:54 |
| jelkner | Actually, her first language is Spanish, so perhaps one of you could call her if you are interested in exploring this. | 13:54 |
| jelkner | Her English is limited. | 13:54 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, just pasted | 13:55 |
| mr_german | jelkner, do yo have her email or something to contact? | 13:55 |
| jelkner | ACTION will wait for mr_german and zOnny to confer and get back to me | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, can you share the paste link :) | 13:55 |
| jelkner | i most definitely do, mr_german | 13:55 |
| jelkner | and i would be glad to share it with you | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, after you paste you get a unique link in your browser, share it here | 13:55 |
| mr_german | jelkner, cool | 13:56 |
| jelkner | but only if you are interested ;-) | 13:56 |
| lelkneralfaro | reaplaceafill, https://paste.pound-python.org/show/98WJV9rTO6odCJDPJaRK/ | 13:56 |
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| mr_german | jelkner, ofc i do | 13:56 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, oh sorry | 13:56 |
| jelkner | but before you call, you need to have a price in mind | 13:56 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you need to replace <suffix> | 13:56 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, with the same suffix you used when you called "build.sh" | 13:57 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, ahh okay thanks | 13:57 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, feel free to improve the README :) | 13:58 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool. will do yup the suffix worked | 14:02 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and i pointed my browser at tendenci:9000 which worked | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, awesome | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, could we go through a couple of things | 14:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, logged in, successfully. tried to go to helios which is giving me some weird feedback | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i've found a couple of issues | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes | 14:03 |
| mr_german | zOnny, are you busy? | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, give me a couple of minutes to finish this fix | 14:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yes I can go through some things | 14:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay cool | 14:03 |
| zOnny | mr_german: yes ? | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ok, done | 14:04 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ok, so first thing | 14:04 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, could you go to /settings | 14:04 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you should see two new groups: Attendance and Voting | 14:04 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, at this point Attendance only controls if the Event Sign-In button appears or not | 14:05 |
| mr_german | zOnny, can we talk about this new project? | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, Voting controls the URL pointing to helios | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, what value do you have under Settings -> Voting -> Root URL? | 14:05 |
| zOnny | mr_german: ok | 14:06 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I see "true" | 14:06 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, for Root URL??? | 14:06 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, that should be for Voting -> Enabled | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, :S | 14:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, oh sorry. give me one sec. I need to log into irc on my other machine, so I can copy and paste | 14:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, brb 1 min | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, kk | 14:08 |
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| lelkneralfaro | http://helios:8000/auth/start/tendenci?return_url=/ | 14:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, that's what I have | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, makes sense | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ok so the helios error | 14:09 |
| jelkner | zOnny, are you hear? | 14:10 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, could you paste the urls.py module (file) in your helios project | 14:10 |
| jelkner | oops here | 14:10 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yes ? | 14:10 |
| zOnny | mr_german: I cannot chat in private channels by now | 14:10 |
| jelkner | can you please discuss this with mr_german and come to a common understanding of price? | 14:10 |
| jelkner | we want to call her by end of work today | 14:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, hmm no I don't know how to do that | 14:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, paste is mv | 14:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, where do i find the helios project? | 14:11 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, in the repo | 14:11 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, one directory for the Helios project: helios_<suffix> | 14:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | lelkneralfaro, ahh yes | 14:11 |
| jelkner | zOnny: you can talk here | 14:12 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yes | 14:12 |
| jelkner | zOnny: just address each other directly | 14:12 |
| jelkner | (says replaceafill) | 14:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and the urls.py module? | 14:13 |
| jelkner | zOnny, mr_german: here is how to start: | 14:13 |
| mr_german | zOnny, so.. what do you think about this new project? | 14:13 |
| jelkner | 1. determine the cost for a year of a webfaction website | 14:13 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, found the helios directory? | 14:14 |
| jelkner | 2. estimate the number of hours set up the account | 14:14 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, it should have a urls.py file in it | 14:14 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yes | 14:14 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, open it in any editor | 14:14 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay let me check | 14:14 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, copy its content and paste it again here https://paste.pound-python.org/ | 14:14 |
| zOnny | mr_german: good | 14:14 |
| jelkner | 3. estimate the number of hours to create a 3 to 5 page static website | 14:14 |
| jelkner | 4. call her and give her the price | 14:14 |
| jelkner | i recommend using $30 per hour times hours | 14:15 |
| zOnny | mr_german: Do you want to handle this project ? | 14:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, https://paste.pound-python.org/show/WRgFRu0o7QBSAk5XZJgV/ | 14:15 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, great | 14:15 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, please remove lines 21 and 22 | 14:15 |
| mr_german | zOnny, hmm sure | 14:15 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, that should fix the helios problem | 14:16 |
| zOnny | mr_german: cool | 14:16 |
| zOnny | mr_german: Do you know how to invoice ? | 14:16 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay ill give it a shot | 14:16 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, +1 | 14:16 |
| mr_german | zOnny, yes, i'm looking for prices on webfaction right now | 14:16 |
| mr_german | zOnny, not at all | 14:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, that worked :) | 14:17 |
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| zOnny | mr_german: you can tell her how much is your service per hour | 14:18 |
| zOnny | mr_german: she maybe has a budget for inveting on the site. | 14:20 |
| zOnny | *investing | 14:20 |
| mr_german | zOnny, but, we need a price first | 14:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, so in order to work on tendenci I have to run those three commands each time? | 14:22 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes | 14:23 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and are changes I make saved or lost each time I close out the session? | 14:23 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you can CTRL + C any of those terminals | 14:23 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 14:23 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, they're saved | 14:23 |
| jelkner | zOnny, replaceafill is arguing that what i said is wrong | 14:23 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you have a database for each service now | 14:23 |
| jelkner | (no surprise there! ;-) | 14:23 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, just make sure you go to the repo directory | 14:23 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and start over from there each time | 14:23 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool. and the changes are stored in my harddrive? | 14:23 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you can create new ones also by providing new suffixes :) | 14:24 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes | 14:24 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, ahh cool | 14:24 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, your pc now has postgres installed | 14:24 |
| jelkner | he says it would be basically the same price (maybe even cheaper) to set up a $5 per month linode and put our CMS | 14:24 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, thanks! | 14:24 |
| jelkner | but zOnny and mr_german, *you two* need to be responsible for that! | 14:25 |
| jelkner | zOnny, mr_german, can you do that? | 14:25 |
| zOnny | jelkner: np | 14:25 |
| mr_german | jelkner, yep | 14:30 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, it's also possible to try all the themes we have :) | 14:30 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, even the guzman, lee carter, etc | 14:30 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool are they available on the theme editor tool? | 14:33 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, no | 14:34 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you would need to run some git commands in your tendenci project | 14:34 |
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| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, that's what i plan to add to the readme "XXX: Explain how to access and customize each feature" | 14:34 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, :) | 14:34 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool! looking forward to it | 14:35 |
| jelkner | zOnny, lelkneralfaro: replaceafill and mr_german are discussing the pricing issue now | 14:37 |
| jelkner | here is what they are discussing: | 14:38 |
| jelkner | 1. We need two prices on our website - an AMS price for unions and organizations that manage members | 14:38 |
| jelkner | and a CMS only price for projects like this new one, Elizabeth Guzman, etc. | 14:39 |
| jelkner | 2. We should list both prices on the website | 14:39 |
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| jelkner | hrodriguez, thanks | 15:20 |
| jelkner | you got my text! | 15:20 |
| hrodriguez | yes jelkner | 15:20 |
| jelkner | i texted you 30 seconds aog | 15:20 |
| jelkner | ago | 15:20 |
| hrodriguez | I know i was in from my computer | 15:21 |
| jelkner | cool | 15:21 |
| jelkner | we have a potential customer we would like you to call | 15:21 |
| hrodriguez | How nice jelkner | 15:21 |
| jelkner | my friend in nj sent me a text that he knows a woman who wants a website for her cleaning business | 15:21 |
| jelkner | mr_german is still talking to replaceafill about the price | 15:22 |
| jelkner | but they should have that in a few more minutes | 15:22 |
| hrodriguez | wow jelkner | 15:22 |
| jelkner | i will text you here name and phone number now | 15:23 |
| hrodriguez | Thanks jelkner | 15:24 |
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| jelkner | hrodriguez, you fixed it | 15:28 |
| hrodriguez | yes jelkner | 15:28 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez, replaceafill is suggesting you can make the 1st call without the estimate | 15:30 |
| jelkner | Spanish is her first language | 15:30 |
| jelkner | and her English is limited | 15:30 |
| jelkner | we basically want you to make first contact and ask her about what she is looking for | 15:31 |
| hrodriguez | cool jelkner | 15:31 |
| jelkner | take notes! | 15:31 |
| jelkner | hola, esta es Heyline Rodriguez de NOVA Web Development | 15:31 |
| jelkner | entiendo que ustd. esta interesada en un sito web, verdad? | 15:32 |
| jelkner | podemos hablar un poco sobre lo que necesitas? | 15:32 |
| jelkner | stuff like that | 15:32 |
| jelkner | can you do that, hrodriguez? | 15:32 |
| hrodriguez | I'm doing in jelkner | 15:32 |
| hrodriguez | tell me what should i ask her jelkner | 15:32 |
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| jelkner | did you see what i typed? | 15:33 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez? | 15:33 |
| hrodriguez | no couldn't see | 15:33 |
| hrodriguez | I'm having problems with the connection | 15:33 |
| jelkner | http://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/2018-08-17.log.html | 15:34 |
| jelkner | take a look and let me know if that is what you need | 15:34 |
| hrodriguez | perfect jelkner | 15:35 |
| hrodriguez | i got it | 15:35 |
| jelkner | either tell us here, or text me if you lose connection | 15:35 |
| jelkner | to let me know how it goes | 15:35 |
| hrodriguez | I got IRC on my phone if I lose connection in my computer I'll use my phoen | 15:36 |
| jelkner | super bueno! | 15:37 |
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| hrodriguez | I'll call her now | 15:38 |
| jelkner | ACTION waits eagerly for hrodriguez to let us know how it goes | 15:40 |
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| hrodriguez | jelkner, she is in the middle of something she couldn't answer my call then i send her a text and she told me she will call me back soon | 15:48 |
| jelkner | super | 15:49 |
| jelkner | thanks, hrodriguez, you rock! | 15:49 |
| jelkner | let us know how it goes. | 15:49 |
| jelkner | we have a price, but let's tell her that during the 2nd call if it sounds like we can really help her | 15:49 |
| hrodriguez | Thanks jelkner I'll be waiting for her call | 15:50 |
| jelkner | zOnny, mr_german and replaceafill came up with $400 for a *basic* website with CMS and hosting for 1 year. | 15:50 |
| jelkner | we will need to define clearly what basic means. | 15:50 |
| jelkner | but this is a great start | 15:50 |
| replaceafill | basic in this context meant = 5 hours of theming work | 15:51 |
| replaceafill | and theming work in this context meant = only homepage | 15:51 |
| hrodriguez | perfect if she ask me for a price I'll tell her we'll discuss it and let her know in a second call | 15:52 |
| replaceafill | hrodriguez, +1 | 15:52 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez, tell her we need to understand better what her needs are first | 15:52 |
| hrodriguez | jelkner, cool | 15:53 |
| jelkner | you can always say, "i need to discuss it with the development team and get back to you" | 15:53 |
| jelkner | that sounds impressive ;-) | 15:53 |
| hrodriguez | that's what i was thinking jelkner hahahah | 15:54 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, jelkner my two cents in my experience it is important to add time for communication/planning it depends on the size of the project. but a project with 5 hours theming might take 1-2 hours of back and forth with the customer | 15:54 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, jelkner some sort of questionnaire might speed things up in that respect. to have the customer to fill out or to use to think over their project | 15:55 |
| jelkner | +1 | 15:56 |
| jelkner | a *big* +1 | 15:56 |
| jelkner | we can automate some of that 1-2 hours | 15:56 |
| jelkner | a proper questionnaire actually helps educate a new customer about how to think about this | 15:57 |
| jelkner | and they can do it on their own time | 15:57 |
| jelkner | and not feel rushed | 15:57 |
| lelkneralfaro | and it makes things much more smooth and enjoyable on our side | 16:00 |
| jelkner | so, who among us feels competent to write such a thing? | 16:00 |
| lelkneralfaro | a rhetorical question... | 16:01 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I'll put it on my list | 16:01 |
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| hrodriguez | jelkner, I not sure now if she is going to call me back she told me a couple of minutes and it's been more than hour since she told me that | 16:41 |
| lelkneralfaro | hrodriguez, i have this problem all the time, it can be pretty annoying. either sending a text or calling back and leaving a message is a good idea | 16:43 |
| hrodriguez | lelkneralfaro, thanks :) | 16:45 |
| lelkneralfaro | hrodriguez, no problem | 16:45 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez, you did your part | 17:02 |
| jelkner | "the ball is in her court" as the saying goes | 17:02 |
| jelkner | so don't worry about it until you hear from her | 17:02 |
| hrodriguez | Got it jelkner thanks | 17:03 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the weekend | 18:05 |
| jelkner | see y'all monday, have a great weekend! | 18:05 |
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