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| jelkner | !remind Discuss viability of Open Collective and Stripe for financial management | 08:25 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 08:26 |
| Big_Brother | hi | 08:26 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, zOnny! | 10:58 |
| zOnny | good morning jelkner | 10:58 |
| jelkner | !remind How can we better utilize Libre Organize in NOVALACIRO? | 10:59 |
| Big_Brother | "How can we better utilize Libre Organize in NOVALACIRO?" added to message queue | 10:59 |
| jelkner | !remind | 10:59 |
| Big_Brother | hi | 10:59 |
| jelkner | !remind Educon and Pycon: Changing the World with Python | 11:38 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 11:38 |
| Big_Brother | hi | 11:38 |
| jelkner | !remind Revisit organizational emails for NOVALACIRO? | 11:53 |
| Big_Brother | "Revisit organizational emails for NOVALACIRO?" added to message queue | 11:53 |
| jelkner | !remind | 11:53 |
| Big_Brother | hi | 11:53 |
| Big_Brother | Revisit organizational emails for NOVALACIRO? | 11:53 |
| jelkner | !remind Are GitLab pages usable by mere mortals, or should I be directing students to GitHub pages? | 12:11 |
| Big_Brother | "Are GitLab pages usable by mere mortals, or should I be directing students to GitHub pages?" added to message queue | 12:11 |
| jelkner | !remind | 12:11 |
| Big_Brother | hi | 12:11 |
| Big_Brother | Revisit organizational emails for NOVALACIRO? | 12:11 |
| Big_Brother | Are GitLab pages usable by mere mortals, or should I be directing students to GitHub pages? | 12:11 |
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| zOnny | hey replaceafill | 13:18 |
| replaceafill | hello zOnny | 13:18 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: busy ? | 13:18 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what do you need? | 13:18 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I was thinking about my project | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ok | 13:19 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I have seen that tendenci can do these surveys as well | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, in forums? | 13:20 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: in forms | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ok | 13:21 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: having a nother server, should I keep my project as a new branch as well | 13:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'm fine with that | 13:23 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: what is the other way ? | 13:23 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I was thinking on it since yesterday | 13:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's your decision | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, do whatever is convenient *for you* | 13:24 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: having a fork will work as well? | 13:25 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: in terms of CI | 13:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, there's nothing special about CI | 13:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you're doing it through gitlab, you should read their CI documentation | 13:26 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you understand a fork becomes a different gitlab "project", right? | 13:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so all the variables and settings are gone | 13:27 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: that is what I was wondering | 13:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you want to keep this separate from nova's crap, you could use our CI as reference but build your own | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's not very hard | 13:28 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: does not seem a good move | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and you have Marco around to help you | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, again, your call :) | 13:28 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I have explored the gitlab pages already | 13:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool | 13:30 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we have some bylaws repo somewhere with pages setup iirc | 13:30 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, in case you need "real world" (ha!) examples | 13:30 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: cool that will help | 13:31 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: the fork will break updates from novawebdev, yes? | 13:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, hm? | 13:32 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: unless I do git pull --upstream master ? | 13:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i don't understand what you're asking | 13:33 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: me neither | 13:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, then don't ask those kind of questions... | 13:33 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I will figure out it | 13:34 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: another question | 13:34 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I have already changed the linode name of fipol | 13:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ok | 13:35 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: but it keeps with the linode1..... | 13:35 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: should I reboot ? | 13:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what linode name are you referring to? | 13:36 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: in the linode manager | 13:36 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: did you see fipol? or linode1.....? | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you mean, the display label? | 13:37 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, sigh... | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, then don't say "linode name" | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that doesn't make any sense | 13:37 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, use the right terms | 13:37 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: the linode label | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you didn't change it | 13:38 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: uhm? | 13:38 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, or... you didn't change it successfully | 13:38 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's still the default | 13:39 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: :( why ? | 13:39 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: if you see it in the dashboard it says fipol | 13:39 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I was about to reboot :D | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you changed the "configuration profile label"... | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, not the linode's display label | 13:40 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: o.O? | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, the linode's display label is under the linode's settings | 13:40 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: :) | 13:41 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: thanks | 13:41 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I forgot it | 13:41 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that means a bug in our doc | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, fix that please ^ | 13:42 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: bug ? | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's your work, helping you and us and the future us not to trip with this again | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, anything you don't understand and figure out it's a bug | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, a documentation bug | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we have tons of those | 13:42 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, make a "note" somewhere | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, help files are good for that | 13:43 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, "how to set the label of a f****ing linode" | 13:43 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: novawebdev's help files ? | 13:43 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yeah | 13:43 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: cool | 13:43 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, thanks | 13:43 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I will | 13:43 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, +1 | 13:43 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: thanks for you time man | 13:43 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, np | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, quick question | 13:44 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes ? | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you receive an email from linode last night about TendenciTesting? | 13:44 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: nope | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i don't see you or mr_german in that thread | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and i want to figure out why | 13:45 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: should I received it ? | 13:46 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ideally | 13:46 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we should all receive these | 13:46 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 13:46 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ah, it may be that yours and mr_german linode accounts are limited | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, anyway, i'll investigate later, i was just curious, thanks for your time :) | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | ACTION done | 13:47 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: which linode server should I start with? | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, hm? | 13:48 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I am trying to buy one | 13:49 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, as i told you it depends on what you're planning to run on it | 13:49 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: tendenci maybe | 13:49 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, tendenci should work with a 1GB linode | 13:49 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's what abby and fipol are using | 13:50 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: can I change to more GB later ? | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you can upgrade (paying more) after you set it up | 13:50 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: cool | 13:50 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: thanks | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, np | 13:50 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: where I can see that | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, see what? | 13:51 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: abby's and fipol's | 13:51 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: memory usage | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, in the linode manager | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, Plan column | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, both use Linode 1024 | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's the smallest linode https://www.linode.com/pricing | 13:52 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 13:53 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I cannot find the 1024 | 13:54 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, 1024 = 1GB | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, 2048 = 2GB and so on | 13:56 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Where I can see how how of memory uses abby's | 13:56 |
| zOnny | *much | 13:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, in the manager go to /linodes | 13:56 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I am in | 13:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you see a table, right? | 13:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Oops! | 13:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, with columns Linode, Status, Plan, IP... | 13:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I was blind | 13:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I see it | 13:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool | 13:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I was in the dashboard | 13:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, inside a linode | 13:58 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you can use the Resize tab to find out its plan | 13:59 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's how you upgrade it too | 13:59 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I see | 13:59 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: it means if I buy 1024 MB it will only support one tendenci project, yes ? | 14:01 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, well, not really, if you know how to tweak the server configuration you could have many low traffic sites | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but performance would be bad | 14:02 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's not just RAM | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's how many virtual CPUs your server has | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, the 1GB has only one core | 14:03 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and the 2GB is not great either | 14:03 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: what you mean? | 14:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i mean that is still one core | 14:04 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 14:04 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I see what you mean | 14:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, with some tuning you can get really far | 14:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, our problem is that we haven't dedicated much time to it | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, for example our themes spit a lot of small individual js/css files | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you could compress all of those | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you could optimize how tendenci uses caching, etc | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, some day maybe we'll get there | 14:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: cool | 14:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's why you need to up your django game ;) | 14:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so you can do all of that | 14:06 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I see | 14:06 |
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