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| replaceafill | ping jelkner | 14:52 |
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| jelkner | good morning replaceafill | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | good morning jelkner | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm on my way back to San Salvador | 14:55 |
| jelkner | ah, not there yet? | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we decided not to drive last night because it's raining a lot around here | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, no, not yet | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll be home in about 1 hour | 14:55 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll check back with you later | 14:56 |
| jelkner | how is your dad doing? | 14:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can we meet after that? | 14:56 |
| jelkner | yes | 14:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it seems i have connectivity at the moment but i'm not sure how long that'll last | 14:56 |
| jelkner | understood | 14:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, he's doing better | 14:56 |
| jelkner | let's meet when you're home | 14:56 |
| jelkner | good to hear that | 14:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, have some trouble walking | 14:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but he's relatively ok | 14:57 |
| jelkner | recovery can take time | 14:57 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll talk to you when you get home | 14:57 |
| jelkner | i want to use hangouts anyway | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool, thanks | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ttyl | 14:57 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, zOnny! | 15:37 |
| zOnny | good morning jelkner | 15:38 |
| jelkner | we got the check from new jersey | 15:38 |
| jelkner | now all we need is more customers, zOnny | 15:40 |
| zOnny | jelkner: cool | 15:40 |
| jelkner | i'm waiting to talk with replaceafill when he gets home | 15:40 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 15:41 |
| jelkner | he is still traveling back from santa ana | 15:41 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ah | 15:43 |
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| replaceafill | jelkner, ready when you are | 15:54 |
| jelkner | cool, replaceafill, get your headset and give me a few more minutes | 16:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, headset ready | 16:02 |
| jelkner | just invited you | 16:10 |
| jelkner | did you get it, replaceafill? | 16:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, no | 16:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, let me try | 16:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://hangouts.google.com/call/VIvoMchT0O6WjX3Gy8j_AAEE | 16:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, quick question | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what "resource" would you recommend for someone wanting to learn programming through python? | 16:57 |
| jelkner | my favorite at present for an absolute beginner to both Python and programming is:http://www.openbookproject.net/books/StudentCSP/ | 17:04 |
| jelkner | btw, replaceafill have you heard from Marco? | 17:04 |
| jelkner | we need to deliver on out contract with VDOE | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah yes, he sent me an email this morning, and i already replied | 17:04 |
| jelkner | even though it isn't big, being on the VDOE approved list is important and we want to stay there | 17:04 |
| jelkner | excellent | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, he seems to be done with the task and needs me to double check it | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll do that this afternoon | 17:05 |
| jelkner | great | 17:05 |
| jelkner | i also want to check with mattva01 about his docker setup | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 17:05 |
| jelkner | so with any luck, we can reach out to glenda on friday | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah ok | 17:07 |
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| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~1h | 19:22 |
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| zOnny | hey replaceafill | 23:04 |
| replaceafill | hello zOnny | 23:04 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Busy ? | 23:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, as usual, need anything? | 23:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 23:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I was testing webfaction email service yesterday | 23:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Fipol's customer have requested me about user@fipol.net | 23:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ouch | 23:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you talk to jelkner about it? | 23:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes, He as usual told me "ask replaceafill" | 23:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i mean, did you agree on doing that in the current contract/deal/scope? | 23:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ah | 23:08 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: no | 23:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ok, if it was up to me, i'd say "Don't do it" | 23:08 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I will charge for doing it | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, even then | 23:09 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ? | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you plan on doing it like the way we do @novawebdevelopment.org | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you still need to get a webfaction | 23:09 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: right | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so that'll suck some of your income | 23:10 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: another server ? | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you'll need to maintain that | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and you need to help the customer set up the redirect | 23:10 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: mjsir911 was warning me about it | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, forward or whatever that is | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yep | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and *after* all of that | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you'll start getting flagged | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, because the domain is brand new | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and has no reputation | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so you'll need to deal with picky providers like yahoo and hotmail/outlook | 23:11 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Ouch | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's not that difficult | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but it's really time consuming | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you know we stopped advertising that for potential customers, right? | 23:12 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I have documented the process | 23:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mailing lists in libre organize | 23:12 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: but not sure if I can handle it | 23:12 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I just can say "NO" | 23:12 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: mailing list in libre Organize ? | 23:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, another thing to take into account is how much your customer will depend on that address | 23:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yeah | 23:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, remember members@novalaciro.org | 23:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i think you're a member there | 23:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's a mailing list | 23:14 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 23:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, like our google group | 23:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that *was* part of our libre organize plans | 23:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but i gave up | 23:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and recommended not to deal with that (yet) | 23:14 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 23:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, Marco kind of agreed | 23:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, again, if you want to explore the option, go ahead | 23:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but you've been warned :) | 23:15 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: shoot | 23:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, afaik namecheap could be an option for you | 23:16 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i mean, they have that service | 23:16 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, email | 23:16 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: really ? | 23:16 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you should at least explore it | 23:17 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i haven't | 23:17 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes | 23:17 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, not sure how expensive it is though | 23:17 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I used namecheap to fowarded | 23:17 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I will look on that | 23:18 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool | 23:18 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you're smart, you'll figure it out | 23:18 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and you need to be confident on what you think you're able to handle | 23:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, even if that contradicts other's opinions | 23:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, like mine | 23:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ok, back to docker testing for me :) | 23:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, anything else? | 23:19 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: lol all I have is what you have taught me man | 23:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we should talk python/django some time this wee | 23:20 |
| replaceafill | k | 23:20 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: that would be cool | 23:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner and i have been discussing having a simpler theme for libre organize | 23:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, maybe it's time to separate from tendenci2018 and design our own | 23:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, he complains that we need to tell users "these options we don't support" | 23:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and so on | 23:21 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: right | 23:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so those options should even not be there | 23:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and i'm not sure if "hiding" is the best option | 23:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it could work | 23:22 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: but most our user are not even familiar with the dashboard | 23:22 |
| zOnny | *users | 23:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, right | 23:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but it's not only the dashboard really | 23:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, look at the megamenu | 23:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, same problem | 23:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, lots of things | 23:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and wer're really supporting a small piece of tendenci | 23:23 |
| zOnny | replaceafill:but all these options are working, yes ? | 23:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes, but we're not training anyone on them, right | 23:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you don't teach new users to learn "Locations" for example | 23:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, or Redirects | 23:25 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: if they a willing to pay | 23:25 |
| zOnny | *are | 23:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yeah, but you need to think from a "libre organize" point of view | 23:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, those are not parts of it anyway | 23:25 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 23:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, libre organize is a very small set of features | 23:25 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I see you point so far | 23:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, membership forms/applications | 23:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, attendance sign up | 23:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, etc | 23:26 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 23:26 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I need to test libre organize in the prod to master it. | 23:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, frank my friend, frank | 23:27 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I can not talk customers about it if I don't have deployed one already | 23:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you already have it | 23:27 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: frank | 23:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you just don't realize | 23:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but i see your point too | 23:28 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we need to finish that damn integration | 23:28 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ansible i mean | 23:28 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: right | 23:28 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, maybe we could pair progam on that | 23:28 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'd like to try that with you | 23:28 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: cooooool!! | 23:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you stay on thursdays, right? | 23:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, before your dev meeting | 23:29 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 23:29 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, one question | 23:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we could try doing it then | 23:29 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: cool | 23:30 |
| mr_german | for this issue: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/27 the RP should be on master themes or tendenci7 branch? | 23:30 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, RP? | 23:30 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, that can land everywhere | 23:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, as long as you find the right templates | 23:31 |
| replaceafill | oops | 23:31 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ^ | 23:31 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, but i think we agreed on doing it on 7 only | 23:31 |
| replaceafill | see mr_german? this is a problem | 23:31 |
| mr_german | this one https://github.com/tendenci/tendenci/tree/tendenci7 | 23:32 |
| mr_german | ? | 23:32 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, when you disappear from a task for a long time | 23:32 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and come back with questions | 23:32 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i really forget what we discussed last time about it | 23:32 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, we agreed on doing something with this | 23:32 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and you don't record that | 23:32 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, iirc and i'm not sure i do, we said fixing it on 7 | 23:33 |
| mr_german | https://github.com/tendenci/tendenci/tree/tendenci7 | 23:33 |
| mr_german | ? | 23:33 |
| mr_german | because im creating my PR now | 23:33 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, that's indeed 7 | 23:33 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and i remember mentioning their base theme too | 23:33 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, because i think this is also an issue there | 23:34 |
| mr_german | yes | 23:34 |
| mr_german | but that issue is in master | 23:34 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, see? you should write all this on issues | 23:34 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so we don't need to have this repeated conversations | 23:34 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, https://github.com/tendenci/tendenci/tree/master/tendenci/themes/t7-tendenci2018 | 23:34 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, that's tendenci11 | 23:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, that's master | 23:35 |
| mr_german | oh k | 23:35 |
| mr_german | but, what do you mean to mentioning | 23:35 |
| mr_german | their base theme | 23:35 |
| mr_german | ? | 23:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, https://github.com/tendenci/tendenci-base-theme | 23:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, the issue is also there, right? | 23:36 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, so.. i've fixed it on tendenci7 but, i have to mention them about this issue on those themes and that should be all right? | 23:37 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, fix it there too! | 23:38 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, don't just tell them | 23:38 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you can create pull requests on multiple repositories | 23:38 |
| mr_german | master, tendenci7 and tendenci-base-theme? | 23:39 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, wherever you see the problem | 23:39 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, k | 23:39 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, do you see it in master? fix it, do you see in in 7? fix it, do you see it in... | 23:39 |
| mr_german | k | 23:40 |
| replaceafill | ACTION signs off for the day | 23:52 |
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