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| jelkner | Good morning, nrcerna, zOnny, replaceafill, mjsir911, mr_german! | 10:24 |
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| jelkner | nrcerna, it's especially nice to see you, since it's been awhile | 10:25 |
| jelkner | !remind | 10:25 |
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| jelkner | !remind 'Introduce Diego and discuss his available time / role | 10:26 |
| Big_Brother | Invalid arguments: No closing quotation. | 10:26 |
| jelkner | !remind 'Introduce Diego and discuss his available time / role' | 10:26 |
| Big_Brother | "Introduce Diego and discuss his available time / role" added to message queue | 10:26 |
| nrcerna | Good Morning! I know jelkner, I'm really happy to be here too | 10:26 |
| jelkner | !remind 'Ask zOnny about MD Latino Caucus and help him plan to handle it.' | 10:26 |
| Big_Brother | "Ask zOnny about MD Latino Caucus and help him plan to handle it." added to message queue | 10:26 |
| jelkner | !remind 'Planning for AEA - should we wait for Tendenci 11?' | 10:27 |
| Big_Brother | "Planning for AEA - should we wait for Tendenci 11?" added to message queue | 10:27 |
| jelkner | how are things going, nrcerna? | 10:28 |
| nrcerna | Well, I think for now I'm just fine. I had too many things to solve | 10:29 |
| nrcerna | jelkner: | 10:29 |
| nrcerna | Maybe we can get a chance to talk about it jelkner | 10:30 |
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| jelkner | yes indeed | 10:30 |
| nrcerna | Nice | 10:30 |
| jelkner | i don't know if you heard, but my plan is to fly from houston to el salvador and spend the summer there starting around july 6 | 10:30 |
| jelkner | our nea convention is in houston this year | 10:31 |
| jelkner | half way to san salvador ;-) | 10:31 |
| nrcerna | Hey, That's Great! | 10:31 |
| jelkner | i want to return with you and mr_german to the mirco brew place | 10:31 |
| nrcerna | I think I can stay in San Salvador a Few days to join you, with mr_german and replaceafill | 10:32 |
| jelkner | that would be awesome | 10:32 |
| nrcerna | Yes, we have to jelkner | 10:32 |
| zOnny | good morning mr_german | 10:34 |
| mr_german | 1+ | 10:34 |
| mr_german | good morning zOnny | 10:34 |
| zOnny | mr_german: are you will be around after the meeting ? | 10:35 |
| mr_german | yes | 10:37 |
| zOnny | mr_german: cool | 10:38 |
| zOnny | mr_german: Do you know who can purchase a Domain under NovawebDev account ? | 10:39 |
| mr_german | no | 10:40 |
| zOnny | mr_german: ok | 10:40 |
| jelkner | !remind 'ORA meeting sign-up and the general question of what features to we want our testers to use?' | 10:44 |
| Big_Brother | "ORA meeting sign-up and the general question of what features to we want our testers to use?" added to message queue | 10:44 |
| Big_Brother | Introduce Diego and discuss his available time / role (jelkner) | 11:00 |
| mjsir911 | Good morning everybody, Big brother seems to be drifting a bit (I'll investigate after the meeting) | 11:00 |
| mjsir911 | We will start with introducing Diego_ | 11:01 |
| replaceafill | good morning everybody | 11:01 |
| Diego_ | Good Morning | 11:01 |
| Diego_ | Hello everyone, I worked with NOVALACIRO over the summer and have been around on this IRC channel. | 11:03 |
| Diego_ | It's good to be here and working with NovaWebDev | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | welcome back Diego_ | 11:03 |
| jelkner | Diego_, can you tell us a bit about what you need from us? | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i know both replaceafill and mjsir911 are looking for payment | 11:03 |
| mjsir911 | Diego_: if you have not registered with nickserv, I suggest doing that later (instructions here: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration) | 11:04 |
| ubuntourist | (Welcome. BTW Diego_ is now completely registered with an @novawebdevelopment.org address.) | 11:04 |
| Diego_ | mjsir911: will do | 11:04 |
| mjsir911 | thank you ubuntourist | 11:05 |
| jelkner | and in the interest of keeping this stand up meeting going, perhaps mjsir911 and replaceafill can follow up with Diego_ after the meeting | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 11:05 |
| zOnny | Diego_: will be great if you provide us a profile picture as well | 11:05 |
| Diego_ | For now, I just need to figure out how to use this intuit software to pay people, not sure what I need from anyone else yet | 11:06 |
| mjsir911 | Okay, next item, jelkner & zOnny, planning MD Latino Caucus? | 11:06 |
| jelkner | cool, i'll jump in here | 11:07 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, mr_german we need your advice | 11:07 |
| jelkner | zOnny has been working hard on the new website | 11:07 |
| jelkner | it looks really nice | 11:07 |
| jelkner | but they are paying us peanuts | 11:07 |
| jelkner | and they keep asking for more things | 11:07 |
| jelkner | i told him i would call jason tomorrow or tuesday | 11:08 |
| jelkner | here is the trade off: | 11:08 |
| jelkner | 1. we still need to keep building our resume, and this is the kind of group we want to support | 11:08 |
| jelkner | 2. zOnny needs to pay his bills, and this isn't helping | 11:08 |
| jelkner | so i'll have to call them and figure out what is going on | 11:09 |
| zOnny | jelkner: is not only this, the only concern I have is my time | 11:09 |
| jelkner | i understand | 11:09 |
| jelkner | in the future, if we are to be successful, we will need a full time business manager | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so Diego_ as you know, we can't afford that now | 11:10 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I cannot be fully involve with our work if I don't have time to work on it | 11:10 |
| jelkner | but we need to figure out how to make best use of your limited time | 11:10 |
| jelkner | i'll report back on this next week | 11:11 |
| jelkner | let's move on | 11:11 |
| mr_german | i can help with that zOnny | 11:11 |
| zOnny | mr_german: sure | 11:11 |
| jelkner | thanks, mr_german! | 11:11 |
| zOnny | mr_german: I will share with you the docs | 11:12 |
| mr_german | 1+ cool | 11:12 |
| mjsir911 | Okay, next item: planning for aea: wait until tendenci 11: jelkner | 11:12 |
| jelkner | this is really mr_german with help from replaceafill and zOnny | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we have a catch-22 | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we need our testing customers to use our product | 11:12 |
| jelkner | or we can't test it properly | 11:13 |
| jelkner | but we are in this tendenci 7 vs 11 thing | 11:13 |
| jelkner | and don't want to waste time making changes to tendenci 7 | 11:13 |
| jelkner | since we have such limited resources, we need to use them wisely | 11:13 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, split the difference and go with 9? ;-) | 11:13 |
| replaceafill | :D | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i'll do whatever y'all tell me, ubuntourist | 11:14 |
| jelkner | but i need to know what to tell our users | 11:14 |
| jelkner | anything from, sorry folks, we can't really support you for awhile | 11:15 |
| jelkner | to let's move ahead with these core features | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i need to get in sync with you devs on this | 11:15 |
| jelkner | we don't want disappointed / angry customers | 11:15 |
| jelkner | ora is a case in point | 11:15 |
| jelkner | email sent this morning about sign-up for tomorrow | 11:15 |
| jelkner | perhaps we can't handle sign-up | 11:15 |
| jelkner | and we should tell them just to use meetup.com | 11:16 |
| jelkner | not good for our promotion | 11:16 |
| jelkner | but better than telling them we have something we don't | 11:16 |
| jelkner | that's the issue | 11:16 |
| ubuntourist | This is where I wish I had more time: Without knowing anything about Tendenci really, my completely uninformed opinion is to say "This one goes to 11" | 11:16 |
| jelkner | we can talk more after the meeting | 11:16 |
| ubuntourist | (Spinal Tap reference) | 11:17 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, thoughts? | 11:17 |
| jelkner | actually, mr_german, thoughts? | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's better :) | 11:18 |
| jelkner | a word on that, my friend | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i'll keep addressing my questions to our only full time developer | 11:18 |
| jelkner | but with the understanding that is uncle has his back behind the scenes, yes? | 11:18 |
| ubuntourist | So. Tendenci 11 is "ready for prime time" but we're not ready for Tendenci 11? Or is Tendenci 11 itself still "rough around the edges" but "basically" usable? | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, a word on that | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | mr_german needs to really understand the problems/questions you address him with | 11:19 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:19 |
| jelkner | and he needs to ask for clarification when he doesn't | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | i'm confident once he passes that point he's able to handle most of things | 11:20 |
| replaceafill | yep, that's mr_german work | 11:20 |
| jelkner | with time, he will become expert on our product | 11:20 |
| jelkner | and how customer use it | 11:20 |
| jelkner | mr_german, can you say something please? | 11:20 |
| mr_german | ;) | 11:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, to be honest, i'm worried how motivated mr_german is to do that | 11:20 |
| mr_german | well, thats true replaceafill | 11:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we can discuss mr_german discipline of work later if you want | 11:21 |
| mr_german | i need to understand questions and problems as you say | 11:21 |
| jelkner | and the best way to do that, mr_german, is to communicate | 11:21 |
| jelkner | talk to us, man, talk to us! | 11:21 |
| jelkner | also you need to develop the confidence to stand your ground and tell me off sometimes | 11:22 |
| jelkner | like, sorry, jelkner, we can't deliver that until march! | 11:22 |
| jelkner | or something like that | 11:22 |
| jelkner | we are putting a lot on your shoulders | 11:22 |
| jelkner | and we need accurate info from you to make this work | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i'll be interfacing with our testers | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i need to manage their expectations | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i can't do that if i don't have accurate information | 11:23 |
| jelkner | ok, enough on this for now | 11:23 |
| jelkner | this is an ongoing discussion | 11:23 |
| mjsir911 | okay, next item: ora meeting signup & what features we want our testers to use | 11:23 |
| jelkner | mjsir911, this is really what we've been discussing | 11:24 |
| jelkner | the only concrete thing is, mr_german can we answer tim's question? | 11:24 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, would any of my crappy SQL scripts from the ARA project help anyone learn about Tendenci and PostgreSQL? (zOnny was saying he hasn't dug deep into PostgreSQL. Do people need to dig deep? Or is the Tendenci ORM enough?) | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, it's django orm and tendenci doesn't use much raw sql | 11:25 |
| mr_german | jelkner, i need to read and understand | 11:25 |
| jelkner | basically, people can't sign up for tomorrow's event | 11:26 |
| jelkner | since it is closed | 11:26 |
| jelkner | 24 hours before the event starts | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, but they have a package that allows you to do raw queries to explore your data | 11:26 |
| jelkner | tim asked about that last month | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, in that case knowing sql is tremendously valuable | 11:26 |
| jelkner | btw. can you please confirm sign-in will work tomorrow night? | 11:26 |
| jelkner | i will be standing up at the beginning of the meeting asking people to sign in | 11:26 |
| jelkner | i don't want it to not work! | 11:27 |
| jelkner | ACTION is done with that | 11:27 |
| jelkner | i'll ping mr_german tomorrow during my lunch to follow up | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, word on that | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, tomorrow i won't be able to do firefighting at meeting time | 11:27 |
| jelkner | hopefully we won't need it, replaceafill | 11:27 |
| jelkner | if we have a system that requires live human intervention, we're SOL as they say | 11:28 |
| jelkner | SOL == shit outta luck | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | let's go through the weeds of that (i really don't want to) after the meeting | 11:29 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | "let's have a meeting after the meeting" :D | 11:29 |
| mjsir911 | Alright, last order of business: chair for next week. Any takers? | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | i can take it | 11:30 |
| mjsir911 | replaceafill: that works, thanks! | 11:30 |
| replaceafill | thank you | 11:30 |
| mjsir911 | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:30 |
| jelkner | nice job, mjsir911, thanks! | 11:30 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, ready for our after meeting meeting? | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 11:31 |
| mjsir911 | replaceafill: I'll be working with diego to get myself paid, after that he will have a easier time doing that for you, too. Sound good? | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, sure, np | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can you hang out? | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, my fingers are getting tired... | 11:32 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:32 |
| jelkner | let me see | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | ACTION is pulling a jelkner on jelkner :D | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, to answer your tendenci 11 question, it's stable-ish but we don't have experience using it or migrating from 7 | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | oh call from jelkner | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you're working full time today, right? | 11:37 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, sure | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ok, we need to hang out with jelkner a bit later | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i mean, today, in a few minutes | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, when jelkner is available | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so stay around and ready please | 11:40 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i'm ready | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool, call me | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that seemed to work | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ready? | 11:44 |
| jelkner | just sent invite | 11:44 |
| jelkner | where are you? | 11:44 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, well, spoke too soon i guess, it didn't show this time | 11:44 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll try | 11:44 |
| mr_german | ok | 11:45 |
| mr_german | im here | 11:45 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, your not in the hangout either | 11:45 |
| jelkner | we need to move fast | 11:45 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://hangouts.google.com/call/_jLHT9rUsdSdOncGnh7KAEEE | 11:45 |
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| replaceafill | mr_german, are you here? | 11:52 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, we cannot hear you | 11:53 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, i think my mic again | 11:53 |
| mr_german | wait | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, but you picked what jelkner said? | 11:53 |
| mr_german | yes | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, oops | 12:33 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: one question | 12:33 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, can you join again :D | 12:33 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: who can buy a domain with the novawebdev account ? | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, louie used to | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner "can" | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, hhmm not sure on that last statement... | 12:35 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Does it can be changed ? | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i don't know | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you'll need to bother louie | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, are you leaving for lunch? | 12:36 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes, they are waiting | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i can explain what *i* see in namecheap that may make sense to you | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'll be around for 1 more hour | 12:36 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: cool | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, maybe we can talk when you come back | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, kk enjoy lunch | 12:36 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I really apreciate that | 12:36 |
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| zOnny | hello replaceafill | 13:57 |
| replaceafill | hey zOnny | 13:58 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Did you get a chance to look at ? | 13:59 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, at what...? | 13:59 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, can you hang out? | 14:00 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, my fingers get tired quickly now | 14:00 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: sure | 14:01 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, https://hangouts.google.com/call/3BltAgTOZjBmV1JXISC6AEEE | 14:02 |
| DG123 | replaceafill: could we work out how much you're owed / your last invoice after your meeting with z0nny? | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/ansible_role_tendenci/blob/master/tasks/project.yml | 14:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/ansible_role_tendenci/blob/master/tasks/project.yml#L162 | 14:32 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, http://rosslynrotary.net/en/ | 14:35 |
| replaceafill | dg123, ping | 14:56 |
| dg123 | replaceafill: I'm here | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | dg123, sorry that i didn't see your messages before | 14:57 |
| dg123 | replaceafill, no problem | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | dg123, at this point i'd expect my october payment of $3k | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | dg123, it was supposed from us invoicing for the gallaudet work i did from september-november | 14:58 |
| replaceafill | dg123, it was supposed to come * | 14:58 |
| replaceafill | dg123, but i'm not sure if that's happened already | 14:58 |
| replaceafill | dg123, i mean, we just sent the last invoice last week | 14:58 |
| replaceafill | dg123, do you have access to our shared folder? | 14:58 |
| dg123 | replaceafill, yes I do, but we're having a little trouble because some things that seem to be visible for other people aren't for me | 15:01 |
| dg123 | replaceafill, that invoice was sent on Dec. 3rd, right? | 15:02 |
| replaceafill | dg123, correct | 15:02 |
| replaceafill | dg123, fyi so far i have never invoiced NOVA Web Development | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | dg123, and this probably will make your work more confusing, and sorry about that | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | dg123, but i have every transfer registered here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1thXxESyYdgnI1zXYIqmOj5JF2130xjh-EE_l1ois26c/edit#gid=0 | 15:08 |
| dg123 | replaceafill, looks like they haven't paid yet, but it's only been a week. Since scheduled payday is very soon, I'll ask jelkner what protocol is in this case | 15:08 |
| dg123 | replaceafill, and all those payments listed in that doc have gone through? | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | dg123, yes | 15:10 |
| replaceafill | dg123, that's every transaction coming to my bank account for salvadorean related business | 15:10 |
| replaceafill | dg123, sorry that is in spanish :( | 15:10 |
| dg123 | replaceafill, not a problem :) | 15:11 |
| replaceafill | dg123, :) | 15:11 |
| dg123 | jelkner is currently on a call, like I said I'll ask him what to do when payday is now but we have accounts receivable. | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | dg123, cool, thanks for taking care of this | 15:12 |
| dg123 | replaceafill, any time. I'll go ahead & pay you right now. | 15:15 |
| replaceafill | dg123, awesome, thanks! | 15:16 |
| dg123 | replaceafill, so you said you'd never been paid directly out of NovaWebDev's bank account before, correct? | 15:22 |
| replaceafill | dg123, louie and jeff pays me through xoom | 15:23 |
| replaceafill | dg123, but i'm not sure about the specifics | 15:23 |
| replaceafill | dg123, i kind of remember louie saying that the bank account was linked to xoom | 15:24 |
| dg123 | replaceafill: I don't think louie gave me the login info for xoom, give a couple minutes to figure that out | 15:27 |
| replaceafill | dg123, sure | 15:27 |
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