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| jelkner | !remind Invoice NOVALACIRO for LibreOrganize work. | 10:55 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind | 10:56 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, nrcerna | 10:59 |
| nrcerna | Good morning jelkner | 10:59 |
| zOnny | Hello Everyone! | 11:00 |
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| jelkner | Good morning all | 11:00 |
| DG123 | Good morning | 11:00 |
| mjsir911 | good morning | 11:00 |
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| nrcerna | Hello :) | 11:00 |
| zOnny | let's start with the agenda's items | 11:00 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION yawns, grumbles, etc. | 11:01 |
| zOnny | discuss problems with business email and Gallaudet's contract (zOnny) | 11:01 |
| zOnny | zOnny go for it | 11:01 |
| ubuntourist | ;-) | 11:01 |
| DarvinW | you can do it | 11:01 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, you're our email guy | 11:01 |
| jelkner | can you help zOnny debug what happened with the email sent to his novawebdevelopment address? | 11:02 |
| zOnny | well, this is a problem with our business email as you may guess | 11:02 |
| jelkner | if we want to use those addresses, they need to work | 11:02 |
| ubuntourist | looking back, I can find no evidence that anyone has done an Adobe Sign from an @novawebdevelopment.org address. | 11:02 |
| zOnny | We problably test it sending documents with adobe sign | 11:03 |
| ubuntourist | I'm not certain what address Gallaudet used when sending Adobe Sign documents to Louis. | 11:03 |
| jelkner | if you are suggesting they can't, that's a problem | 11:03 |
| jelkner | since we don't want these contract emails to fail | 11:04 |
| jelkner | and if we are giving out novawebdevelopment.org addresses, our customers will use them | 11:04 |
| zOnny | not sure if Adobe sign keeps the records and it is not for testing porpuses | 11:04 |
| jelkner | anyway, ubuntourist, would you be willing to look into it? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | maybe mjsir911 could help you? | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | Since I still have an @gallaudet.edu address, let me see if I have enough access to Adobe Sign to create a test document. | 11:05 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:05 |
| zOnny | ubuntourist: great! | 11:05 |
| zOnny | next item | 11:06 |
| zOnny | Check-in on AEA CMS save problem. (jelkner) | 11:06 |
| ubuntourist | If I cannot, maybe I can "ride shotgun" with Susan and see what the error message says, exactly. | 11:06 |
| jelkner | zOnny, did you get a chance to try to change that page? | 11:06 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, +1 | 11:06 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yes, I did | 11:06 |
| jelkner | and? | 11:06 |
| jelkner | you were able to change it | 11:07 |
| jelkner | was it a permissions problem or me being stupid? | 11:07 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I can change it even with another user | 11:08 |
| jelkner | ok, probably me | 11:08 |
| jelkner | unless i see it again, let's move on | 11:08 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:08 |
| zOnny | jelkner: do you see a warning? | 11:08 |
| jelkner | no | 11:08 |
| jelkner | it seemed like it worked (no warning) | 11:09 |
| zOnny | jelkner: tendenci is good telling you if something doesn't work | 11:09 |
| jelkner | but the page looked the same | 11:09 |
| ubuntourist | caching? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | maybe, but i tried refreshing | 11:09 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking it is not worth our time now | 11:09 |
| jelkner | i'll keep an eye out for it | 11:09 |
| jelkner | let's move on | 11:10 |
| zOnny | jelkner: we need to look on it together | 11:10 |
| zOnny | ok | 11:10 |
| zOnny | nex item | 11:10 |
| jelkner | when i get to santa ana | 11:10 |
| zOnny | Set goals for week 1 of Summer sprint starting tomorrow. (jelkner) | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so this is super important | 11:10 |
| jelkner | zOnny, nrcerna, GFbot | 11:10 |
| ubuntourist | Sprinting for four weeks, yes? | 11:10 |
| jelkner | tomorrow at 10 am our time, the summer sprint starts | 11:11 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, you'll be working with one of our interns | 11:11 |
| jelkner | do you know what to do? | 11:11 |
| jelkner | nrcerna? | 11:12 |
| jelkner | while we wait for nrcerna, since time is short | 11:12 |
| jelkner | let me suggest what we should do with both interns | 11:12 |
| nrcerna | Yes, I planned the first week we can investigate with Samantha about our chance to promote us | 11:13 |
| jelkner | zOnny, get them working on learning html and css | 11:13 |
| jelkner | and unix cli | 11:13 |
| jelkner | basics | 11:13 |
| jelkner | those are the survival skills they will need to work with us | 11:13 |
| nrcerna | I mean specific places we can offer our core product and services | 11:13 |
| ubuntourist | (BTW we have DarvinW on-board this morning, you may have noted.) | 11:13 |
| nrcerna | Im I right? | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i have, ubuntourist, i was going to ask who he is | 11:14 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 11:14 |
| DarvinW | I'm Sophia | 11:14 |
| jelkner | ah yes | 11:14 |
| jelkner | sorry DarvinW | 11:14 |
| DarvinW | Still picking up Django, should I learn some html and css as well? | 11:14 |
| DarvinW | No worries | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i didn't recognize your nick | 11:14 |
| jelkner | welcome | 11:14 |
| DarvinW | I'm focusing on django right now | 11:15 |
| jelkner | great to have you hear with us | 11:15 |
| nrcerna | jelkner: it is okay to work in that? Or should we work in something else? | 11:15 |
| DarvinW | On html and css as well? | 11:15 |
| jelkner | no, DarvinW, you shouldn't do that | 11:15 |
| jelkner | let me propose what i see that the "big picture" for our summer sprint | 11:15 |
| jelkner | beginning with the following assumptions: | 11:16 |
| jelkner | 1. We have 3 coop members, nrcerna, GFbot, and zOnny, who want our coop to be their full time jobs | 11:16 |
| jelkner | 2. We have interns and others who want part time employment with us | 11:16 |
| jelkner | 3. To make that possible, we need revenue | 11:16 |
| jelkner | 4. To make that possible, we need skills and expertise we can market | 11:17 |
| jelkner | so, working backward | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we need to: | 11:17 |
| jelkner | 1. Learn enough Django to be able to effectively build custom web applications | 11:17 |
| jelkner | 2. Learn to style them so that our applications are not only nice applications, but beautiful too | 11:18 |
| jelkner | so we need some of us with design chops, lead by nrcerna to learn to make beautiful and easy to use UIs | 11:19 |
| jelkner | and we need other of us, lead by zOnny, to build back-end application logic | 11:19 |
| jelkner | does that make sense? | 11:19 |
| jelkner | zOnny, nrcerna does that make sense to you? | 11:19 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 11:20 |
| nrcerna | Yes, as the last summer right? | 11:20 |
| jelkner | so the way i see it, zOnny works with GFbot and DarvinW to learn Django | 11:20 |
| GFbot | right | 11:20 |
| DarvinW | Got it. | 11:20 |
| jelkner | and nrcerna works with the interns on HTML and CSS with a specific focus on styling Django templates | 11:21 |
| jelkner | everyone needs basic unix cli | 11:21 |
| jelkner | so that's where to start | 11:21 |
| jelkner | btw. i need to leave at 11:30, so we probably should move on | 11:22 |
| jelkner | if this was helpful | 11:22 |
| zOnny | next item | 11:22 |
| zOnny | Invoice NOVALACIRO for LibreOrganize work. (jelkner) | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | Are we going to start that since tomorrow or when you come jelkner? | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | I asked that to GFbot last time | 11:22 |
| jelkner | Cool, zOnny we now have a customer we can bill for LibreOrganize work | 11:23 |
| jelkner | so let's get working on that | 11:23 |
| jelkner | and keeping track of our hours for the purpose of invoicing | 11:23 |
| DG123 | This should be a simple invoice, I created a template and all that needs to be done is I need to work with zOnny to write in what specific tasks we're invoicing for | 11:23 |
| jelkner | DG123 agreed with me that we should bill NOVALACIRO at $60 per hour | 11:24 |
| jelkner | but we can't get paid if we don't invoice | 11:24 |
| zOnny | ok | 11:24 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:25 |
| zOnny | alright | 11:25 |
| zOnny | there is someone else would like to share something ? | 11:26 |
| zOnny | *else | 11:26 |
| nrcerna | jelkner: I'm going to reach you by email | 11:26 |
| jelkner | great, nrcerna | 11:26 |
| jelkner | i need to leave now | 11:26 |
| nrcerna | Ok cool | 11:26 |
| jelkner | and i will be off the grid for the next week | 11:26 |
| jelkner | except by email | 11:26 |
| jelkner | so nrcerna, GFbot, looking forward to seeing you in santa ana! | 11:27 |
| nrcerna | Yesss!!! | 11:27 |
| jelkner | have a great week, everyone! | 11:27 |
| GFbot | you too jelkner | 11:27 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:27 |
| zOnny | alright | 11:27 |
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| zOnny | It seems that we're done | 11:28 |
| zOnny | 3 | 11:28 |
| zOnny | 2 | 11:28 |
| zOnny | 1 | 11:28 |
| zOnny | ACTION ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:28 |
| ubuntourist | Dropped me and missed this message | 11:28 |
| ubuntourist | Just remember to keep the invoice numbering system reasonable. What we'd somewhat agreed on before was a unique prefix for the project, followed by a sequential number | 11:28 |
| zOnny | ubuntourist: right | 11:29 |
| ubuntourist | BTW, http://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/ once again has a case-sensitive version of the channel name... | 11:29 |
| zOnny | Big Brother seems to be case sensitive | 11:30 |
| zOnny | try to join the channel ----> #novawebdev (all lowercases) | 11:31 |
| mjsir911 | wierd, I checked before the meeting and it wasnt there... | 11:31 |
| mjsir911 | will investigate further | 11:32 |
| zOnny | mjsir911: great | 11:32 |
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