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| jelkner | !remind | 07:04 |
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| jelkner | !remind Timeline for ORA and NEA4OR LibreOrganize | 07:04 |
| "Timeline for ORA and NEA4OR LibreOrganize" added to message queue | 07:04 | |
| jelkner | !remind Ask Natalia to follow up with Tim about ORA members | 07:12 |
| "Ask Natalia to follow up with Tim about ORA members" added to message queue | 07:12 | |
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| ubuntourist | ACTION yawns, stretches, rubs sore old back,.. | 07:21 |
| ubuntourist | ping jelkner | 07:21 |
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| jelkner | Good morning lbolz and nrcerna! | 10:30 |
| *** SITarabuta has joined #novawebdev | 10:30 | |
| jelkner | and welcome to you too, SITarabuta | 10:30 |
| nrcerna | Good Morning! | 10:30 |
| SITarabuta | Good morning! | 10:30 |
| jelkner | lbolz, got a few minutes for a pre-meeting conversation? | 10:31 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, did you see my email to Tim? | 10:31 |
| nrcerna | Yes jelkner | 10:32 |
| jelkner | can i give you a quick call now to talk about that? | 10:32 |
| nrcerna | sure | 10:32 |
| lbolz | Good morning everyone! | 10:37 |
| jelkner | lbolz, got a minute? | 10:40 |
| jelkner | ACTION waits for lbolz to reply... | 10:40 |
| lbolz | yes | 10:41 |
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| jelkner | lbolz, ubuntourist just sent you an email | 10:42 |
| lbolz | i just saw it | 10:42 |
| jelkner | i would love to give you your bounty this thursday | 10:42 |
| jelkner | can you have two things done by then: | 10:42 |
| jelkner | 1. a running instance of testament for ubuntourist to try out | 10:42 |
| jelkner | 2. a message sent to the developers letting them know what you've done | 10:43 |
| jelkner | if you can answer "yes" to those 2 questions | 10:43 |
| jelkner | i'll write you a check on thursday | 10:43 |
| jelkner | oops | 10:43 |
| jelkner | thursday is thanksgiving ;-) | 10:43 |
| jelkner | i can't give you the check until monday after | 10:44 |
| jelkner | but we can still make that the goal | 10:44 |
| jelkner | to get it ready by then end of thanksgiving break | 10:44 |
| jelkner | what say you, lbolz? | 10:44 |
| lbolz | i think we can get both of those things done by then | 10:44 |
| jelkner | awesome | 10:44 |
| lbolz | we have it running, just some of the pages are broken | 10:44 |
| jelkner | just let ubuntourist know when they are done | 10:44 |
| jelkner | cool | 10:44 |
| ubuntourist | As the Brits say "Luv'ly". | 10:45 |
| jelkner | btw. lbolz i spoke with our ASL teacher | 10:45 |
| jelkner | she is interested in sign and read | 10:45 |
| jelkner | so the thrusday after thanksgiving | 10:45 |
| jelkner | you and zOnny can start on that | 10:46 |
| lbolz | ok | 10:47 |
| nrcerna | !remind | 10:52 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, hrodriguez | 10:55 |
| nrcerna | !remind Ask Heylin to help us with Database / info upgrade on NOVALACIRO website | 10:55 |
| "Ask Heylin to help us with Database / info upgrade on NOVALACIRO website" added to message queue | 10:55 | |
| hrodriguez : GFbot : @ubuntourist : SITarabuta : lbolz : nrcerna : +jelkner : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ | 10:56 | |
| Check on where folks are at in order to do human resource planning (jelkner) | 10:56 | |
| Should we upgrade all of our templates, just some sites, or nothing to Bootstrap 4/5? (SITarabuta) | 10:56 | |
| Timeline for ORA and NEA4OR LibreOrganize (jelkner) | 10:56 | |
| Ask Natalia to follow up with Tim about ORA members (jelkner) | 10:56 | |
| Ask Heylin to help us with Database / info upgrade on NOVALACIRO website (nrcerna) | 10:56 | |
| nrcerna | jelkner Big_Brother came up a bit earlier than usual | 10:57 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, it keeps doing that | 10:57 |
| nrcerna | yep | 10:57 |
| jelkner | i want to talk to SITarabuta about moving it off webfaction | 10:57 |
| jelkner | and taking it over from mjsir911 | 10:57 |
| mjsir911 | +1 | 10:57 |
| SITarabuta | +1 | 10:57 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 10:57 |
| jelkner | we're all agreed on that, so SITarabuta have at it as your holiday project ;-) | 10:58 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 10:58 |
| mjsir911 | I can help ofc if you need | 10:58 |
| ubuntourist | My limited sense: Not too difficult, though I haven't poked at it beyond restarting it. | 10:58 |
| SITarabuta | alright, i got it ;) | 10:59 |
| nrcerna | Ok | 11:00 |
| nrcerna | Good morning everyone!:) | 11:00 |
| ubuntourist | Hi all | 11:01 |
| jelkner | Good morning | 11:01 |
| GFbot | hello | 11:01 |
| SITarabuta | morning | 11:01 |
| lbolz | morning! | 11:01 |
| hrodriguez | Gm | 11:01 |
| nrcerna | We have a great agenda today! | 11:01 |
| nrcerna | So we are going to try to make it quickly, we have a lot of work to do | 11:02 |
| nrcerna | first item : Check status of NWD from /opt to /srv (ubuntourist) | 11:02 |
| ubuntourist | So, that's my question: GFbot what's the scoop? | 11:02 |
| GFbot | ubuntourist is running on srv right now :) | 11:03 |
| ubuntourist | Well. That was a quick agenda item. ;-) | 11:03 |
| nrcerna | nice | 11:03 |
| jelkner | You rock, GFbot! | 11:03 |
| nrcerna | :) | 11:03 |
| GFbot | 1+ | 11:03 |
| ubuntourist | (And that was item two as well. So two birds with one stone.) | 11:03 |
| nrcerna | so jelkner the next its yours ... Check on status of move NOVAWeb website from /opt to /srv (jelkner) | 11:04 |
| nrcerna | Oh! | 11:04 |
| jelkner | ACTION done ;-) | 11:04 |
| nrcerna | sorry, next item | 11:04 |
| nrcerna | check on where folks are at in order to do human resource planning (jelkner) | 11:04 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is in DC. ;-) | 11:05 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, i met with SITarabuta, lbolz, and zOnny last Thursday | 11:05 |
| jelkner | they are all interested in a continued relationship with NOVA Web Dev | 11:05 |
| jelkner | so we should plan accordingly | 11:05 |
| jelkner | now all we need to do is two things: | 11:05 |
| jelkner | 1. develop enough skills to grab gigs | 11:06 |
| jelkner | 2. grab enough gigs to keep everyone getting paid what they want to earn | 11:06 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:06 |
| nrcerna | Great, thanks jelkner | 11:06 |
| nrcerna | next item: Should we upgrade all of our templates, just some sites, or nothing to Bootstrap 4/5? (SITarabuta) | 11:07 |
| GFbot | :) | 11:07 |
| nrcerna | This concern to GFbot as well | 11:07 |
| jelkner | GFbot, you're call | 11:07 |
| nrcerna | We need to know your opinion GFbot | 11:07 |
| SITarabuta | +1 | 11:07 |
| GFbot | well, we talk with Douglas last year | 11:08 |
| GFbot | talked* | 11:08 |
| GFbot | the problem is that we have to change our template i mean LibreOrganize | 11:08 |
| GFbot | and template for tendenci | 11:08 |
| jelkner | didn't SITarabuta do much of this? | 11:08 |
| GFbot | jelkner and it will take time | 11:08 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta made a compelling argument in e-mail in favor of this, in my opinion. I didn't see a downside, but, that's another tech I don't know well. | 11:09 |
| GFbot | jelkner at this point | 11:09 |
| SITarabuta | The only thing is that they changed the name of some classes. And are we using Tendenci templates? I thought we are making our own | 11:09 |
| ubuntourist | It's that whole "EOL" (End of Life) thing and getting ready for it earlier, rather than later, is pro-active rather than re-active. | 11:09 |
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| GFbot95 | ups, i got dc | 11:10 |
| jelkner | GFbot, SITarabuta, it is crucial you two communicate regularly | 11:10 |
| jelkner | nrcerna and i will help prod you in that direction | 11:10 |
| jelkner | but you need to do it on your own | 11:10 |
| jelkner | i don't want to dampen SITarabuta's initiative | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so it is very important, GFbot, that you explain to him what the challenges are | 11:11 |
| ubuntourist | I did have the question about 4? or 5? How long is 4 supported for? and are there compelling reasons to wait for the fantasy that "5 will be ready in the spring" to become reality? | 11:11 |
| jelkner | so he can either say, "I can do that", or "I can't do that now", better to wait | 11:11 |
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| SITarabuta | Well, Bootstrap 4 EOL is at the end of 2020 | 11:11 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, looks like GFbot dropped off | 11:11 |
| GFbot_ | im here. | 11:11 |
| SITarabuta | And Bootstrap 5 is supposed to come in Q1-Q1 of 2020, but I don't know how accurate that is | 11:12 |
| SITarabuta | I do know that they have a public beta atm | 11:12 |
| jelkner | So, GFbot_, can you please meet with SITarabuta on this today? | 11:12 |
| GFbot_ | ok | 11:12 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 11:12 |
| GFbot_ | SITarabuta we should focus on BS4 | 11:12 |
| SITarabuta | ok | 11:13 |
| GFbot_ | i worked with BS4, its stable for wha we need! | 11:13 |
| GFbot_ | x) | 11:13 |
| SITarabuta | Again, they mainly renamed panels to cards and that is about it | 11:13 |
| SITarabuta | yup! | 11:13 |
| nrcerna | it is done the item? | 11:13 |
| GFbot_ | SITarabuta yes, some classes are gone and that what we have to change | 11:13 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 11:13 |
| GFbot_ | ACTION done | 11:13 |
| ubuntourist | Then BS4 it is. Forget 5 until the dust settles. | 11:14 |
| GFbot | ubuntourist yes, sir! | 11:14 |
| nrcerna | Ok, lets move on to the next one | 11:14 |
| nrcerna | Timeline for ORA and NEA4OR LibreOrganize (jelkner) | 11:14 |
| jelkner | we have a huge opportunity with the US presidential election cycle this year that we won't have again for four years | 11:15 |
| jelkner | (or ever mayby, if Trump wins :-( | 11:15 |
| jelkner | but to be relevant, we need ORA and NEA4OR working by January at the latest | 11:16 |
| jelkner | can that happen? | 11:16 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:16 |
| nrcerna | This is a question for GFbot | 11:16 |
| jelkner | yes, nrcerna, that's who i'm asking ;-) | 11:16 |
| GFbot | :D? | 11:17 |
| GFbot | they are working or not? | 11:17 |
| GFbot | ora and nea | 11:17 |
| nrcerna | GFbot, we talked a couploe of weeks that you need to focus then on ORA and NEA4OR | 11:17 |
| jelkner | GFbot, can ORA and NEA4OR be LibreOrganized by January? | 11:17 |
| GFbot | we dont have helios | 11:18 |
| GFbot | at the moment | 11:18 |
| GFbot | jelkner | 11:18 |
| jelkner | GFbot, you and i need to meet on this | 11:18 |
| jelkner | let's ditch helios for now | 11:18 |
| jelkner | ORA doesn't need it | 11:18 |
| jelkner | remember, they want rank choice voting | 11:18 |
| nrcerna | I remember that jelkner | 11:18 |
| jelkner | we got them to agree that we could do that in an less than anonymous way | 11:19 |
| jelkner | and they are ok with that | 11:19 |
| nrcerna | I told you GFbot that ORA dindt need it | 11:19 |
| GFbot | oh well in that case can be possible | 11:19 |
| jelkner | so we don't need helios | 11:19 |
| jelkner | only AEA does | 11:19 |
| jelkner | and that is going to wait until later in 2020 | 11:19 |
| GFbot | got it | 11:20 |
| jelkner | ok, nrcerna and jelkner will talk more about this | 11:20 |
| nrcerna | sure | 11:20 |
| jelkner | and follow up with GFbot | 11:20 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:20 |
| nrcerna | Next item Ask Natalia to follow up with Tim about ORA members (jelkner) | 11:20 |
| nrcerna | its done jelkner | 11:21 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, you and i talked | 11:21 |
| nrcerna | yes | 11:21 |
| jelkner | we just need to let everyone else know what we're up to | 11:21 |
| GFbot | :) | 11:21 |
| jelkner | basically, i'm saying nrcerna needs to learn to be a power user of LibreOrganzie | 11:21 |
| jelkner | so she and i can market it | 11:21 |
| jelkner | so this is a good opportunity for her | 11:21 |
| jelkner | she agreed | 11:21 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | :) | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | so the next item | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | Ask Heylin to help us with Database / info upgrade on NOVALACIRO website | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | That's mine | 11:22 |
| GFbot | LibreOrganize is user friendly :) jelkner | 11:22 |
| jelkner | LoL | 11:22 |
| jelkner | yes it is! | 11:23 |
| nrcerna | As you all know we are working on NOVALACIROS website | 11:23 |
| nrcerna | So I wanted to ask you hrodriguez if you can take care of the content | 11:23 |
| nrcerna | I mean we have the information of their website | 11:23 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez, are you here? | 11:23 |
| hrodriguez | [yes | 11:24 |
| jelkner | as we discussed this morning, hrodriguez | 11:24 |
| nrcerna | but SITarabuta needs help with the spanish | 11:24 |
| jelkner | this is one of your main tasks now | 11:24 |
| jelkner | getting the NOVALACIRO up | 11:24 |
| hrodriguez | yes I can do it | 11:24 |
| jelkner | by working with nrcerna, GFbot, and SITarabuta | 11:24 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:24 |
| nrcerna | so, could you plase take care of this and see if we need to update some information? | 11:24 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, can you help guide her through the process | 11:25 |
| jelkner | how should she get you the info you need? | 11:25 |
| jelkner | email? | 11:25 |
| jelkner | and Google doc? | 11:25 |
| nrcerna | we need to updated this: https://novalaciro.org/board-members/ | 11:25 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez, please email nrcerna if you have questions | 11:25 |
| nrcerna | a google doc could be great | 11:25 |
| jelkner | or arrange to meet with her on irc | 11:25 |
| hrodriguez | so I jus need to check the content | 11:26 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 11:26 |
| hrodriguez | and let you know if is good | 11:26 |
| hrodriguez | or if it needs changes | 11:26 |
| nrcerna | yes, and you can help SITarabuta put it all that together in a google doc | 11:26 |
| SITarabuta | +1 | 11:27 |
| jelkner | cool, we will check in again next sunday on progress | 11:27 |
| ubuntourist | Next weekend, being Thanksgiving weekend, I don't know about others availability. I will be around and available, and I assume our compatriots to the south will be as well, as this is a US holiday... | 11:27 |
| nrcerna | I can check it and help SITarabuta in case he has some questions | 11:27 |
| jelkner | i'll be in pennsylvania with family | 11:27 |
| jelkner | i should be able to attend | 11:28 |
| jelkner | but not at HacDC | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so, SITarabuta, ubuntourist, you two should plan together what you're going to do | 11:28 |
| SITarabuta | ok | 11:28 |
| jelkner | let's see if ubuntourist has an update from Susan by then | 11:28 |
| jelkner | which could mean it is worth your time to come to DC, SITarabuta | 11:29 |
| SITarabuta | yes | 11:29 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, I will assume Sunday 10:00 at HacDC unless I hear otherwise. | 11:29 |
| SITarabuta | that's a good time | 11:29 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, (I usually don't check e-mail Sunday morning. So, if plans change, let me know by Saturday night.) | 11:30 |
| SITarabuta | +1 | 11:30 |
| nrcerna | anything else?:) | 11:31 |
| nrcerna | or are we done? | 11:31 |
| jelkner | pick a chair, nrcerna | 11:31 |
| jelkner | then drop the bag ;-) | 11:31 |
| nrcerna | yes :) | 11:31 |
| ubuntourist | Chair du jour? Or du whatever week is in french? | 11:31 |
| nrcerna | You can :) ubuntourist | 11:32 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION sighs "I *suppose*" ;-) | 11:32 |
| nrcerna | great | 11:32 |
| nrcerna | thanks to everyone | 11:33 |
| ubuntourist | !remind 2019.12.01 Chair = ubuntourist | 11:33 |
| "2019.12.01 Chair = ubuntourist" added to message queue | 11:33 | |
| nrcerna | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:33 |
| jelkner | ACTION thinks nrcerna is an awesome chair. Just say'n ;-) | 11:33 |
| GFbot | 1+ | 11:33 |
| jelkner | okie dokie everyone, i'm heading home | 11:34 |
| nrcerna | Thanks jelkner | 11:34 |
| jelkner | thank *you*, nrcerna | 11:34 |
| jelkner | i'll see y'all next sunday | 11:34 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, i'm going to email tim from my classroom when i get there | 11:34 |
| nrcerna | Ok, i think GFbot and SITarabuta are going to discuss about what they started | 11:35 |
| jelkner | to let him know you'll follow up with him | 11:35 |
| jelkner | ACTION out | 11:35 |
| nrcerna | SITarabuta, i'm going to upload the the final home for NOVALACIRO so you can work on that maybe today or tomorrow | 11:36 |
| SITarabuta | ok | 11:36 |
| nrcerna | I'm trying to organize the information on the other sections | 11:37 |
| nrcerna | It's kind of tricky you know | 11:37 |
| SITarabuta | also, please show me a concept of how it should look on mobile screens | 11:37 |
| nrcerna | great, but I think you could help me with that | 11:38 |
| nrcerna | I mean, you can suggest how is going to look better | 11:38 |
| SITarabuta | sure | 11:38 |
| nrcerna | I'm a graphic designer but as you did with GFbot, you can suggest | 11:38 |
| nrcerna | I just need to know how are you doing with your tasks SITarabuta and GFbot | 11:39 |
| nrcerna | (this is a concern I have really often) | 11:40 |
| SITarabuta | i will update you on email later today | 11:40 |
| nrcerna | Great, SITarabuta | 11:40 |
| nrcerna | I was talking GFbot about keep me informed | 11:40 |
| nrcerna | Are you talking on emails? about the progress and stuff SITarabuta | 11:41 |
| nrcerna | ? | 11:41 |
| SITarabuta | yes, pretty much | 11:41 |
| nrcerna | If so, please cc'me | 11:41 |
| SITarabuta | ok | 11:41 |
| nrcerna | jelkner talk me every morning to see how the things are going | 11:42 |
| nrcerna | and my job is to know what are you doing, the progress and all that :) | 11:42 |
| nrcerna | GFbot, what are you going yo work this week? | 11:43 |
| GFbot | nrcerna -.- | 11:45 |
| GFbot | i told you. | 11:45 |
| nrcerna | remind me please | 11:45 |
| GFbot | god.. | 11:45 |
| GFbot | i was working | 11:45 |
| GFbot | on id cards | 11:45 |
| nrcerna | i know | 11:45 |
| nrcerna | are you don with that? | 11:45 |
| nrcerna | GFbot | 11:45 |
| GFbot | i need SITarabuta to tell me if he is done iwht | 11:46 |
| GFbot | with* | 11:46 |
| GFbot | profile pictures | 11:46 |
| SITarabuta | almost there | 11:46 |
| SITarabuta | should be done tomorrow | 11:46 |
| SITarabuta | i had to work on templates too | 11:47 |
| nrcerna | Ok and then? (this is for you GFbot) | 11:47 |
| nrcerna | GFbot | 11:48 |
| GFbot | well when he is done i can test id cards | 11:49 |
| GFbot | those apps work together. | 11:49 |
| nrcerna | Ok we need to think about timing | 11:49 |
| nrcerna | since we need to get ORA by January | 11:50 |
| nrcerna | and we are almost on December GFbot | 11:50 |
| GFbot | nrcerna yes | 11:53 |
| nrcerna | Ok | 11:53 |
| GFbot | nrcerna | 11:55 |
| GFbot | but, ora and nea need biligual? | 11:55 |
| nrcerna | yes GFbot | 11:56 |
| GFbot | ok | 11:57 |
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