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| nrcerna | hi jelkner | 09:20 |
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| nrcerna | gm jelkner | 09:22 |
| nrcerna | I have a quick question for you, since I'm about to respond to Tim's email | 09:22 |
| nrcerna | about ORA, he's requesting a "blog" section, since they want to be able to update info as well | 09:23 |
| jelkner | Good morning nrcerna | 09:25 |
| jelkner | I don't know if you saw my message, nrcerna, but I was hoping to meet with you | 09:25 |
| nrcerna | yes I saw the email | 09:26 |
| jelkner | Yes, nrcerna, ORA (and all our customers) will want to update their websites themselves | 09:26 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, first concern | 09:26 |
| jelkner | GFbot didn't show yesterday | 09:27 |
| jelkner | i had the chance to talk at length with stefan | 09:27 |
| jelkner | the three of them, lbolz, stefan, and ellis, came in | 09:27 |
| jelkner | i'm not sure whether what they did will prove useful at all | 09:27 |
| jelkner | but they are getting more familiar with Tendenci | 09:28 |
| jelkner | stefan keeps trying different approaches | 09:28 |
| jelkner | until he hits a brick wall with each one | 09:28 |
| jelkner | he tried: | 09:28 |
| jelkner | 1. rewriting Tendenci from scratch! ;-) | 09:29 |
| jelkner | 2. Starting with Tendenci as is and removing apps we don't use. | 09:29 |
| jelkner | 3. Staring with nothing and copying over Tendenci apps we do use. | 09:29 |
| jelkner | he is still playing with 3, after 1 and 2 failed | 09:29 |
| jelkner | i told him 1 was crazy, but he's young, and needs to learn for himself | 09:30 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 09:30 |
| jelkner | so i mentioned to him that he really should be helping GFbot | 09:30 |
| jelkner | he told me the problem with that is communication | 09:30 |
| jelkner | it is too hard to communicate with GFbot | 09:30 |
| jelkner | he sends and email, then waits more than a day for a response | 09:31 |
| jelkner | he is young and eager | 09:31 |
| jelkner | he wants to move *fast* | 09:31 |
| nrcerna | I know, even is harder for me, you know. | 09:31 |
| nrcerna | I see | 09:31 |
| jelkner | really? | 09:31 |
| jelkner | can't you just walk two blocks and find him? | 09:31 |
| jelkner | i don't know what we can do | 09:32 |
| jelkner | but we need to figure it out | 09:32 |
| nrcerna | Is not that easier jelkner, I mentioned German that I'm going to his house today. | 09:32 |
| nrcerna | (that was on sat) | 09:32 |
| nrcerna | I send him a message yesterday, after i saw the IRC logs | 09:33 |
| nrcerna | he login later, when you left | 09:33 |
| jelkner | the meeting was at 11 | 09:33 |
| jelkner | like always | 09:33 |
| jelkner | it is really important to be disciplined | 09:34 |
| jelkner | if you show up *whenever* | 09:34 |
| nrcerna | I know that , everyone knows to. I dont know what happened whith him. | 09:34 |
| nrcerna | I'm going to try to talk with him | 09:34 |
| jelkner | they you are not likely to be able to coordinate | 09:34 |
| jelkner | ok, i'm here all day today | 09:34 |
| jelkner | let's meet the three of us | 09:35 |
| jelkner | i want GFbot to give you and i a schedule | 09:35 |
| jelkner | and to be on irc *all the time* when he says he is at work | 09:35 |
| jelkner | then i can share that with stefan | 09:35 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 09:35 |
| jelkner | and we can try coordinating | 09:35 |
| jelkner | i think stefan needs more experience actually working with tendenci | 09:36 |
| jelkner | before trying any major refactoring | 09:36 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 09:36 |
| jelkner | so helping GFbot would be good for him | 09:36 |
| jelkner | but if GFbot isn't there to work with, it won't work | 09:36 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 09:37 |
| jelkner | btw. i continue with my slow and steady study of django and tdd | 09:37 |
| jelkner | look at this: https://gitlab.com/jelkner/tddbook4/blob/master/functional_tests.py | 09:37 |
| jelkner | take a minute to read it ;-) | 09:37 |
| nrcerna | OK jelkner | 09:38 |
| jelkner | i'll wait | 09:38 |
| nrcerna | mmmm, it shows a 404 error | 09:39 |
| nrcerna | I cant see it jelkner | 09:39 |
| jelkner | what's your gitlab user? | 09:39 |
| nrcerna | nrcerna16 | 09:39 |
| jelkner | try again | 09:40 |
| jelkner | i had it private | 09:40 |
| jelkner | just changed that | 09:40 |
| jelkner | i invited you, but that isn't needed | 09:40 |
| jelkner | it's public now | 09:40 |
| nrcerna | Ok thanks | 09:41 |
| jelkner | did you see it? | 09:43 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, let me know when you've read it | 09:45 |
| jelkner | so we can continue meeting | 09:45 |
| nrcerna | Ok jelkner | 09:45 |
| jelkner | did you get a laugh from it, nrcerna? | 09:45 |
| jelkner | i was hoping you'd get a few ;-) | 09:46 |
| nrcerna | jajaja its funny read about me | 09:46 |
| nrcerna | I loved the end jajaja jelkner | 09:48 |
| jelkner | yes, that's the goal | 09:49 |
| jelkner | ok, a few serious things to discuss from this | 09:49 |
| jelkner | 1. we need to become serious, skilled developers | 09:49 |
| jelkner | that means learning agile best practices including tdd | 09:50 |
| jelkner | i'm going through https://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/pages/book.html | 09:50 |
| jelkner | for the forth time | 09:50 |
| jelkner | it is *hard* to learn all this | 09:50 |
| jelkner | but as i mention in the readme, i may be slow, but i'm stubborn | 09:51 |
| jelkner | so i don't give up | 09:51 |
| jelkner | each time i've deviated more for the text | 09:51 |
| jelkner | i'm starting to "get it" | 09:51 |
| jelkner | and i'm working on two other side projects, my own website, and a library application | 09:51 |
| jelkner | that will let me apply what i'm learning on my own | 09:52 |
| jelkner | we need GFbot to learn this too | 09:52 |
| jelkner | we haven't used your novawebdev_scrum channel yet | 09:52 |
| jelkner | i'm not sure what you planned on using it for | 09:52 |
| jelkner | but i hope we get there | 09:52 |
| jelkner | 2. the two to-do items i put in the user story are real | 09:53 |
| jelkner | we need to get GFbot and stefan to collaborate | 09:53 |
| jelkner | if we can't do that, we aren't going anywhere | 09:53 |
| jelkner | we also should take advantage of my brother's willingness to tutor | 09:53 |
| jelkner | with zOnny out of the picture, it means you and lbolz | 09:54 |
| jelkner | i think that's good | 09:54 |
| jelkner | it gives you two to develop a collaborative relationship | 09:54 |
| jelkner | and we have an ideal application for that in sign-and-read (we need to rename it ASAP) | 09:54 |
| jelkner | since it relies equally on dev and design | 09:55 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 09:55 |
| jelkner | thoughts, nrcerna? | 09:55 |
| nrcerna | I'm trying to understand | 09:56 |
| jelkner | let me help | 09:56 |
| nrcerna | In factI do | 09:56 |
| nrcerna | You and me know that we have this struggle | 09:57 |
| jelkner | +1 | 09:57 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, any questions for me before i get back to studying? | 09:59 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, still here? | 10:01 |
| nrcerna | Well not a question, I'm going to let you know when I'm with German | 10:01 |
| nrcerna | yes | 10:01 |
| nrcerna | Im here | 10:01 |
| jelkner | i need to focus to learn this stuff | 10:01 |
| jelkner | so it's better for me not to have to keep checking | 10:02 |
| jelkner | and we plan on a time to check in? | 10:02 |
| jelkner | how about 4 pm? | 10:02 |
| jelkner | GFbot should be awake by then | 10:02 |
| nrcerna | mmm | 10:02 |
| jelkner | mmm? | 10:03 |
| nrcerna | Ok, I'm going to talk him before you and me meet him today at that time | 10:03 |
| jelkner | perfect | 10:03 |
| jelkner | i'm going to sign off | 10:03 |
| nrcerna | 4 pm our time, rigth? | 10:03 |
| jelkner | what time is it now? | 10:03 |
| jelkner | it is 10 am for me | 10:04 |
| nrcerna | 9:05 | 10:04 |
| jelkner | ok, 3 pm my time | 10:04 |
| jelkner | i can do that | 10:04 |
| nrcerna | Ok :) | 10:04 |
| jelkner | see you at 4 pm | 10:04 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off till 3 pm ES time | 10:04 |
| jelkner | oops | 10:04 |
| jelkner | 4 pm ES time (3 pm VA time) | 10:04 |
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| GFbot | @nrcerna, | 10:20 |
| GFbot | sse murio | 10:20 |
| GFbot | wsp | 10:20 |
| nrcerna | Por que?? GFbot | 10:20 |
| GFbot | no me llegan msj | 10:20 |
| GFbot | tuyos | 10:20 |
| nrcerna | Que raro | 10:20 |
| GFbot | ni los mios | 10:21 |
| nrcerna | deberÃamos de empezar a usar signal (la app que mi tio tiene) | 10:21 |
| nrcerna | es buena y la podes ver desde la pc segun me comentó | 10:21 |
| nrcerna | GFbot, | 10:21 |
| GFbot | ya se me asignaron todos los issues? | 11:00 |
| GFbot | nrcerna, | 11:00 |
| nrcerna | ACTION meeting wit replaceafill | 11:26 |
| nrcerna | ACTION meeting with replaceafill | 11:26 |
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| nrcerna | https://gitlab.com/libreorganize/libreorganize-theme/issues/8 | 13:17 |
| nrcerna | ACTION on lunch | 14:15 |
| nrcerna | ACTION back | 14:49 |
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| jelkner | Apologies for being late | 15:03 |
| jelkner | I'm doing laundry | 15:03 |
| jelkner | so nrcerna, GFbot, where are we? | 15:04 |
| nrcerna | Yes jelkner | 15:04 |
| nrcerna | GFbot Im not sure if he is back | 15:05 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, who is back? | 15:05 |
| nrcerna | I'm not with him, but we had a long meeting with replaceafill and GFbot | 15:05 |
| jelkner | And what did you conclude, nrcerna? | 15:06 |
| jelkner | is it easier to type, or talk? | 15:06 |
| jelkner | i could call if you like | 15:06 |
| nrcerna | GFbot is going to start working with me at my place | 15:06 |
| nrcerna | since as you know Eduardo work here and we have our small office here at home | 15:07 |
| nrcerna | jelkner | 15:07 |
| jelkner | Great idea | 15:07 |
| jelkner | He needs the discipline of being in a work environment | 15:07 |
| jelkner | the main thing is setting a schedule | 15:07 |
| jelkner | So that I can push Stefan to work with him | 15:08 |
| nrcerna | that's the point | 15:08 |
| nrcerna | GFbot is going to be here at 9 am | 15:08 |
| jelkner | Great! | 15:09 |
| jelkner | Can i call you on whatsapp? | 15:09 |
| jelkner | just to plan for Thursday | 15:09 |
| jelkner | since my fingers are hurting from all this typing ;-) | 15:10 |
| nrcerna | I just have a request, can we add to our budget about 200? to set up his space here? meaning his desktop (he is going to use the laptop you gave me) | 15:10 |
| nrcerna | It could be even less than 200 jelkner | 15:11 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, no answer | 15:11 |
| jelkner | you don't have your phone? | 15:12 |
| nrcerna | answer? | 15:12 |
| nrcerna | Ooohhh sworry | 15:12 |
| nrcerna | Its charging | 15:12 |
| nrcerna | hold on | 15:12 |
| nrcerna | ACTION Calling back jelkner | 15:13 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, nrcerna and GFbot, i'm signing off for the day | 15:19 |
| jelkner | hasta tomorrow | 15:19 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 15:19 |
| nrcerna | Ok jelkner | 15:19 |
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