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| nrcerna | !remind brief report about what we worked this week | 09:11 |
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| jelkner | GM, nrcerna | 09:12 |
| jelkner | !remind | 09:12 |
| nrcerna | GM jelkner | 09:12 |
| jelkner | !remind LOv2 testing sprint next Sunday? | 09:13 |
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| jelkner | nrcerna, are you good to chair today? | 09:13 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, or did you want me to do it? | 09:13 |
| nrcerna | Could you please do it just today? | 09:14 |
| jelkner | I could, nrcerna | 09:14 |
| nrcerna | Thank you jelkner | 09:15 |
| jelkner | !remind Quick list of goals for next week. | 09:15 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 09:15 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, ping | 09:51 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, are you willing to learn to be our bookkeeper? | 09:51 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, if you are, it will be my job to teach you | 09:51 |
| nrcerna | Bookkeeper? jelkner | 09:52 |
| jelkner | yes, nrcerna | 09:52 |
| jelkner | we need to become a viable business | 09:52 |
| jelkner | we need someone keeping our books | 09:52 |
| jelkner | that means recording financial transactions | 09:52 |
| jelkner | following up on invoicing and collection of funds | 09:53 |
| jelkner | tracking where we our money is going | 09:53 |
| jelkner | that's called bookkeeping | 09:53 |
| jelkner | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookkeeping | 09:53 |
| nrcerna | Aaaahhhh jelkner I wasn't sure what it means jeje that's why I asked | 09:53 |
| jelkner | anyway, think it over | 09:54 |
| jelkner | don't answer right away | 09:54 |
| jelkner | but we need a bookkeeper | 09:54 |
| jelkner | that is super clear | 09:54 |
| jelkner | our financial management is a mess | 09:55 |
| nrcerna | I could try to do it jelkner | 09:55 |
| jelkner | and if we can't get that in order as we build our marketable skills | 09:55 |
| jelkner | we can't be a real business | 09:55 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 09:55 |
| jelkner | cool | 09:56 |
| jelkner | the first step is to record where all our money goes | 09:56 |
| jelkner | including the money i send you and GFbot each month | 09:56 |
| jelkner | i should be invoiced for it | 09:56 |
| jelkner | i'm the customer in this case | 09:57 |
| nrcerna | I mean I kind of do that in our 'Santein' business (Eduardo and mine) jelkner | 09:57 |
| jelkner | yes, nrcerna | 09:57 |
| jelkner | i understand that | 09:57 |
| jelkner | that's what i've been saying all along | 09:57 |
| jelkner | you already have to do this | 09:57 |
| jelkner | so i figured it was in your interest to learn and develop your skills | 09:57 |
| nrcerna | Oh I didn't know it, that we needed to invoice you with our payments | 09:58 |
| jelkner | yes, i said that last week | 09:58 |
| jelkner | and you agreed, i thought? | 09:58 |
| nrcerna | Yes | 09:58 |
| jelkner | from here forward, no money goes in our out unless it is part of our financial records | 09:58 |
| nrcerna | I mena started to track and look for every invoice | 09:59 |
| jelkner | that means i need a monthly bill from you NOVA Web Dev that I need to pay in the amount that i have to pay | 09:59 |
| nrcerna | Mean * | 09:59 |
| jelkner | cool | 09:59 |
| nrcerna | Okay | 09:59 |
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| jelkner | Good morning everyone! | 10:58 |
| abuchholz | good morning | 10:58 |
| jelkner | nrcerna asked me to chair this week, if that's OK with y'all | 10:59 |
| nrcerna | Good morning! | 10:59 |
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| lbolz | good morning! | 10:59 |
| ubuntourist | Such optimists! ;-) | 10:59 |
| ubuntourist | Looks like Big Brother is once again late to the party. | 11:01 |
| jelkner | drats | 11:01 |
| jelkner | yes, let's start | 11:01 |
| jelkner | !remind | 11:01 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, you were 1st with Investiage Crowdin... | 11:01 |
| ubuntourist | So everyone, I sent out mail yesterday. | 11:02 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist? | 11:02 |
| esutko : abuchholz : @ubuntourist : GFbot : lbolz : +jelkner : nrcerna : @mjsir911 : wolcen : @ChanServ | 11:02 | |
| Quick list of goals for next week. (jelkner) | 11:02 | |
| ubuntourist | I noticed DjangoGirls was using Crowdin for their multi-lingual translation service. | 11:02 |
| ubuntourist | Since we want LOV2 to be multi-lingual, it would be good to check out such a service. | 11:03 |
| jelkner | GFbot, can you please ask replaceafill if he thinks this could be something we could use? | 11:03 |
| ubuntourist | I noticed they offer free service to Free Open Source Software projects. So we're a good fit. | 11:03 |
| GFbot | jelkner mmm ok | 11:03 |
| jelkner | mmm ok? is that a yes? | 11:04 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, can you help him with that? | 11:04 |
| ubuntourist | I recommend contacting them for a demo to see how it works. | 11:04 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, could you please follow up on that? | 11:04 |
| nrcerna | Yes jelkner | 11:04 |
| jelkner | since i'm not sure what mmm, ok means ;-) | 11:04 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:04 |
| jelkner | next item | 11:04 |
| jelkner | *brief* work reports | 11:05 |
| jelkner | i'll go first | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | https://crowdin.com/demo-request | 11:05 |
| nrcerna | The mmm is because it depends replaceafill time, you know that he work and is not always available jelkner | 11:05 |
| jelkner | i'm dividing my time equally between learning TDD and business accounting | 11:05 |
| jelkner | making progress on both | 11:05 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | Me | 11:06 |
| ubuntourist | The e-mail from earlier in the week summarizes my adventures at Gallaudet. | 11:06 |
| jelkner | i understand, nrcerna, but we need to try | 11:06 |
| jelkner | or if GFbot thinks he can make that call without him, fine | 11:06 |
| jelkner | whose next? | 11:07 |
| ubuntourist | The department offering us the most potential work is "reorganizing". So, we're still "on hold" | 11:07 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, thanks for following up on that! | 11:07 |
| jelkner | we'll get something from it at some point | 11:08 |
| jelkner | lbolz, what have you been working on? | 11:08 |
| ubuntourist | Tentative plans with them are for a meeting in a week or two and a separate meeting first week in March, | 11:08 |
| lbolz | i've been finalizing the document to send to dr. thompson so that she can use the asa site | 11:08 |
| nrcerna | Is because replaceafill told us that we need to try to do things without ask him a lot jelkner | 11:08 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 11:08 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, let's talk after meeting | 11:09 |
| lbolz | also preparing for tuesday to present to ATAC to get fundraising money for the django girls workshop | 11:09 |
| nrcerna | Meaning, we can try to resolve our problems | 11:09 |
| jelkner | great, lbolz | 11:09 |
| jelkner | thanks | 11:09 |
| jelkner | abuchholz, esutko, how about you? | 11:10 |
| jelkner | GFbot? | 11:10 |
| esutko | I've been familiarizing myself with the LibreOrganize V2 code base and with the Django test suite. | 11:10 |
| jelkner | hold on | 11:10 |
| jelkner | sorry | 11:10 |
| jelkner | nice, esutko | 11:11 |
| jelkner | abuchholz, | 11:11 |
| jelkner | you? | 11:11 |
| abuchholz | Been working with on Unit Tests on the LibreOrganize V2 Project should commit some more today | 11:11 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:11 |
| jelkner | i'll have something to say about that next item | 11:11 |
| ubuntourist | (BTW, congrats all on resuscitating the Sign'n'Read app.) | 11:11 |
| jelkner | That was zOnny and lbolz | 11:11 |
| jelkner | +1 on congrats | 11:12 |
| jelkner | GFbot, | 11:12 |
| jelkner | what did you do last week? | 11:12 |
| nrcerna | GFbot helped me to run it on my machine | 11:12 |
| GFbot | learn pytest or testing in general, yesterday i went with Douglas and teach me a lot | 11:12 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, LOv2? | 11:12 |
| jelkner | excellent, GFbot | 11:12 |
| GFbot | jelkner now i just need to learn about webdriver | 11:13 |
| jelkner | nrcerna? | 11:13 |
| ubuntourist | Is there a nice INSTALL.md doc in the repo? | 11:13 |
| jelkner | you're last | 11:13 |
| GFbot | but, i understand now the concept of testing. | 11:13 |
| jelkner | good! | 11:13 |
| nrcerna | We met Douglas and Stefan this week, | 11:13 |
| nrcerna | German and Stefan are going to coordinate to. Work on the apps for LOV2 | 11:14 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, *NO* new apps without first learning testing! | 11:14 |
| nrcerna | I made progress working tracking hosting invoices | 11:14 |
| nrcerna | But im not done | 11:14 |
| jelkner | ok | 11:15 |
| jelkner | sorry | 11:15 |
| nrcerna | Yes we know jelkner | 11:15 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:15 |
| nrcerna | That is wht GFbot is learning | 11:15 |
| nrcerna | That's why we met Douglas and Stefan | 11:15 |
| nrcerna | And GFbot is reading and trying hard to learn | 11:16 |
| jelkner | great | 11:16 |
| jelkner | we can share resources | 11:16 |
| jelkner | finished, nrcerna? | 11:16 |
| nrcerna | Yes | 11:16 |
| jelkner | ok, i want to finish on time | 11:17 |
| jelkner | 2 more items | 11:17 |
| jelkner | next one, i would like to propose an all hands on deck LOv2 "mini sprint" next Sunday from 9 am to 3 pm | 11:17 |
| jelkner | who could make that? | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we want Stefan there too, but he is sleeping now | 11:18 |
| jelkner | GFbot, lbolz, esutko, abuchholz could you? | 11:18 |
| esutko | I can. | 11:18 |
| lbolz | sure | 11:18 |
| jelkner | GFbot, you can, yes? | 11:18 |
| GFbot | yes | 11:18 |
| jelkner | great | 11:18 |
| jelkner | we will work together looking at the current code base for LOv2 | 11:19 |
| abuchholz | I should be able to make it. | 11:19 |
| jelkner | and talk about adding full test coverage to it | 11:19 |
| jelkner | great, abuchholz | 11:19 |
| GFbot | i can start working on LOv2 ? jelkner | 11:19 |
| jelkner | GFbot, *definitely* | 11:20 |
| GFbot | yes or not? | 11:20 |
| GFbot | :) | 11:20 |
| jelkner | if by working on my mean adding tests | 11:20 |
| jelkner | the more we can do before next sunday the better | 11:20 |
| GFbot | for sure. | 11:20 |
| jelkner | so we will have something to look at to start | 11:20 |
| GFbot | cool | 11:20 |
| jelkner | the last item is work for next week | 11:21 |
| jelkner | but i think we all know what we're doing, yes? | 11:21 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 11:21 |
| jelkner | getting ready for next sunday if you are a developer | 11:21 |
| ubuntourist | Also a TESTING.md should be written by folks writing tests, so that new users of the repo can run tests themselves. | 11:21 |
| jelkner | and trying to get our business financing in order otherwise | 11:21 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:21 |
| jelkner | great idea, ubuntourist | 11:21 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, any chance you could join us next sunday? | 11:22 |
| ubuntourist | (My limited understanding there is it's probably going to be a very small doc. Something like "Type 'run tests'. ;-) ) | 11:22 |
| abuchholz | yeah, I can add the TESTING.md | 11:22 |
| ubuntourist | Remotely, yes. F2F unlikely. | 11:22 |
| jelkner | in Django its python manage.py test | 11:22 |
| jelkner | ok | 11:23 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, can you chair next week? | 11:23 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Yeah, that's kind of what I was guessing it might be. | 11:23 |
| nrcerna | Yes jelkner | 11:23 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:23 |
| GFbot | jelkner so i plan to work on LOv2 with the new app that i talked with Stefan, obviously with the test running as well. | 11:23 |
| jelkner | any last items? | 11:23 |
| jelkner | great GFbot | 11:23 |
| ubuntourist | So, maybe not much need. But I frequently see README.md, INSTALL.md, LICENSE.md, and TESTING.md in repos. | 11:24 |
| esutko | We definitely could use an INSTALL.md | 11:24 |
| jelkner | well, ubuntourist, we need selenium, so thanks to you we've been using pipenv to get that all in place | 11:24 |
| GFbot | jelkner btw, i was learning and using pyenv this last week. | 11:25 |
| jelkner | ok, unless anyone has a pressing item | 11:25 |
| jelkner | let's call it til next sunday | 11:25 |
| GFbot | useful tool. | 11:25 |
| jelkner | +1 GFbot | 11:25 |
| ubuntourist | (There's an issue on the DjangoGirls repo encouraging a switch to pipenv as well.) | 11:26 |
| GFbot | ACTION is done | 11:26 |
| jelkner | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:26 |
| jelkner | talk to you next thursday if not before everyone | 11:27 |
| jelkner | GFbot, nrcerna have a minute for a quick summary of what came up during the meeting? | 11:27 |
| GFbot | yes? | 11:27 |
| nrcerna | Yes | 11:27 |
| jelkner | GFbot, what replacefill says is really important | 11:28 |
| jelkner | GFbot, we need to work hard to transition you into him ;-) | 11:28 |
| jelkner | or him into you? | 11:28 |
| ubuntourist | GFbot, our crazy man to the north, Paul "Hurricane" Flint, likes pyenv too. But, as we move further and further from the dead Python 2, I expect it will not be much use for us. | 11:28 |
| jelkner | anyway, you need to be the one we go to to make decision on our tech and how we do things | 11:28 |
| GFbot | jelkner i know. | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i'll stop asking you, GFbot and nrcerna, to check with him | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i'll just ask you to do things | 11:29 |
| GFbot | ubuntourist 1 | 11:29 |
| GFbot | 1+* | 11:29 |
| jelkner | you decide if and when you need his advice | 11:29 |
| jelkner | GFbot, i have a lot of resources i've been using | 11:29 |
| jelkner | including pdf versions of books | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i could send you if needed | 11:30 |
| GFbot | jelkner he told me to reach him only for technical things. | 11:30 |
| GFbot | jelkner sure | 11:30 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 11:30 |
| GFbot | do it | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i'm going to do the bowling game with me students on tuesday | 11:30 |
| jelkner | https://gitlab.com/jelkner/csc200/-/tree/master/TDD | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i worked on it yesterday at HacDC | 11:30 |
| GFbot | it has testing :) | 11:31 |
| jelkner | so lbolz and abuchholz will have a chance to do it in class this week | 11:31 |
| jelkner | it is all about testing | 11:31 |
| jelkner | testing *first*, GFbot | 11:31 |
| GFbot | ACTION understands now :) | 11:31 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, i'm signing off to grade and lesson plan | 11:32 |
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| jelkner | nrcerna, i'll call you tomorrow at 9:35 am as usual | 11:33 |
| GFbot | jelkner go ahead | 11:33 |
| GFbot | jelkner send me your pdfs. | 11:33 |
| GFbot | thanks! | 11:33 |
| jelkner | will do, GFbot | 11:33 |
| nrcerna | Okay jelkner | 11:33 |
| jelkner | hasta pronto | 11:33 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:33 |
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