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| nrcerna | !remind brief report about progress - LO v.02 (Stefan) & Business Tracker (German) | 09:31 |
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| "brief report about progress - LO v.02 (Stefan) & Business Tracker (German)" added to message queue | 09:31 | |
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| ubuntourist | ACTION has been getting his "surl" on... Practice, practice, practice. | 09:46 |
| jelkner | gm, nrcerna and ubuntourist | 09:59 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, what are you doing up so early on a sunday? | 09:59 |
| ubuntourist | Snarling. :-/ | 09:59 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, I'm often "vertical" early, but "up" is debatable. ;-) | 10:00 |
| nrcerna | GM | 10:02 |
| ubuntourist | This morning's rant: The Qt integration with Python just seems hopelessly broken in so many apps now. | 10:02 |
| jelkner | LoL, ubuntourist | 10:03 |
| ubuntourist | I keep expecting it to resolve, but it's been several months. There's a component called "shiboken" which I now refer to as "shibroken" | 10:03 |
| jelkner | good to see you vertical in any case | 10:04 |
| ubuntourist | because it's always "shi-broken" these days. | 10:04 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, should we ask walter if he has any advice about our coop finding funding to work on educational projects? | 10:05 |
| jelkner | after the big win in nevada last night | 10:06 |
| jelkner | a new world maybe, just maybe possible ;-) | 10:06 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, No harm in asking, as long as it's clear that we're not pestering. | 10:06 |
| jelkner | oh, i am not asking him for money, just advice | 10:07 |
| jelkner | hold on, stefan just arrived | 10:07 |
| ubuntourist | We need to find some law students... | 10:08 |
| ubuntourist | Google's updating its Terms of Service - https://policies.google.com/terms/update | 10:10 |
| ubuntourist | with very friendly ways of trying to convince me that poison is, in fact, medicine. | 10:11 |
| ubuntourist | (freedom is slavery, war is peace, ignorance is strength, google is benevolent, etc.) | 10:12 |
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| SITarabuta | Morning! | 10:20 |
| ubuntourist | Hail SITarabuta. I've been ranting about Python Qt integration ("shiboken" is really "shi-broken") and Google's updating terms of "service" | 10:22 |
| SITarabuta | I swear I have clicked "Yes, I agree" 10 times, yet it still bothers me | 10:23 |
| ubuntourist | (freedom is slavery, war is peace, ignorance is strength, google is benevolent, etc.) | 10:25 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION will BRB | 10:26 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is back | 10:37 |
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| nrcerna | Good morning everyone | 11:00 |
| ubuntourist | "Time keeps on tickin', tickin', tickin'... into the future. Tick-tock" - Steve Miller Band. | 11:01 |
| ubuntourist | 11:01 | |
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| ubuntourist | ACTION is waiting for Big_Brother to wake. ;-) | 11:01 |
| jelkner | good morning, all | 11:01 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 11:01 |
| nrcerna | I think this meeting is going to be really brief | 11:01 |
| nrcerna | Since we all have work to do. | 11:02 |
| esutko : GFbot : SITarabuta : @ubuntourist : nrcerna : +jelkner : @ChanServ : wolcen : @mjsir911 | 11:02 | |
| Schedule an invoice session for nrcerna and jelkner to invoice VA DOE and others (jelkner) | 11:02 | |
| brief report about progress - LO v.02 (Stefan) & Business Tracker (German) (nrcerna) | 11:02 | |
| nrcerna | And we have just 2 items at our agenda | 11:02 |
| nrcerna | Can we start? | 11:03 |
| jelkner | please! | 11:03 |
| jelkner | let's move | 11:03 |
| ubuntourist | Ya. | 11:03 |
| jelkner | we have so much to do | 11:03 |
| nrcerna | First item :Schedule an invoice session for nrcerna and jelkner to invoice VA DOE and others | 11:03 |
| nrcerna | You did this jelkner | 11:03 |
| jelkner | can you and me work on this after? | 11:03 |
| jelkner | yes, nrcerna | 11:03 |
| nrcerna | Ok | 11:03 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:03 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:03 |
| nrcerna | Second one :"brief report about progress - LO v.02 (Stefan) & Business Tracker (German)" | 11:04 |
| nrcerna | SITarabuta: could you please give us a brief report? | 11:04 |
| jelkner | he's typing | 11:04 |
| nrcerna | We need an update | 11:04 |
| nrcerna | Ok jelkner | 11:05 |
| jelkner | a lot | 11:05 |
| SITarabuta | LO now has pages (aka boxes). We have 100% test coverage. We are now working on getting email for the account reset feature. | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | The #python channel recommends https://paste.pound-python.org/ for your pastebin needs | 11:05 |
| SITarabuta | Automated pipeline is also setup on GitLab | 11:05 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist, can you help me with email today? | 11:05 |
| SITarabuta | We need to clean stuff up. | 11:05 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, can you? | 11:06 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, I can attempt... | 11:06 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:06 |
| SITarabuta | That is a good start | 11:06 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 11:06 |
| nrcerna | Than you SITarabuta | 11:06 |
| nrcerna | And now, GFbot could you please give us an update about our business tracker app? | 11:07 |
| jelkner | GFbot, i'm hoping you will work with nrcerna and me after | 11:07 |
| jelkner | since we are the crew that needs to focus on billing | 11:08 |
| GFbot | ok | 11:08 |
| nrcerna | What about the update GFbot? | 11:09 |
| GFbot | well, i've been working on the business tracker App this week | 11:09 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, GFbot let's report on this next week | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so we can get moving | 11:10 |
| nrcerna | Ok | 11:10 |
| jelkner | the three of us will talk after | 11:10 |
| nrcerna | Has anyone something to add or share? | 11:10 |
| ubuntourist | I had 2 | 11:11 |
| nrcerna | Shoot ubuntourist | 11:11 |
| ubuntourist | 1. Dogfooding: If we have any scheduling capabilities now, we should use that for cancellations of meetings. | 11:11 |
| ubuntourist | Last week, I either missed the memo or forgot and showed up on IRC... A calendar would have been a nice thing to check. | 11:12 |
| jelkner | that's a great suggestion, ubuntourist | 11:12 |
| jelkner | it means implementing events | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we don't have that yet | 11:12 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION is on it | 11:12 |
| ubuntourist | 2. Stefan and I talked after I posted the agenda item, but I inquired about | 11:12 |
| ubuntourist | how best to handle merge requests etc. Fork? Branch? Work on the same master? | 11:13 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta's feeling was "branch". | 11:13 |
| SITarabuta | Well it depends. | 11:14 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, you two please figure that out | 11:14 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, and i need to start billing | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | I am going to copy here a long text without Pastebin | 11:14 |
| jelkner | or we have no income | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | everyone needs to read it | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | Well there are 2 ways to deal with this as far as | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | I know: | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | "I am a developer of the project and I just want to | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | add my work in an organized manner" | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | A new branch is created on the LOV2 repo. One | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | and only one issue is fixed on the branch, and then | 11:14 |
| jelkner | so let's get to work | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | a merge request is created. If a solution for another | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | issue is found, another branch is created and a new | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | pull request is also made, and so on and so forth. | 11:14 |
| SITarabuta | "I am not a developer of the project, but I would like | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | to contribute with fixes" | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | A fork of the project is made. The master of the fork | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | should be kept up to date with the master of the | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | original repo and issues are fixed in a new branch of | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | the fork (just like you would on the original repo). Then, | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | it should be possible for a cross-repos merge request to | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | be made between branches. Something along the lines | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | of "I have this issue fixed on my fork in branch 5. I want | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | to merge this specific branch to the master of the original | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | repo. Can you guys approve my request?" | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | Now it is your choice on which category you fall into. | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | Stefan | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | my bad, https://pastebin.com/32vdMua5 | 11:15 |
| ubuntourist | I would have elaborated, but SITarabuta did a better job of that. | 11:15 |
| jelkner | so my basic approach to these questions is | 11:16 |
| jelkner | ask folks we know and trust who have experience | 11:16 |
| jelkner | aelkenr, replaceafill | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we should ask them both | 11:17 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, says he's got this | 11:17 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, work with him to try the process | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and teach the rest of us | 11:17 |
| SITarabuta | create a branch, fix the issues, merge request, rinse and repeat | 11:17 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:18 |
| SITarabuta | if you don't like making branches on the main repo, make them on a fork | 11:18 |
| SITarabuta | that's about it | 11:18 |
| ubuntourist | OK. Well those two items were all I had. | 11:18 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:18 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, do you want to make any brief mention of conversation with Karen over pizza? Or too soon? | 11:19 |
| jelkner | too soon | 11:19 |
| jelkner | we have work to do | 11:19 |
| ubuntourist | OK. | 11:19 |
| jelkner | but you and i will follow up later on that | 11:19 |
| jelkner | once we can invoice people | 11:19 |
| jelkner | if we can't bill | 11:19 |
| jelkner | we starve anyway | 11:19 |
| jelkner | so all else is mute | 11:20 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:20 |
| nrcerna | So, are we done? | 11:20 |
| ubuntourist | moot. But I suppose mute works too. ;-) | 11:20 |
| jelkner | LoL | 11:20 |
| jelkner | moot | 11:20 |
| SITarabuta | haha | 11:20 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 11:21 |
| nrcerna | Ok since we are done. | 11:21 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is simultaneously well done and rare. ;-) | 11:21 |
| nrcerna | See you all next week! Thank you. | 11:21 |
| jelkner | ACTION waits for nrcerna to drop the... | 11:22 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, I'm disappearing for a few minutes. Back shortly. | 11:22 |
| SITarabuta | ok, ubuntourist | 11:22 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION will BRB | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | Its seem like my action command doesn't work :/ jelkner | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | Could you please? jelkner | 11:23 |
| jelkner | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:24 |
| nrcerna | Thank you | 11:24 |
| nrcerna | So jelkner, what do you want to work on? | 11:25 |
| jelkner | just tried to call you, nrcerna | 11:27 |
| jelkner | you didn't answer | 11:27 |
| nrcerna | I didnt received a call | 11:27 |
| jelkner | really | 11:27 |
| nrcerna | Yes | 11:27 |
| jelkner | let me try again | 11:27 |
| nrcerna | Ok | 11:27 |
| GFbot | jelkner, you can call me later if you want to | 11:29 |
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| ubuntourist | ACTION is back | 11:35 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, namecheap stuff, right? | 11:36 |
| SITarabuta | yes | 11:36 |
| SITarabuta | i got an account | 11:36 |
| SITarabuta | because jeff added me as a manager | 11:36 |
| SITarabuta | but right now, we are trying to move everything from domaindiscover.com | 11:36 |
| SITarabuta | aka tierra.net | 11:36 |
| ubuntourist | Let me crack open my password store... | 11:37 |
| SITarabuta | alright | 11:37 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, So. Logged in on Namecheap now, and beginning to poke around... | 11:39 |
| SITarabuta | great, ubuntourist i have manager acccess (highest) to novawebdevelopment.net | 11:40 |
| SITarabuta | i will need .com and .org as well soon | 11:41 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, I didn't even remember we still had a .net. When I login as me I only see .org. But I can also login as Edzon where I may see more. | 11:42 |
| SITarabuta | oh, yeah. Edzon's account is the main one with everything | 11:42 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, switched... | 11:43 |
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| SITarabuta | i got dced | 11:47 |
| SITarabuta | thanks ubuntourist, I got them | 11:51 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, what next? Or are you good for now? | 11:52 |
| SITarabuta | i should be good for now | 11:52 |
| ubuntourist | OK. | 11:52 |
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| SITarabuta | uh this internet. | 12:09 |
| SITarabuta | anyway | 12:09 |
| SITarabuta | novawebcoop.org | 12:09 |
| SITarabuta | has been closed | 12:10 |
| SITarabuta | but the server that was hosting it | 12:10 |
| SITarabuta | is still up | 12:10 |
| SITarabuta | and we need to get rid of that so we don't waste money. | 12:10 |
| SITarabuta | is that on linode ubuntourist | 12:10 |
| SITarabuta | ? | 12:10 |
| jelkner | nrcerna16, GFbot got a minute? | 12:16 |
| GFbot | ¿Yes? | 12:16 |
| jelkner | GFbot, where is nrcerna16? | 12:19 |
| jelkner | I have some really good news | 12:19 |
| jelkner | GFbot, is nrcerna16 around? | 12:20 |
| GFbot | jelkner, yes wait | 12:21 |
| SITarabuta | GFbot, I sent you an email. I need hosting information. | 12:21 |
| jelkner | nrcerna16, are you here? | 12:21 |
| nrcerna16 | yes jelkner | 12:21 |
| jelkner | ah there you are | 12:22 |
| GFbot | well, i just saw your email | 12:22 |
| GFbot | SITarabuta, | 12:22 |
| jelkner | i have some good news, nrcerna16 | 12:22 |
| SITarabuta | alright GFbot | 12:22 |
| GFbot | i have the hostings but, not the credentials hosting | 12:22 |
| jelkner | esutko wants to help with the business workflow problem | 12:22 |
| jelkner | so we'll be a team of 4 | 12:22 |
| SITarabuta | what do you mean GFbot? like you have info about them, but you cannot modify them right? | 12:22 |
| GFbot | right SITarabuta | 12:23 |
| SITarabuta | ok, who should i talk to? | 12:23 |
| GFbot | to jelkner | 12:23 |
| SITarabuta | ok | 12:23 |
| GFbot | he used to have nova domains | 12:23 |
| GFbot | on tierra.net | 12:23 |
| GFbot | jelkner, what will esutko do? | 12:24 |
| nrcerna16 | +1 | 12:24 |
| nrcerna16 | jelkner? | 12:25 |
| jelkner | GFbot, work with you to develop our application | 12:26 |
| GFbot | ok | 12:26 |
| jelkner | he wants to call it Todo++ | 12:26 |
| jelkner | ToDo++ | 12:26 |
| nrcerna16 | ToDo++? jelkner | 12:27 |
| esutko | ToDo++ will be the Django app for handling invoices and buissness stuff. | 12:29 |
| GFbot | but, why call it ToDo++? | 12:29 |
| nrcerna16 | I know, I just want a reason for the name esutko | 12:29 |
| esutko | Hopefully the application will support a stream of updates on various tasks such as invoices, kind of like a todo list. | 12:30 |
| GFbot | mm ok | 12:30 |
| esutko | That way it will be easy to use. | 12:31 |
| GFbot | well, we need to vote for that jelkner | 12:31 |
| nrcerna16 | I think we need to vote jelkner, about the naming. | 12:31 |
| jelkner | fine with me | 12:31 |
| nrcerna16 | your idea is great esutko | 12:31 |
| jelkner | i don't care what y'all call it | 12:32 |
| jelkner | since its for internal use | 12:32 |
| jelkner | so i felt that whatever the developers wanted to call it is fine with me | 12:32 |
| jelkner | but so can the three of you decide? | 12:33 |
| jelkner | since you care and i don't, i don't want to add complexity to the process | 12:33 |
| jelkner | what matters to me, as the customer | 12:33 |
| jelkner | is the process | 12:33 |
| jelkner | agile, customer driven | 12:33 |
| jelkner | with me as the customer ;-) | 12:33 |
| jelkner | i want to see a list of hosting customers together with the dates for their renewals | 12:34 |
| jelkner | that's the story i keep repeating | 12:34 |
| jelkner | since if we can't bill, we are dead | 12:34 |
| jelkner | pure and simple | 12:34 |
| nrcerna16 | ok jelkner | 12:35 |
| jelkner | so the three of you can vote | 12:35 |
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| GFbot | ok go ahead call it toDo++ if you want it's ok | 12:35 |
| nrcerna16 | +1 | 12:36 |
| nrcerna16 | I set up this with GFbot : | 12:37 |
| nrcerna16 | jelkner, esutko plase see this: https://imgur.com/a/MI4hsZ8 | 12:40 |
| nrcerna16 | and this: https://imgur.com/a/3xtu1nE | 12:41 |
| nrcerna16 | jelkner, esutko. | 12:41 |
| nrcerna16 | tha's what we planned | 12:42 |
| esutko | That seems to be a good layout. | 12:42 |
| GFbot | esutko, what's your idea about the app | 12:49 |
| GFbot | ? | 12:49 |
| esutko | I want to start with the database. | 12:49 |
| GFbot | and then? | 12:50 |
| esutko | Logic, then front end. | 12:50 |
| jelkner | nrcerna16, i found it | 12:56 |
| jelkner | can i call you again? then i have to do some grading | 12:56 |
| jelkner | so i can keep my day job ;-) | 12:56 |
| jelkner | nrcerna16, i tried to call, no answer | 12:57 |
| nrcerna16 | sorry I was talking with GFbot | 12:57 |
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| SITarabuta | GFbot, I restarted novawebdevams on linode because Jeff and I didn't know what website it was for. It is back up, but Apache now says "Service Unavailable" | 13:48 |
| SITarabuta | do you know what could be going on? | 13:48 |
| GFbot | SITarabuta, nova uses gunicorn | 14:01 |
| SITarabuta | OHHHHH | 14:02 |
| SITarabuta | ok | 14:02 |
| SITarabuta | i try starting it, but it keeps giving me this vague error | 14:08 |
| SITarabuta | Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix> | 14:08 |
| SITarabuta | Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>] | 14:08 |
| SITarabuta | Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding | 14:08 |
| SITarabuta | ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'encodings' | 14:08 |
| SITarabuta | GFbot | 14:08 |
| SITarabuta | maybe i use the wrong venv? | 14:09 |
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| jelkner | nrcerna16, ping | 14:29 |
| SITarabuta | GFbot, i am stuck :-(. what virtual environment should i use? there are 10 with the same name | 14:29 |
| jelkner | nrcerna16, r u here? | 14:29 |
| jelkner | i forgot to ask you something | 14:29 |
| jelkner | would you be available for hire to turn a png into a nice svg? | 14:29 |
| jelkner | ACTION has to remember to ask nrcerna16 about this soon, since she doesn't seem to be here now... | 14:34 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 14:34 |
| SITarabuta | GFbot, if you could get that up, it will be great. I have to go - I've migrated some stuff from tierra.net to namecheao | 14:42 |
| SITarabuta | namecheap* | 14:42 |
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