| jelkner | zOnny, i'm learning to use Postgres! ;-) | 00:57 |
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| zOnny | jelkner: great! | 00:58 |
| jelkner | zOnny, your database class starts tomorrow, yes? | 00:58 |
| jelkner | zOnny, are you in CS 2203? | 00:59 |
| zOnny | ACTION is checking | 00:59 |
| jelkner | that's Databases 1 | 01:00 |
| zOnny | jelkner: right | 01:00 |
| jelkner | cool | 01:01 |
| jelkner | let's compare notes | 01:01 |
| jelkner | btw, zOnny, i just created a new git repo | 01:01 |
| jelkner | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/postgres-mail-scripts | 01:01 |
| jelkner | i figured out how to create a postgres user for myself, and configure access to the database i needed to manage aliases for our mailing lists | 01:02 |
| jelkner | i'm going to sleep now | 01:02 |
| jelkner | but i'll work on that more tomorrow | 01:02 |
| jelkner | *after* i start my classwork for my Marketing class! ;-) | 01:03 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 01:03 |
| jelkner | talk to you tomorrow | 01:03 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the night | 01:03 |
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| abuchholz | !remind | 13:46 |
| jelkner | abuchholz, i can't login to our website | 14:03 |
| jelkner | oh yeah, we lost our accounts | 14:04 |
| abuchholz | yeah in the database disaster of 2020 ;) | 14:05 |
| abuchholz | jelkner you have access | 14:06 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 14:23 |
| jelkner | !remind Brief update on business plan | 14:25 |
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| ubuntourist | !helo | 14:40 |
| ubuntourist | !help | 14:40 |
| LittleBrother | Available commands: !event, !help, !ping, !remind, !time | 14:40 |
| ubuntourist | !help event | 14:40 |
| LittleBrother | Create event on novawebdevelopment.org | 14:40 |
| ubuntourist | !remind | 14:41 |
| ubuntourist | !event Thursday Jam, Weekly Thursday IRC gathering, 2020-04-09 12:00, 2020-04-09 12:30, URC, infinity | 14:43 |
| The event "Thursday Jam" has been created. | 14:43 | |
| ubuntourist | abuchholz, did you actually check-in? That was QUICK. Or are you auto-checking-in to events? | 14:45 |
| abuchholz | I actually checked in | 14:45 |
| abuchholz | We have some CSS issues probably something we should ask Edzon or German to look at | 14:45 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind Make wiki pages hierarchical again to reduce TOC menu. | 15:24 |
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| ubuntourist | Midst compile. Be right there... | 15:59 |
| lbolz : SameenA : SITarabuta : CMoran : nrcerna : abuchholz : @ubuntourist : +jelkner : @mjsir911 : @ubuntourist[m] : wolcen : @ChanServ | 16:00 | |
| Brief update on business plan (jelkner) | 16:00 | |
| Make wiki pages hierarchical again to reduce TOC menu. (ubuntourist) | 16:00 | |
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| ubuntourist | Made it. | 16:01 |
| nrcerna | Hello everyone! | 16:01 |
| SITarabuta | Morning! | 16:01 |
| lbolz | hello! | 16:01 |
| jelkner | Top of the day to ya! | 16:01 |
| ubuntourist | Hey-ho, | 16:01 |
| nrcerna | Well I think the first two items are realted | 16:02 |
| jelkner | and the last, nrcerna | 16:02 |
| jelkner | we should talk about them all at once | 16:02 |
| nrcerna | Can you talk about the wiki? abuchholz, SITarabuta | 16:02 |
| nrcerna | yes jelkner | 16:02 |
| abuchholz | https://novawebdevelopment.org/wikis/home/ its live | 16:03 |
| SITarabuta | Alright | 16:03 |
| jelkner | Yippee! | 16:03 |
| SITarabuta | And, because jelkner requested this loudly | 16:03 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 16:03 |
| SITarabuta | https://novawebdevelopment.org/wikis/setting-up-your-nwd-mail/ | 16:03 |
| SITarabuta | these are instructions on setting up your email | 16:03 |
| abuchholz | It is easily available on the home page under "Important Links" | 16:04 |
| SITarabuta | I mean it just works | 16:05 |
| SITarabuta | Try it out | 16:05 |
| abuchholz | That's essentially it for now | 16:05 |
| jelkner | +! | 16:05 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:06 |
| jelkner | let's use it | 16:06 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 16:06 |
| SITarabuta | It's WYSIWYG, so enjoy | 16:06 |
| SITarabuta | *mostly* | 16:06 |
| ubuntourist | Could it become heirarchical again? Right now all the nested stuff has flattened out in the ToC. | 16:06 |
| jelkner | we should talk about ubuntourist's request | 16:06 |
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| SITarabuta | Yes. We should. I am trying to think of a nice way of doing it. It ain't easy though | 16:07 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, we talked yesterday about having the view according to most recently modified | 16:07 |
| SITarabuta | So it will take a bit of time | 16:07 |
| jelkner | i think that would actually be the most collaboratively useful view | 16:07 |
| jelkner | since it would encourage us to look at "what's new" | 16:07 |
| ubuntourist | (I see Alan's this, Alan's that, Alan, Alan... Alan, ad nauseum, and then all the other pages.) | 16:08 |
| jelkner | yes, ubuntourist | 16:08 |
| jelkner | that's because SITarabuta hasn't made the change yet | 16:08 |
| jelkner | i need to file an issue first | 16:08 |
| ubuntourist | Ah. OK. Move on then. | 16:08 |
| jelkner | then it would be temporal, not lexigraphical order | 16:09 |
| SITarabuta | Ok, let's move on.. | 16:09 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, abuchholz we will need this on the NOVALCIRO site as well | 16:09 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:09 |
| ubuntourist | Blogs are temporal. Wikis I'm not so sure about. | 16:10 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, let's talk later | 16:10 |
| nrcerna | Ok next item: Changing the way LibreOrganize is structured (particularly the 2 repos) (SITarabuta) | 16:10 |
| SITarabuta | Oh boy ok so | 16:10 |
| SITarabuta | Uh I don't know about you, but the way we are doing the "setup" is kind of bad | 16:11 |
| SITarabuta | if you want to run libreorganize you need to also get custom designs | 16:11 |
| SITarabuta | they are kind of dependent on each other | 16:11 |
| SITarabuta | and custom designs is private | 16:11 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, I noticed. ;-) | 16:11 |
| SITarabuta | so if someone clones libreorganize, good luck running it | 16:11 |
| SITarabuta | yeah | 16:11 |
| SITarabuta | so my plan is to move the base template into LibreOrganize | 16:11 |
| SITarabuta | and Change the Custom Designs to a "Theme" | 16:11 |
| ubuntourist | +1 | 16:12 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | which also has 2/3 .py files with theme settings | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | now this is a transition | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | and because NWD and NOVALACIRO | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | already run | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | it is not an easy git pull | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | so it will take around 1 week maybe more | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | those with instances on your own machine, be prepared to work with broken stuff | 16:13 |
| jelkner | better now than later | 16:13 |
| SITarabuta | yes | 16:13 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, who will need to pull during the week? I can certainly hold off. | 16:13 |
| SITarabuta | Well, it is best to wait a bit | 16:13 |
| SITarabuta | But I will try to work in a different branch | 16:13 |
| SITarabuta | to not disrupt | 16:13 |
| SITarabuta | so you should be fine | 16:14 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, in fact, what I'll probably do is "rm -rf" followed by "git clone" ;-) | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | kind of | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | yes | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | that would be the best ubuntourist | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | this is about it | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 16:14 |
| ubuntourist | (Speaking of "rm -rf" Jitsi is purged and being rebuilt from the ashes.) | 16:15 |
| SITarabuta | *fingers crossed* we get that working so i can share my screen with Jeff | 16:15 |
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| SITarabuta | because he doesn't want to install discord ;) | 16:15 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:15 |
| abuchholz | lol | 16:16 |
| jelkner | software freedom! | 16:16 |
| ubuntourist | democracy! | 16:16 |
| ubuntourist | ;-) | 16:16 |
| jelkner | peace, love, justice! | 16:16 |
| SITarabuta | Liberte! | 16:17 |
| SITarabuta | ok | 16:17 |
| SITarabuta | what are we doing | 16:17 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, you're driving, right? | 16:17 |
| nrcerna | yes, | 16:17 |
| nrcerna | next : Brief update on business plan (jelkner) | 16:17 |
| jelkner | ok, we need to be ready to market our business at the beginning of june | 16:18 |
| jelkner | we'll need to keep up the wonderful progress we have been making for that to be possible | 16:18 |
| jelkner | specifically we need to: | 16:18 |
| jelkner | 1. use our new wiki together to find bugs and refine it | 16:18 |
| jelkner | 2. get it running on novalaciro so they can use it to share info with members | 16:19 |
| jelkner | then it's time to setup customer #3 | 16:19 |
| jelkner | our revolution arlington | 16:19 |
| SITarabuta | I am excited to see the pile of issues on Sunday | 16:19 |
| SITarabuta | ;) | 16:19 |
| jelkner | i'll reach out to the steering committe today | 16:19 |
| jelkner | and setup a meeting with them | 16:19 |
| jelkner | i'll report back on that on sunday | 16:20 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:20 |
| nrcerna | Thanks jelkner | 16:20 |
| nrcerna | anyone wants to share anything? | 16:21 |
| ubuntourist | Question for abuchholz: How "standardized" is the Wiki stuff? Specifically: | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | We do have [[ ]] | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | At least that | 16:21 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 16:21 |
| ubuntourist | If I have markdown files, mediawiki files, etc, and I have `pandoc` how easy is it to convert and import old content into the new wiki? | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | yeah... not really. :( | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | markdown | 16:23 |
| SITarabuta | we do support that | 16:23 |
| SITarabuta | mediawiki files, god, they need to be uploaded via the CKEditor | 16:23 |
| SITarabuta | and I wish I knew what pandoc is | 16:23 |
| ubuntourist | Markdown was my primary concern. | 16:23 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, it's a swiss army knife written in haskel for converting among formats | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | We support that, but again, it is basically a Code Snippet inside CKEditor | 16:24 |
| ubuntourist | pandoc is a command-line tool for converting one form of markup to another. think the prefix "pan-" | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | Oh I see | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | Well, the wiki is HTML | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | basically | 16:24 |
| ubuntourist | I can feed pandoc a markdown or mediawiki file and ask it to produce an html file, but I want to avoid unnecessary "clutter" | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | so if you can get it in HTML, then you would have it in the native format | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | You can keep Markdown if you wish | 16:25 |
| jelkner | so we are getting lost in the weeds here | 16:26 |
| jelkner | an important discussion | 16:26 |
| jelkner | but an after meeting deep dive | 16:26 |
| ubuntourist | in those files. So, if I can hone close to what our wiki expects -- e.g. avoiding <div><div><div><span><span><span></span></span></span></div></div></div> | 16:26 |
| ubuntourist | when <div></div> will do. | 16:26 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, can we close the meeting? | 16:27 |
| nrcerna | yes jelkner | 16:27 |
| nrcerna | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 16:27 |
| jelkner | thanks nrcerna! | 16:27 |
| jelkner | see y'all sunday | 16:27 |
| nrcerna | np :) | 16:27 |
| nrcerna | See you! | 16:27 |
| SITarabuta | See you | 16:27 |
| ubuntourist | OK. So it's now "later". Wikipedia is not a chronologically organized system, nor can I think of any useful wiki that is. | 16:29 |
| ubuntourist | (Well, to be honest, there is a SMALL portion of Wikipedia that is chronological, but by and large, that's not how it's used.) | 16:30 |
| ubuntourist | Wiki != Blog. | 16:30 |
| abuchholz | ubuntourist we understand | 16:30 |
| abuchholz | give us a little bit of time we will reorganize some things. If you file an issue that is the greatest help to us | 16:31 |
| SITarabuta | Well, this is a fight between you and jelkner | 16:31 |
| SITarabuta | ;) | 16:31 |
| SITarabuta | jelkner would love if you could join Discord Voice #1 | 16:31 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist | 16:31 |
| ubuntourist | (abuchholz, I was responding to jelkner's comment) | 16:32 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, switching... | 16:32 |
| abuchholz | great | 16:32 |
| jelkner | !remind Talk about signing in on website | 17:30 |
| "Talk about signing in on website" added to message queue | 17:30 | |
| jelkner | !remind | 17:30 |
| nrcerna | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jEvNaSUvjQMeB1gaxOGnaFnhnEZtnQ1KClQAxna_1D8/edit?usp=sharing | 17:33 |
| nrcerna | Can you see this | 19:00 |
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| ubuntourist | Jitsi Testing time... Anyone available? | 20:28 |
| ubuntourist | ping jelkner nrcerna GFbot mjsir911 | 20:29 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, pong | 20:48 |
| ubuntourist | Try the test again. Same address as before (also in e-mail again.) | 20:48 |
| mjsir911 | ubuntourist: does <kevin.cole@gallaudet.edu> still work? I need a few recommendations for a new job & this is the most relevent email (for the gallaudet work I did) | 20:53 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, I think so. | 20:53 |
| ubuntourist | But can you try the Jitsi test? | 20:54 |
| mjsir911 | alright, I'll send you an email first | 20:54 |
| mjsir911 | will do | 20:54 |
| mjsir911 | ubuntourist: what's the link? /Success? | 20:54 |
| ubuntourist | Thanks. Testing but it's not scaling. Was able to get one-on-one with jelkner | 20:55 |
| mjsir911 | alright | 20:56 |
| ubuntourist | Success with jelkner and me but when others joined, it bounced him in and out. | 20:56 |
| mjsir911 | for /Success? | 20:57 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 20:57 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, verified: Email account still live. | 20:58 |
| mjsir911 | alright, thanks | 20:58 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, (Haven't checked it in forever. ;-) | 20:58 |
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