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| inana_16 | jelkner, where are you? | 10:07 |
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| jelkner | inana_16, i'm talking on the phone with heylin | 10:08 |
| inana_16 | Oh | 10:09 |
| jelkner | inana_16, hrodriguez and i are on hangout | 10:14 |
| jelkner | can you join us? | 10:14 |
| inana_16 | sure | 10:18 |
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| inana_16 | !remind | 10:49 |
| jelkner | !remind | 10:51 |
| jelkner | Figuring out OpenCollective | 10:52 |
| jelkner | !remind Figuring out OpenCollective | 10:52 |
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| abuchholz | !remind | 11:05 |
| inana_16 | jelkner urbackmk@gmail.com | 11:18 |
| inana_16 | Meghan Urback | 11:19 |
| inana_16 | !remind Invoice for Agaric and Colorado Independent Drivers United | 11:25 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 11:28 |
| jelkner | !remind Get Paypal infor to Clayton | 11:30 |
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| SITarabuta | !remind | 11:51 |
| SITarabuta | !remove Business Tracker has a *lot* of potential | 11:51 |
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| inana_16 | !remind | 11:52 |
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| inana_16 | did you remove the first item SITarabuta ? | 11:53 |
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| SITarabuta | yep, there isn't time for that yet | 11:53 |
| inana_16 | are you sure? | 11:53 |
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| SITarabuta | because i have lot of work | 11:53 |
| SITarabuta | yep | 11:53 |
| inana_16 | Okay | 11:53 |
| inana_16 | I was excited about it :( SITarabuta | 11:53 |
| SITarabuta | well | 11:54 |
| SITarabuta | I will talk about it at the end | 11:54 |
| inana_16 | Great! | 11:54 |
| SITarabuta | !remind | 11:54 |
| SITarabuta | !remind Business Tracker has a *lot* of potential | 11:55 |
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| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, potential vs. kinetic? ;-) | 11:55 |
| SITarabuta | potential ;) | 11:56 |
| inana_16 | Hello everyone! | 12:00 |
| jelkner | Good morning! | 12:00 |
| SITarabuta | !cronforce | 12:00 |
| @ubuntourist : SLewis : amina : SITarabuta : GFbot : zOnny : abuchholz : inana_16 : +jelkner : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ : wolcen | 12:00 | |
| Get Paypal infor to Clayton (jelkner) | 12:00 | |
| Business Tracker has a *lot* of potential (SITarabuta) | 12:00 | |
| inana_16 | Little brother is having issues again :( | 12:00 |
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| abuchholz | lets begin either stefan or I will look into it | 12:01 |
| inana_16 | Sure | 12:01 |
| inana_16 | Ok I think this meeting is going to be brief | 12:01 |
| inana_16 | first item: We need a better way to keep private business information (inana_16) | 12:01 |
| inana_16 | Well as you know, yesterday we had a *lot* of issues related to our organization, information and financial stuff | 12:02 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 12:02 |
| inana_16 | and it was really annoying for all of us | 12:03 |
| abuchholz | I really believe that business tracker would be a great place to put a lot of this info | 12:03 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 12:03 |
| abuchholz | stefan is swamped so maybe I can look into it | 12:03 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:03 |
| inana_16 | Amazing | 12:03 |
| ubuntourist | PostgreSQL has encryption built in... | 12:03 |
| inana_16 | I think we are in the same page regarding that, that's nice | 12:03 |
| ubuntourist | I mean, it has functions for encryption and decryption. | 12:03 |
| inana_16 | Thanks ubuntourist | 12:04 |
| inana_16 | ACTION done | 12:04 |
| ubuntourist | (And there are also Python packages that do that too.) | 12:04 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 12:05 |
| inana_16 | :) | 12:05 |
| inana_16 | Next item: Figuring out OpenCollective (jelkner) | 12:05 |
| inana_16 | I think that's the main task you're going to focus on today, right jelkner ? | 12:05 |
| jelkner | I'm on this | 12:06 |
| jelkner | sorry for the delay | 12:06 |
| inana_16 | no problem | 12:06 |
| jelkner | they are moving me over to the #support slack channel now | 12:06 |
| inana_16 | I see | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i'll spend today working on this | 12:06 |
| abuchholz | great | 12:07 |
| inana_16 | Great | 12:07 |
| jelkner | the big thing is that OpenCollective replaces our need for a 501c3 | 12:07 |
| jelkner | for LibreOrganize and BusinessTracker | 12:07 |
| jelkner | *thats* its main benefit to us | 12:07 |
| jelkner | it is our fiscal host | 12:07 |
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| jelkner | so we don't incur the time and expense of setting up a non-profit | 12:07 |
| jelkner | for online fund raising | 12:08 |
| ubuntourist | ? I thought they wanted us to assign a fiscal host ? | 12:08 |
| jelkner | they do that for us | 12:08 |
| jelkner | more later, ubuntourist | 12:08 |
| ubuntourist | OK. | 12:08 |
| jelkner | i'm chatting directly with them now | 12:08 |
| inana_16 | Thanks for the update jelkner | 12:08 |
| inana_16 | Next item: Invoice for Agaric and Colorado Independent Drivers United | 12:09 |
| inana_16 | Okay maybe you saw I mentioned this on discord SITarabuta | 12:09 |
| SITarabuta | hmm | 12:09 |
| SITarabuta | yes | 12:10 |
| inana_16 | I just reached Clayton and I asked him for the required fields we need to fill | 12:10 |
| inana_16 | So one question | 12:10 |
| inana_16 | the on the Agaric's one who should be the contact name? | 12:10 |
| SITarabuta | oh | 12:11 |
| SITarabuta | i kbow | 12:11 |
| inana_16 | I mean I know that you've been email with someone from Agaric | 12:11 |
| SITarabuta | know* | 12:11 |
| SITarabuta | Benjamin Melançon | 12:11 |
| inana_16 | But I don't remember the name | 12:11 |
| inana_16 | Nice | 12:11 |
| SITarabuta | <ben@agaric.com> | 12:11 |
| inana_16 | Thank you, we need the other information as well, I'm going to ask him about it ;) | 12:12 |
| inana_16 | ACTION done | 12:12 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 12:13 |
| inana_16 | since Jeff is not here, I'm not sure about the next item | 12:13 |
| inana_16 | "Get Paypal information to Clayton" | 12:14 |
| SITarabuta | If we get OpenCollective working | 12:14 |
| SITarabuta | we don't have to do that | 12:14 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 12:14 |
| SITarabuta | I don't know yet, let's wait | 12:14 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 12:14 |
| inana_16 | Okay | 12:14 |
| inana_16 | So next item: | 12:15 |
| inana_16 | Business Tracker has a *lot* of potential | 12:15 |
| SITarabuta | Well | 12:15 |
| SITarabuta | I will get shut off by jelkner | 12:15 |
| inana_16 | ACTION excited about this ;) | 12:15 |
| inana_16 | oh | 12:15 |
| SITarabuta | but my goodness I have the whole stack in my mind and I know exactly how to do this | 12:15 |
| SITarabuta | so Business Tracker is open source | 12:15 |
| SITarabuta | but what if we offered it as SaaS | 12:15 |
| SITarabuta | honestly. | 12:15 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 12:16 |
| SITarabuta | we could be the good guys :D | 12:16 |
| SITarabuta | I don't wanna talk for 30 minutes to then get shut off | 12:16 |
| SITarabuta | So I will just wait for jelkner's input | 12:16 |
| abuchholz | well | 12:16 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 12:16 |
| ubuntourist | My input: | 12:17 |
| ubuntourist | SaaS will require a very responsive support team. | 12:17 |
| SITarabuta | hmm maybe if we make it cheap we can get away with saying support is limited or something | 12:18 |
| ubuntourist | If we're offering to partners in different time zones, be prepared to be awake and responsive when something's not working. | 12:18 |
| SITarabuta | oh well, ubuntourist has a good point | 12:18 |
| ubuntourist | I won't get into the politics and philosophy. I'll leave that to you-know-who. I'm just talking about the pragmatic challenges. | 12:19 |
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| inana_16 | I see | 12:19 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, So, in big, bold letters, DISCLAIMER: LIMITED SUPPORT... ;-) | 12:20 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 12:20 |
| SITarabuta | :-) | 12:20 |
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| inana_16 | We can talk about this later I guess ;) | 12:20 |
| inana_16 | So... | 12:21 |
| inana_16 | anything else? | 12:21 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION raises hand | 12:21 |
| inana_16 | :) ubuntourist | 12:21 |
| inana_16 | ACTION waiting for ubuntourist | 12:22 |
| ubuntourist | Sound Advice - I walked zOnny through setting up the Pac-u-lator (name chosen by "Hurricane" Flint). ;-) | 12:22 |
| abuchholz | I also have some questions but ill wait till ubuntourist is done | 12:22 |
| ubuntourist | And, after much fussing, I got the main "Sound Advice" code working in a virtual machine. | 12:23 |
| zOnny | I also have some questions but I will wait till abuchholz is done | 12:23 |
| ubuntourist | Now, I need to figure out what's changed between 18.04 and 20.04 to break stuff. | 12:23 |
| ubuntourist | But at least, I can see my old code running again. | 12:24 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 12:24 |
| abuchholz | alright | 12:24 |
| abuchholz | cool. so what do we need to save in this app for information | 12:24 |
| abuchholz | passwords | 12:24 |
| abuchholz | credit information? | 12:24 |
| abuchholz | anything else? | 12:24 |
| SITarabuta | abuchholz i am pretty sure | 12:24 |
| SITarabuta | you will be able to save all of this | 12:24 |
| SITarabuta | in the projects app im doing | 12:25 |
| abuchholz | ok | 12:25 |
| SITarabuta | but you can have a try at it ;) | 12:25 |
| abuchholz | well I have to catch up on func tests for libreorganize which will probably take the next couple of days but i am happy to help if you need it stefan | 12:25 |
| inana_16 | and some notes as Security questions, that's what we already have in our Passwords spreadsheet abuchholz | 12:25 |
| jelkner | i'm back | 12:26 |
| jelkner | reading log now | 12:26 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, inana_16 can we talk after? | 12:26 |
| abuchholz | ok. i mean it sounds like stefan has this handled. it would be nice if he didn't refuse help | 12:26 |
| inana_16 | sure jelkner | 12:26 |
| SITarabuta | yes jelkner | 12:26 |
| jelkner | we need to get Clayton payment info today | 12:26 |
| SITarabuta | xD abuchholz | 12:27 |
| abuchholz | <# | 12:27 |
| inana_16 | right SITarabuta lol | 12:27 |
| abuchholz | <3 | 12:27 |
| inana_16 | abuchholz* | 12:27 |
| SITarabuta | i am a lone wolf | 12:27 |
| abuchholz | alright I think zOnny wanted to ask some things | 12:27 |
| SITarabuta | don't touch my junk! | 12:27 |
| abuchholz | and then we can wrap up | 12:27 |
| inana_16 | poor abuchholz | 12:27 |
| inana_16 | he wants to help you SITarabuta | 12:27 |
| inana_16 | ;) | 12:27 |
| zOnny | nvm I can ask them later | 12:28 |
| abuchholz | don't touch mine either stefan ;) | 12:28 |
| SITarabuta | *woof* | 12:28 |
| abuchholz | **Hiss** | 12:28 |
| inana_16 | lol | 12:28 |
| inana_16 | Okay, are we done know? | 12:28 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION munches the popcorn... | 12:28 |
| abuchholz | yeah think so | 12:28 |
| abuchholz | we can continue some discussion on hangout | 12:29 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 12:29 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION pops a non-diet Coke | 12:29 |
| inana_16 | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 12:29 |
| inana_16 | Thank you everyone! | 12:29 |
| jelkner | great meeting! | 12:29 |
| jelkner | let's chat on hangout | 12:29 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 12:29 |
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| jelkner | ubuntourist, ping | 13:49 |
| jelkner | i tried $ ssh jelkner@mayfirst.org | 13:50 |
| jelkner | using the password that i use to login to horde | 13:50 |
| jelkner | permission denied | 13:50 |
| inana_16 | jelkner, the first amount that we are going to invoice CIDU is 1.5k right? as first part payment for this project | 13:50 |
| inana_16 | ? | 13:51 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:51 |
| inana_16 | Okay that should be the invoice detail as well, right? | 13:51 |
| inana_16 | "first part payment for CIDU's website development" jelkner | 13:52 |
| inana_16 | I'm just double checking all this before I create the invoice | 13:52 |
| inana_16 | jelkner | 13:52 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i found it | 13:55 |
| jelkner | i'm on daza | 13:55 |
| inana_16 | jelkner, Do you have 2 mins? | 14:12 |
| jelkner | sure inana_16 | 14:12 |
| jelkner | what's up? | 14:12 |
| inana_16 | just want to show you the draft | 14:12 |
| jelkner | draft? | 14:13 |
| inana_16 | invoice draft | 14:13 |
| jelkner | for what? | 14:13 |
| inana_16 | https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/planning} | 14:13 |
| inana_16 | https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/planning | 14:13 |
| jelkner | i can't | 14:13 |
| jelkner | i don't have the laptop that works with jitsi | 14:14 |
| jelkner | zOnny is using the table | 14:14 |
| jelkner | do what you think is best | 14:14 |
| jelkner | i trust you | 14:14 |
| inana_16 | Ok, I'm going to send you on an email, | 14:14 |
| inana_16 | mmmm | 14:14 |
| inana_16 | you need to double check this | 14:14 |
| inana_16 | I'm sure of it | 14:14 |
| inana_16 | jelkner | 14:14 |
| jelkner | ok, but you are going to have to get comfortable making these calls on your own soon | 14:15 |
| jelkner | i go back to school | 14:15 |
| jelkner | business needs to flow | 14:15 |
| jelkner | you'll be driving! | 14:15 |
| jelkner | send me the email | 14:15 |
| jelkner | i'll look | 14:15 |
| jelkner | let's talk about why you had doubts | 14:16 |
| jelkner | so you can learn what you need to make the call on your own later | 14:16 |
| jelkner | sound good? | 14:16 |
| inana_16 | I know :( | 14:16 |
| inana_16 | That's why I need Louie here :( | 14:16 |
| jelkner | Let's hope he joins us | 14:16 |
| inana_16 | I can not do all that alone, and you know that | 14:16 |
| inana_16 | jelkner | 14:16 |
| inana_16 | I mean, I try | 14:17 |
| jelkner | you succeed, inana_16! | 14:17 |
| jelkner | you're doing great | 14:17 |
| jelkner | an so is NOVA Web because of that | 14:17 |
| jelkner | send me the email | 14:18 |
| inana_16 | I did it already | 14:18 |
| inana_16 | jelkner | 14:18 |
| jelkner | i need to try to collect on the Arlington Admins | 14:18 |
| jelkner | and learn OpenCollective | 14:18 |
| jelkner | so, inana_16, why the doubt? | 14:19 |
| jelkner | looks perfect to me. | 14:19 |
| inana_16 | Thanks God! | 14:19 |
| inana_16 | Ok, I'm going to send it to Clayton right now | 14:19 |
| inana_16 | jelkner, thanks for double checking | 14:20 |
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| SITarabuta | i hate this web client | 14:21 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i know you're not a fan of irc, but it really beats email for things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldHhUBlVjig | 14:24 |
| jelkner | I got on social.coop and boosted like you said | 14:24 |
| jelkner | i also subscribed to the YouTube channel and gave it a boost there. | 14:24 |
| inana_16 | I was thinking that you can add it to our post jelkner ;) | 14:25 |
| jelkner | inana_16, we should link to this from the LibreOrganize site, yes? | 14:25 |
| inana_16 | and send it to Trebor and the people you know ;) | 14:25 |
| inana_16 | Yeah | 14:25 |
| jelkner | Will do | 14:25 |
| inana_16 | it could be there as well | 14:25 |
| jelkner | next week | 14:25 |
| inana_16 | It would be a great idea to create a discussion on Canvas as well | 14:26 |
| inana_16 | jelkner | 14:26 |
| jelkner | I see a blog post titled "Principle 6: Cooperation among Cooperators | 14:26 |
| inana_16 | Interesting | 14:27 |
| jelkner | with profound gratitude to Micky, Clayton, and the rest of the wonderful folks at Agaric | 14:27 |
| jelkner | https://www.ica.coop/en/cooperatives/cooperative-identity | 14:27 |
| jelkner | btw, inana_16 this is the international organization i was mentioning to you and heyling this morning | 14:27 |
| jelkner | and this page lists the 7 principles | 14:28 |
| jelkner | we need to get all our members to at least learn them | 14:28 |
| jelkner | by heart ;-) | 14:28 |
| inana_16 | https://www.ica.coop/en/become-a-member | 14:29 |
| inana_16 | jelkner | 14:29 |
| inana_16 | they have membership types | 14:29 |
| jelkner | so let's wait a bit, inana_16 | 14:29 |
| jelkner | first let's finish USFWC, and Tech Worker Coop Network | 14:30 |
| jelkner | btw. Did you see the email from Tech Worker Coop Network? | 14:30 |
| inana_16 | sure, we have that progress going now | 14:30 |
| inana_16 | Yeah, they we're confused right? because I sent the correct info jelkner | 14:31 |
| inana_16 | Now she knows that she needs to reach me as well, you mentioned that jelkner | 14:31 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, To me, IRC is like twitter and mastodon: Lots of little trees that quickly get lost in the forest. | 14:42 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, OK for ads, and current conversations. Horrible for most other things. | 14:43 |
| ubuntourist | I'm in your brother's camp when it comes to reading through IRC logs... I'd rather clean a toilet with a toothbrush. | 14:44 |
| ubuntourist | I cannot sort, classify, edit, delete, or otherwise organize an IRC log into anything coherent. | 14:44 |
| ubuntourist | I had asked for the output of your "pwd" but, IRC ruins attention span (or those without an attention span prefer it). | 14:47 |
| inana_16 | So, the first: https://gitlab.com/libreorganize/libreorganize/-/issues/175 , German is going to add it to the LibreOrganize navbar, share it and find where to place it, it would be a task for us this week ubuntourist | 14:48 |
| inana_16 | I mean, jelkner and I | 14:48 |
| inana_16 | :D | 14:48 |
| inana_16 | brb | 14:48 |
| inana_16 | ACTION away | 14:48 |
| inana_16 | ACTION back | 15:27 |
| inana_16 : +jelkner : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ : wolcen | 16:00 | |
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| jelkner | inana_16, ping | 17:46 |
| inana_16 | hello jelkner | 17:46 |
| inana_16 | jelkner, done! | 17:51 |
| jelkner | inana_16, just added it to our calendar | 17:56 |
| inana_16 | nice | 17:56 |
| inana_16 | thanks | 17:56 |
| inana_16 | So, I think I'm done for today jelkner | 17:56 |
| inana_16 | I'm going to sign off, see you ;) jelkner | 17:57 |
| jelkner | Sounds good, Nana | 17:57 |
| jelkner | Hasta tomorrow | 17:57 |
| inana_16 | see u tomorrow | 17:57 |
| jelkner | ACTION logs off for the evening | 19:22 |
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