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| jelkner | !remind | 13:56 |
| Use the new StackScript to deploy Linodes (SITarabuta) | 13:56 | |
| Get Business Tracker listed in Alternative To (SITarabuta) | 13:56 | |
| It's time to prune unused NWD email addresses (Jeff sent a notice about this in January) (SITarabuta) | 13:56 | |
| Decidim proposal from Jelkner (jelkner) | 13:56 | |
| Support for TLS 1.0 1.1 and TLS 1.3 (SITarabuta) | 13:56 | |
| Add collective bargaining webinar to AEA home page. (jelkner) | 13:56 | |
| members please share your info with me for tax forms (lelkneralfaro) | 13:56 | |
| jelkner | !remind Add content indexing to MSP website | 13:57 |
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| nrcerna | !remind | 15:01 |
| Use the new StackScript to deploy Linodes (SITarabuta) | 15:01 | |
| Get Business Tracker listed in Alternative To (SITarabuta) | 15:01 | |
| It's time to prune unused NWD email addresses (Jeff sent a notice about this in January) (SITarabuta) | 15:01 | |
| Decidim proposal from Jelkner (jelkner) | 15:01 | |
| Support for TLS 1.0 1.1 and TLS 1.3 (SITarabuta) | 15:01 | |
| Add collective bargaining webinar to AEA home page. (jelkner) | 15:01 | |
| members please share your info with me for tax forms (lelkneralfaro) | 15:01 | |
| Add content indexing to MSP website (jelkner) | 15:01 | |
| nrcerna | Morning jelkner | 15:10 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind | 15:18 |
| Use the new StackScript to deploy Linodes (SITarabuta) | 15:18 | |
| Get Business Tracker listed in Alternative To (SITarabuta) | 15:18 | |
| It's time to prune unused NWD email addresses (Jeff sent a notice about this in January) (SITarabuta) | 15:18 | |
| Decidim proposal from Jelkner (jelkner) | 15:18 | |
| Support for TLS 1.0 1.1 and TLS 1.3 (SITarabuta) | 15:18 | |
| Add collective bargaining webinar to AEA home page. (jelkner) | 15:18 | |
| members please share your info with me for tax forms (lelkneralfaro) | 15:18 | |
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| SITarabuta : Hisham : mr_german : abuchholz : lelkneralfaro : @ubuntourist : nrcerna : +jelkner : wolcen : @ChanServ : @mjsir911 | 16:00 | |
| Good afternoon everyone! | 16:00 | |
| It's 16:00 UTC and NOVA Web Development's bi-weekly meeting is starting. | 16:00 | |
| This is the agenda for today: | 16:00 | |
| Use the new StackScript to deploy Linodes (SITarabuta) | 16:00 | |
| Get Business Tracker listed in Alternative To (SITarabuta) | 16:00 | |
| It's time to prune unused NWD email addresses (Jeff sent a notice about this in January) (SITarabuta) | 16:00 | |
| Decidim proposal from Jelkner (jelkner) | 16:00 | |
| Support for TLS 1.0 1.1 and TLS 1.3 (SITarabuta) | 16:00 | |
| Add collective bargaining webinar to AEA home page. (jelkner) | 16:00 | |
| members please share your info with me for tax forms (lelkneralfaro) | 16:00 | |
| Add content indexing to MSP website (jelkner) | 16:00 | |
| Have a nice day! | 16:00 | |
| nrcerna | it didnt fire | 16:00 |
| SITarabuta | it did | 16:00 |
| mr_german | hello there | 16:00 |
| SITarabuta | hi | 16:00 |
| nrcerna | oh yeah | 16:00 |
| abuchholz | hi | 16:00 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION yawns... | 16:00 |
| Hisham | hello | 16:00 |
| nrcerna | hello everyone! | 16:00 |
| jelkner | Good morning! | 16:00 |
| Hisham | Hi, hello, good morning. | 16:01 |
| nrcerna | Ok, let's start | 16:01 |
| nrcerna | first item: Use the new StackScript to deploy Linodes | 16:01 |
| SITarabuta | Alright so when deploying new Linodes there is now a script we should use. | 16:01 |
| SITarabuta | It's located on the left sidepanel in the "StackScripts" | 16:01 |
| SITarabuta | It does some fancy stuff such as installing a firewall, disabling root password logins, and setting a cronjob for getting SSH keys from GitLab automatically | 16:02 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, provided by Linode? Or something home-grown? Or a combination of the two? | 16:02 |
| SITarabuta | Some other stuff as well, but that is the general idea | 16:02 |
| SITarabuta | StackScripts are provided by Linode | 16:02 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, thanks. | 16:02 |
| SITarabuta | They basically let you run some shell script or python script when the Linode is first booted up | 16:03 |
| jelkner | This is awesome, SITarabuta! | 16:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | sounds good | 16:03 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 16:03 |
| jelkner | Configuration management is one of the key skills we need in our toolbox. | 16:03 |
| jelkner | This is a big step in that direction. | 16:03 |
| jelkner | Thanks! | 16:03 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:03 |
| nrcerna | great,thanks | 16:04 |
| nrcerna | next item: Get Business Tracker listed in Alternative To | 16:04 |
| SITarabuta | Agaric mentioned this in Zulip. I didn't know what to do with this information, so I just added it here as an item ;-) | 16:04 |
| lelkneralfaro | :) | 16:04 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, is this something you could look into? | 16:04 |
| nrcerna | :) | 16:04 |
| jelkner | You have often done things like this for us in the past. | 16:05 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, Dunno if it's worth the effort: There are currently 218 alternatives to Harvest listed... | 16:05 |
| jelkner | Ah, but filter for open source | 16:05 |
| lelkneralfaro | we need an alternative to "Alternative To" | 16:05 |
| SITarabuta | ^ xD | 16:05 |
| nrcerna | lol | 16:05 |
| jelkner | Anyway, Agaric may do this themselves now that Sanjay is there | 16:06 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, I can put something in there, based on our own press, but we will be a needle in a haystack. | 16:06 |
| jelkner | This came from Agaric, ubuntourist, not me. | 16:06 |
| nrcerna | we can try | 16:07 |
| jelkner | So I don't know what to make of it. | 16:07 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:07 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, When / if that happens, it will be up to people to go to the site and provide testimonials and up-vote it. | 16:07 |
| SITarabuta | I always find the needle in the haystack | 16:07 |
| SITarabuta | Or not | 16:07 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, I sit on the needle. Painful. | 16:07 |
| SITarabuta | Ouchy! | 16:07 |
| nrcerna | So... | 16:08 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION will toss the needle in, and hope for the best. | 16:08 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 16:08 |
| nrcerna | thanks ubuntourist | 16:08 |
| nrcerna | next item: It's time to prune unused NWD email addresses (Jeff sent a notice about this in January) | 16:08 |
| jelkner | Been there, done that | 16:09 |
| SITarabuta | Ah yes. It was getting messy | 16:09 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:09 |
| SITarabuta | Awesome | 16:09 |
| nrcerna | Nice | 16:09 |
| jelkner | I did it in response to your item, SITarabuta, so it worked ;-) | 16:09 |
| SITarabuta | ;-) | 16:09 |
| nrcerna | Next item: Decidim proposal from jelkner | 16:09 |
| jelkner | I purchased the domain, ustechworkercoops.org | 16:10 |
| jelkner | i would like to hire NWD to create a decidim site for that project | 16:10 |
| jelkner | looking for an estimate | 16:10 |
| lelkneralfaro | I'll get started on the proposal | 16:10 |
| jelkner | we can talk more after in BBB | 16:11 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:11 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, nice snagging of the domain name. Clear and discoverable. | 16:11 |
| jelkner | thanks, ubuntourist | 16:11 |
| nrcerna | great | 16:11 |
| nrcerna | next item: Support for TLS 1.0 1.1 and TLS 1.3 | 16:11 |
| SITarabuta | Ahh this one is so complicated. | 16:11 |
| SITarabuta | It basically relates to our incorrect usage of certbot in a way, but also to Debian. | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | Debian's repo does not update Certbot in any way. It is like 20 versions behind. | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | Which means that we still support TLS 1.0 and 1.1, but don't support TLS 1.3 | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | Which wouldn't be such big of a deal | 16:12 |
| SITarabuta | if it would be for this site (https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=novawebdevelopment.org) | 16:13 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, is this a job for StackScripts? | 16:13 |
| SITarabuta | that capped our grade at B because we still support TLS 1.0 and 1.1 | 16:13 |
| SITarabuta | In a way jelkner | 16:13 |
| SITarabuta | But we have been using certbot wrong basically | 16:13 |
| SITarabuta | I read their documentation and we should NOT use the distribution version, ever | 16:13 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, certbot. Let's Encrypt, right? | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | Yep | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | So we'll have to figure a way. | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | Either we keep doing it like this | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | and we wait for Debian 11 to update certbot to the newest version, problem fixed | 16:14 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, So, use the "official" one directly from LetsEncrypt rather than any apt package, correct? | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | or we use it like intended and use whatever script they recommend | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | Yep ubuntourist | 16:14 |
| jelkner | Sounds like your call, SITarabuta, as the only one among us who can figure this out | 16:15 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, I vote use the script from the source. IIRC it's just a Bash script. No need to bother Debian for it. | 16:15 |
| SITarabuta | Well, I like doing it the way "if it ain't broken don't fix it" | 16:15 |
| SITarabuta | BUT | 16:15 |
| ubuntourist | But... it sounds broken. ;-) | 16:15 |
| SITarabuta | that means that we shouldn't change what we already have | 16:15 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist I was thinking of use the correct one from now on | 16:16 |
| SITarabuta | As at somepoint we'll have to reconfigure the current servers anyway | 16:16 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, +1 | 16:16 |
| SITarabuta | Considering some are on Ubuntu.. | 16:16 |
| SITarabuta | So then I'll just add it to the StackScript or something and it will be available in the correct form on new Linodes | 16:17 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 16:17 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 16:17 |
| nrcerna | ok | 16:17 |
| nrcerna | next item: Add collective bargaining webinar to AEA home page | 16:17 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, can you help me with this tomorrow? | 16:18 |
| jelkner | we have the webinar coming up March 21 | 16:18 |
| nrcerna | yeah | 16:18 |
| jelkner | cool | 16:18 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:18 |
| nrcerna | next item: members please share your info with me for tax forms | 16:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist and SITarabuta please send me your tax id and address | 16:19 |
| SITarabuta | Ah yes. Although it's our own email servers, I would rather not have stored in plain text on some server? xD | 16:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | SITarabuta, yes I definitely understand the security concern | 16:19 |
| ubuntourist | lelkneralfaro, Ah. I was thinking, with zero income, it was a pointless exercise, but will do. | 16:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | SITarabuta, let me know how you want to handle that | 16:19 |
| SITarabuta | I can tell it to you out loud | 16:20 |
| nrcerna | lol | 16:20 |
| SITarabuta | lmao | 16:20 |
| SITarabuta | Or on Signal or something | 16:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | SITarabuta, sounds good! then our enemies can download it from my brain | 16:20 |
| SITarabuta | Exactly! | 16:20 |
| ubuntourist | GPG... | 16:20 |
| nrcerna | i feel like that info would be great have it on BT | 16:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, jelkner said that although we didn't receive income we should file our taxes | 16:20 |
| SITarabuta | nrcerna I don't trust myself with storing that xD | 16:21 |
| jelkner | ACTION was waiting for ubuntourist to mention GPG | 16:21 |
| nrcerna | each account info | 16:21 |
| nrcerna | I see | 16:21 |
| jelkner | a perfect use case, this | 16:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, for the purpose of getting loans in the future or such | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | Unless I encrypt it somehow | 16:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, we need to have all our papers filed | 16:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | SITarabuta, no need to solve that problem | 16:21 |
| nrcerna | right | 16:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | SITarabuta, just tell me via Signal or voice | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | We are becoming a legit business. Unacceptable! | 16:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | lol | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | lelkneralfaro alrighty | 16:21 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, as I said above (and jelkner echoed): GPG. ;-) | 16:21 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 16:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | yes I agree that solution is important and we should have this info somewhere secure where we can access it. | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist that doesn't ring a bell in the Django part of my brain ;-) | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 16:22 |
| nrcerna | next item: Add content indexing to MSP website | 16:23 |
| jelkner | Where is mjsir911 when you need him? ;-) | 16:23 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:23 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, Python has an encryption module... ;-) | 16:23 |
| SITarabuta | Ah! Got it ubuntourist | 16:23 |
| jelkner | ok, on MSP, nrcerna, and soon lelkneralfaro are in on the conversation | 16:23 |
| jelkner | it's about indexing the newsletter contents | 16:23 |
| jelkner | just wanted to put it our radar now | 16:23 |
| nrcerna | sure | 16:24 |
| jelkner | follow up by email after | 16:24 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:24 |
| nrcerna | great, thanks jelkner | 16:24 |
| nrcerna | anything else, anyone? | 16:24 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, et al: This is (to a degree) a use for https://schema.org/ and microdata... | 16:24 |
| nrcerna | just a reminder, Daylight saving is going to begin next week, Sunday, March 14 | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | Ah. | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | Are we moving the meeting to 12PM EST? | 16:26 |
| ubuntourist | So, those of us to the north move to 12? | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | So that it stays in place for us | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | not us, damnit I messed up | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | for El Salvador | 16:26 |
| nrcerna | what do you all think? | 16:26 |
| jelkner | I'll meet whenever y'all say | 16:26 |
| jelkner | makes no matter to me | 16:27 |
| SITarabuta | I'll always take a later meeting ;-) | 16:27 |
| abuchholz | same | 16:27 |
| jelkner | but we need to make sure LittleBrother is set right | 16:27 |
| SITarabuta | don't worry jelkner | 16:27 |
| SITarabuta | Also it would probably help lelkneralfaro a bit | 16:27 |
| SITarabuta | Because it is 8:27 for him right now | 16:27 |
| lelkneralfaro | SITarabuta, wouldn't hurt :) | 16:27 |
| SITarabuta | I think we have our answer! | 16:28 |
| jelkner | So, 12 noon EST? | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | Yep | 16:28 |
| nrcerna | Nice, so will be 12 PM ET, 10 AM (El Salvador), 9 AM for lelkneralfaro | 16:28 |
| nrcerna | right? | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | Yep | 16:28 |
| nrcerna | nice | 16:29 |
| SITarabuta | 1 AM China, 5 PM UK | 16:29 |
| SITarabuta | So on, so forth | 16:29 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, Memory fails. Does LittleBrother use cron? If so, cron rules can be set up to accommodate the change in time... (I'm sure there are other ways too.) | 16:29 |
| jelkner | 5 PM UK is important, SITarabuta | 16:29 |
| jelkner | since that will be your time in September ;-) | 16:29 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist ah, I always went in and changed it myself | 16:29 |
| nrcerna | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 16:29 |
| SITarabuta | indeed jelkner ! | 16:29 |
| jelkner | Just when you're waking up, SITarabuta ;-) | 16:30 |
| nrcerna | thank you everyone! | 16:30 |
| SITarabuta | just in time!! | 16:30 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, yeah, I know. I'm just thinking that this keeps coming up and time for ti to be artificially intelligent. | 16:30 |
| nrcerna | mr_german, join us on BBB | 16:30 |
| mr_german | nrcerna im there | 16:31 |
| nrcerna | thanks ;) mr_german | 16:31 |
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