| jelkner | !agenda | 09:49 |
|---|---|---|
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 09:49 |
| LittleWebster | NOVA Websters reports on what they did last week (10 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 09:49 |
| LittleWebster | Brief introduction to our irc bot, LittleWebster (5 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 09:49 |
| LittleWebster | Continue live presentation of Robots are Coming development (1 hour 15 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 09:49 |
| *** LittleWebster has joined #novawebdev | 10:02 | |
| LittleWebster | jelkner | 10:04 |
| LittleWebster | Tick Tock! | 10:04 |
| LittleWebster | It's 10:04 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting. | 10:04 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for today: | 10:04 |
| LittleWebster | NOVA Websters reports on what they did last week (10 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 10:04 |
| LittleWebster | Brief introduction to our irc bot, LittleWebster (5 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 10:04 |
| LittleWebster | Continue live presentation of Robots are Coming development (1 hour 15 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 10:04 |
| LittleWebster | Have a nice day, Websters! | 10:04 |
| *** LittleWebster has joined #novawebdev | 10:05 | |
| jelkner | Good morning scooper! | 11:26 |
| jelkner | scooper: we have 30 minutes until class starts. | 11:27 |
| scooper | Good morning Jeff I'm set and awaiting your signal | 11:27 |
| jelkner | Do we want to try to do the September funds transfer? | 11:27 |
| jelkner | I forget what we used for that. | 11:27 |
| scooper | I done understand sir | 11:28 |
| jelkner | You and I sat in a restaurant, and I transferred funds to you. | 11:28 |
| jelkner | We need to do it again. | 11:29 |
| jelkner | Since it's a month later. | 11:29 |
| jelkner | How did we do that? | 11:29 |
| scooper | OK Jeff My since number I give you first | 11:29 |
| scooper | same | 11:29 |
| jelkner | What platform did we use? | 11:29 |
| jelkner | I forget everything? | 11:29 |
| jelkner | delete the ? | 11:29 |
| jelkner | make it a ! | 11:29 |
| jelkner | LoL | 11:30 |
| scooper | It was Remitely | 11:30 |
| jelkner | Perfect. | 11:30 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to try to login to Remitely... | 11:30 |
| scooper | remitly | 11:30 |
| scooper | you should login not me | 11:33 |
| scooper | DO you till have the number I give you??? | 11:33 |
| scooper | The number is +231886852009 | 11:34 |
| scooper | PLease text me the link we use this goe saturday for our video conversion... Tried searching Hexchat but it seeing difficult to locate in a quick manner | 11:36 |
| scooper | I received it | 11:37 |
| jelkner | Sweet! | 11:38 |
| jelkner | That was *easy*. | 11:38 |
| jelkner | Ok, we're all set. | 11:38 |
| scooper | Please text me the link Jeff | 11:38 |
| jelkner | What link? | 11:38 |
| scooper | The link we use this goe saturday for the video chat | 11:38 |
| jelkner | So we can get to that a bit later. | 11:39 |
| jelkner | What we really need is to learn to use this irc chat effectively first. | 11:39 |
| scooper | I'm searching Hexchat but can't locate right now... | 11:39 |
| scooper | +1 | 11:39 |
| jelkner | We'll get to that, and I'll explain it more when the other NOVA Websters arrive. | 11:39 |
| jelkner | For now, try typing !agenda | 11:40 |
| jelkner | What do you see? | 11:40 |
| scooper | I m seeing your text for now | 11:40 |
| jelkner | I mean when you type "!agenda" | 11:40 |
| scooper | NOTHING SIR | 11:41 |
| jelkner | Really? That's troubling. | 11:42 |
| scooper | I type as you instructed but can not see anything strange | 11:42 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 11:42 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 11:42 |
| LittleWebster | NOVA Websters reports on what they did last week (10 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 11:42 |
| LittleWebster | Brief introduction to our irc bot, LittleWebster (5 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 11:42 |
| LittleWebster | Continue live presentation of Robots are Coming development (1 hour 15 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 11:42 |
| jelkner | I see three agenda items | 11:42 |
| jelkner | And a heading that says "This is the agenda for the next meeting" | 11:42 |
| jelkner | We need to get that to work for all of us. | 11:42 |
| scooper | Oh do you mean what you sent me this gone thursday?? | 11:43 |
| jelkner | Yes | 11:43 |
| jelkner | Here in irc, you should be able to type "!agenda" | 11:43 |
| jelkner | without the quotes | 11:43 |
| scooper | Instructing all the intern to complete their weekly task? | 11:43 |
| jelkner | and see today's agenda | 11:43 |
| jelkner | No, my friend, don't over complicate this. | 11:44 |
| scooper | !agenda | 11:44 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 11:44 |
| LittleWebster | NOVA Websters reports on what they did last week (10 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 11:44 |
| LittleWebster | Brief introduction to our irc bot, LittleWebster (5 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 11:44 |
| LittleWebster | Continue live presentation of Robots are Coming development (1 hour 15 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 11:44 |
| jelkner | There you go! ;-) | 11:44 |
| jelkner | This is my first objective for today | 11:44 |
| scooper | I m sorry I include the qoutation first | 11:44 |
| jelkner | Got it | 11:44 |
| jelkner | So LittleWebster is a bot | 11:44 |
| jelkner | a bot is just a program that runs constantly and enables us to give it commands | 11:45 |
| scooper | OK | 11:45 |
| jelkner | Louis has fixed it so that our weekly meeting is scheduled for 12 noon UTC | 11:45 |
| scooper | What next should are domonstrate | 11:46 |
| jelkner | during the week, whenever any of us thinks of something we should discuss at the start of our weekly meeting | 11:46 |
| scooper | what next should I demonstrate?? | 11:46 |
| jelkner | they can just type (without the quotes): "!add We should talk about this or that" | 11:46 |
| jelkner | and "We should talk about this or that" | 11:46 |
| jelkner | will appear in the agenda | 11:46 |
| jelkner | "!remove We should talk about this or that" | 11:47 |
| jelkner | will remove it | 11:47 |
| jelkner | In 13 minutes, LittleWebster will automatically print out our agenda | 11:47 |
| jelkner | And our meeting begins | 11:47 |
| scooper | !remove we should talk about this or that | 11:48 |
| LittleWebster | Error: "we should talk about this or that" is not on the agenda or was added by someone else! | 11:48 |
| jelkner | The URL: https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 11:48 |
| jelkner | Can be used to see everything that is written in this channel by date. | 11:48 |
| scooper | should I click the link above? | 11:48 |
| jelkner | Go ahead. | 11:48 |
| jelkner | Check it out. | 11:48 |
| scooper | It's loading | 11:49 |
| scooper | I m in | 11:50 |
| jelkner | So take a look at how it is organized | 11:50 |
| jelkner | by date | 11:50 |
| scooper | Yes I 'm seeing everything | 11:51 |
| jelkner | You can look back at last Saturday, for example | 11:51 |
| jelkner | https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/%23novawebdev/2022-08-27.log.html | 11:51 |
| jelkner | and see our meeting last week. | 11:51 |
| jelkner | This makes it easy for the interns to review what we discuss after the meeting is over | 11:51 |
| jelkner | So I just want to get everyone used to using this tool. | 11:52 |
| jelkner | It is very light weight (requires minimal bandwidth) | 11:52 |
| scooper | OK should I connect them now?? | 11:52 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:52 |
| jelkner | Are they here? | 11:52 |
| scooper | +1 | 11:53 |
| jelkner | They should join irc as soon as they arrive | 11:53 |
| jelkner | This is where we meet | 11:53 |
| jelkner | We I want to do a presentation, we'll start a video chat, but only one computer there should be used for that | 11:53 |
| jelkner | to avoid feedback and minimize bandwidth use | 11:54 |
| jelkner | I meant to say "When we want to do a presentation..." | 11:54 |
| jelkner | We don't what to start that until item 3 in our agenda | 11:54 |
| jelkner | Good morning fkoikoi! | 11:55 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning Jeff | 11:55 |
| fkoikoi | How was your night? | 11:56 |
| scooper | Daniel is absence for now | 11:56 |
| jelkner | Good morning janet! | 11:56 |
| jelkner | Good morning svaye_! | 11:56 |
| scooper | welcome svaye | 11:56 |
| svaye_ | Good morning | 11:57 |
| janet | how are you jeff | 11:57 |
| jelkner | I'm happy to be chatting with you, janet | 11:57 |
| scooper | How was your night and what did you ate this morning? | 11:57 |
| jelkner | I really look forward to Saturday morning! | 11:57 |
| jelkner | Good morning mulbah and tboimah! | 11:57 |
| svaye_ | How was your week Jeff | 11:57 |
| scooper | + tboimah | 11:58 |
| jelkner | It was great, svaye_. | 11:58 |
| tboimah | I'm fine and you? | 11:58 |
| jelkner | My classes are off to a nice start. | 11:58 |
| jelkner | How was yours? | 11:58 |
| svaye_ | It was great | 11:59 |
| jelkner | Glad to hear that. | 11:59 |
| jelkner | In less than a minute, LittleWebster should print our agenda | 11:59 |
| jelkner | Let's see if it works. | 11:59 |
| LittleWebster | mulbah : jelkner : scooper : janet : tboimah : fkoikoi : svaye_ | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | Tick Tock! | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | It's 12:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting. | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for today: | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | NOVA Websters reports on what they did last week (10 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | Brief introduction to our irc bot, LittleWebster (5 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | Continue live presentation of Robots are Coming development (1 hour 15 minutes). (added by jelkner) | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | Have a nice day, Websters! | 12:00 |
| jelkner | LoL it did! | 12:00 |
| jelkner | So everyone, let's jump right in. | 12:00 |
| jelkner | The first agenda item is your weekly reports | 12:00 |
| jelkner | You don't have to wait for each other, you can all type at once | 12:00 |
| jelkner | just give us a brief summary of what you learned last week | 12:01 |
| jelkner | or what you studied | 12:01 |
| scooper | Guys base on your paste please start texting | 12:01 |
| jelkner | ACTION waits for the NOVA Websters to give their reports... | 12:02 |
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| fkoikoi | Hi jeff!Last week was great. I learned a lots of thing and i was able to complete challenge 3 and 4 on robot. I am moving to challenge five(5) now. Even though it's a bit difficult but i think that i will get it done as soon as possible. I have also started practicing on vim tutor. | 12:06 |
| janet | last week i studied on the robots are coming,and am working on challenge 5 right now,hopping to move to six as soon as possible. | 12:06 |
| dcammue | Hi Jeff | 12:06 |
| jelkner | Glad you're continuing with the vim tutor, fkoikoi | 12:06 |
| jelkner | increasing your typing speed and learning to use vim are going to be very important for success in our project | 12:07 |
| tboimah | okay, I work on the robot program and i am seeing some progress, now i can see a box and a circle on my program and i can also move the box by pressing a letter on my key broad, in short i can say i am done with challenge 1,2,3,4 and 5, not forgetting i also work on my unix command and key broad thanks. | 12:07 |
| jelkner | excellent, tboimah | 12:08 |
| jelkner | unix cli is the 3rd piece of our essential skills | 12:08 |
| tboimah | okay thanks | 12:08 |
| jelkner | Kevin Cole, who will be substituting for me next week, can really help with that | 12:09 |
| jelkner | ACTION will step away for 3 minutes while he waits for the other reports to finish | 12:09 |
| scooper | It will be a pleasure interacting with Kevin Jeff...... | 12:09 |
| jelkner | brb | 12:09 |
| mulbah | Good moring jeff i'm in | 12:10 |
| mulbah | jeff i think i'm making prograss i'm done with challenge 4, 5 and 6 and i'm working on challange 7 nown and i'm also reading my vim tutor | 12:11 |
| jelkner | ACTION is waiting for mulbah to type is report | 12:11 |
| jelkner | Nice! ;-) | 12:11 |
| jelkner | Oh, a quick irc trick to learn now | 12:12 |
| jelkner | if you type "/me" without the quotes | 12:12 |
| jelkner | it will put your user name | 12:12 |
| svaye_ | Alright, I worked on the robot program,and I completed challenge 4,5,and 6. The higher I go the game get more interesting, and I also read a little bit on vim tutor. I trying to get the dosbox to work so I can continue the typing lesson. | 12:13 |
| jelkner | so when you are giving your reports you can type "/me spent 5 hours on the vim tutor, and 10 hours on Robots, and 5 on unix cli" | 12:13 |
| tboimah | "/me" | 12:13 |
| jelkner | or something like that | 12:13 |
| jelkner | tboimah: don't put quotes | 12:13 |
| jelkner | the beginning of the line should be: /me is learning to use /me | 12:13 |
| jelkner | try it | 12:14 |
| jelkner | everyone, type: /me is learning to use /me | 12:14 |
| svaye_ | ACTION is learning to use /me | 12:15 |
| dcammue | Good morning, how was your week time? Jeff, I worked on the program and the two circles can appear on the graphics window but there is a proboem I'm face with, which is the function to move the player by pressing the keys from 1_9 to move the player. but if I add challenge 4 and 5 the circle can disappear from the graphics window. why? | 12:15 |
| jelkner | dcammue: we'll get to that in agenda item 3 | 12:15 |
| jelkner | for now, just type: /me is learning to use /me | 12:15 |
| jelkner | ACTION waits for one of you to type: /me is learning to use /me | 12:16 |
| janet | ACTION is learning to use /me | 12:17 |
| dcammue | ACTION is learning to use /me | 12:17 |
| jelkner | there you go, janet and dcammue! | 12:17 |
| jelkner | and now the rest... | 12:17 |
| jelkner | you too, svaye_ | 12:17 |
| jelkner | and scooper | 12:17 |
| jelkner | and fkoikoi and mulbah | 12:18 |
| tboimah | ACTION is learning to use /me | 12:18 |
| svaye_ | ACTION is learning to use /me | 12:18 |
| jelkner | three to go... | 12:18 |
| scooper | ACTION is learniing to use /me | 12:18 |
| jelkner | two more... | 12:18 |
| mulbah | ACTION is learing to use /me | 12:18 |
| jelkner | and last but not least ;-) | 12:18 |
| tboimah | ACTION is learning to use /me | 12:19 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi: that would be you. | 12:19 |
| jelkner | tboimah went twice | 12:19 |
| jelkner | ACTION isn't sure what's holding up fkoikoi | 12:20 |
| jelkner | but we need to move on | 12:21 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION is learning to use /me | 12:21 |
| jelkner | there we go! | 12:21 |
| jelkner | excellent | 12:21 |
| jelkner | We need to learn to use our communication tool effectively | 12:21 |
| jelkner | Our goal is become quick and agile | 12:21 |
| fkoikoi | Alright | 12:21 |
| jelkner | So we spent 20 minutes today on weekly reports | 12:22 |
| jelkner | But I want to try to get that down to 5 minutes | 12:22 |
| jelkner | I know it will take some time | 12:22 |
| jelkner | but we need to make steady progress. | 12:22 |
| jelkner | Next week I won't be here | 12:22 |
| jelkner | I'll be a worker cooperative conference in Philadelphia | 12:23 |
| jelkner | https://www.conference.coop/home/ | 12:23 |
| jelkner | I'll be there with several folks I hope you will get to know in the year ahead | 12:24 |
| jelkner | I'm on the board of a non-profit organization that wants to develop worker cooperatives | 12:24 |
| jelkner | https://novalaciro.org/ | 12:24 |
| jelkner | NOVA Web Development does their website | 12:24 |
| jelkner | If you look at the team page: https://novalaciro.org/team/ | 12:25 |
| jelkner | You'll see our organizer, Johana Garray, and our Vice President, Heylin Rodriquez | 12:25 |
| jelkner | They are going to the conference with me | 12:26 |
| jelkner | So is Lorena Contreras, who is one of the 3 women who own Mujeres Manos a la Obra Cleaning Coop | 12:26 |
| jelkner | https://mujeresmanosalaobra.org/ | 12:28 |
| jelkner | NOVA Web Development does there website too | 12:28 |
| jelkner | All three of them are going to Philadelphia to the conference | 12:28 |
| jelkner | I'm really excited about it, and will report back the week after | 12:28 |
| jelkner | Kevin Cole will sub for me, so you'll get to meet him | 12:29 |
| jelkner | Keep in mind we are part of a global movement for workplace democracy | 12:29 |
| jelkner | The international organization is called the ICA: https://www.ica.coop/en | 12:29 |
| jelkner | Ok, enough on that. Let's talk 5 minutes about LittleWebster | 12:30 |
| jelkner | LittleWebster is a bot | 12:30 |
| jelkner | specifically, an irc bot | 12:30 |
| jelkner | that means it is a program we can use through irc to give commands to | 12:31 |
| jelkner | mainly adding and removing things from our weekly agenda | 12:31 |
| jelkner | I'll have more to say about that in the future. | 12:31 |
| mulbah | ok | 12:31 |
| dcammue | okay | 12:32 |
| fkoikoi | alright, thanks for the information Jeff | 12:32 |
| jelkner | Just know that each Saturday at 12 noon UTC, LittleWebster will print our agenda and report who is present at the meeting | 12:32 |
| jelkner | I want you to learn to use the web logs of our irc channel as a resource | 12:32 |
| jelkner | everything we type here automatically goes here: https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 12:33 |
| jelkner | So you can look back and see everything we discussed | 12:33 |
| jelkner | Any questions for me before I resume presenting Robots? | 12:33 |
| jelkner | OK, if there are no questions, do you want to me start presenting? (type +1 if you do) | 12:35 |
| tboimah | +1 | 12:35 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 12:35 |
| mulbah | +1 | 12:35 |
| svaye_ | +1 | 12:35 |
| dcammue | ACTION +1 | 12:35 |
| janet | +1 | 12:35 |
| jelkner | excellent! | 12:35 |
| jelkner | that's how we do a quick poll in irc | 12:36 |
| jelkner | ok, scooper, now i'll explain a bit about the video conferencing tool we used last week | 12:36 |
| jelkner | which we will use now too | 12:36 |
| scooper | +1 | 12:36 |
| jelkner | it is called Jitsi | 12:36 |
| scooper | we did use jitsi before right | 12:37 |
| scooper | but the feedback we got was bad | 12:37 |
| jelkner | whenever you see a new technology, i recommend you go right to wikipedia to check it out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi | 12:37 |
| scooper | ok | 12:37 |
| mulbah | ok sir | 12:38 |
| jelkner | We tried Big Blue Button first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BigBlueButton | 12:38 |
| jelkner | but you couldn't connect | 12:38 |
| jelkner | i think it was bandwidth issues | 12:38 |
| jelkner | both Jitsi and Big Blue Button are free software | 12:38 |
| jelkner | (or I wouldn't use them! ;-) | 12:39 |
| jelkner | Jitsi seems to use less resources | 12:39 |
| jelkner | it has another advantage too | 12:39 |
| jelkner | you can start a meeting with no account, and no login | 12:39 |
| jelkner | that's nice | 12:39 |
| jelkner | so, i'll do that now | 12:39 |
| scooper | I'm on the wiipedia and reading a brief history of jitsi | 12:39 |
| scooper | What next after reading this article? | 12:40 |
| jelkner | scooper: read the articles later | 12:40 |
| scooper | ok | 12:40 |
| jelkner | we don't want to use meeting time for that | 12:40 |
| jelkner | since it can be done when i'm not here | 12:40 |
| jelkner | ACTION points his browser at: https://meet.jit.si/ | 12:41 |
| jelkner | ACTION thinks aobut a name for todays meeting | 12:41 |
| jelkner | ACTION decides on NovaWebstersRock | 12:42 |
| jelkner | so he enters that | 12:42 |
| jelkner | and clicks start meeting | 12:42 |
| jelkner | now scooper, and *only* scooper should join https://meet.jit.si/NovaWebstersRock | 12:42 |
| scooper | it is still reading Jeff, when done I will give you a hint | 12:43 |
| jelkner | you won't need to | 12:43 |
| jelkner | i'll see you in the meeting | 12:43 |
| jelkner | tboimah joined then quit | 12:44 |
| jelkner | i don't care which of you join | 12:44 |
| jelkner | but only one of you should | 12:45 |
| jelkner | and the others should gather around their computer once they connect | 12:45 |
| mulbah | we are not geting you | 12:46 |
| jelkner | We may not have enough bandwidth to make video work | 12:46 |
| jelkner | We can try again with audio only | 12:47 |
| jelkner | we don't need video | 12:47 |
| jelkner | we need audio and screen share | 12:47 |
| mulbah | okay sir | 12:47 |
| jelkner | i turned off my video | 12:47 |
| jelkner | try to connect again | 12:47 |
| jelkner | do not try the projector | 12:48 |
| jelkner | it doesn't have enough screen resolution for my presenation | 12:48 |
| jelkner | we need a laptop screen | 12:48 |
| jelkner | you should position it so all of you can see it | 12:49 |
| scooper | we use this project last saturday jeff | 12:49 |
| scooper | it is was good | 12:49 |
| jelkner | ok, you know better than me | 12:49 |
| jelkner | but we are using a lot of time setting up | 12:49 |
| scooper | We use this project last saturday it was great | 12:49 |
| jelkner | we only have 2 hours | 12:49 |
| jelkner | never mind then, scooper | 12:49 |
| jelkner | you're in charge | 12:49 |
| jelkner | do what you want, but do it quickly please ;-) | 12:50 |
| scooper | we will try thomas computer mine is taking too lost to reach the site | 12:50 |
| jelkner | can you hear me? | 12:52 |
| jelkner | scooper: i am here | 12:57 |
| jelkner | but this doesn't seem to be working | 12:57 |
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| jelkner | hello everyone | 12:58 |
| jelkner | what i don't want to do is to spend 2 hours each week trying to connect | 12:58 |
| jelkner | it is both frustrating and a waste of time | 12:58 |
| jelkner | the reason i chose irc as our main communcation channel is that it works! | 12:58 |
| jelkner | we don't have connection problems | 12:58 |
| jelkner | and we can spend our limited time communicating and learning instead of messing with broken tech | 12:59 |
| jelkner | scooper: are you seeing this? | 13:00 |
| jelkner | let's give up with video | 13:00 |
| jelkner | and audio | 13:00 |
| jelkner | they don't work well enough | 13:00 |
| jelkner | this does | 13:00 |
| jelkner | i have another plan | 13:00 |
| jelkner | are you all ready? | 13:00 |
| svaye_ | Are you going to text | 13:01 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:01 |
| jelkner | yes, svaye_ | 13:01 |
| mulbah | +1 | 13:01 |
| jelkner | we need reliable communication | 13:01 |
| scooper | I m ready now jeff | 13:01 |
| jelkner | i know how we can make this work | 13:01 |
| dcammue | +1 | 13:01 |
| scooper | Jitsi is set | 13:01 |
| jelkner | scooper: what do you mean? | 13:01 |
| scooper | Jitsi is connecting now | 13:02 |
| jelkner | i'll try to rejoin | 13:02 |
| jelkner | but only one more time | 13:02 |
| scooper | I want you go to jitsi so we can connect | 13:02 |
| scooper | +1 | 13:02 |
| jelkner | scooper: let's stop | 13:03 |
| jelkner | with jitsi | 13:03 |
| jelkner | it isn't reliable enough | 13:03 |
| scooper | try me on jitsi jeff | 13:04 |
| jelkner | it did, scooper it didn't work | 13:04 |
| jelkner | we have less than an hour left | 13:04 |
| scooper | it will work is just that i notice too many people were connect at once | 13:04 |
| jelkner | scooper: *only 1 of you should connect*! | 13:05 |
| jelkner | The idea was one person there would connect with me. | 13:05 |
| jelkner | *only 1*! | 13:05 |
| jelkner | if you have more than one, there will be feedback | 13:05 |
| jelkner | and it won't work | 13:05 |
| scooper | I told them to quite already | 13:06 |
| scooper | I m on the only person connected right now | 13:06 |
| jelkner | ok, last time, i mean it | 13:06 |
| scooper | only | 13:06 |
| jelkner | i'll try to connect | 13:06 |
| jelkner | i'm in the meeting now | 13:07 |
| jelkner | but i'm alone | 13:07 |
| fkoikoi | no Jeff, we are here | 13:08 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi: what do you mean "we are here" | 13:09 |
| *** dcammue has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | 13:12 | |
| *** svaye_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | 13:12 | |
| scooper | I m seeing your screen but the feedback is very back | 13:13 |
| scooper | bad | 13:13 |
| jelkner | everyone, i don't want to do this anymore | 13:13 |
| jelkner | let's stop | 13:13 |
| jelkner | we need reliable communication | 13:13 |
| jelkner | irc is it | 13:13 |
| jelkner | we need to learn to use this | 13:13 |
| scooper | I m seeing your screen but the feedback is very bad | 13:13 |
| jelkner | forget about screen share | 13:13 |
| jelkner | it isn't working | 13:13 |
| jelkner | we don't have enough bandwidth | 13:13 |
| scooper | What next jeff | 13:13 |
| jelkner | get everyone back here | 13:13 |
| jelkner | i see fkoikoi janet mulbah tboimah | 13:14 |
| jelkner | so shallon and daniel aren't here | 13:14 |
| scooper | They are here | 13:14 |
| jelkner | not in this channel | 13:15 |
| scooper | I just notice it as well | 13:15 |
| jelkner | ok, i am going to start | 13:15 |
| scooper | it's due to the internet I sure of that | 13:15 |
| scooper | From here or Jitsi | 13:15 |
| jelkner | we are not going to use jitsi | 13:15 |
| jelkner | scooper: irc only | 13:15 |
| jelkner | it works | 13:15 |
| jelkner | dcammue is back | 13:16 |
| jelkner | only missing Shallon now | 13:16 |
| dcammue | +1 | 13:16 |
| jelkner | ok let me teach you how the workflow will go | 13:16 |
| scooper | SHe trying to reconnect | 13:16 |
| jelkner | there you go svaye | 13:16 |
| jelkner | great we are all here | 13:16 |
| jelkner | ok, we will need two programs | 13:17 |
| jelkner | hexchat for chatting | 13:17 |
| jelkner | and your web browswer to see the code | 13:17 |
| jelkner | point your browsers here: https://codeberg.org/jelkner/mcssnovawebsters | 13:18 |
| scooper | Everyone right | 13:18 |
| jelkner | you can then click on robots.py | 13:19 |
| jelkner | which will load this page: https://codeberg.org/jelkner/mcssnovawebsters/src/branch/main/robots.py | 13:19 |
| jelkner | can everyone see my robots.py source code? | 13:21 |
| jelkner | (use +1 if you can) | 13:21 |
| fkoikoi | it's still loading | 13:21 |
| tboimah | it's still loading jeff | 13:22 |
| jelkner | that is bad news | 13:22 |
| jelkner | your connection must be really bad | 13:22 |
| jelkner | if web pages won't load | 13:22 |
| janet | still loading jeff | 13:23 |
| tboimah | now i am connected jeff | 13:23 |
| mulbah | +1 the connection is very bad | 13:24 |
| janet | now am connected | 13:24 |
| svaye | I am on the page | 13:24 |
| jelkner | ok | 13:24 |
| jelkner | another question, type +1 if you saw the email i sent on Thursday to your nova web email address | 13:25 |
| scooper | +1 | 13:25 |
| svaye | +1 | 13:26 |
| tboimah | +1 | 13:26 |
| fkoikoi | -1 | 13:26 |
| mulbah | +1 | 13:26 |
| janet | +1 | 13:26 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi: work with scooper to fix that | 13:26 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 13:26 |
| jelkner | so here we are, technologists working to solve a technical challenge | 13:27 |
| jelkner | that's what we do | 13:27 |
| jelkner | our situation is that we need: | 13:27 |
| jelkner | 1. synchronous communication | 13:27 |
| jelkner | 2. asynchronous communication | 13:27 |
| jelkner | it is also the case that bandwidth there is a big challenge | 13:28 |
| jelkner | it is unreliable and very limited | 13:28 |
| jelkner | so, we taking that reality into account | 13:28 |
| fkoikoi | I am now on the mcssnovawebsters /robots.py | 13:28 |
| jelkner | our solution must give us the two kinds of communication we need, and use very little bandwidth | 13:28 |
| jelkner | for synchronous communcation, irc is the answer | 13:29 |
| jelkner | we can see how well it works | 13:29 |
| jelkner | it's a 1980s technology | 13:29 |
| jelkner | so it is rock solid reliable and uses *very* little bandwidth | 13:29 |
| jelkner | for asynchronous communication, let's use our nova web email | 13:29 |
| jelkner | and we can also use irc too | 13:29 |
| jelkner | since everything is logged | 13:30 |
| jelkner | so for public communication, use irc | 13:30 |
| jelkner | for private messages use email | 13:30 |
| jelkner | does that make sense to you (+1 if yes) | 13:30 |
| tboimah | +1 | 13:30 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 13:30 |
| svaye | +1 | 13:30 |
| janet | +! | 13:30 |
| jelkner | nice, you're all getting quick at this, great! | 13:31 |
| jelkner | although we're still waiting to hear from dcammue and mulbah | 13:31 |
| dcammue | +1 | 13:31 |
| mulbah | +1 | 13:32 |
| jelkner | i need a way to share source code with you while we are learning together | 13:32 |
| jelkner | i have one other tool we can try for that | 13:32 |
| jelkner | it's called paste bin | 13:32 |
| jelkner | let me try that now | 13:32 |
| mulbah | ok | 13:32 |
| svaye | Alright | 13:33 |
| tboimah | we are waiting. | 13:33 |
| jelkner | https://pastebin.com/9mSuhCbH | 13:33 |
| jelkner | take a look at that in your browser | 13:33 |
| jelkner | hopefully, it will load faster | 13:33 |
| tboimah | okay sir | 13:34 |
| jelkner | tboimah: it worked? | 13:34 |
| tboimah | +1 | 13:34 |
| jelkner | what about your teammates? | 13:35 |
| jelkner | can they see it too? | 13:35 |
| svaye | +1 | 13:35 |
| svaye | +1 | 13:35 |
| janet | +1 | 13:35 |
| tboimah | some of them are done. | 13:35 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 13:35 |
| jelkner | dcammue, mulbah? | 13:36 |
| dcammue | +1 Jeff it works. | 13:36 |
| jelkner | ok, great | 13:36 |
| mulbah | +1 | 13:36 |
| jelkner | so i am now going to write challenge 5 | 13:36 |
| jelkner | i'll commit it to my git repo | 13:36 |
| jelkner | and then paste it here | 13:36 |
| jelkner | we will probably only have time for that | 13:36 |
| jelkner | i'm going to need to make a change, too | 13:37 |
| jelkner | i'm on a laptop that doesn't have a number keypad | 13:37 |
| jelkner | so the plan of using the numbers to move around won't work | 13:37 |
| jelkner | instead, i'm going to start by just using the vim keys: h, j, k, and l | 13:37 |
| jelkner | we will need diagonal motion too, but i'll think about that next | 13:38 |
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| tboimah | okay | 13:38 |
| jelkner | so my task is going to be to get the player to move left on h, up on j, down on k, and to the right on l | 13:38 |
| jelkner | give me 5 minutes to write that... | 13:39 |
| tboimah | okay sir. | 13:39 |
| jelkner | you can talk among yourselves while you wait | 13:39 |
| tboimah | sure | 13:39 |
| dcammue | ok | 13:40 |
| svaye | Alright | 13:40 |
| fkoikoi | alright | 13:40 |
| jelkner | ok, i'm done | 13:50 |
| jelkner | https://codeberg.org/jelkner/mcssnovawebsters/src/branch/main/robots.py | 13:50 |
| jelkner | is where you can look later | 13:50 |
| jelkner | for my commit | 13:50 |
| jelkner | but i'll put it in pastebin again now so it will load | 13:50 |
| jelkner | https://pastebin.com/Y9sdAYEu | 13:52 |
| jelkner | we only have 8 minutes left | 13:52 |
| jelkner | so let's make sure you can all get this new version, and try it out on your machines | 13:52 |
| jelkner | it will put a Circle (player_shape) on the screen | 13:52 |
| jelkner | and let you use h to move left, j to move down, k to move up, and l to move right | 13:54 |
| jelkner | you should study this program this week post a question in irc if you don't understand it | 13:54 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 13:55 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi: +1 ;-) | 13:55 |
| svaye | +1 | 13:55 |
| jelkner | everyone else please confirm | 13:56 |
| tboimah | +1 | 13:56 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 13:56 |
| jelkner | three more | 13:56 |
| jelkner | mulbah, janet, dcammue? | 13:57 |
| mulbah | +1 | 13:58 |
| jelkner | janet, dcammue? | 13:58 |
| jelkner | ok, while we wait for janet and dcammue, let me sum up | 13:59 |
| jelkner | we made a lot of progress with irc today, that's good! | 13:59 |
| dcammue | +1 Jeff | 13:59 |
| jelkner | we had bandwidth troubles trying to use jitsi, that's bad, but we need to work around it | 13:59 |
| janet | +1 | 13:59 |
| jelkner | janet? | 13:59 |
| jelkner | next week Kevin Cole will be here | 14:00 |
| jelkner | he may want to work with scooper during the week to see if he can get Jitsi working better | 14:00 |
| jelkner | or he may not | 14:00 |
| jelkner | I'll leave that up to him | 14:00 |
| jelkner | when we meet again in two weeks, i will expect all of you to understand the code i just pasted | 14:01 |
| jelkner | and to be able to explain how it works to move the player around the screen | 14:01 |
| jelkner | if you don't understand it, talk to each other, and message me on irc | 14:01 |
| jelkner | see you in 2 weeks | 14:01 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 14:01 |
| jelkner | and be good to Kevin Cole! | 14:01 |
| svaye | +1 | 14:01 |
| jelkner | see you soon MCSS NOVA Websters! | 14:02 |
| tboimah | okay | 14:02 |
| dcammue | +1 | 14:02 |
| janet | Alright | 14:02 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day/ | 14:02 |
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| *** fkoikoi has quit (Quit: Leaving) | 14:05 | |
| *** scooper has quit (Quit: Leaving) | 14:11 | |
| *** svaye has quit (Quit: Leaving) | 14:15 | |
| *** tboimah has quit (Quit: Leaving) | 14:16 | |
| *** mulbah has quit (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) | 14:25 | |
| *** janet has quit (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) | 14:25 | |
| *** dcammue has quit (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) | 14:25 | |
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