IRC log of #novawebdev for Wednesday, 2022-12-28

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jelknerGood say, scooper.12:32
jelknerI'm available to meet today if you have time.12:32
jelknerI'll check back on the hour for the next 3 hours: 1 pm, 2 pm, and 3 pm your time.12:32
scooperHello Jeff14:13
jelknerHello scooper 14:22
jelknerI'm glad I checked back.14:22
jelknerI'm busy studying, trying to learn assembly language programming.14:23
jelknerAre you here now?14:23
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jelknerscooper: are you here?14:33
scooperBeen here ever since14:33
jelknerI'm in Puerto Rico14:33
jelknerThe power went off, and I lost my connection.14:33
scooperjust your private message on irc14:33
jelknerSince we both are in places with connection troubles, email is probably the best way to communicate14:33
scooperhahaha enjoy your vacation14:33
jelkneri am enjoying my vacation!14:33
scooperOK14:34
scooperI m enjoying my too14:34
scooperlearning new things14:34
jelkneryesterday we went a town, Adjunta, that is installing solar power all over the town.14:34
jelkneri made some contacts14:34
scooperOK14:34
scooperSound good14:35
jelkneri keep thinking about our need to build a small school that has solar power in Monrovia14:35
jelknerthat is the only way we can get reliable, sustainable power14:35
jelkneri'll keep looking into that, and talk with the Supe when i see him14:35
jelkneranyway, you called this meeting, what do you need?14:35
scooperSure, but current seem stable since I came on vacation14:36
jelknergreat14:36
jelknerso, what did you want to meet about today?14:36
scooperOne we shouldn't tell the interns to stay back for now14:37
jelknerwhat do you mean?14:37
jelknerAre you saying we can meet on Saturdays?14:38
scooperYour last message you informed me that you want the interns to wait until they all graduate right14:38
scooperMy advice is that we shouldn't do that14:38
jelknerCan we meet on Saturdays?14:39
jelknerIf not, we can't meet.14:39
scooperProgramming is all about passionate14:39
scooperYEs14:39
scooperYes we can14:39
jelknerHow?14:39
jelknerI thought the generator was dead.14:39
scooperYes14:39
jelknerI am happy to keep meeting on Saturdays.14:39
jelknerBut only if everyone can connect reliably.14:39
jelknerI am *very* busy.14:40
scooperBut it's time I too in provide14:40
scooperTo keep this dream alive14:40
jelknerI was thinking we could set aside $50 each month for the purchase of a new generator14:40
jelknerOh, don't worry about that, my dear friend, the dream is very much alive!14:40
jelknerTo keep moving forward, we need to keep learning from our experience and make adjustments.14:41
scooperWe need a minimum of 80 to repair that generator14:41
jelknerLike I've said many times, we have been moving to slowly to reach our goals.14:41
jelknerWe have been moving, and I am very happy about that, but too slowly.14:41
jelknerI want to focus for the next term on Freena, Jallah, and you.14:42
jelknerSince UoPeople will speed things up.14:42
scooperWe need to pick those who are really passionate about learning this thing14:42
jelkneryes14:42
jelknerand we need so *see* that they are passionate by:14:42
jelkner1. The commits they make to their git repos14:43
jelkner2. The level of thoughful questions they ask indicating they did a lot of study on their own.14:43
jelknerThose are the two things i look for14:43
scooperSure14:43
jelknerHow can you connect on Saturday without a generator?14:44
scooperWhat are see here is that Thomas , Jallah and see serious about this14:44
scooperThe generator can be repair Jeff14:44
jelknerOK, like i said many times, you all have a budget of $650 per month14:45
scooperMore over that generator is really economical. I Use a minimum of 5 gallon a month14:45
jelknerpart of seeing how serious everyone is will be how well you can share that budget14:45
jelknerWe must pay for classes for you, Jallah, and Freena14:46
scooperservicing and putting of oil14:46
jelknerI want Jallah and Freena to take two classes14:46
jelkneryou will be taking one14:46
jelknerthat is 5 * 60 = $30014:46
jelknerthis month14:46
jelknerthat leaves $350 to fix the generator, buy fuel, and pay for transportation to the MCSS office14:47
jelkneri'll be sending you that when i get paid on Friday14:47
jelknerSo you can tell me, my friend.14:47
jelknerIf you say we meet, we meet.14:47
jelknerI am available14:47
jelknerJust tell me to show up.14:47
jelknerBut I want you all to be there.14:47
scooperI want us meet 14:48
jelknerGreat!14:48
jelknerI do too.14:48
scooperI got a surprise for you Jeff14:48
jelknerdo tell ;-)14:48
scooperI understand 75 percent of the Django now14:49
jelknerNice!14:49
scooperDuring this vacatin this what I been living on since my family I not around to disturb me14:49
jelknerWhen you are ready, what we need to do is get you, Adrian, Antonio, and Luke to talk about plans for our LibreOrganize customers.14:50
jelknerLoL14:50
scooperI want you to please check Heroku14:50
jelknerWhat do you mean?14:50
jelknerI know about Heroku.14:50
jelknerIt is a web hosting platform.14:50
scooperYEs14:50
scooperWith good CL 14:51
jelknerCL?14:51
scooperYes14:51
jelknerWhat is CL?14:51
scooperThat make it's easy to deploy your site on their platform once you have an account14:51
scooperCommand line14:51
jelkneroh, cool.14:51
scooperJust how you upload project in github it's almost the same with them14:52
scooperThey are base in America, Califorina14:52
jelknerYou should talk to Adrian about it, but they told me it was cheaper for us to host our own servers.14:52
scooperI send you the link14:53
jelknerno, scooper 14:53
jelknerno need14:53
jelknerplease understand14:53
scooperIt in irc14:53
jelknerthat to make this work, i need to stay in my lane14:53
scooperOK14:53
jelkneri'm a project manager, not a developer14:53
scooperOK14:54
jelkneri can't be responsible for figuring out how we deploy things14:54
scooperI will share with Aaron and Adrian for their views14:54
jelkner+114:54
jelknerand Toby too14:54
jelknerExcellent!14:54
scooperJeff14:54
jelknerWhat i do, scooper, is meet with the team and help us all decided together what we do14:55
jelknerit will help for you to learn that too14:55
scooperThanks alot you have encourage me to continue to do more14:55
jelkneryou can't do everything yourself14:55
jelknerso you need to know who can do what14:55
jelknerand work with me to help guide the overall process14:55
jelknerit is great that for now you pick the stuff you want to learn14:56
jelknerand particpate in that14:56
jelknerbut we need a team to develop over there14:56
jelknernot just you14:56
scooperI will keep learning Python still I'm 100% good14:56
jelknergreat14:56
jelkneryou can help Freena and Jallah with that when they get to that class.14:57
jelknerWhich they will soon14:57
scooperThis is not all about you but it will also transform the living condition of my family14:57
jelknerUoPeople has an *excellent* A.S. program14:57
jelknerOf course it is, scooper 14:57
scooperThe first term was really stuff for me14:57
jelknerYou want to have a better life14:58
jelknerthat is the purpose14:58
jelknerfor all of us14:58
jelknerthere is enough wealth in the world now that *no one* should be lacking basic needs14:58
jelknerin my view, we have an evil economic system14:58
jelknerthat robs from most of us, and gives to the few14:59
jelknerbut my goal is that all of us have what we need to live full, productive, creative lives!14:59
jelknerthat's why i'm studying business15:00
jelknerso we can figure out how to start a business that will support you and the other members, and your families15:00
jelknerthe best thing is that the skills you are learning will pay off15:01
scooperWhat are notice in my country most IT personal done know programming15:01
scoopersure15:01
jelknera few do15:01
scooperJust a few Jeff15:01
jelknerso there is a great need15:02
jelknerwhat happens now is that a few people come in, mostly from India and Lebonon it seems, and start businesses15:02
jelknerso they get the wealth, not the workers in Liberia15:02
jelknerI'm hoping we can start a worker owned business in which all workers are owners15:03
scooperSo true15:03
jelknerso those that produce the wealth get to share it15:03
scooperExample is the IT school call BlueCrest15:03
scooperThey are very expensive15:03
jelknerright15:03
jelknerUoPeople is better15:03
jelknerand cheaper15:03
scooperfar better 15:04
scoopermost cheaper15:04
scoopermore cheaper15:04
jelknerSo we found a path forward15:04
jelknerok, i need to get back to studying, my friend15:04
jelknerdo you need anything else?15:04
scooperBut it's really challenges15:04
scooperNO15:04
jelknerI'll plan on meeting with you on Saturday, January 7th15:04
jelknerplease tell everyone15:04
jelknerbut let me know if you can't do it15:04
scooperConsider it done15:05
jelknerSweet!15:05
jelknerHappy New Year!15:05
scooperSame to you too15:05
scoopermy regards to your wife15:05
jelknerand to yours15:05
scooperok15:05
jelknermine is sitting near me now15:05
jelknerso i just told her15:05
scooperHahaha please tell her Spencer say hi15:06
jelknershe wants to know how the baby is doing?15:06
scoopermy is far from me15:06
scooperShe is  good15:06
scooperJeff15:06
jelknergreat15:06
scooperI think you need to take one of my kid15:06
jelknerLoL15:06
jelknerI want them to visit me.15:06
scooperSince you done have a girl15:06
jelknerWhen they are bigger.15:06
jelknerLoL15:07
jelknerMy wife smiled ;-)15:07
jelknerOk, back to work for me15:07
scooperOK 15:07
jelknerLet's talk early in the New Year.15:07
scooperOK JEFF15:07
jelknerACTION signs off15:07
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