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| jelkner | scooper, so good to see you sir! | 14:24 |
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| scooper | Hello Jeff | 14:24 |
| scooper | HOw are you doing | 14:24 |
| jelkner | Did you see my email this morning? | 14:24 |
| jelkner | Thanks for yours, btw. | 14:24 |
| scooper | COncerning Stephen?? | 14:24 |
| jelkner | +1 | 14:24 |
| scooper | Yes... I responded to Stephen as well | 14:25 |
| jelkner | It's going to be hard for Stephen to coordinate times with us | 14:25 |
| jelkner | he is in California | 14:25 |
| scooper | But he did mentioned of saturday | 14:25 |
| scooper | being available whole day | 14:26 |
| scooper | welcome tmickelson | 14:26 |
| tmickelson | hello scooper | 14:28 |
| scooper | HOw are you doing???? | 14:28 |
| jelkner | he is 8 hours behind you | 14:28 |
| scooper | hmmm asked him through my mail this morning to be exact if you can meet this coming saturday or any other saturday he think will be ok for him since he stay in school from 8-5 monday to friday | 14:30 |
| jelkner | 8 am your time, scooper, is midnight his time | 14:32 |
| scooper | I asked him through my mail this morning to be exact if we can meet on Hexchat this coming Saturday or any other Saturday he think will be ok for him since he stay in school from 8:00am to 5:00pm Monday to Friday | 14:32 |
| jelkner | we need to keep this simple | 14:32 |
| jelkner | look at my email | 14:32 |
| jelkner | since Tanaka is in Zimbabwe | 14:33 |
| jelkner | he is 2 hours behind you | 14:34 |
| jelkner | wait, i'm getting mixed up | 14:34 |
| jelkner | time zones make my head explode :-( | 14:34 |
| jelkner | i'll stick with UTC | 14:35 |
| jelkner | when we meet a 1 pm UTC | 14:35 |
| scooper | I m going through your mail Jeff | 14:35 |
| jelkner | it is 5 am for Dr. Hubbard | 14:35 |
| jelkner | not sure he wants to get up that early | 14:35 |
| jelkner | and it is 3 pm for Tanaka | 14:35 |
| jelkner | which should be ok | 14:36 |
| jelkner | it is really Tanaka who is our customer | 14:36 |
| jelkner | so we need him at the meeting | 14:36 |
| jelkner | dr. hubbard can check the logs and see what we discussed | 14:36 |
| scooper | I read this mail before Jeff | 14:36 |
| scooper | This project will need django from the from what I m seeing Jeff | 14:37 |
| jelkner | in the long term, scooper, yes. | 14:38 |
| jelkner | it will need to be a web application | 14:38 |
| jelkner | but for now, it will be a static site | 14:38 |
| jelkner | we need to map the solution to both the problem and our available resources | 14:38 |
| scooper | Jeff | 14:39 |
| jelkner | the first task of the web team is to take Tanaka's pdf and convert it to nice looking website | 14:39 |
| jelkner | that's all | 14:39 |
| scooper | The Project is asking for people to POst what this know about the IAP | 14:39 |
| jelkner | Yes, scooper, i understand that | 14:39 |
| scooper | You need in your communication | 14:39 |
| jelkner | i don't think you understand me | 14:39 |
| jelkner | we are volunteers | 14:39 |
| jelkner | we do what we can | 14:39 |
| scooper | Got you | 14:40 |
| jelkner | none of the 5 people in the web team can create a web application with a backend | 14:40 |
| jelkner | remember, we are volunteers | 14:40 |
| jelkner | and learning goals are very important for us | 14:40 |
| scooper | I want to give this project a try JEff | 14:40 |
| jelkner | scooper, that sounds great | 14:41 |
| jelkner | but please hold off | 14:41 |
| jelkner | let me explain | 14:41 |
| jelkner | i want: | 14:41 |
| scooper | Making it like a block post | 14:41 |
| jelkner | 1. this be done by Anna, Shallon, Danayit, Daniel, and Ashley | 14:42 |
| jelkner | 2. it to cost us nothing but time, at least for now | 14:42 |
| jelkner | as soon as you talk about a web application, it will cost money to host it | 14:43 |
| jelkner | who will pay the bill for that? | 14:43 |
| jelkner | a static website we can put on github pages for now | 14:43 |
| jelkner | and it won't cost us anything | 14:43 |
| jelkner | i would strongly encourage *you*, scooper, to set up development environments in the lab for you experiments with this project | 14:44 |
| jelkner | then you can have a git repo with the code | 14:44 |
| jelkner | that others can run on their local servers | 14:44 |
| jelkner | then we don't need to worry about hosting fees | 14:44 |
| jelkner | do you understand, scooper? | 14:46 |
| scooper | I m following your instructions Jeff | 14:46 |
| jelkner | no, that's not what i'm asking for | 14:46 |
| scooper | Yes I understand | 14:46 |
| jelkner | you and i are the project managers, but i'm old, and have more experience | 14:47 |
| jelkner | i love your enthusiasm | 14:47 |
| jelkner | we need that! | 14:47 |
| jelkner | but you often don't think about the problems that will come up | 14:47 |
| jelkner | since you don't have experience with that yet | 14:47 |
| jelkner | we want to get to where you are heading | 14:48 |
| jelkner | but there are many steps along the way | 14:48 |
| jelkner | we start small | 14:48 |
| jelkner | with deliverables we can manage | 14:48 |
| jelkner | for example, my friend | 14:48 |
| jelkner | i haven't seen an email from svaye recently | 14:48 |
| jelkner | we need that | 14:49 |
| jelkner | and it is your task to remind her to do it ;-) | 14:49 |
| scooper | I did Jeff | 14:49 |
| scooper | I think I need to be present while she is mailing you | 14:49 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking that svaya on your end, and anna litwiller on my end | 14:50 |
| jelkner | should be in the lead | 14:50 |
| jelkner | let's let them coordinate this | 14:50 |
| jelkner | not us | 14:50 |
| jelkner | we need to train leaders | 14:50 |
| jelkner | not do all that ourselves | 14:50 |
| jelkner | we can't create a cooperative without lots of leaders | 14:51 |
| scooper | I give both of them the instruction that was given to me by you Jeff | 14:51 |
| jelkner | sweet | 14:51 |
| jelkner | ok, then we wait | 14:51 |
| jelkner | don't move too fast | 14:51 |
| jelkner | it is more important that they be trusted to lead this | 14:51 |
| jelkner | you and me need to help | 14:51 |
| jelkner | not take control of it | 14:51 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 14:51 |
| scooper | Yes Jeff | 14:52 |
| jelkner | i'm hoping that savaye can very excitedly report on this at her summary on saturday | 14:52 |
| jelkner | telling us how she helped lead the team to start getting to know each other | 14:52 |
| jelkner | and to begin setting up the project | 14:52 |
| jelkner | that's what we need | 14:53 |
| jelkner | ok, please enourage svaye to see if she can get Tanaka to join us sometime during our meeting this saturday | 14:53 |
| jelkner | between 1 an 3 pm UTC | 14:53 |
| jelkner | we will schedule everything else around that | 14:54 |
| scooper | I will Jeff | 14:54 |
| jelkner | so i won't post an agenda until we know if he can do it | 14:54 |
| jelkner | great | 14:54 |
| jelkner | now, regarding your Django dreams, my friend ;-) | 14:54 |
| jelkner | you and tmickelson should coordinate the learning around that | 14:55 |
| jelkner | in the lab, you could set up a WSGI server | 14:55 |
| jelkner | and tmickelson could do the same here | 14:55 |
| jelkner | so that you both learn to deploy Django | 14:55 |
| jelkner | you already know it requires two servers | 14:55 |
| jelkner | an HTTPS server, and a WSGI server | 14:56 |
| jelkner | gunicorn is the standard WSGI server i think | 14:56 |
| jelkner | but tmickelson can consult with thehedgeh0g | 14:56 |
| jelkner | and come up with a plan | 14:56 |
| scooper | I will be so glad if this happen Jeff | 14:56 |
| jelkner | the combination gnuicorn + nginx is what i've seen most often | 14:57 |
| jelkner | but thehedgeh0g like caddy | 14:57 |
| jelkner | and caddy is a huge help in that is autorenews ssl certificates | 14:57 |
| jelkner | which is a huge pain | 14:57 |
| jelkner | so that is a conversation you 3 need to have | 14:59 |
| jelkner | bell rang | 14:59 |
| jelkner | gotta run | 14:59 |
| jelkner | let's talk tomorrow | 14:59 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 14:59 |
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