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| jelkner | Good afternoon dcammue, fkoikoi, janet, scooper, and tboimah! | 12:32 |
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| jelkner | !agenda | 12:32 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 12:32 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss Summer schedule (10 min). (added by jelkner) | 12:32 |
| LittleWebster | How to setup Class/homework on github (added by fkoikoi) | 12:32 |
| LittleWebster | Discussion on the trial test in August (15min) (added by fkoikoi) | 12:32 |
| tboimah | I am Good and you | 12:32 |
| dcammue | Good morning Jeff | 12:33 |
| janet | Hi Jeff | 12:33 |
| jelkner | dcammue, how is your CIW study going? | 12:33 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning | 12:33 |
| dcammue | well | 12:33 |
| mulbah | Good morning Jeff | 12:35 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon, mulbah | 12:35 |
| mulbah | How are you doing | 12:35 |
| jelkner | getting ready for a busy day, mulbah | 12:35 |
| jelkner | kevin and i will be meeting with the guy who builds schools this afternoon | 12:36 |
| jelkner | i'm hoping to have news about our project to share with you all after that | 12:36 |
| jelkner | dcammue, remind me to talk to you and svaye about how to use the curriculum when she gets here | 12:37 |
| dcammue | okay Jeff | 12:38 |
| fkoikoi | Jeff | 12:49 |
| svaye | Good morning Jeff | 12:49 |
| dcammue | Jeff, svaye is here now. Can you talk to us about the curriculum? | 12:50 |
| dcammue | about how to use the curriculum? | 12:51 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:51 |
| dcammue | Thanks | 12:52 |
| jelkner | i can monitor your progress through the web application as your teacher | 12:52 |
| jelkner | there are three things you need to complete before you are ready to take the quiz for a given lesson: | 12:52 |
| jelkner | 1. Reading | 12:52 |
| jelkner | 2. Flashcards | 12:53 |
| jelkner | 3. Knowledge check | 12:53 |
| jelkner | i can see that svaye has been doing the flash cards | 12:53 |
| jelkner | but you have not, dcammue | 12:53 |
| jelkner | and neither of you have completed any knowledge checks | 12:53 |
| dcammue | what is that flashcards? | 12:54 |
| jelkner | svaye can show you | 12:54 |
| dcammue | ok | 12:54 |
| jelkner | since i can tell that she found them | 12:54 |
| jelkner | we are going to meet at 11 am each weekday, yes? | 12:55 |
| svaye | How can I do the knowledge checks Jeff? | 12:55 |
| jelkner | svaye, the knowledge checks are the interactive exercises in the lesson | 12:55 |
| jelkner | sometimes they are drag-and-drop | 12:56 |
| jelkner | sometimes they are matching | 12:56 |
| svaye | I did two already | 12:56 |
| jelkner | hmmm.. | 12:56 |
| dcammue | I started doing that also | 12:56 |
| jelkner | you have to click the "Submit" button | 12:56 |
| jelkner | you should see immediate feedback when you do | 12:56 |
| jelkner | correct answers will be green and incorrect ones red | 12:57 |
| svaye | but the internet was bad that day so it continue stopping | 12:57 |
| dcammue | okay | 12:57 |
| svaye | I will do it again | 12:57 |
| jelkner | yes, please do | 12:57 |
| svaye | Okay Jeff | 12:57 |
| LittleWebster | tboimah : thehedgeh0g : scooper : jelkner : svaye : mulbah : janet : fkoikoi : dcammue | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | Tick Tock! | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | It's 13:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting. | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for today: | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss Summer schedule (10 min). (added by jelkner) | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | How to setup Class/homework on github (added by fkoikoi) | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | Discussion on the trial test in August (15min) (added by fkoikoi) | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | Have a nice day, Websters! | 13:00 |
| jelkner | well, fkoikoi, what are you waiting for? | 13:01 |
| scooper | Good morning Jeff | 13:01 |
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| fkoikoi | the first item on our agenda is to discuss summer class schedule which will be done by Jeff | 13:02 |
| fkoikoi | Jeff, will shmohamud be with us today? | 13:03 |
| jelkner | ok, all i really need to confirm is that i am meeting with the web group at 11 am Monday to Thursday | 13:03 |
| jelkner | i can't meet on Monday | 13:03 |
| jelkner | next week | 13:03 |
| jelkner | since it is my first day of class and i have to go in early | 13:03 |
| jelkner | but starting Tuesday, i'll meet with svaye and dcammue at 11 am your time (7 am my time) | 13:04 |
| jelkner | is that correct svaye and dcammue? | 13:04 |
| svaye | Correct Jeff | 13:04 |
| scooper | How long will it last for Jeff??? | 13:04 |
| jelkner | i have to leave by 12 noon your time | 13:04 |
| jelkner | so i can get to school by 1 pm your time | 13:05 |
| scooper | ok | 13:05 |
| jelkner | so i can be on for up to 1 hour | 13:05 |
| jelkner | but i bet it usually won't take that much time | 13:05 |
| jelkner | i will be there to answer questions svaye and dcammue have with the online course they are doing | 13:05 |
| scooper | What about the Sysadmin team went will they be online??? | 13:05 |
| jelkner | why are you asking me, scooper? | 13:06 |
| jelkner | that's not my responsibility | 13:06 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 13:06 |
| mulbah | Jeff Mr. Cole said that he will not be meeting with us this Friday | 13:06 |
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| scooper | I know my reason Jeff, there are few thing I will like to mention | 13:07 |
| scooper | can I proceed fkoikoi?? | 13:07 |
| fkoikoi | sure scooper | 13:07 |
| scooper | Thanks | 13:07 |
| scooper | Cole is meeting with the sysadmin by 1:00 am I m correct thomas and mulbah??? | 13:08 |
| mulbah | Yeah | 13:08 |
| tboimah | +1 | 13:09 |
| scooper | I thinking how can we figure this out to avoid conflict on the IRC | 13:09 |
| mulbah | but he said only Monday he will be meeting with us this coming week | 13:09 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning shmohamud | 13:09 |
| scooper | Sahnun meet with us Monday till Friday 1:00pm | 13:10 |
| shmohamud | good day fkoikoi | 13:10 |
| jelkner | svaye and dcammue, take a look at this: https://students.gctaa.net/jelkner/svaye_dcammue_progress1.png | 13:10 |
| scooper | Due to your schedule we something go in private on IRC | 13:10 |
| scooper | It cool with us once Sahnun is available that time...... | 13:11 |
| scooper | \me | 13:12 |
| jelkner | svaye and dcammue, your goal is to turn the circles under R, C, and K fully green | 13:12 |
| jelkner | i'll show you Tuesday what it looks like then | 13:12 |
| jelkner | you should make progress between now and Tuesday morning | 13:12 |
| svaye | Okay Jeff | 13:12 |
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| tboimah | can we talk one at the time please because that conversation is getting confusing please | 13:13 |
| jelkner | tboimah, we should learn how to use this better | 13:14 |
| jelkner | we can get a lot more done if we have several conversations at the same time | 13:15 |
| jelkner | otherwise, tboimah, most of us just sit and wait | 13:15 |
| jelkner | we will learn that in the IT business, things move *FAST*! | 13:15 |
| tboimah | hmmm okay if you say so | 13:15 |
| jelkner | there is not time to sit and wait | 13:15 |
| jelkner | you can make it easier to follow by putting the nicks of the users you are addressing, tboimah | 13:16 |
| jelkner | that way it shows up in a different color for them | 13:16 |
| jelkner | and is easier to read, tboimah | 13:16 |
| fkoikoi | so the web group will be meeting with Jeff from Monday to Thursday (11:00am -12noon) | 13:16 |
| fkoikoi | am I right Jeff? | 13:16 |
| jelkner | exactly, fkoikoi! | 13:17 |
| jelkner | but not this Monday | 13:17 |
| jelkner | we will start Tuesday, June 27 at 11 am Monrovia time | 13:17 |
| jelkner | i can't stay long, so let's keep the meeting moving | 13:18 |
| fkoikoi | alright and the sysadmin and python team will be meeting by 1:00 | 13:18 |
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| fkoikoi | the only difference is that the sysadmin team meets every Monday and Friday while the python team meets from Monday to Friday | 13:19 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, what is the "trail test in August"? | 13:19 |
| fkoikoi | Spencer will talk about that Jeff | 13:20 |
| jelkner | ok, let's move to the next item | 13:20 |
| jelkner | i can't stay | 13:20 |
| fkoikoi | sure | 13:20 |
| jelkner | and we are taking too long | 13:20 |
| scooper | Previously it was stated by Jeff that these test will show if we I gearing to because | 13:20 |
| scooper | becoming a starter programer | 13:21 |
| scooper | will each team taking test: for his or his area of studies | 13:21 |
| scooper | *with | 13:21 |
| jelkner | but scooper, folks will probably not be ready to do that by August | 13:22 |
| scooper | Jeff do you understand that part??? | 13:22 |
| scooper | ok | 13:22 |
| scooper | got | 13:22 |
| scooper | u | 13:22 |
| scooper | the question here is that should cancern it for now | 13:22 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, may i make a suggestion? | 13:22 |
| scooper | *cancel | 13:22 |
| fkoikoi | sure Jeff | 13:23 |
| jelkner | let's talk very briefly about what Saturday meetings are for, and how they should be run | 13:23 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 13:23 |
| jelkner | Two things: | 13:23 |
| jelkner | 1. Saturday meeting topics should be broad and general | 13:24 |
| jelkner | 2. Meetings should move quick and be short | 13:24 |
| jelkner | in agile software development, morning meetings are often called "Stand up meetings" | 13:24 |
| jelkner | because to keep them short, everyone is told to stand while they happen | 13:24 |
| jelkner | that way people will move faster, so they can sit down when it is over ;-) | 13:25 |
| jelkner | this is not a time for labs, or teaching new things | 13:25 |
| jelkner | this is a time for taking care of business | 13:25 |
| jelkner | that means: | 13:25 |
| jelkner | 1. sharing important general info (like schedules) | 13:25 |
| jelkner | 2. providing brief updates from each group (so other folks know what is happening with them) | 13:26 |
| jelkner | 3. making decisions | 13:26 |
| jelkner | that's what the meetings should be about | 13:26 |
| jelkner | the learning takes place in the study groups now | 13:26 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 13:27 |
| scooper | +1 | 13:27 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 13:27 |
| jelkner | janet, dcammue, mulbah, svaye, Thomas_? | 13:28 |
| jelkner | does it make sense to you? | 13:28 |
| svaye | +1 | 13:28 |
| janet | sure | 13:28 |
| Thomas_ | +1 | 13:28 |
| scooper | no or yes | 13:28 |
| dcammue | +1 | 13:29 |
| jelkner | great | 13:29 |
| mulbah | +1 | 13:29 |
| jelkner | so, i need to take the bus and then the train to DC to meet with Kevin and the man we hope will build a school for us | 13:29 |
| jelkner | anything else you need from me before i go? | 13:30 |
| scooper | sound great | 13:30 |
| fkoikoi | but can you make the team understand something before you leave Jeff | 13:30 |
| jelkner | sure, fkoikoi | 13:30 |
| jelkner | what do you want to understand? | 13:30 |
| fkoikoi | Were you saying that we shouldn't write the test since we are not prepare? | 13:31 |
| jelkner | which test, fkoikoi? | 13:31 |
| fkoikoi | The CIW test | 13:31 |
| fkoikoi | that we suppose to write in August | 13:31 |
| jelkner | The CIW test is for the web group only | 13:31 |
| jelkner | svaye and dcammue | 13:31 |
| jelkner | they are the only two enrolled in the course | 13:32 |
| scooper | What abou the Python and Sysadmi???? | 13:32 |
| jelkner | it covers HTML, CSS, and JavaScript | 13:32 |
| jelkner | scooper, we have to decide together | 13:32 |
| scooper | got | 13:33 |
| scooper | u | 13:33 |
| jelkner | we need to move forward, but we need to use our resources wisely | 13:33 |
| jelkner | each "seat" in the CIW course cost $150 | 13:33 |
| jelkner | that was $300 | 13:33 |
| jelkner | for the two students | 13:33 |
| scooper | We have some money in save already that can be use for that purpose to was the test...... | 13:34 |
| jelkner | if they learn a lot from the course, and especially if they pass the certification exam, it will be very worth it | 13:34 |
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| jelkner | i can monitor their progress on the site | 13:34 |
| jelkner | there is a good exam for Python | 13:35 |
| jelkner | https://pythoninstitute.org/pcep | 13:35 |
| jelkner | for that one, the exam + retake + practice exam costs $84.90 | 13:36 |
| jelkner | but it is up to the Python group and Sahnun | 13:36 |
| jelkner | to decide if they want to do that | 13:36 |
| jelkner | for the system admin folks | 13:37 |
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| jelkner | https://www.lpi.org/our-certifications/lpic-1-overview | 13:38 |
| jelkner | might be good | 13:38 |
| jelkner | but we need to talk to kevin about that | 13:38 |
| jelkner | i'll be seeing him today | 13:38 |
| jelkner | so i'll bring it up | 13:39 |
| jelkner | https://global4.lpimarketplace.com/shop/lpic-1 | 13:39 |
| jelkner | looks like $90 to take the exam | 13:40 |
| jelkner | it would be wonderful if we could get at least one person in each group certified | 13:40 |
| jelkner | but all these exams are challenging, so we would need to work *very hard* to do it! | 13:40 |
| jelkner | anything else before i go? | 13:41 |
| scooper | yes | 13:41 |
| scooper | anyway svaye will ask you | 13:41 |
| svaye | Jeff have you already paid the $300 for me and dcammue? | 13:41 |
| jelkner | yes, svaye | 13:41 |
| jelkner | that's why you can login to the curriculum | 13:42 |
| scooper | wow wonderful | 13:42 |
| scooper | thanks Jeff | 13:42 |
| jelkner | if it didn't, you couldn't ;-) | 13:42 |
| svaye | Thanks Jeff | 13:42 |
| dcammue | Thanks | 13:42 |
| jelkner | your most welcome | 13:42 |
| jelkner | now work hard! ;-) | 13:42 |
| jelkner | s/you're/your | 13:43 |
| dcammue | :-) | 13:43 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else before i go? | 13:43 |
| mulbah | Jeff if we are to take the test are you going to be the one to pay for us | 13:43 |
| jelkner | which test, mulbah? | 13:43 |
| jelkner | mulbah, i am currently sending $800 per month | 13:43 |
| mulbah | the link you was sending | 13:44 |
| jelkner | i can't afford much more than that | 13:44 |
| jelkner | we have to decide together how to use our resources | 13:44 |
| mulbah | Okay | 13:44 |
| mulbah | I though we was taking test too | 13:44 |
| jelkner | if you can pass, it will help us *a lot* | 13:44 |
| jelkner | mulbah, i am only leading the web study group | 13:45 |
| jelkner | we need shmohamud to decide if he can lead the Python group to PCEP | 13:45 |
| jelkner | and we need Kevin to decide if he wants LPIC | 13:45 |
| jelkner | i can't do that | 13:46 |
| mulbah | Alright thanks for the understanding | 13:46 |
| jelkner | once the groups decide what they want | 13:46 |
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| jelkner | we need to talk together about how to move on each one | 13:46 |
| fkoikoi | sure | 13:46 |
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| jelkner | remember, the *most* important of all is your college degree | 13:47 |
| jelkner | it will be courses for that, not certification exams | 13:47 |
| jelkner | but both things support each other | 13:47 |
| jelkner | if you got the PCEP, for example | 13:48 |
| jelkner | the first programming course at UoPeople would be *much* easier! | 13:48 |
| jelkner | since you would already know the basics of Python | 13:48 |
| jelkner | other questions? | 13:48 |
| jelkner | i gotta get going | 13:48 |
| fkoikoi | -1 | 13:48 |
| svaye | Okay Jeff | 13:48 |
| svaye | Have a nice weekend Jeff | 13:49 |
| dcammue | what the gotta means Jeff? | 13:49 |
| jelkner | you too, svaye. see you and dcammue at 11 am your time Tuesday | 13:49 |
| dcammue | Okay | 13:49 |
| jelkner | impress me with your progress by then ;-) | 13:50 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 13:50 |
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