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| mulbah | Hello shmohamud | 13:37 |
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| mulbah | How are you and everything doing | 13:37 |
| shmohamud | Hello Mulbah | 13:38 |
| shmohamud | I'm doing well, thanks for asking. How are you? | 13:38 |
| mulbah | I'm good | 13:38 |
| mulbah | long time | 13:39 |
| shmohamud | Yes sir, too long if you ask me :) | 13:39 |
| shmohamud | Hello fkoikoi | 13:41 |
| fkoikoi | Hi shmohamud | 13:41 |
| fkoikoi | how are you? | 13:41 |
| shmohamud | Doing well, how are you? | 13:42 |
| fkoikoi | I'm good as well | 13:42 |
| fkoikoi | long time oo | 13:42 |
| shmohamud | Yes, too long! Are you studying for the PCEP? | 13:43 |
| fkoikoi | yes | 13:44 |
| fkoikoi | and will need your help too | 13:44 |
| shmohamud | Ok, I'm here as a resource. I can always make time for you, just let me know when works for you. | 13:45 |
| shmohamud | Do you have any quick questions now? | 13:45 |
| janet | Hi everyone | 13:45 |
| mulbah | hello janet | 13:46 |
| shmohamud | Hi Janet | 13:46 |
| mulbah | please join #jetrowebdev | 13:46 |
| fkoikoi | so what time will you be available? | 13:46 |
| shmohamud | Weekdays at 8:30PM Monrovia time | 13:47 |
| fkoikoi | Alright | 13:47 |
| shmohamud | I've seen scooper a few times already | 13:48 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 13:49 |
| shmohamud | Mulbah how do I join jetrowebdev? | 13:50 |
| mulbah | go to server up | 13:51 |
| mulbah | and click join a channel | 13:51 |
| shmohamud | is there a PW? | 13:52 |
| mulbah | and put "#jetrowebdev" | 13:52 |
| mulbah | no | 13:52 |
| shmohamud | I don't think that worked. "Cannot send to channel" error | 13:53 |
| mulbah | did you go to server | 13:56 |
| shmohamud | yes | 13:56 |
| mulbah | and click join channel | 13:56 |
| shmohamud | I clicked "Add Channel" | 13:56 |
| mulbah | no you will see join channel | 13:57 |
| dcammue | Good morning and Good day to you all | 13:57 |
| mulbah | up where you have "HexChat, View, Server, Settings, Window, Help" | 13:58 |
| mulbah | Good afternoon dcammue | 13:59 |
| shmohamud | I'm not using HexChat, I'm using LimeChat | 13:59 |
| mulbah | oh okay | 13:59 |
| LittleWebster | mulbah : dcammue : fkoikoi : jelkner : tboimah : janet : shmohamud | 14:00 |
| LittleWebster | Tick Tock! | 14:00 |
| LittleWebster | It's 14:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting. | 14:00 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for today: | 14:00 |
| LittleWebster | Discussion on Jeff Meeting with the Supe (added by fkoikoi) | 14:00 |
| LittleWebster | Things that are needed to be done while looking forward to the building of the school (added by fkoikoi) | 14:00 |
| LittleWebster | Plans for earning certifications before May 1st (added by jelkner) | 14:00 |
| LittleWebster | Have a nice day, Websters! | 14:00 |
| mulbah | Click add channel | 14:00 |
| mulbah | and then put jetrowebdev when you see #, if there is no # but #jetrowebdev | 14:00 |
| mulbah | put not but | 14:01 |
| shmohamud | ok we'll figure it out later. Meeting started. | 14:01 |
| jelkner | shmohamud, you can type "/j #jetrowebdev" | 14:03 |
| mulbah | The meeting is not heal on this channel | 14:03 |
| shmohamud | Got it | 14:03 |
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| jelkner | shmohamud, NOVA Web is making great progress | 14:32 |
| jelkner | that's why i asked you to stay | 14:32 |
| shmohamud | that's really good to hear. Looking forward to meeting | 14:32 |
| jelkner | so that you can get a feel for what they can do by watching | 14:33 |
| jelkner | we can talk about that next Saturday | 14:33 |
| shmohamud | sounds good | 14:33 |
| jelkner | btw, shmohamud their biggest success so far was last week | 14:33 |
| jelkner | https://guzmanforcongress.com/ | 14:34 |
| jelkner | she called us thursday morning and said "i need the website up *today*!" | 14:34 |
| jelkner | and they delivered | 14:34 |
| shmohamud | looks great, awesome! Who did the development work for it? | 14:35 |
| jelkner | James O'Connor | 14:35 |
| jelkner | did most of the Django work | 14:36 |
| jelkner | but they worked as a team | 14:36 |
| shmohamud | cool I don't think I've met James yet | 14:36 |
| jelkner | Julian and Kei coordinated communication | 14:36 |
| jelkner | they are the business managers | 14:36 |
| jelkner | I believe Luis helped with Spanish translation | 14:37 |
| shmohamud | Sounds like a solid team effort | 14:37 |
| jelkner | it really was | 14:38 |
| shmohamud | That's how it should be for every project, like a well-oiled machine we should produce websites. | 14:38 |
| jelkner | it was a joy to watch | 14:38 |
| jelkner | +1 | 14:38 |
| shmohamud | Definitely a big success. The question from my perspective is how to get *new* clients. I have an idea. | 14:38 |
| jelkner | let's talk next Saturday | 14:39 |
| shmohamud | sounds good | 14:39 |
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| Jmolina | !agenda | 14:52 |
| LittleWebster | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 14:52 |
| Jmolina | !add Request for NOVA Web Tutor | 14:53 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Request for NOVA Web Tutor" has been added to the agenda. | 14:53 |
| jelkner | Jmolina, let me tell you now what that's about | 14:53 |
| Jmolina | Ok | 14:54 |
| Jmolina | !add NOVA Web Website Updates | 14:54 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "NOVA Web Website Updates" has been added to the agenda. | 14:54 |
| jelkner | Melida from Academic Academy came to me with a Latina mom calling her to find a tutor for her NVCC son who is taking ITE 140 (the spreadsheet) class | 14:54 |
| Jmolina | !add New IRC Channel | 14:54 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "New IRC Channel" has been added to the agenda. | 14:54 |
| jelkner | i told her perhaps NOVA Web could find someone to do that for $20 per hour | 14:55 |
| jelkner | so that is the item | 14:55 |
| jelkner | she is expecting a call from one of us today | 14:55 |
| Jmolina | !add !Cooking Stove Project | 14:55 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "!Cooking Stove Project" has been added to the agenda. | 14:55 |
| Jmolina | Oh ok | 14:55 |
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| Jmolina | !Georgetown Professor | 14:57 |
| Jmolina | !add Georgetown Professor | 14:57 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Georgetown Professor" has been added to the agenda. | 14:57 |
| Jmolina | !agenda | 14:57 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 14:57 |
| LittleWebster | Request for NOVA Web Tutor (added by Jmolina) | 14:57 |
| LittleWebster | NOVA Web Website Updates (added by Jmolina) | 14:57 |
| LittleWebster | New IRC Channel (added by Jmolina) | 14:57 |
| LittleWebster | !Cooking Stove Project (added by Jmolina) | 14:57 |
| LittleWebster | Georgetown Professor (added by Jmolina) | 14:57 |
| klarios | !add Nova web Tutor | 14:58 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Nova web Tutor" has been added to the agenda. | 14:58 |
| klarios | !add charle's introductory message | 14:59 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "charle's introductory message" has been added to the agenda. | 14:59 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 14:59 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 14:59 |
| LittleWebster | Request for NOVA Web Tutor (added by Jmolina) | 14:59 |
| LittleWebster | NOVA Web Website Updates (added by Jmolina) | 14:59 |
| LittleWebster | New IRC Channel (added by Jmolina) | 14:59 |
| LittleWebster | !Cooking Stove Project (added by Jmolina) | 14:59 |
| LittleWebster | Georgetown Professor (added by Jmolina) | 14:59 |
| LittleWebster | Nova web Tutor (added by klarios) | 14:59 |
| LittleWebster | charle's introductory message (added by klarios) | 14:59 |
| klarios | !add Linode/Server terminations | 15:00 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Linode/Server terminations" has been added to the agenda. | 15:00 |
| klarios | Helllo guys good morning | 15:00 |
| jelkner | Good morning | 15:00 |
| Jmolina | Good Morning | 15:00 |
| klarios | sorry for the lateness, I was doing stuff for family | 15:00 |
| shmohamud | Good morning | 15:01 |
| klarios | Alright so as you mentioned Jeff we added the NOVA we tutor, what are your plans regarding that? | 15:01 |
| jelkner | do you want to do it? | 15:01 |
| jelkner | i mean take on the business? | 15:02 |
| jelkner | it's not part of NOVA Web's regular offering | 15:02 |
| jelkner | but it's a paying gig | 15:02 |
| jelkner | related to what we do | 15:02 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 15:02 |
| Jmolina | Honestly we have two people that know ITE 140 | 15:02 |
| Jmolina | Edward could probably do that | 15:03 |
| klarios | we are not so far from doing it as well | 15:03 |
| jelkner | great | 15:03 |
| jelkner | Jmolina, can you call the customer today? | 15:03 |
| jelkner | i can text you her number | 15:03 |
| Jmolina | Ok but shouldn't we talk to Edward first? | 15:03 |
| jelkner | i told her we would call today | 15:04 |
| jelkner | so if you can reach him, great | 15:04 |
| jelkner | but you two are the business managers | 15:04 |
| jelkner | you need to get used to moving quick when these things come up | 15:04 |
| Jmolina | I mean sure I will call her today theb | 15:04 |
| Jmolina | then | 15:05 |
| jelkner | you don't have to sign a contract, just call her | 15:05 |
| jelkner | thanks | 15:05 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 15:05 |
| klarios | !add meeting with Maddie | 15:05 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "meeting with Maddie" has been added to the agenda. | 15:05 |
| klarios | Jmolina: You've got this? | 15:05 |
| Jmolina | You mean Melida | 15:06 |
| Jmolina | Sure | 15:06 |
| klarios | Alright, we can move on to the next item on the list. | 15:07 |
| klarios | !agenda | 15:07 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 15:07 |
| LittleWebster | Request for NOVA Web Tutor (added by Jmolina) | 15:07 |
| LittleWebster | NOVA Web Website Updates (added by Jmolina) | 15:07 |
| LittleWebster | New IRC Channel (added by Jmolina) | 15:07 |
| LittleWebster | !Cooking Stove Project (added by Jmolina) | 15:07 |
| LittleWebster | Georgetown Professor (added by Jmolina) | 15:07 |
| LittleWebster | Nova web Tutor (added by klarios) | 15:07 |
| LittleWebster | charle's introductory message (added by klarios) | 15:07 |
| LittleWebster | Linode/Server terminations (added by klarios) | 15:07 |
| LittleWebster | meeting with Maddie (added by klarios) | 15:07 |
| Jmolina | Ok for the second item | 15:07 |
| klarios | Irc website updates Jmolina | 15:07 |
| klarios | I know we were working on this last time, who is taking on this project? | 15:07 |
| Jmolina | I don't have much to say besides we need to update the theme, I have been messaging with Adrian and with the help of Luis and James we can get that done | 15:07 |
| Jmolina | Luis will be leading it primarily | 15:08 |
| klarios | Got you, do you think it would be time consuming? | 15:08 |
| Jmolina | No | 15:08 |
| klarios | that's good since we are expecting Luis to take on a big project soon | 15:09 |
| klarios | Also do you know if he will be able to make it? I messaged him but have gotten no response | 15:09 |
| klarios | Jmolina: | 15:09 |
| Jmolina | He will be able to | 15:09 |
| klarios | Got you | 15:10 |
| klarios | do you know if the website is inthe current version of libre organize | 15:10 |
| klarios | ? | 15:10 |
| klarios | or an older one? | 15:10 |
| Jmolina | Yes it is but it is not in boxes or files | 15:11 |
| klarios | its in the current one? | 15:11 |
| Jmolina | Yes | 15:11 |
| klarios | ok, we can add them on to our boxes and files while we work on it | 15:11 |
| klarios | with the help of Adrian | 15:11 |
| klarios | alright moving on to the third Item | 15:12 |
| klarios | it is the cooking stove project | 15:12 |
| Jmolina | So Luis isnt here | 15:12 |
| Jmolina | But I was looking at it and the homepage needs some serious work | 15:12 |
| jelkner | +1 | 15:12 |
| klarios | can I have the link? | 15:12 |
| klarios | or web address? | 15:13 |
| Jmolina | Also the URL is kind of weird | 15:13 |
| klarios | oh | 15:13 |
| jelkner | the url is fine | 15:13 |
| klarios | I see, this is an issue we need to focus on immediately | 15:13 |
| Jmolina | https://www.cleancookingsystem.org.cn/ | 15:13 |
| jelkner | but the page needs work! | 15:13 |
| Jmolina | The URL needs to have the www. at the beginning to work | 15:13 |
| jelkner | that's a dns record | 15:14 |
| jelkner | so we could fix that on thursday evening | 15:14 |
| klarios | I agree, it looks very simplistic and lack a lot. Jmolina Has Luis been updating you regarding the projects? | 15:14 |
| Jmolina | Not really | 15:14 |
| klarios | we need to deliver a product if we want to charge people. | 15:14 |
| jelkner | Jmolina, klarios you can assign me to ask him about that | 15:14 |
| jelkner | since i see him every other day in class | 15:15 |
| jelkner | i see him monday morning | 15:15 |
| klarios | Sure you can take innitiative although we will still tell all developers about updating us on projects | 15:15 |
| jelkner | +1 | 15:15 |
| klarios | especially if they feel stuck or cant get any progress done | 15:16 |
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| klarios | Alright we can proceed to move on, | 15:16 |
| klarios | !agenda | 15:17 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 15:17 |
| LittleWebster | Request for NOVA Web Tutor (added by Jmolina) | 15:17 |
| LittleWebster | NOVA Web Website Updates (added by Jmolina) | 15:17 |
| LittleWebster | New IRC Channel (added by Jmolina) | 15:17 |
| LittleWebster | !Cooking Stove Project (added by Jmolina) | 15:17 |
| LittleWebster | Georgetown Professor (added by Jmolina) | 15:17 |
| LittleWebster | Nova web Tutor (added by klarios) | 15:17 |
| LittleWebster | charle's introductory message (added by klarios) | 15:17 |
| LittleWebster | Linode/Server terminations (added by klarios) | 15:17 |
| LittleWebster | meeting with Maddie (added by klarios) | 15:17 |
| klarios | the next Item Is creating a New IRC channel | 15:17 |
| jelkner | that has been done | 15:17 |
| jelkner | but BigBrother needs fixing | 15:17 |
| klarios | good, who took care of that? | 15:17 |
| Jmolina | Yes | 15:17 |
| jelkner | it prints the agenda in this channel | 15:17 |
| Jmolina | I did | 15:17 |
| jelkner | not in #jetrowebdev | 15:18 |
| Jmolina | Oh I don't have access to this one yet | 15:18 |
| klarios | Great Jmolina | 15:18 |
| Jmolina | But I will talk to Tobi about that | 15:18 |
| jelkner | +1 | 15:18 |
| klarios | that sounds like a plan. | 15:19 |
| klarios | Alright moving on we got the Georgetown professor | 15:19 |
| klarios | I am not sure I am aware of him completely. | 15:19 |
| Jmolina | He just wants a website made for a podcast | 15:20 |
| klarios | oooh that sounds great, and I imagine james could take care of that? | 15:20 |
| Jmolina | Honestly now that the Elizabeth Guzman storm has calmed down a bit James could do it | 15:20 |
| klarios | Yeah it would be benefitial, the only thing that concerns me though is like Ms guzman's site, SECOSOL also needs a pretty urgent site, especially if we want to test is for hosting on mayfirst | 15:21 |
| jelkner | SECOSOL can wait | 15:21 |
| Jmolina | Like Jeff said SECOSOL isnt a priority | 15:22 |
| jelkner | saddly the organization is moving slow | 15:22 |
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| klarios | got you | 15:22 |
| jelkner | so we will need it, but not yet | 15:22 |
| klarios | we will need to take innitiative with another organization then | 15:22 |
| Jmolina | Plus James is just waiting on their content | 15:22 |
| klarios | Its been maybe 3 weeks? | 15:22 |
| Jmolina | Longer | 15:23 |
| klarios | yeah, jelkner do you know if we can talk to somebody in order to speed things up? | 15:23 |
| jelkner | you can't klarios | 15:23 |
| klarios | or at least help them | 15:23 |
| klarios | got it | 15:24 |
| jelkner | just move on | 15:24 |
| jelkner | they will come to you when they are ready | 15:24 |
| klarios | I understand, do you think we could proceed with MSP instead? | 15:24 |
| jelkner | +1 | 15:24 |
| klarios | I will talk to them about that | 15:24 |
| klarios | Alright, moving on we have charle's introductory message, Unfortunately Antonio was not able to make it since he has a short notice event from college but we have created the list | 15:25 |
| jelkner | klarios, Jmolina, can you stay a few minutes after you drop the bag of gravel? | 15:25 |
| Jmolina | sure | 15:26 |
| klarios | he Is sending the introductury email to Charles today and we will be crafting the email as of this week | 15:26 |
| klarios | jelkner: Ye | 15:26 |
| klarios | s | 15:26 |
| klarios | Also jeff | 15:26 |
| jelkner | after, klarios | 15:26 |
| jelkner | you only have 3 minutes1 | 15:26 |
| jelkner | ! | 15:26 |
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| klarios | ANtonio had an issue transferring the site from spacehost to bluehost so charles knew someone who could take care of that | 15:27 |
| klarios | that's why he needed external help | 15:27 |
| jelkner | got you | 15:27 |
| klarios | Alright next is the meeting with maddie \ | 15:27 |
| klarios | she has not emailed me back but I will call her to set it up | 15:27 |
| klarios | as email is not her main way of contact | 15:28 |
| klarios | now lastly it is linode server information | 15:28 |
| klarios | I logged into the NWD linode and noticed a bunch of unused servers, I am going to reach out to the costumers and determine wether they want their own linode account | 15:29 |
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| klarios | Alright, that is all I got for today | 15:29 |
| jelkner | talk to abucholz about that first | 15:29 |
| klarios | yeah I talked to him about some | 15:30 |
| klarios | that we need and dont need | 15:30 |
| klarios | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 15:30 |
| klarios | Yey! | 15:30 |
| jelkner | great | 15:30 |
| jelkner | ok, i have three proposals / concerns | 15:31 |
| jelkner | 1. these saturday morning planning meetings are crucial | 15:31 |
| jelkner | can you two agree to be here 30 minutes early (9:30 am) and to bill me for the hour | 15:31 |
| jelkner | so i'll commit to $30 a week to get the two of you here for an hour | 15:32 |
| Jmolina | ok | 15:32 |
| klarios | I agree | 15:32 |
| jelkner | since the 3 of us can use the 30 minutes before 10 to plan | 15:32 |
| jelkner | ok, great | 15:32 |
| jelkner | now no. 2 | 15:32 |
| jelkner | we need the developers here | 15:32 |
| jelkner | not one of them showed today | 15:32 |
| jelkner | they should be here from 10 to 10:30 am | 15:32 |
| Jmolina | yes we do | 15:32 |
| jelkner | i have a proposal | 15:32 |
| jelkner | we should put it before the developers themselves | 15:33 |
| klarios | we need to find out a way to incentivize them to be here | 15:33 |
| jelkner | but i'll argue strongly for it | 15:33 |
| jelkner | no one gets a pay check during a week they were not present at the saturday meeting | 15:33 |
| jelkner | that means when they are waiting for a check, they at least have to show up them | 15:33 |
| jelkner | then | 15:33 |
| Jmolina | ok sounds good to me | 15:34 |
| klarios | That sounds like a good idea. Although my idea was harsher this could work as wekk | 15:34 |
| jelkner | we should continue to focus on moral persuasion | 15:34 |
| klarios | I was thinking deducting an ammout for no show | 15:34 |
| jelkner | but a little bit of material incentive may help us here | 15:34 |
| jelkner | deducing what? | 15:35 |
| klarios | but that is harsh of course | 15:35 |
| klarios | from their checks | 15:35 |
| jelkner | have you been paying for the time they spend in the meeting? | 15:35 |
| klarios | nope | 15:35 |
| jelkner | then there is nothing to deduct | 15:35 |
| klarios | true | 15:35 |
| jelkner | this is a great conversation | 15:35 |
| jelkner | we are really moving along | 15:35 |
| jelkner | we are now beginning to talk about idea, what is right and wrong, what we can and can not (and should) do | 15:36 |
| jelkner | remember, before too long | 15:36 |
| jelkner | we will have a firmer governance in place | 15:36 |
| jelkner | the idea of a worker coop is one worker one vote | 15:36 |
| jelkner | so anything you plan, we need to get approved by everyone | 15:36 |
| klarios | Yeah I agree, especially if we are expecting more people to join us we need to stand our ground | 15:37 |
| jelkner | so in building a democratic organization, you need to do a lot of education | 15:37 |
| jelkner | we have a smart group | 15:37 |
| jelkner | i think our dear friend ledmer, who just showed up | 15:37 |
| jelkner | would understand why it is so important to have devs in the meetings | 15:37 |
| klarios | Hello ledmer | 15:37 |
| ledmer | hello! | 15:37 |
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| Jmolina | Hi Luis | 15:38 |
| jelkner | and we could probably have his support to get some kind of accountability built in when people don't show | 15:38 |
| jelkner | we get to decide together | 15:38 |
| jelkner | but we need to both motivate each other and to hold each other accountable | 15:38 |
| klarios | yes I agree | 15:39 |
| jelkner | if we do, we succeed and thrive, if not, we don't | 15:39 |
| jelkner | ok, last of my 3 points | 15:39 |
| jelkner | klarios, Jmolina, my experience is that your lives will be most pleasant, and our business will be most effective | 15:39 |
| jelkner | when we understand that we server our partners / clients | 15:40 |
| jelkner | so, don't bother pestering them for data and trying to move then along on their websites | 15:40 |
| jelkner | instead, be ready to move with all deliberate speed when they ask us | 15:40 |
| jelkner | we serve them | 15:41 |
| jelkner | not the other way around | 15:41 |
| jelkner | if they aren't pestering us | 15:41 |
| jelkner | they don't perceive and acute need | 15:41 |
| jelkner | so we have nothing to do | 15:41 |
| jelkner | SECOSOL is a case in point | 15:41 |
| jelkner | and MSP too | 15:41 |
| klarios | I understand | 15:41 |
| jelkner | SECOSOL has not been asking you for progress | 15:41 |
| jelkner | but MSP has | 15:41 |
| jelkner | so take care of MSP | 15:42 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 15:42 |
| klarios | yes | 15:42 |
| Jmolina | ok | 15:42 |
| jelkner | great | 15:42 |
| jelkner | klarios, you won't be here next week, right? | 15:43 |
| klarios | I iwll | 15:43 |
| Jmolina | i wont | 15:43 |
| klarios | Jmolina: Julian wont | 15:43 |
| jelkner | right | 15:43 |
| jelkner | ok, klarios i'll see you thursday | 15:43 |
| jelkner | but i'll be in a video forum | 15:43 |
| klarios | Got it, thank you for your time and advice | 15:43 |
| jelkner | i'm be listening to a forum on this book: https://monthlyreview.org/press/new-commune-or-nothing-venezuelas-communal-movement-and-its-socialist-project/ | 15:44 |
| jelkner | in addition to the author, chris gilbert | 15:45 |
| jelkner | one of the other panelists is from cooperation jackson: https://cooperationjackson.org/ | 15:46 |
| jelkner | i'll report back to you on it later | 15:46 |
| jelkner | but i am very interested in the radical cooperative movement | 15:46 |
| jelkner | so i had to attend | 15:46 |
| jelkner | that's all i got | 15:47 |
| jelkner | see you next thursday | 15:47 |
| Jmolina | See you Monday Jeff | 15:47 |
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