| jelkner | Good morning svaye! | 10:53 |
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| jelkner | !agenda | 10:53 |
| BigBrother | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 10:53 |
| svaye | Good morning Jeff | 10:54 |
| jelkner | one of the first things we need to figure out is which channel to use | 10:54 |
| svaye | We use the novawebdev channel for meeting on Saturday and use the accict for meeting during the week | 10:56 |
| jelkner | Good morning fkoikoi! | 10:57 |
| fkoikoi | Good Morning Jeff | 10:57 |
| svaye | Good morning fkoikoi | 10:57 |
| fkoikoi | Good Morning svaye | 10:57 |
| jelkner | I just saw tboimah's email | 10:58 |
| fkoikoi | Jeff | 10:58 |
| jelkner | Freena | 10:58 |
| jelkner | Spencer mentioned this, but I didn't really grasp the scope of it | 10:58 |
| jelkner | The MCSS office is closed for how long? | 10:58 |
| fkoikoi | Sorry I didn't send you the mail as instructed, my computer has been off since Saturday deal to no electricity. I am at the charging boot to get small current | 11:00 |
| fkoikoi | Yes they closed because of the election which is tomorrow | 11:00 |
| jelkner | Wow, that is a big deal | 11:00 |
| jelkner | When will you know the results? | 11:00 |
| jelkner | Actually, fkoikoi, if you have technical challenges | 11:00 |
| jelkner | let's "cut to the chase" as the saying goes | 11:01 |
| jelkner | svaye, are you at home? | 11:01 |
| svaye | Yes | 11:01 |
| jelkner | Do you have fairly reliable current there? | 11:01 |
| fkoikoi | No let's continue, my computer is charging now | 11:01 |
| jelkner | we will continue, i just mean that i don't want to waste time | 11:02 |
| svaye | yes jelkner | 11:02 |
| jelkner | another question for the two of you | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 11:02 |
| jelkner | can you communicate by text? | 11:02 |
| jelkner | between each other, i mean | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 11:03 |
| jelkner | so you can? | 11:03 |
| svaye | sometimes we call | 11:03 |
| jelkner | what i mean is, even when fkoikoi has challenges getting power to her laptop, can she text you? | 11:03 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:04 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:04 |
| fkoikoi | yes Jeff | 11:04 |
| jelkner | that's great | 11:04 |
| jelkner | so, what did you all decide to do after our meeting on Saturday? | 11:04 |
| jelkner | i want to start planning | 11:05 |
| jelkner | are you two the team that i can plan with? | 11:05 |
| svaye | Everyone said that they are interested in being the second assistant | 11:05 |
| jelkner | so how will you all decide? | 11:06 |
| fkoikoi | Yes for now Jeff | 11:06 |
| svaye | So I will be meeting with you and fkoikoi until we can decide | 11:06 |
| jelkner | that's fine, svaye, but I want to caution you | 11:06 |
| fkoikoi | because everyone didn't agreed on a particular person but everyone agreed that svaye and i can work with you until they finalize the discussion | 11:07 |
| jelkner | we need to start making some plans | 11:07 |
| jelkner | especially if we want to build a school | 11:07 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:07 |
| jelkner | and those plans will require people who can stay on track and follow through | 11:07 |
| svaye | +1 | 11:07 |
| jelkner | if we don't have that, we are wasting our time | 11:07 |
| fkoikoi | okay Jeff | 11:08 |
| jelkner | I need to send an email to Commy Jahanbein asking about the time line and the next concrete steps in planning for the school | 11:08 |
| jelkner | can we talk about that now? | 11:08 |
| svaye | +1 | 11:08 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:08 |
| jelkner | great | 11:08 |
| jelkner | do you have questions about the process that i can answer now? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | great, scooper1 is here with us | 11:09 |
| scooper1 | Good morning everyone | 11:09 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning scooper | 11:09 |
| jelkner | this is really the group that should be discussing the school | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so we are all here | 11:10 |
| scooper1 | Morning | 11:10 |
| jelkner | back to my question, svaye and fkoikoi, do you have any questions? | 11:10 |
| jelkner | do you understand basically how the Kamal Foundation works and what they will require from us? | 11:10 |
| jelkner | btw. i normally can only stay for 10 minutes, but i don't have students today | 11:11 |
| jelkner | also, i won't be at our meeting next saturday | 11:11 |
| jelkner | or at this meeting next monday | 11:11 |
| fkoikoi | Yes Jeff but i want to get something clear before asking my question | 11:11 |
| jelkner | please, fkoikoi | 11:12 |
| scooper1 | Jeff, I will not be online tomorrow because I m going to vote for my prefer candidate | 11:12 |
| jelkner | let's not meet tomorrow | 11:12 |
| jelkner | so everyone can vote | 11:12 |
| svaye | I am not voting jelkner | 11:12 |
| fkoikoi | But svaye and i are not voting Jeff | 11:13 |
| scooper1 | there other are not voting | 11:13 |
| jelkner | you tell me what to do | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i'll be here if you will | 11:13 |
| fkoikoi | I will be here too | 11:13 |
| svaye | I will be here tomorrow | 11:13 |
| jelkner | but please, fkoikoi, i'm waiting for you to starting "getting things clear" | 11:13 |
| jelkner | that would be wonderful | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i want that too ;-) | 11:13 |
| fkoikoi | Firstly, okay I want to know how the kamal foundation works | 11:14 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, did you see any of the things i sent earlier, or should i start over from scratch? | 11:16 |
| scooper1 | Jeff after this discussion please give me two minutes of your time to talk about hte rural cooking project.... | 11:16 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:16 |
| fkoikoi | I did see it jeff | 11:16 |
| jelkner | so you tell me what you understand please | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and then i can fill in gaps or make corrections | 11:16 |
| fkoikoi | oh | 11:17 |
| fkoikoi | i didn't see what you sent earlier but | 11:17 |
| jelkner | svaye, how about you? | 11:18 |
| fkoikoi | I can read from the irc log | 11:18 |
| jelkner | great | 11:18 |
| jelkner | so what did you learn? | 11:18 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION going to read the log | 11:19 |
| jelkner | svaye, you too | 11:19 |
| scooper1 | can we talk while fkoikoi is reading | 11:19 |
| scooper1 | why they are reading | 11:19 |
| jelkner | as i mentioned to you on Signal | 11:19 |
| scooper1 | ok | 11:19 |
| svaye | I want to know in detail about the requirement | 11:19 |
| jelkner | i have been waiting now for over a week to email Commy | 11:20 |
| jelkner | he told me to email him | 11:20 |
| jelkner | i need to include the people in Monrovia who will be coordinating this in the email | 11:20 |
| jelkner | they need to know what we are talking about | 11:20 |
| jelkner | if not, we can't proceed | 11:20 |
| jelkner | since they will need to make decisions and take actions | 11:21 |
| jelkner | if they can't do that, we can't proceed | 11:21 |
| jelkner | scooper1, do you understand? | 11:21 |
| fkoikoi | Jeff | 11:21 |
| scooper1 | +1 | 11:21 |
| jelkner | Freena | 11:21 |
| fkoikoi | What are some of the things that are require of us? | 11:22 |
| jelkner | I have a lot of confidence in the Kamal Foundation and its director Commy Jahanbein | 11:22 |
| jelkner | https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/203707784 | 11:22 |
| jelkner | https://www.causeiq.com/organizations/kamal-foundation,203707784/ | 11:23 |
| jelkner | https://www.guidestar.org/profile/20-3707784 | 11:23 |
| jelkner | Commy has been building schools for over 20 years | 11:24 |
| jelkner | He has built them around the world, including in my wife's home country of El Salvador | 11:24 |
| jelkner | He runs a pub in DC that he uses to earn income for the project | 11:25 |
| jelkner | Kevin Cole has been going there for years | 11:25 |
| jelkner | That is how I found out about this project, through Kevin | 11:25 |
| jelkner | The Superintendent has met Commy in person twice. | 11:26 |
| jelkner | Once before he became Superintendent | 11:26 |
| jelkner | So we have been talking about doin this project for over 3 years now | 11:26 |
| jelkner | Now, I believe, is the time to stop "just talking" and start doing! | 11:27 |
| jelkner | I keep asking you all "do you want to do this?" | 11:27 |
| jelkner | you always tell me "Yes" | 11:27 |
| jelkner | but it is easy to say yes | 11:27 |
| jelkner | now i need to find out if you really mean | 11:28 |
| jelkner | it | 11:28 |
| jelkner | which means you have to act | 11:28 |
| jelkner | now just speak ;-) | 11:28 |
| jelkner | Commy tells me the next thing he needs to know is that we have a site | 11:28 |
| jelkner | We can't build a school in the sky | 11:28 |
| jelkner | we need to build it on the ground | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so we need some ground on which to build it | 11:29 |
| jelkner | that is something we will need to work our with MCSS | 11:29 |
| jelkner | since MCSS will be providing the ground | 11:29 |
| jelkner | are you with me so far? | 11:29 |
| svaye | +1 | 11:29 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:29 |
| jelkner | The superintendent once told me "we have a site" | 11:30 |
| jelkner | but you all know how busy he is | 11:30 |
| jelkner | so what i need from you all is to take charge of this project with me | 11:30 |
| jelkner | it will be your responsibility to sit down in the Sup's office and say, "Supe, we need to talk about the site" | 11:30 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 11:31 |
| jelkner | Then you will email Commy with me to move the process forward | 11:31 |
| svaye | okay | 11:31 |
| jelkner | i will be the point of contact here | 11:31 |
| jelkner | but you need to be the point of contact there | 11:31 |
| jelkner | that's why i have been so insistent on knowing who i am planning with | 11:32 |
| jelkner | i need to send an email to Commy soon | 11:32 |
| jelkner | i want to say: | 11:32 |
| jelkner | 1. Thank you for meeting with me on that Saturday a few weeks ago. | 11:32 |
| jelkner | 2. Let me have the pleasure of introducing you to the folks in Monrovia with whom I am working | 11:33 |
| jelkner | 3. I have a question about the timeline, assuming we are able to proceed, when would we hope to have a finished school? | 11:33 |
| jelkner | 4. What is the next step you want us to take? | 11:34 |
| jelkner | We need to be very intentional here | 11:34 |
| jelkner | And we don't want to keep changing the players on him | 11:34 |
| jelkner | We are going to need to build trust | 11:34 |
| jelkner | so we need to be reliable | 11:35 |
| jelkner | so he knows we are both serious and dependable | 11:35 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 11:35 |
| svaye | +1 | 11:35 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:35 |
| jelkner | So, fkoikoi and svaye, are you two and me the team? | 11:36 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:36 |
| jelkner | LOL svaye hesitates? | 11:36 |
| sysadmin_ | svaye | 11:37 |
| svaye | the others didn't agree on me being in the team | 11:37 |
| sysadmin_ | are you there | 11:37 |
| jelkner | ah | 11:37 |
| jelkner | so when can we know | 11:37 |
| jelkner | ? | 11:37 |
| sysadmin_ | who other svaye | 11:37 |
| jelkner | it is Jetro that should decide | 11:37 |
| jelkner | but i need to know before i can send that email | 11:37 |
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| jelkner | and i will also request that the two of you (and i think it is really important that it be *two* of you) | 11:38 |
| svaye | dcammue, Mulbah, and tboimah didn't agree | 11:38 |
| jelkner | should set up a meeting with the Supe as soon as the election is over | 11:38 |
| jelkner | and make sure he is on board | 11:38 |
| jelkner | he told me he was | 11:38 |
| jelkner | but now he needs to tell you | 11:39 |
| sysadmin_ | Our main focus here is the supe collaboration | 11:39 |
| fkoikoi | okay, we will do that after the break | 11:39 |
| jelkner | when is the break over? | 11:39 |
| sysadmin_ | 16 of October | 11:39 |
| jelkner | let's take just a few more minutes | 11:39 |
| jelkner | ok, let's not meet again until October 17 | 11:40 |
| sysadmin_ | why??? | 11:40 |
| jelkner | by then, you should *PLEASE*: | 11:40 |
| jelkner | Because, sysadmin_, we can't act until you all can act | 11:40 |
| jelkner | i'm waiting for you to decide | 11:40 |
| jelkner | so i can begin planning | 11:41 |
| jelkner | with you | 11:41 |
| jelkner | this is good for us, scooper | 11:41 |
| scooper | I will will remind the supe why we are still on break | 11:41 |
| jelkner | it is part of what Jetro will need to go through | 11:41 |
| scooper | this project is import to us | 11:41 |
| jelkner | and what i hope to talk a lot about next summer | 11:41 |
| jelkner | there is so much to learn about becoming a coop | 11:42 |
| scooper | it will give us space to work in the near future.... | 11:42 |
| jelkner | how to make decisions | 11:42 |
| jelkner | how to resolve conflicts | 11:42 |
| jelkner | how to be effective and accountable | 11:42 |
| jelkner | all of that is at play here and now | 11:42 |
| jelkner | but it is a big process | 11:42 |
| jelkner | and will take time | 11:42 |
| jelkner | years, really, to get good at it | 11:42 |
| jelkner | but we have to start now if we want to get there | 11:43 |
| jelkner | so this is an important decision i am asking Jetro to make | 11:43 |
| jelkner | i want to move ahead with the plan for the school | 11:43 |
| jelkner | it would be such a huge help to us | 11:43 |
| scooper | Are we done for now Jeff???? | 11:43 |
| jelkner | are we? | 11:44 |
| scooper | I m asking because I want share something with you here before my computer go off........ | 11:44 |
| jelkner | ok, scooper, let's talk about Rural Clean Cooking stove | 11:44 |
| jelkner | quick quick | 11:44 |
| scooper | this is Dr Hubard message to me | 11:45 |
| scooper | Hi Spencer, here are more photos from Tanaka. When would you like to discuss them and the websites design over the IRC chat? | 11:45 |
| jelkner | great | 11:45 |
| jelkner | scooper, i talked to Luis over the weekend | 11:45 |
| jelkner | he knows this project is a test for him | 11:45 |
| scooper | Sure | 11:45 |
| jelkner | i want to see how well he can coordinate with you | 11:45 |
| jelkner | and serve a customer | 11:45 |
| jelkner | if you two can do this | 11:45 |
| jelkner | we can get other customers for you | 11:46 |
| scooper | I receive a mail from him yesterday | 11:46 |
| jelkner | awesome | 11:46 |
| jelkner | you don't need me in the middle | 11:46 |
| jelkner | i want to know that i don't need to be in the middle | 11:46 |
| jelkner | that you two can handle a customer on your own | 11:46 |
| scooper | Since Luis is a bit busy I promise to call him today | 11:46 |
| jelkner | my job will be to find more customers | 11:46 |
| scooper | But I m moving forward with the project | 11:46 |
| jelkner | but you have to handle them | 11:46 |
| jelkner | scooper, figure out the best ways to communicate | 11:47 |
| jelkner | that are easy and fast | 11:47 |
| scooper | starting doing the backend function already..... | 11:47 |
| jelkner | and both synchronous and asynchronous | 11:47 |
| scooper | Signal or WHATAPP | 11:47 |
| jelkner | whatever you want | 11:47 |
| jelkner | not my business ;-) | 11:47 |
| jelkner | with me, you can't use WHATSAPP | 11:47 |
| scooper | Jeff I want to put the project on the server | 11:47 |
| jelkner | since it is evil, propriatery software | 11:48 |
| jelkner | and i don't use it ;-) | 11:48 |
| scooper | and keep using git to update it from my own of branch | 11:48 |
| jelkner | but you can use whatever you want with Luis | 11:48 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper, put the project on the server | 11:48 |
| scooper | Then Signal | 11:48 |
| jelkner | it doesn't matter scooper | 11:48 |
| scooper | Ok | 11:48 |
| jelkner | really, in SECOSOL, all the board members use WHATSAPP | 11:49 |
| jelkner | except me ;-) | 11:49 |
| jelkner | i'm fighting the good fight | 11:49 |
| jelkner | trying to help build the world i want to live in | 11:49 |
| scooper | I want you and myself to test the project before showing the little progress I have make to Dr Hubbard | 11:49 |
| jelkner | scooper | 11:50 |
| scooper | +1 | 11:50 |
| jelkner | please try to find another way to do that | 11:50 |
| jelkner | you have to understand | 11:50 |
| jelkner | i am trying to help be the marketing guy for this effort | 11:50 |
| jelkner | i have a dozen projects i'm helping with | 11:50 |
| jelkner | everyone wants me to test effort | 11:51 |
| jelkner | and see what they are doing | 11:51 |
| jelkner | when, my dear friend, can i do it? | 11:51 |
| jelkner | if this is going to work | 11:51 |
| jelkner | the business managers, Kei and Julian | 11:51 |
| jelkner | are going to run the day to day business | 11:51 |
| jelkner | to make sure folks get paid | 11:51 |
| jelkner | and customers are satisfied | 11:52 |
| jelkner | i will be networking and marketing | 11:52 |
| jelkner | that is the role i can do best | 11:52 |
| jelkner | since i'm old | 11:52 |
| jelkner | and i know a lot of people | 11:52 |
| scooper | Ok Jeff I undnerstand | 11:52 |
| jelkner | but please try not to rely on me for testing things out | 11:52 |
| jelkner | did you see Kevin's email? | 11:52 |
| scooper | ok | 11:52 |
| jelkner | he is mad a me for the same reason | 11:53 |
| scooper | -1 | 11:53 |
| jelkner | i forwarded it to jetroweb@novawebdevelopment.org | 11:53 |
| scooper | I think I was it | 11:53 |
| jelkner | and cc'd tboiham and mulbah | 11:53 |
| scooper | where in you mentioned the names of Thomas and Mulbah | 11:53 |
| jelkner | to told them they need to handle kevin | 11:53 |
| jelkner | i just can't do it | 11:53 |
| jelkner | i will collapse if i try to do any more | 11:54 |
| scooper | got you | 11:54 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 11:54 |
| scooper | Before you leave | 11:54 |
| scooper | Can you please place a call to Luis | 11:54 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi and svaye let's meet again on Tuesday, October 17 | 11:54 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper | 11:54 |
| jelkner | i can text him | 11:54 |
| fkoikoi | okay jeff | 11:54 |
| jelkner | if it is brief | 11:54 |
| scooper | that I m hoping to meet with him on ict today by 5pm my time | 11:55 |
| jelkner | i'll text him now | 11:55 |
| scooper | ok | 11:55 |
| jelkner | "Just chatted with scooper." | 11:55 |
| scooper | please give him my signal contact as well | 11:55 |
| jelkner | "he is hoping to meet with you on irc today" | 11:55 |
| scooper | yes | 11:55 |
| jelkner | i don't know how to do that | 11:55 |
| jelkner | you have his email, yes? | 11:55 |
| scooper | yes | 11:56 |
| scooper | If email he already | 11:56 |
| jelkner | send him an email | 11:56 |
| scooper | I email he already | 11:56 |
| jelkner | then i can just text him "please check your email" | 11:56 |
| scooper | NOw??? | 11:56 |
| jelkner | ok fkoikoi and svaye we will meet at 11 am on 10/17 | 11:56 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper, i will text him now | 11:57 |
| jelkner | i'm at work | 11:57 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:57 |
| scooper | ok Jeff | 11:57 |
| jelkner | i have to go | 11:57 |
| scooper | Me too | 11:57 |
| jelkner | see you in a week | 11:57 |
| svaye | Okay Jeff have a nice day | 11:57 |
| jelkner | you too svaye! | 11:57 |
| scooper | I m signing out | 11:57 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:57 |
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| scooper | ACTION leaving now | 11:57 |
| *** scooper has quit (Quit: Leaving) | 11:57 | |
| svaye | ACTION signs off | 11:58 |
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