| Gap | hi jeff it's me Gabriel Washington | 10:22 |
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| fkoikoi | Jeff is not here yet | 10:25 |
| Gap | hey how're you freeena | 10:28 |
| Gap | how's the center rn | 10:28 |
| fkoikoi | I'm good and the center is just here | 10:28 |
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| gabriel_ | when will jeff be online | 10:48 |
| gabriel_ | ?? | 10:48 |
| jelkner | Good morning everyone! | 10:55 |
| fkoikoi | Good Morning Jeff | 10:55 |
| dcammue | Good jelkner | 10:56 |
| jelkner | Apologies for missing our meeting yesterday, fkoikoi | 10:56 |
| fkoikoi | How are you feeling now? | 10:56 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 10:56 |
| jelkner | i'm home again, but "on the mend" as we say | 10:56 |
| jelkner | i'll be going back to work tomorrow | 10:56 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, is it possible for you to get telegram? | 10:56 |
| fkoikoi | sure | 10:57 |
| jelkner | if we could connect by telegram | 10:57 |
| jelkner | i can message you from my phone | 10:57 |
| fkoikoi | Alright | 10:57 |
| jelkner | which will make it easier when last minute changes happen to let you know | 10:57 |
| fkoikoi | I will download it today | 10:57 |
| jelkner | what else is on our agenda this morning fkoikoi? | 10:58 |
| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 10:58 |
| fkoikoi | We are waiting to meet with the sup by 1:00pm | 10:58 |
| jelkner | Good morning fkoikoi | 10:58 |
| jelkner | i mean svaye | 10:59 |
| jelkner | excellent | 10:59 |
| jelkner | tomorrow you can let me know how that went | 10:59 |
| fkoikoi | sure | 10:59 |
| jelkner | are either mulbah or tbiomah around? | 11:00 |
| fkoikoi | tboimah said that he won't be here today because he want to see his mother off before you go | 11:01 |
| jelkner | ok | 11:01 |
| fkoikoi | but mulbah said that he will be here today | 11:01 |
| jelkner | i just wanted to check-in with them to see what they need to get the server setup for RCCS | 11:01 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, i have a request to make of you | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | I think i saw tboimah working on that yesterday | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | what is it Jeff? | 11:02 |
| jelkner | we have our weekly meeting at 1 pm your time on Saturday | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:02 |
| jelkner | NOVA Web Development meets one hour later | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i would like you to attend that meeting too | 11:03 |
| jelkner | they are making real progress getting the business going | 11:03 |
| jelkner | klarios and jmolina are really stepping up managing things | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i think it will help you get an idea what our goal is with Jetro Web to see how they work | 11:04 |
| jelkner | can you do that? | 11:04 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:04 |
| jelkner | great | 11:04 |
| jelkner | svaye, dcammue we need a plan for the "rebranding" | 11:05 |
| svaye | what do you have in mind jelkner | 11:05 |
| jelkner | what do *you* have in mind, svaye?! ;-) | 11:05 |
| jelkner | we are listed here https://ict.gctaa.net/sections/webdev/students.html | 11:06 |
| jelkner | but we don't have a link yet | 11:06 |
| svaye | I have a repo and a link to the page | 11:07 |
| jelkner | please paste it here now | 11:08 |
| jelkner | and i'll link it | 11:08 |
| svaye | this is my repo https://codeberg.org/svaye/pages | 11:08 |
| gabriel_ | hi jeff its me gabreil | 11:09 |
| jelkner | Good morning gabriel_, great to see you! | 11:09 |
| svaye | and this is the website https://svaye.codeberg.page/ | 11:10 |
| gabriel_ | yah | 11:10 |
| jelkner | ok svaye and dcammue | 11:10 |
| jelkner | we need a new location for the rebranded site | 11:10 |
| jelkner | you two are going to keep up with my web class, yes? | 11:11 |
| jelkner | they started CIW Lesson 3 this week | 11:11 |
| gabriel_ | you said we was gonna talk jeff | 11:11 |
| svaye | +1 | 11:11 |
| jelkner | take a look at what the other pairs are doing | 11:11 |
| jelkner | https://evannol.github.io/pasta-place/ | 11:12 |
| jelkner | https://wf11242.github.io/colors/ | 11:12 |
| jelkner | https://conradskelly.github.io/Computer_Parts/ | 11:12 |
| jelkner | https://kate-runion.github.io/Cutest-Pets/ | 11:12 |
| jelkner | our site needs to have same structure (DOM elements) as these do. | 11:13 |
| jelkner | you need to start with the lab 2-1 | 11:13 |
| jelkner | and "rebrand" it for Jetro web | 11:13 |
| svaye | so I and dcammue are pair on this right? | 11:14 |
| jelkner | with me too | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i'll help guide you | 11:14 |
| jelkner | but you need to do the bulk of the work | 11:14 |
| jelkner | let's think where you can put the code | 11:14 |
| jelkner | not in a repo yet | 11:14 |
| jelkner | since you need to "rebrand" first | 11:14 |
| jelkner | that's why i was asking about mulbah | 11:15 |
| jelkner | we need a sys admin to tell you where you can put the code | 11:15 |
| jelkner | just on a shell server somewhere | 11:15 |
| jelkner | once i get to look at it | 11:15 |
| svaye | Okay | 11:15 |
| jelkner | and it is ready | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i'll create a team for our project on codeberg | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and move the code there | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and then all three of us can have commit access | 11:16 |
| jelkner | so, svaye and dcammue, do you know what i am asking? | 11:16 |
| svaye | the rebranding is about Jetrowebdevelopment right? | 11:16 |
| jelkner | yes, it makes total sense for us to use that as our theme | 11:17 |
| svaye | I think I kinda understand what you are asking | 11:17 |
| jelkner | hmmm... | 11:17 |
| jelkner | "think I kinda" doesn't have me convinced ;-) | 11:18 |
| jelkner | scooper1, fkoikoi, this is where some local leadership could be very helpful | 11:18 |
| svaye | I want us to have a place we can put our code on the website but it shouldn't be the repo right? | 11:18 |
| jelkner | do either of you understand what i am asking? | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i'm the customer here | 11:19 |
| jelkner | but you need to understand what the customer wants | 11:19 |
| jelkner | or you can't deliver | 11:19 |
| scooper1 | Sure | 11:19 |
| jelkner | svaye, a website is just a collection of files containing html, css, and (a bit later) javascript | 11:19 |
| scooper1 | What are you really talking about here?? | 11:19 |
| gabriel_ | jeff am I tasks ? | 11:20 |
| jelkner | gabriel_, you're up next | 11:20 |
| jelkner | i don't have to teach today | 11:20 |
| svaye | What you are asking is if we have somewhere on the web but it shouldn't be in the repo right jelkner ? | 11:20 |
| jelkner | so i have more time then usual | 11:20 |
| jelkner | here is the task broken down: | 11:20 |
| gabriel_ | yah jeff am ready to go through | 11:21 |
| jelkner | 1. svaye and dcammue go to the sys admin team and ask for shell accounts | 11:21 |
| jelkner | scooper1, do you have access to a shell server? | 11:21 |
| jelkner | we can use the same one that git.mcssliberia.org is hosted on | 11:22 |
| scooper1 | no, only the mcsstudents server I have access to | 11:22 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, can you ask mulbah to be here at out meeting tomorrow? | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i will only have 10 minutes then | 11:23 |
| jelkner | so he needs to be on time | 11:23 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:23 |
| jelkner | thank you | 11:23 |
| scooper1 | before you leave | 11:23 |
| jelkner | svaye, dcammue just work on local machines no | 11:24 |
| jelkner | now | 11:24 |
| jelkner | scooper1, i'm about to talk with you and gabriel_ | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i'm not leaving | 11:24 |
| scooper1 | ok | 11:24 |
| jelkner | tomorrow i will only have 10 minutes | 11:24 |
| gabriel_ | hey jeff | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i'm home today | 11:24 |
| gabriel_ | okay | 11:24 |
| jelkner | svaye, dcammue are we clear? | 11:24 |
| jelkner | download the lab 2-1 on your local computer | 11:25 |
| svaye | +1 | 11:25 |
| jelkner | and begin rebranding it | 11:25 |
| jelkner | when mulbah is here | 11:25 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:25 |
| jelkner | i will ask him to setup shell accounts for the three of us | 11:25 |
| jelkner | then we can move the code there | 11:25 |
| jelkner | great, to be continued tomorrow then... | 11:25 |
| jelkner | ok gabriel_ are you joining the Jetro web project now? | 11:26 |
| svaye | Are you done with us Jeff? | 11:26 |
| jelkner | you tell me, svaye ;=-) | 11:26 |
| jelkner | if you are clear, we are done | 11:27 |
| gabriel_ | yes i am | 11:27 |
| jelkner | excellent | 11:27 |
| jelkner | so, fkoikoi have you talked with gabriel_ about what role he wants to play? | 11:27 |
| fkoikoi | not yet | 11:28 |
| svaye | I will ask the sysadmin team to set up the shell server and start the rebranding of lab 2-1 | 11:28 |
| gabriel_ | but i told you previously fkoikoi | 11:28 |
| jelkner | gabriel_, fkoikoi is Jetro's business manager | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so the first stop is to talk with her about what you want to do | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i'm just here to help you all skill up | 11:29 |
| fkoikoi | gabriel_ you didn't decide on which group you want to be part of | 11:29 |
| jelkner | we have three learning groups currently gabriel_ | 11:29 |
| gabriel_ | aww that's great to know but i do discuss with her last week when i was at the center and i told her we're gonna study together | 11:29 |
| jelkner | you need to decide which group you would like to be part of | 11:29 |
| gabriel_ | it's programming i wanna do | 11:30 |
| jelkner | excellent! | 11:30 |
| jelkner | so gabriel_ | 11:30 |
| fkoikoi | yes you told me that we should be studying together | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i work with the front-end web and programming groups | 11:30 |
| jelkner | so if programming is your choice, you'll be working with me | 11:31 |
| jelkner | gabriel_, let me look if you have a NOVA Web email address | 11:31 |
| jelkner | gabriel_, remind me of your last name? | 11:32 |
| fkoikoi | washington | 11:32 |
| gabriel_ | am studying full stock development at ALX software engineer program | 11:32 |
| jelkner | ah yes, how could i forget! | 11:32 |
| gabriel_ | hahaha | 11:33 |
| jelkner | where are you studying? | 11:33 |
| gabriel_ | i hope so :_) | 11:33 |
| jelkner | full stack | 11:33 |
| gabriel_ | online | 11:33 |
| jelkner | so i will be asking you to earn your PCEP certification | 11:33 |
| jelkner | i will pay for itr | 11:33 |
| jelkner | it | 11:33 |
| jelkner | but i want you to get it | 11:33 |
| gabriel_ | okay | 11:34 |
| jelkner | https://pythoninstitute.org/pcep | 11:34 |
| jelkner | i set up access to online materials for that | 11:34 |
| jelkner | so give me a few minutes so i can add you | 11:34 |
| gabriel_ | should i use the link to apply | 11:34 |
| gabriel_ | ?? | 11:35 |
| jelkner | no | 11:35 |
| jelkner | just wait | 11:35 |
| gabriel_ | okay | 11:35 |
| jelkner | gabriel_, do you see my private message? | 11:38 |
| jelkner | i'll give you your password there | 11:38 |
| jelkner | gabriel_? | 11:39 |
| fkoikoi | mulbah is here Jeff | 11:39 |
| gabriel_ | yah i did | 11:39 |
| jelkner | write back to me there | 11:39 |
| fkoikoi | he is trying to connect | 11:39 |
| jelkner | great | 11:41 |
| mulbah | Good morning | 11:44 |
| svaye | Good morning mulbah | 11:45 |
| jelkner | Good morning mulbah | 11:46 |
| jelkner | i'm working with gabriel_ | 11:46 |
| jelkner | i'll follow up with you when i finish | 11:46 |
| gabriel_ | jeff login not going through | 11:49 |
| jelkner | gabriel_, please ask mulbah to help you | 11:49 |
| jelkner | it works | 11:49 |
| jelkner | i just tried it | 11:49 |
| jelkner | mulbah, i'm trying to get the programming group going | 11:50 |
| jelkner | gabriel is going to join them | 11:50 |
| jelkner | i just created a nova web email for him | 11:50 |
| jelkner | and subscribed him to the CISCO Networking Academy class i have set up | 11:51 |
| mulbah | okay | 11:51 |
| jelkner | he should have received an invite through his email | 11:51 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, scooper1 you two are in that class too | 11:51 |
| jelkner | and Sahnun | 11:51 |
| jelkner | have you logged in to see what's there? | 11:51 |
| gabriel_ | which email? | 11:52 |
| mulbah | I'm in the class | 11:52 |
| scooper1 | +1 | 11:52 |
| scooper1 | but once | 11:52 |
| mulbah | jeff | 11:52 |
| jelkner | gabriel.wasthington@novawebdevelopment.org | 11:52 |
| jelkner | scooper1, you should try to go through the curriculum | 11:52 |
| jelkner | when you finish, you will have all the Python you need for the PCEP | 11:52 |
| jelkner | All my students will take it by January | 11:53 |
| jelkner | i've been preparing them in class | 11:53 |
| jelkner | i can share those materials with you | 11:53 |
| jelkner | but you need to use them | 11:53 |
| scooper1 | ok planning to do so latest tomorrow | 11:53 |
| gabriel_ | still trying to jeff | 11:53 |
| jelkner | is mulbah helping you? | 11:53 |
| mulbah | I'm not around he jeff | 11:54 |
| mulbah | he is not at the lab | 11:54 |
| fkoikoi | gabriel_ is not at the lab | 11:54 |
| scooper1 | I saw at I m gearing to testing it too by then | 11:54 |
| jelkner | gabriel_, you really need to come to the lab | 11:54 |
| jelkner | if you want to be part of this project | 11:54 |
| jelkner | we need people to collaborate | 11:54 |
| gabriel_ | okay | 11:54 |
| scooper1 | before you leave let talk here Jeff......... | 11:55 |
| jelkner | mulbah, he needs to visit https://mail.novawebdevelopment.org/mail/ | 11:55 |
| gabriel_ | so who are my team members? | 11:55 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi and scooper1 | 11:55 |
| jelkner | with Sahnun and me helping mentor you | 11:55 |
| gabriel_ | okay | 11:55 |
| jelkner | gabriel_, this is the link to my Python class: | 11:56 |
| jelkner | https://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc221/ | 11:56 |
| jelkner | i need you to follow along | 11:56 |
| jelkner | i don't have time to prepare a separate class | 11:56 |
| jelkner | you need to follow the one i am already preparing | 11:56 |
| jelkner | scooper1, i have a quiz i just gave the class last week | 11:57 |
| scooper1 | You would mine I participate in the quiz too??? | 11:58 |
| svaye | I have to go now jelkner, I will let you know when we get things set up | 11:59 |
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| jelkner | that's why i'm telling you scooper1 | 11:59 |
| jelkner | but we can't do it the same way | 11:59 |
| jelkner | i give them the quiz on paper in class | 12:00 |
| jelkner | i obviously can't do that with you | 12:00 |
| scooper1 | How you want it be done Jeff?? | 12:00 |
| jelkner | i'll just share it with you scooper1 | 12:00 |
| svaye | ACTION signs off | 12:00 |
| jelkner | https://gitlab.com/jelkner/csc221/-/blob/master/PY4E/Lesson07/Quiz.md | 12:00 |
| jelkner | Grades were all over the place | 12:01 |
| jelkner | a few students scored very well, but most did not | 12:01 |
| jelkner | so now i know how far we have to go to get ready for PCEP | 12:01 |
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| jelkner | you should give this quiz to the three of you | 12:01 |
| jelkner | and then grade it | 12:02 |
| scooper1 | the question run from 1 to 18 | 12:02 |
| jelkner | and then talk to me about any questions you have | 12:02 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:02 |
| jelkner | i don't have answers here ;-) | 12:02 |
| jelkner | so you try to figure them out first | 12:02 |
| jelkner | then we can talk | 12:02 |
| scooper1 | ok | 12:03 |
| jelkner | for many of them, you just ask the ultimate authority, the Python REPL | 12:03 |
| jelkner | but that is cheating! | 12:03 |
| jelkner | you need to figure it out on your own first | 12:03 |
| jelkner | you need to "be the computer" | 12:03 |
| scooper1 | sure | 12:04 |
| jelkner | as i tell my students | 12:04 |
| scooper1 | I will do that Jeff | 12:04 |
| jelkner | great | 12:04 |
| jelkner | ok anything else before i go? | 12:04 |
| scooper1 | I want us talk before you leave | 12:04 |
| scooper1 | yes | 12:04 |
| scooper1 | concerning the rural cooking project | 12:04 |
| scooper1 | should I talk about it now?? | 12:04 |
| jelkner | sure | 12:04 |
| gabriel_ | okay jeff am in with my phone rn am trying to access it on my computer | 12:04 |
| jelkner | gabriel_, you have your task | 12:05 |
| jelkner | you need to rely on the team | 12:05 |
| jelkner | not me | 12:05 |
| jelkner | so next time i talk to you | 12:05 |
| gabriel_ | ok.. | 12:05 |
| gabriel_ | so what's the task i have than? | 12:06 |
| jelkner | you will have access to your email and have replied to the link inviting you to the CISCO Academy | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i've done my part here | 12:06 |
| jelkner | now it is your turn! | 12:06 |
| scooper1 | The ip address the cleancookingsysteming is point too is different from what Hetzner give | 12:06 |
| scooper1 | and that is not my fault..... | 12:06 |
| jelkner | scooper1, i can't help with that | 12:06 |
| scooper1 | the system admin recommend | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i just don't know it well enough | 12:07 |
| jelkner | and i'm over extended | 12:07 |
| scooper1 | that I reset the server, | 12:07 |
| jelkner | scooper1, question for you... | 12:07 |
| jelkner | who are our most skilled sys admins? | 12:07 |
| gabriel_ | which email you're talking about jeff because ain't using that first email i do lost the password since than haven't recover it yet | 12:07 |
| scooper1 | Even if I restart this server from now still Judgement day the id address the domain name is currently pointing to will not change | 12:07 |
| scooper1 | still we ask that Hubbard | 12:08 |
| jelkner | scooper1, please answer my question | 12:08 |
| scooper1 | mulbah and thomas | 12:08 |
| jelkner | to start witj | 12:08 |
| jelkner | with | 12:08 |
| jelkner | and if they can't solve the problem? | 12:08 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, this is really important for you to pay attention to | 12:09 |
| fkoikoi | am here Jeff | 12:09 |
| jelkner | we won't be successful until we learn where to go to get the help we need | 12:10 |
| jelkner | scooper1 is having sys admin troubles | 12:10 |
| jelkner | and he is coming to me for help | 12:10 |
| jelkner | that is a mistake | 12:10 |
| jelkner | i can't help with that | 12:10 |
| jelkner | you can't either, fkoikoi | 12:10 |
| jelkner | but what you and i both need to know, is where we can get help | 12:10 |
| scooper1 | can I place the project on mcssstudents server still our sys admin solve our problem | 12:10 |
| scooper1 | the client need to see what we are doing?? | 12:11 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, what would you say to scooper1's question? | 12:11 |
| scooper1 | With this the client will know where we are serious doing his work??? that is my recommendation or suggestion | 12:11 |
| jelkner | scooper1, an email to dr. hubbard can take care of that | 12:12 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, can you answer please? | 12:12 |
| fkoikoi | Jeff, I will say that he should the means that is available while he look for to getting help from the sys admin | 12:13 |
| gabriel_ | jeff, to activate my account in my country of origin changes need to be done, how am i gonna change the country of origin from united kingdom to my country liberia | 12:14 |
| gabriel_ | ?? | 12:14 |
| jelkner | great, gabriel_ you're into the CISCO Academy | 12:14 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, the reason that i asked you to start attending the NOVA Web meetings | 12:15 |
| fkoikoi | Jeff, I will say that he should used the means that is available while he look forward to getting help from the sys admin | 12:15 |
| jelkner | is that part of your job will be to get to know *everyone*, and what they can do | 12:15 |
| jelkner | you and i are acting as project managers | 12:15 |
| jelkner | our job is not to know how to do everything, that is impossible | 12:16 |
| jelkner | instead, we need to know who can do what needs to be done | 12:16 |
| jelkner | let me give you a quick summary of the sys admin resources we have available | 12:16 |
| jelkner | ready? | 12:16 |
| jelkner | you should take notes | 12:16 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 12:16 |
| scooper1 | secondly I need to talk to Dr. Hubbard concerning this, | 12:16 |
| jelkner | scooper1, please email him | 12:16 |
| jelkner | and cc me | 12:16 |
| scooper1 | I use this website concerning this mxtoolbox.com | 12:17 |
| jelkner | first line we have our young aspiring sys admins: mulbah and tboimah | 12:17 |
| jelkner | they are smart and hard working, but still very inexperienced | 12:17 |
| jelkner | so often times they will not know what to do | 12:17 |
| jelkner | but they should know to ask for help from their mentor kevin first | 12:18 |
| jelkner | kevin is great, but he is retired and his skills are getting old | 12:18 |
| jelkner | he also doesn't do much with networking | 12:18 |
| jelkner | since that was not his job | 12:18 |
| jelkner | so, if he is stuck | 12:18 |
| jelkner | who can they ask? | 12:18 |
| jelkner | well, we have a few great resources | 12:19 |
| jelkner | but they are only available at very limited times | 12:19 |
| jelkner | thursdays from 5 to 7 pm my time | 12:19 |
| jelkner | which means 9 to 11 pm your time | 12:19 |
| jelkner | late | 12:19 |
| jelkner | i know | 12:19 |
| jelkner | I have a former student who is a *very skilled* dev opts pro | 12:20 |
| jelkner | Matt Gallagher | 12:20 |
| jelkner | he shows up in my classroom every week between 5 and 7 pm | 12:20 |
| jelkner | Toby Michelson is there then too | 12:20 |
| fkoikoi | but what about tmickelson Jeff | 12:20 |
| jelkner | Toby comes earlier | 12:20 |
| jelkner | tmickelson is Toby | 12:20 |
| jelkner | but is Toby is stuck, we go to Matt | 12:21 |
| scooper1 | For now can I place the project on our server so Dr. Hubbard can see how far we gone???? | 12:21 |
| jelkner | sometimes Toby gets stuck | 12:21 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper1 | 12:21 |
| jelkner | you're the boss | 12:21 |
| jelkner | do what you think is best | 12:21 |
| scooper1 | Thanks elkner | 12:21 |
| jelkner | We got really luck that Aaron Rachach stopped by for a visit a few weeks back | 12:22 |
| jelkner | Toby didn't know how to fix the gittea server | 12:22 |
| jelkner | Aaron showed him | 12:22 |
| jelkner | now it is running again | 12:22 |
| jelkner | we will miss having Aaron around | 12:23 |
| fkoikoi | Are the active on the zulip chat | 12:23 |
| fkoikoi | ?? | 12:23 |
| jelkner | who? | 12:23 |
| scooper1 | Jeff from my little research I think the problem is coming from Dr. Hubbard end... | 12:23 |
| jelkner | don't tell me scooper1 | 12:23 |
| jelkner | i can't help | 12:23 |
| fkoikoi | tmickelson, Aaron and Matt | 12:23 |
| jelkner | tmickelson yes | 12:23 |
| jelkner | don't count on Aaron and Matt | 12:24 |
| jelkner | Matt comes for 2 hours each week | 12:24 |
| jelkner | that is the only time i count on him | 12:24 |
| scooper1 | the the domain he give me cleancookingsystem.org.cn is pointing to difference ip address instead of the once hetzner give us... | 12:24 |
| jelkner | so we need to plan | 12:24 |
| jelkner | to get the help we need | 12:24 |
| jelkner | if we want Matt's help | 12:24 |
| scooper1 | and that was in existence before I buy the server | 12:24 |
| scooper1 | ok | 12:24 |
| jelkner | we need to be ready to ask him when he shows up at 5 pm on thursday | 12:24 |
| jelkner | otherwise, we wait another week | 12:25 |
| jelkner | he is a volunteer | 12:25 |
| scooper1 | I m always at their meeting | 12:25 |
| jelkner | we need to respect his time | 12:25 |
| scooper1 | but most time they don't turn up Jeff | 12:25 |
| jelkner | he is very reliable within those parameters | 12:25 |
| jelkner | understand, fkoikoi? | 12:25 |
| jelkner | not true, scooper1 | 12:25 |
| fkoikoi | okay, that will be 9pm my time right? | 12:25 |
| jelkner | matt shows up every week | 12:25 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:25 |
| fkoikoi | okay Jeff | 12:26 |
| jelkner | scooper1, if you like, we can plan for this thursday | 12:27 |
| jelkner | from 9 to 10 pm your time | 12:27 |
| jelkner | and i can message matt and tmickelson | 12:27 |
| jelkner | to get them ready | 12:27 |
| scooper1 | I m available jelkner | 12:27 |
| jelkner | but then you have to be ready | 12:27 |
| jelkner | ok, let's schedule that time then | 12:27 |
| scooper1 | this is our first task some it mean a lot to me | 12:28 |
| gabriel_ | jeff i did with the default setting am in now | 12:28 |
| jelkner | great gabriel_ | 12:28 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper1 | 12:28 |
| scooper1 | Back to the python quiz | 12:28 |
| jelkner | it means a lot to me too | 12:28 |
| scooper1 | All of our response should be placed in md and email to you right???? | 12:28 |
| jelkner | scooper1, you should manage that | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i am so over extended | 12:29 |
| jelkner | please don't give me more work to do | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i will collapse | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i can't do it | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i am alway behind | 12:30 |
| jelkner | because i am trying to do too much | 12:30 |
| jelkner | you need to learn to organize yourselves as a learning group | 12:30 |
| jelkner | like university students do | 12:30 |
| scooper1 | ok got you | 12:30 |
| jelkner | they meet together, go over the material | 12:30 |
| jelkner | and only come to the prof (that's me in this case) | 12:31 |
| jelkner | when they are all stuck | 12:31 |
| jelkner | and have a question | 12:31 |
| jelkner | i would be thrilled to discuss problems like that | 12:31 |
| jelkner | but do your work | 12:31 |
| jelkner | don't come to me with things you can do on your own | 12:31 |
| fkoikoi | so where is the link for the quiz jelkner? | 12:32 |
| jelkner | scooper1 has it fkoikoi | 12:32 |
| scooper1 | https://gitlab.com/jelkner/csc221/-/blob/master/PY4E/Lesson07/Quiz.md | 12:32 |
| jelkner | thanks, scooper1 | 12:32 |
| fkoikoi | thanks | 12:32 |
| scooper1 | you are welcome partner | 12:33 |
| jelkner | ;-) | 12:33 |
| jelkner | since so many students struggled with this | 12:33 |
| jelkner | i have another quiz that i'll be giving them next week | 12:33 |
| jelkner | with similar questions | 12:33 |
| jelkner | i'll share that with you too | 12:33 |
| jelkner | after i give it | 12:34 |
| jelkner | since i don't want it in my repo *before* i give it | 12:34 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else before i go? | 12:34 |
| jelkner | gabriel_, scooper1, fkoikoi | 12:35 |
| fkoikoi | -1 | 12:35 |
| scooper1 | -1 | 12:35 |
| jelkner | when you are ready for the PCEP, i will purchase vouchers | 12:35 |
| jelkner | -1? | 12:35 |
| jelkner | oh, lol | 12:35 |
| jelkner | i get it | 12:35 |
| scooper1 | By January Jeff | 12:35 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:35 |
| scooper1 | I will be ready fully by than | 12:36 |
| jelkner | but we have one more issue | 12:36 |
| jelkner | we need a proctor | 12:36 |
| jelkner | someone in MCSS would be best | 12:36 |
| jelkner | who can watch while you take the exam | 12:36 |
| scooper1 | I will make the supe my project or the assist supe | 12:36 |
| jelkner | when you meet with the Supe today, can you ask for suggestions? | 12:36 |
| scooper1 | **proctor | 12:36 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 12:37 |
| scooper1 | Sure | 12:37 |
| jelkner | scooper1, you will be the perfect proctor | 12:37 |
| jelkner | but you can't proctor yourself | 12:37 |
| scooper1 | ok | 12:37 |
| jelkner | so we need a proctor just for you | 12:37 |
| scooper1 | got you | 12:37 |
| jelkner | then you can proctor everyone else | 12:37 |
| scooper1 | the supe will be my proctor | 12:37 |
| jelkner | he is too busy | 12:37 |
| jelkner | he needs to sign up as a proctor | 12:38 |
| jelkner | create an account on the system | 12:38 |
| jelkner | not sure he can do that | 12:38 |
| jelkner | you can ask him | 12:38 |
| scooper1 | or the assist supe just in case the supe is busy | 12:38 |
| jelkner | there you go | 12:38 |
| jelkner | find someone who is willing to do that | 12:38 |
| jelkner | scooper1, let's make it a goal to get you through the exam first | 12:38 |
| jelkner | so you can proctor the others | 12:39 |
| scooper1 | ok | 12:39 |
| jelkner | really focus on that please | 12:39 |
| jelkner | i'll tell Sahnun | 12:39 |
| jelkner | he wants you to do JavaScript first because he know it | 12:39 |
| jelkner | but it would help if you did this Python cert first | 12:39 |
| jelkner | we plan to meet for breakfast again on Saturday | 12:40 |
| jelkner | i'll talk to him | 12:40 |
| jelkner | ok fkoikoi, see you tomorrow at 11 am your time | 12:40 |
| scooper1 | we been studying | 12:40 |
| jelkner | i'll only have 10 minutes | 12:40 |
| fkoikoi | alright Jeff | 12:41 |
| jelkner | so let's be organized | 12:41 |
| jelkner | this was great, btw | 12:41 |
| jelkner | we got a lot done | 12:41 |
| jelkner | scooper1, studying what? | 12:41 |
| scooper1 | Moreover I send him a JS book I got from a friend called Ninji js | 12:41 |
| jelkner | there are so many books | 12:41 |
| jelkner | scooper1, it is great to look at a lot of different things | 12:42 |
| scooper1 | I been studying js with Sahnun few weeks ago | 12:42 |
| scooper1 | since I started working on that project..... | 12:42 |
| jelkner | but i can provide structure and accountability here with the PCEP cert as a goal | 12:42 |
| jelkner | that will give us measurable progress | 12:42 |
| jelkner | so please focus on that first | 12:42 |
| jelkner | get your PCEP | 12:42 |
| jelkner | then you can do whatever you want | 12:42 |
| scooper1 | I study python every day Jeff | 12:43 |
| jelkner | have you been using the CISCO Academy resource? | 12:43 |
| jelkner | it will help | 12:43 |
| jelkner | since it is focused totally on the PCEP | 12:43 |
| scooper1 | no | 12:43 |
| jelkner | you should | 12:43 |
| scooper1 | ok | 12:43 |
| scooper1 | I will | 12:43 |
| jelkner | i just asked gabriel_ to do that too | 12:43 |
| jelkner | if the three of you worked together | 12:44 |
| jelkner | forming that "university study group" i talked about earlier | 12:44 |
| jelkner | then i could really help you | 12:44 |
| scooper1 | If gabriel is willing to join he need to come to the lab | 12:44 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:44 |
| jelkner | i told him that | 12:44 |
| scooper1 | not coming once in a while | 12:44 |
| jelkner | we need people who are serious | 12:45 |
| jelkner | dependable | 12:45 |
| jelkner | and disciplined | 12:45 |
| jelkner | that is the only way we will succeed | 12:45 |
| jelkner | ok all, enjoy your afternoon | 12:46 |
| scooper1 | thanks Jeff | 12:46 |
| jelkner | i can't wait to hear how your meeting goes with the Supe | 12:46 |
| scooper1 | ACTION signing out | 12:46 |
| jelkner | see you tomorrow | 12:46 |
| jelkner | ACTION signing out | 12:46 |
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