| fkoikoi | Good Morning Jeff | 10:47 |
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| jelkner | Good morning Freena | 10:52 |
| jelkner | I've been battling a cold. | 10:52 |
| jelkner | It is messing with my head. | 10:52 |
| jelkner | I feel "cloudy". | 10:52 |
| fkoikoi_ | oh | 10:52 |
| fkoikoi_ | sorry for that | 10:52 |
| jelkner | And have been doing things like missing my meeting with Shallon and Daniel yesterday. | 10:53 |
| jelkner | Did you see my email about that? | 10:53 |
| fkoikoi_ | Yes | 10:53 |
| jelkner | Yesterday morning I started the coffee machine and forgot to put the cup under it. | 10:53 |
| jelkner | The coffee spilled all over, including on some of my books :-( | 10:54 |
| jelkner | Anyway, we need to keep moving forward even when we're not 100%. | 10:55 |
| fkoikoi_ | so sorry Jeff, speedy recovery | 10:55 |
| jelkner | thanks | 10:55 |
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| jelkner | what is our plan for Saturday, fkoikoi_? | 10:55 |
| fkoikoi_ | Good Morning scooper1 | 10:55 |
| jelkner | Good morning scooper1 | 10:56 |
| fkoikoi_ | I wanted us to discussed about how we can move forward since we are still waiting to meet with the sup | 10:57 |
| scooper1 | Good morning fkoikoi and jelkner | 10:57 |
| fkoikoi_ | hopefully next week because he said we should meet him in two weeks time | 10:58 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, it's really important to understand that in a big process like Jetro Web Development | 10:58 |
| jelkner | there are *always* things that need to be done | 10:58 |
| dcammue | Good morning jelkner fkoikoi_ and scooper1 | 10:58 |
| scooper1 | good morning DC nike | 10:58 |
| fkoikoi_ | Good Morning dcammue | 10:58 |
| jelkner | when we are blocking on one (like the location for the school), for example | 10:58 |
| jelkner | we have so many other things to focus on | 10:59 |
| jelkner | a successful business will require, among other things: | 10:59 |
| jelkner | 1. a place to do business (that's what the school is about) | 10:59 |
| jelkner | 2. a skilled development team (which is, basically, the "product" of the business) | 11:00 |
| jelkner | 3. a skilled management team (that keeps the business flowing and manages relations with customers) | 11:00 |
| jelkner | we are a long way from where we need to be on all three of these | 11:00 |
| jelkner | so the fact that we are blocking on 1 for the now, in no way prevents us from moving forward on 2 and 3 | 11:01 |
| jelkner | does that make sense? | 11:01 |
| scooper1 | +1 | 11:01 |
| fkoikoi_ | sure | 11:01 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:01 |
| fkoikoi_ | 100% correct | 11:01 |
| jelkner | so, i can ask my questions again, fkoikoi_, what is on our agenda for Saturday? | 11:01 |
| fkoikoi_ | the first item on our agenda for saturday is | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi_ | 1. Update from each group | 11:02 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, may i make another suggestion? | 11:04 |
| fkoikoi_ | 2. Discussion on about the training of students (which is still far) | 11:04 |
| fkoikoi_ | Go ahead Jeff | 11:04 |
| jelkner | you should begin to "see yourself" as a core part of the management group | 11:05 |
| jelkner | since you agreed to take on this role | 11:05 |
| jelkner | the management group at the moment for this broad effort (Jetro and NOVA Web) is: | 11:06 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, scooper, klarios, jmolina, and jelkner | 11:06 |
| jelkner | scooper1 says he is focusing mainly on learning to be a developer | 11:06 |
| jelkner | but he is objectively in the management group | 11:06 |
| jelkner | (he manages the money, for example, which is obviously a critical role) | 11:07 |
| jelkner | connection troubles, fkoikoi_? | 11:07 |
| fkoikoi | yes | 11:07 |
| fkoikoi | but I'm back | 11:08 |
| jelkner | the more our infrastructure becomes reliable, the better we will be able to thrive | 11:08 |
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| jelkner | ok, i'm not sure what you missed | 11:08 |
| jelkner | i'm talking about the management team | 11:08 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, are you here? | 11:09 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 11:09 |
| fkoikoi | I just read the IRC | 11:09 |
| jelkner | great | 11:09 |
| jelkner | so, klarios and jmolina seem to be stepping into the business management role very effectively | 11:10 |
| jelkner | i encourage you to get to know them, and to work with them | 11:10 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 11:10 |
| jelkner | a business management team is what NOVA Web Development never had | 11:10 |
| jelkner | i believe that explains why we have not be able to "make it" during the 11 years we have been operating | 11:11 |
| jelkner | i am focusing on what i know how to do here | 11:11 |
| jelkner | building the development team | 11:11 |
| jelkner | we always had a strong development team | 11:12 |
| jelkner | stefan and adrian are professional level developers | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we just didn't know how to do sales and marketing | 11:12 |
| jelkner | to find work | 11:12 |
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| jelkner | that is what klarios and jmolina will be focusing on | 11:13 |
| jelkner | as we continue to rebuild the team | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i have many students interested in working with us as developers | 11:13 |
| jelkner | so prospects look solid for having a skilled workforce | 11:13 |
| jelkner | but Jetro is a key part of this | 11:13 |
| jelkner | since the young folks here will come and go | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i am hopiing that Jetro will become the solid foundation that help make this project work | 11:14 |
| jelkner | soon, fkoikoi, we should begin talking about our goals for my visit this Summer | 11:14 |
| jelkner | and when i should come | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i have a plan with kevin to meet for dinner at the saloon on saturday, november 25 | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i'm hoping to talk with Commy at least briefly then about the timeline for the school project | 11:16 |
| jelkner | we want to focus on all three goals during my visit | 11:16 |
| jelkner | but it will help to have more information about what is possible for the school project | 11:16 |
| jelkner | in my mind, i am hoping summer 2025 would be the time to build the school | 11:17 |
| jelkner | but i don't know is that is reasonable | 11:17 |
| jelkner | dcammue, how are things coming with the rebrand? | 11:18 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i am hoping you and svaye will give me a starter page to work with | 11:18 |
| jelkner | you give it to me | 11:18 |
| jelkner | and then i setup the git repo | 11:18 |
| dcammue | We did not see you yesterday | 11:18 |
| jelkner | yes, my friend | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i forgot | 11:18 |
| jelkner | did you see my email¿ | 11:18 |
| jelkner | ? | 11:18 |
| dcammue | issue with my nova account | 11:19 |
| jelkner | dcammue, please get that fixed! | 11:19 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:19 |
| jelkner | i don't know what you mean by "issue" | 11:19 |
| dcammue | I will get it from svaye | 11:19 |
| dcammue | can not access | 11:20 |
| fkoikoi | he's finding it difficult to login | 11:20 |
| jelkner | ok, so this is a great "test" for your team, fkoikoi | 11:20 |
| jelkner | we are a tech business | 11:20 |
| jelkner | you have a tech problem | 11:20 |
| jelkner | you need to work together to resolve it | 11:21 |
| jelkner | dcammue, you should probably start with scooper1 | 11:21 |
| jelkner | if he can't help you | 11:21 |
| jelkner | he needs to know who can | 11:21 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:21 |
| jelkner | jmolina i believe is handling that now | 11:21 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:21 |
| jelkner | but ask klarios or jmolina | 11:21 |
| dcammue | So when we will meet again to discuss about the shell account | 11:22 |
| jelkner | dcammue, what i planned to do yesterday, we can do right now | 11:22 |
| jelkner | i have a shell account on students.mcssliberia.org | 11:23 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i logged in and saw that you and svaye both have accounts too | 11:23 |
| dcammue | but the rebrang is with svaye | 11:23 |
| dcammue | *rebrand* | 11:23 |
| jelkner | dcammue, your task is to work with svaye to get the first draft of the rebrand finished | 11:24 |
| jelkner | then to come to me and say, "hey jelkner, it's ready" | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i will then take it and set up a git repo | 11:24 |
| dcammue | we did it on her computer | 11:24 |
| jelkner | put it on the server | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i can't see it on her computer | 11:24 |
| jelkner | but i can see it in her account on students.mcssliberial.org | 11:25 |
| jelkner | students.mcssliberia.org | 11:25 |
| dcammue | is not in the server | 11:25 |
| jelkner | yes, my friend, i know that | 11:25 |
| jelkner | that's the problem ;-) | 11:25 |
| jelkner | you need to put it there | 11:25 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:25 |
| jelkner | ask scooper1, or tboimah or mulbah to help you | 11:26 |
| jelkner | we need to move forward with our skills | 11:26 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:26 |
| jelkner | you have been given a task | 11:26 |
| dcammue | I will do sir | 11:26 |
| jelkner | great! ;-) | 11:26 |
| dcammue | *Sir* | 11:26 |
| fkoikoi | Happy Thanks giving day everyone | 11:27 |
| jelkner | can you do that by saturday? | 11:27 |
| scooper1 | Thanks fkoikoi | 11:27 |
| jelkner | is today thanks giving? | 11:27 |
| dcammue | seem to you jelkner | 11:27 |
| scooper1 | +1 | 11:27 |
| jelkner | for us it is november 23 | 11:27 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:27 |
| jelkner | well happy thanks giving then! | 11:28 |
| jelkner | ok fkoikoi and scooper1 and dcammue, i have to go | 11:28 |
| scooper1 | ok jelkner | 11:28 |
| jelkner | actually, scooper1 | 11:28 |
| dcammue | Have a nice day | 11:28 |
| jelkner | a question for you | 11:28 |
| scooper1 | yes | 11:28 |
| jelkner | how is the python group doing? | 11:28 |
| jelkner | i haven't heard a peep from you | 11:28 |
| jelkner | are you on track to take the PCEP by January? | 11:29 |
| scooper1 | ye | 11:29 |
| scooper1 | yes | 11:29 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:29 |
| scooper1 | the python group is ok with few person coordinating | 11:29 |
| scooper1 | scooper and fkoikoi | 11:29 |
| jelkner | what about gabriel? | 11:29 |
| jelkner | is he going to join you? | 11:30 |
| scooper1 | but the other, especially janet and gabriels | 11:30 |
| jelkner | and what happened to janet? | 11:30 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, these personel questions are in my mind | 11:30 |
| scooper1 | they are a bit reluctant | 11:30 |
| jelkner | so that is an important part of what we need to figure out | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking that 3 years from now we will want to be a group of around 30 people | 11:31 |
| scooper1 | in coming to the lab and executing their duty | 11:31 |
| jelkner | so, if they don't show | 11:31 |
| jelkner | we know they aren't serious | 11:31 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, it will be important to recruit new members | 11:31 |
| jelkner | so that over time, we can grow to where we want to be | 11:31 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 11:32 |
| jelkner | it is through our day to day practice we get to know who we can trust | 11:32 |
| jelkner | we have a core of two in each tech team | 11:32 |
| scooper1 | I been asking fkoikoi and other forks about Janet but no one can give a solid reason why she is not regular like bfore | 11:32 |
| jelkner | python: fkoikoi and scooper1 | 11:32 |
| scooper1 | before | 11:32 |
| jelkner | html / css / javascript: dcammue and svaye | 11:32 |
| jelkner | sys admin: tboimah and mulbah | 11:32 |
| jelkner | if we can get fkoikoi and scooper1 to pass the PCEP | 11:33 |
| jelkner | and dcammue and svaye to pass the Advanced HTML5 & CSS3 Specialist | 11:33 |
| jelkner | we will have made great progress | 11:33 |
| jelkner | we will want to website | 11:33 |
| jelkner | to market our success | 11:34 |
| jelkner | and to begin to seek funding | 11:34 |
| jelkner | for our project | 11:34 |
| jelkner | we will also need to begin expanding the team | 11:34 |
| jelkner | we need to recruit MCSS's best students! | 11:34 |
| jelkner | who have an interest in tech | 11:34 |
| scooper1 | sure | 11:34 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:35 |
| fkoikoi | my computer is going off Jeff | 11:35 |
| jelkner | ok, fkoikoi see you saturday | 11:35 |
| jelkner | bye for now | 11:35 |
| fkoikoi | alright | 11:35 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until saturday | 11:35 |
| fkoikoi | bye everyone | 11:35 |
| scooper1 | ok | 11:35 |
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| dcammue | okay | 11:36 |
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| scooper1 | ACTION signing out dc nike | 11:36 |
| dcammue | ACTION sign off | 11:36 |
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