IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Saturday, 2023-11-18

scooper!agenda05:08
BigBrotherThis is the agenda for the next meeting:05:08
BigBrotherLinode walkthrough with Ms. Guzman. (added by klarios)05:08
BigBrotherReport day for MSP | LELO contact information (added by klarios)05:08
BigBrotherreach out to Mr. Charles about a testimony (added by klarios)05:08
BigBrotherupdates on Mayfirst server hosting (added by klarios)05:08
BigBrotherUpdates to Elizabeth Guzman Content (added by Jmolina)05:08
BigBrotherClaudia Jones school Financial information (added by klarios)05:08
BigBrotherIntroduction of natalyarbuchwald to James (added by Jmolina)05:08
BigBrothercreate spreadsheet of eveeryone's contact info (added by klarios)05:08
scooper!add Discuss why the following certificates much be accomplish (PCEP, CIW and Linux+ Certificate)05:12
BigBrotherSuccess: "Discuss why the following certificates much be accomplish (PCEP, CIW and Linux+ Certificate)" has been added to the agenda.05:12
scooper!add November Financial Report05:13
BigBrotherSuccess: "November Financial Report" has been added to the agenda.05:13
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scooper!agenda12:48
BigBrotherThis is the agenda for the next meeting:12:48
BigBrotherLinode walkthrough with Ms. Guzman. (added by klarios)12:48
BigBrotherReport day for MSP | LELO contact information (added by klarios)12:48
BigBrotherreach out to Mr. Charles about a testimony (added by klarios)12:48
BigBrotherupdates on Mayfirst server hosting (added by klarios)12:48
BigBrotherUpdates to Elizabeth Guzman Content (added by Jmolina)12:48
BigBrotherClaudia Jones school Financial information (added by klarios)12:48
BigBrotherIntroduction of natalyarbuchwald to James (added by Jmolina)12:48
BigBrothercreate spreadsheet of eveeryone's contact info (added by klarios)12:48
BigBrotherDiscuss why the following certificates much be accomplish (PCEP, CIW and Linux+ Certificate) (added by scooper)12:48
BigBrotherNovember Financial Report (added by scooper)12:48
BigBrotherscooper13:00
BigBrotherTick Tock!13:00
BigBrotherIt's 13:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting.13:00
BigBrotherThis is the agenda for today:13:00
BigBrotherLinode walkthrough with Ms. Guzman. (added by klarios)13:00
BigBrotherReport day for MSP | LELO contact information (added by klarios)13:00
BigBrotherreach out to Mr. Charles about a testimony (added by klarios)13:00
BigBrotherupdates on Mayfirst server hosting (added by klarios)13:00
BigBrotherUpdates to Elizabeth Guzman Content (added by Jmolina)13:00
BigBrotherClaudia Jones school Financial information (added by klarios)13:00
BigBrotherIntroduction of natalyarbuchwald to James (added by Jmolina)13:00
BigBrothercreate spreadsheet of eveeryone's contact info (added by klarios)13:00
BigBrotherDiscuss why the following certificates much be accomplish (PCEP, CIW and Linux+ Certificate) (added by scooper)13:00
BigBrotherNovember Financial Report (added by scooper)13:00
BigBrotherHave a nice day, Websters!13:00
fkoikoi!agenda13:40
BigBrotherWarning: There are no items on the agenda!13:40
fkoikoi!add Monthly report13:44
BigBrotherSuccess: "Monthly report" has been added to the agenda.13:44
fkoikoi!agenda13:46
BigBrotherThis is the agenda for the next meeting:13:46
BigBrotherMonthly report (added by fkoikoi)13:46
scooper!agenda13:47
BigBrotherWarning: There are no items on the agenda!13:47
fkoikoi!agenda13:47
BigBrotherWarning: There are no items on the agenda!13:47
scooperhmmm strange 13:47
scooperoh the time have passed that is why it's not showing13:48
scooperAdd this there too "Discuss why the following certificates much be accomplish(PCEP, CIW and Linux +)13:48
fkoikoibut I noticed that when you add agenda here it will also display on novawebdev channel13:49
scooperYes, I noticed the same thing this morning13:50
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jelknerGood day, fkoikoi, scooper, and svaye!13:55
fkoikoiGood Morning Jeff13:55
scooperGood morning jelkner13:55
jelkner!agenda13:55
BigBrotherWarning: There are no items on the agenda!13:55
scooperI placed item on the agenda13:55
jelkner!agenda13:56
BigBrotherWarning: There are no items on the agenda!13:56
scooperyesterday but it removed 1:00 today13:56
jelknergot you13:56
jelknerwe need to fix that13:56
jelkneri think we really have only one agenda item today13:56
scooperand I even noticed it pop up novaweb agenda along the way13:56
jelknerresponse to my email13:56
scooper!agenda13:56
BigBrotherWarning: There are no items on the agenda!13:56
jelkneri'll check into that13:57
scooper!add Discuss why the following certificates much be accomplish (PCEP, CIW and Linux+)13:57
BigBrotherSuccess: "Discuss why the following certificates much be accomplish (PCEP, CIW and Linux+)" has been added to the agenda.13:57
jelknerperfect13:57
scooper!add Financial Report for November13:57
BigBrotherSuccess: "Financial Report for November" has been added to the agenda.13:57
scooper!agenda13:57
BigBrotherThis is the agenda for the next meeting:13:57
BigBrotherDiscuss why the following certificates much be accomplish (PCEP, CIW and Linux+) (added by scooper)13:57
BigBrotherFinancial Report for November (added by scooper)13:57
jelknerscooper, that's enough13:58
jelknerthe first topic is a big one13:58
jelknerand we only have 30 minutes13:58
jelknerso let's get started13:58
scooperOK13:58
fkoikoiJust take a look in the novawebdev chat Jeff13:58
jelkneryeah, the topics are bleeding over13:58
jelkneri don't know why13:59
jelkneranyway, i'll ask tmickelson on Monday13:59
scooperJelker am I the one presenting or talking on the item one on our agenda or you??13:59
jelknerlet's just discuss my email13:59
jelknerwhat do you think?13:59
scooperOk14:00
scoopersound good.....14:00
jelkneralso, where are mulbah and tboimah?14:00
scooperhoping to see them here shortly...14:00
scooperincluding Daniel as well.....14:01
jelknerlet's go14:01
svayeGood morning jelkner 14:01
scooperGood day everyone14:01
svayeGood afternoon scooper fkoikoi 14:01
scooperOn Monday Nov 13 I emailed Jelkner asking14:02
scooperwhether the stipend will still cancelled after we had make a  successful passed in the above certificates14:02
scooperwhich had been prescribed by him since we started this journey.....14:03
scooperAnd he responding by telling me if above mentioned names can obtain a passing marking14:04
jelknerfkoikoi, svaye, what do you understand from my email?14:04
scooperthem that mean we are already to start a coop and it will also motivate his coming to liberia by July or lastest Aug 202414:04
jelknerdo you feel like you understand what i am trying to do? and even more importantly, why?14:05
scooperIs the question for me jelkner??14:05
svayeI understand what you are saying jelkner 14:05
jelknerno, for svaye and fkoikoi 14:05
fkoikoime too jelkner14:06
jelkneri wish i was there in person for this discussion14:06
jelkneri think it will be helpful to this process if you understand my motivations and my situation14:06
jelknerso you can understand what i am likely to do14:06
jelkneri am 63 years old14:07
jelknerin 2 years, my wife will retire14:07
jelknershe won't work at the school system any more14:07
jelkneri have to decide if i should retire14:07
jelknermy decision will be based on whether i think i can do something truly useful by staying14:07
jelknerfor me, "truly useful" means using information technology for social good14:08
jelkner"social justice computing", if you will14:08
jelknerbecause if i can't do that14:08
jelkneri will feel the world will be a better place if i stop working14:08
jelknersince sadly, computing is used mostly for evil14:09
jelknerthieving and killing14:09
jelknerthat's where the money is14:09
jelknerso most of the students i teach14:09
jelknergo get jobs thieving and killing14:09
scooperhmmmm14:09
jelkneri don't want to help with that14:09
jelknerif that's all i am doing, i will want to stop as soon as i can14:10
jelknerbut i know there are better things that could be done with computing power14:10
jelknerit could be used to help provide clean water, reliable energy, and good nutrition to the people of liberia14:10
jelknerto help, even in a really small way, with that, would be a wonderful thing to do14:11
jelknerso anyway, i have to decide, do i quit, or keep going14:11
jelknerwhat will make up my mind is the success of nova web development and jetro web development14:11
jelknerin my email i tried to capture some of the evaluation that i do constantly about our progress14:12
jelknerwe have some real strenghts14:12
jelknerbut we have a long way to go14:12
jelkneri am trying to help push us forward14:12
scooperwe know jelkner14:13
jelknerso, scooper, i think taking a term off from UoPeople is a good idea14:13
jelknerpart of the reason i came up with the goal the way i did is14:14
jelknerthat for jetro to be successful, you need to learn to work and think as a team14:14
jelkneri tried to pick a goal that is attainable14:14
jelkner3 of the 7 of you need to pass one of the three certifications14:14
jelknerthat challenge has many features14:15
jelkneryou should talk to each other, and plan together14:15
jelknerthe easiest of the three certifications is PCEP14:15
jelknerAdv. HTML5 & CSS3 Specialist is in the middle14:15
jelknerand Linux+ is the hardest14:15
jelknerin the long term, Jetro will need members with all these skills14:16
jelknerbut in terms of your challenge, you may need to make a strategy14:16
jelknerfkoikoi and scooper, if you two pass PCEP14:16
jelknerthat is 2 of 3 already14:16
scooperThe PCEP is divided into three parts....14:16
jelknerno14:17
jelknerit is a single cert14:17
scooperI saw beginner, intermediate and advance14:17
jelkneri took it a few weeks ago14:17
jelknerintermediate and advanced is other certs14:17
jelknerPCAP comes next14:17
jelknerthat is intermediate14:18
jelkneri am only asking for PCEP14:18
scoopersorry for breaking you14:18
jelknerhttps://pythoninstitute.org/pcep14:18
jelknernot at all14:18
jelkneryou need to ask questions14:18
jelknerso you are clear14:18
scooperbut the site is saying after PCEP completion you need to move to intermediate follow by Advance14:18
jelknerno, you don't "need to"14:19
jelknerand for our immediate task14:19
jelkneri didn't say anything about that14:19
jelknerif you pass the PCEP14:19
scoopernot your but SkillsforALL14:19
jelkneri'm on my way to Liberia!14:19
scoopernot you but skillsfor all14:19
jelkneri don't know about Skills for All14:20
jelknerplease don't get distracted by that14:20
jelkneri had breakfast with Sahnun this morning14:20
jelknerhe is planning on moving to Somalia next year14:20
scooperit's the the site you registered me for and it fall under Csico Networking Academy...14:20
jelkneroh14:21
jelknerwell, scooper, that is a resource only14:21
scooperSkillforAll present python lessons14:21
jelkneryou only need to worry about the PCEP14:21
scooperand track your progress being make why you read those lesson as you prepare for the PCEP test...14:21
jelknerso Sahnun knows someone who started a tech school like the one we are talking about in Mogadishu14:21
scooperhope are on path14:21
scooperHope I m on path ??14:22
jelknerMe too! ;-)14:22
jelknerthere are four sections14:22
jelkneryou can also look at the PCEP warmups i post every day for my class14:22
jelkneri am going to be making my own quizzes too14:23
jelknersince i am getting 32 students ready for the PCEP14:23
jelknerhttps://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc221/goals/weeks12n13.html14:23
jelknernow, for svaye and daniel14:24
jelkneri am waiting for them to get me the picture, audio, and videos14:24
jelknersvaye, why is it taking so long?14:24
jelknerthis is another thing i talked with Sahnun about this morning14:25
jelknerscooper, i told Sahnun, *NO JavaScript PLEASE!!*14:25
jelknerPCEP, PCEP, PCEP!!!14:25
svayeI went to the office last Wednesday to talk with scooper but the office was lock jelkner 14:26
jelknerthat is if you want the stipend to continue, of course ;-)14:26
jelknerotherwise, you are free to do whatever you want to do14:26
jelknerthanks, svaye 14:26
jelknerbtw, this is more than anything else and organizational challenge, right?14:26
jelkneryou need to get all 7 of you in one place at the same time14:26
jelknerand take a picture, record a short audio, and record a short video14:27
scooperJelkner, when you are done can I come in a little bit.......14:27
jelknerif Jetro Web can not get its members together, then it has serious problems with its ability to organize14:27
svayeI will be at the office on Monday 14:27
jelknerand you can't run a business and deliver value to customers if you can't organize a simple meeting14:27
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jelkneroops, we lost svaye14:28
jelknerscooper and fkoikoi, you should be helping her!14:28
jelknerJetro Web development needs to become a team14:28
jelknerher task is your task14:28
jelknershe can't do it without you14:28
jelknerand you are the coordinators14:29
scooperJeff the team know, even Sahnun know. I explain to the team and they know that my phone fall in the commode...14:29
jelknerand no one else has a phone?14:29
scooperthe is no way I can assist them with the pictures or video we took in the lab14:29
scooperI explain this to daneil and svaye time with number14:29
jelknerlet's say a year from now we get Jetro Web it's first customer14:29
scoopershallon, daniel and other have a phone..14:30
jelknerthe customer doesn't want to hear, sorry, we can't do your website, since our phone fell in the commode14:30
jelknerteam work14:30
jelknerif one phone is broken14:30
jelkneruse another14:30
jelkneryou need backup plans14:30
fkoikoiwill get the video and audio done Jeff14:31
jelknerand ways to respond quickly to the little (and big) problems that will also crop up14:31
svayescooper, we wanted to do the audio and the video in the lab14:31
scooperthem the blame shouldn't be on me here, I told Daniel and svaye to proceed with the video and pictures...14:31
jelknerthanks14:31
fkoikoi**we**14:31
jelkner;-)14:31
jelkneryes, fkoikoi, "we"!!!!14:31
jelknerok, time's up14:31
svayeWe are not blaming you scooper 14:31
jelkneri need a little break before the nova web meeting14:32
scooperwe need to talk jelkner14:32
scooperbefore you leave....14:32
jelknerfkoikoi, we will need to talk with the Supe as soon as the election results are final14:32
jelknerto see what it means for our project14:32
scooperit's final already Jeff14:32
jelknerwhat happened?14:32
scooperthe supe party lost the election14:32
jelknerwow14:33
fkoikoinot yet scooper14:33
scooperI m telling you14:33
jelknerso in a few weeks, fkoikoi 14:33
jelknerand scooper 14:33
scooperPresident Weah had already congratulated Joe BOakai14:33
jelknerlet's set up a time to talk with Superintendent Zawolo about what that means14:33
fkoikoiI just hear about re election on news but don't know how true is it14:33
jelknerhis term is 2 more years14:34
scooperwe can still proceed with our plan14:34
jelknercan we get a school built in that time?14:34
scooperyes14:34
jelkneri'll be meeting with Commy and Kevin next Saturday afteroon14:34
fkoikoisure Jeff14:34
scooperthe supe still have additional two years from now14:34
jelkneri'll ask Commy if we can build the school in 202514:34
scooperexcluding this year14:34
jelknerok, so we need to get busy14:35
scooperbefore you leave14:35
jelkneryes, scooper 14:35
scooperI have a few concerning14:35
scooperQuestions14:35
scooperyou I m saying I shound't doing Javascript with Sahnun right....14:36
scooperyou are saying***14:36
jelkneryou can do whatever you want to do, scooper 14:36
jelknerbut i don't recommend it14:36
scooperI know Jeff,14:36
jelknersince if 3 of you don't pass one of the 3 certs i listed14:36
jelkneryou know the rest...14:36
jelkneri would focus on meeting that goal14:36
jelknerthere will be plenty of time for studying lots of other technologies after you meet the goal14:37
scooperI understand Jeff, but if I was not doing extra activity do you think I was going to deliver on the project 14:37
scooperthe rural cooking stove????14:37
jelknerso, scooper, let me work with ledmer on that for now14:37
jelknerhis deliverable is the RCCS website14:38
scooperI will focus on pyhton soley the i m can come out with flying colors...14:38
jelknerperfect14:38
jelknergreat, are we meeting at 7 am my time on Monday?14:38
scooperYes, SIr14:38
scooperAnother thing14:38
jelknersee you then...14:38
scooperTHursday14:38
jelkneremail scooper 14:39
scooperI waited online still 11:00 my time14:39
jelkneri need a short break14:39
jelknerand have another meeting about to start14:39
scoopernobody respond to me14:39
jelknerthursday was great14:39
jelknermattva01 worked with ledmer the whole time14:39
scooperI was there but know one respond to me14:39
jelknerit may not make sense for you to try to do that remotely14:39
jelknerthey are talking to each other in person14:39
scooperI even tried calling you to tell you im bout to leave since it's getting late on my side14:39
jelknerand looking at the problem they are trying to solve14:40
scoopergot you14:40
jelknerand they did solve it14:40
jelknerthey can't split their attention14:40
jelknerthey wouldn't get anything done14:40
jelkneryou focus on Jetro Web team14:40
jelknerin person there14:40
jelknerand i'll work with ledmer on RCCS14:40
jelknerlet's talk more Monday14:41
scooperOk, Jeff14:41
fkoikoihave a nice day jeff14:42
svayeHave a nice day jelkner 14:43
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