IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Monday, 2023-12-04

svayeGood morning jelkner 11:53
jelknerGood day svaye11:53
jelknerGood day fkoikoi 11:54
fkoikoiGood Morning Jeff11:54
jelknerdid you see my email to scooper, fkoikoi?11:54
svayeGood day fkoikoi 11:54
fkoikoiGood day svaye 11:54
fkoikoilet me check Jeff11:55
jelkneri sent it yesterday11:55
jelknerand cc'd you11:55
svayeGood day dcammue tboimah 11:56
jelknerHello dcammue and tboimah 11:56
dcammueGood morning jelkner 11:56
jelknergreat to see so many of the Jetro Websters here!11:56
tboimahGood morning Jeff and good day svaye11:56
jelknerdo you know if scooper will be joining us?11:57
dcammueYes, he will soon11:57
jelknergreat11:57
jelknerremember, i only have 10 minutes on weekdays11:57
jelkneractually, i can often drop back in during our homeroom period11:58
jelknerwhich is 9:30 to 10 am my time11:58
jelknergood day, svaye 11:58
jelkneroops11:58
svayejelkner,  I was able the get the HeadFirstHTML5Programming.pdf from my shell server by the help of tboimah 11:58
jelknergood day scooper 11:58
jelknerexcellent, svaye 11:58
jelknerthanks tboimah!11:58
jelknerthat's what we need11:59
tboimahsure11:59
scoopergood morning Jeff11:59
jelknergrowing collaboration and skills within the team11:59
jelknerglad to see you back, scooper 11:59
fkoikoiJeff11:59
jelknerFreena11:59
svayeGood day scooper 11:59
fkoikoiI just saw a mail from commy Jahanbein11:59
jelknerwow12:00
jelkneri guess he didn't cc me12:00
jelkneri didn't see it12:00
jelknercan you please forward it to me?12:00
fkoikoisure12:00
jelknerthat's great12:00
fkoikoiI cc you too scooper 12:01
scooperok 12:01
jelknerthis is great fkoikoi 12:02
jelknerit would be good for you to show it to Superintendent Zawolo12:02
jelknerand then to craft a reply12:02
jelknertogether with him12:02
fkoikoisure 12:03
jelknerin the mean time, we need to focus on getting 3 of you to pass one of the certification exams12:03
fkoikoiand it need to be done sooner too12:03
jelkner+112:03
jelknerbut there is not a terrible rush, fkoikoi 12:03
fkoikoiokay12:04
jelknerhe told me the school can be built within 6 months of signing the contract12:04
jelknerhe knows i am planning on being in Monrovia in August12:04
jelknerand that we will hopefully finalize the plans then12:04
jelknerJetro Web will need to be a legal entity12:04
jelknerso that it can sign a contract12:04
jelknerso we have *a lot* of work to do before then!12:05
jelknerincluding:12:05
svayejelkner, can I ask a question?12:05
jelkner1. working collaboratively to plan for 3 of you at least to pass a certification12:05
jelkner2. beginning to study what a cooperative is12:05
jelkner3. investigating how to form one in Liberia12:06
jelknersure, svaye 12:06
jelknerbut type fast12:06
jelkneri have 3 minutes ;-)12:06
svayeare we going to take the test before we make Jetroweb a legal entity12:06
jelknerdefinitely12:07
svayeOkay12:07
jelknerthis is part of learning to plan effectively12:07
fkoikoithe test is January, is that right Jeff?12:07
jelknerfkoikoi, you can take these certifications any time you are ready12:07
jelkneri have 32 students in my Python class12:07
jelkneri told them i want all 32 of them to pass the PCEP12:08
fkoikoiokay12:08
jelknerbut 4 of them took it already12:08
jelknerand they passed12:08
jelknerthey were the most advanced12:08
jelknernow i am encouraging the next group to try12:08
jelknerfor my class here, January is the deadline12:08
jelknerfor you, April is the deadline12:09
jelknersince you need to get 3 of you to pass before May 1st12:09
scooperjelkner, can I ask you a question???12:09
jelknerbut you can have one of you take it as soon as you feel you are ready12:09
jelknerplease scooper 12:09
scoopersorry not really following the question12:09
jelknerbut i only have a minute12:09
scooperok12:09
jelkneri don't understand?12:10
jelknerand i need to go12:10
scooperis it mandatory that the test be taking January only????12:10
jelknerNO!12:10
jelknerAny time12:10
jelkneri can come back on at 9:30 am my time12:10
jelknergotta go12:10
jelknerACTION signs off until after his 1st class12:10
scooperI want to take it in December, can I??12:10
fkoikoiokay Jeff12:10
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svayescooper, 12:15
fkoikoihe just step out 12:16
svayeI want us to discuss something 12:16
fkoikoiokay12:17
svayeI will be at the office by 2:00pm 12:17
svayewe will talk when I get there12:17
fkoikoialright 12:17
svayetake care12:17
fkoikoiyou too svaye12:18
svayeACTION signs off12:18
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jelknerscooper, i'm here with ledmer who has been asking about you.14:27
scooperI m here Jeff14:27
jelknershanun is also asking about you14:27
scooperSorry ledmer been having internet issue at house that why I m not online at my (9:30pm) my time14:28
scooperbut it has been resolve.......14:28
scooper*home14:28
scooperJeff14:28
scoopercan you include me on the web team project you guys are developing gradually????14:29
jelknerscooper, this is a bit stressful for me14:30
jelknerpeople are coming to me asking where you have been14:30
jelknerthat's why i emailed you14:30
scooperI m here busy preparing......14:31
scooperBut been busy this gone time with MCSS Got talent that I was part of......14:31
jelkneri understand that scooper, your team members told me14:32
jelknermy point is this, we have shared responsibility to make this work14:32
scoopersure14:32
jelknerwhen you are away, you should get someone to fill in for you14:32
scooperfreena did14:32
jelknerand compensate them acccordingly14:32
jelknerwell, the fact that both ledmer and smohammed found you mia (missing in action)14:33
jelknermeans that commmuncation and planning broke down14:33
jelknerthey should not have to ask me where you are14:34
scooperI m sorry... for that 14:34
jelknerit also means we are wasting resources14:34
jelknerso we are not planning effectively14:34
scooperA wont happen again......14:34
jelknerboth ledmer and smohammed are here to help you all learn14:34
jelknerwhy are they not working with the other Python students as well14:35
jelknerlook how organized the sys admin team is14:35
jelknerthey meet with kevin reliably twice a week14:35
scooperMaybe it's because of the time we meet...14:35
jelknerthey are meeting now in the #novawebdeve channel14:35
scooper9:00pm14:35
jelknertiming is a challenge14:36
jelknerkevin is retired14:36
jelknersahnun is not14:36
scooperI told Freena that Sahnun meet with me by 9:00pm14:36
jelknerok, i'm going to stop talking about this now14:37
jelkneri keep making the same point14:37
jelknerif you don't plan effectively, we will not be able to run a cooperative business14:37
jelknerso i am looking for growth in that ability14:37
scooperI will talk to Sahnun to change the time14:38
jelknerdid Jetro ever have a team meeting to talk about your strategy for meeting the certification goal?14:38
scooperBecause it stressful.....14:38
scooperyes14:38
jelkneryes, that is a late time14:38
jelkneri meet with Sahnun for breakfast each week14:39
jelknernext Saturday i'll talk to him about the problem14:39
jelkneri don't know what the solution is14:39
jelknersince he is at work when you are available14:39
jelknerin that case, asynchronous is the best solution14:40
scooperI m not justifying here by the Sys admin have a nice time....14:40
jelknerkevin has been trying to impress that upon his two charges14:40
jelkneryes, but kevin is still struggling with them for the same thing14:40
scooperbecause at the time MCSS Central is activity functioning...14:40
jelknerhe told me14:40
jelknerhe needs them to learn to write emails14:40
jelknerwith clear, well thought out questions14:41
jelkneri would love it if you could learn to do that14:41
jelknerit would be a huge help if i received emails with clear questions about PCEP14:41
jelknerstating what you are trying to learn, what you did to try to solve the problem you are having, and what you want help with14:42
scooperI will email you today...14:42
jelknerthe more clearly stated the better14:42
jelknerthen i can think about it, and compose a response14:42
jelknerback and forth, we can learn together14:42
scooperin fact after chatting with you... I will compose a email...14:42
jelkneri keep sending you links14:42
scooperI m on those links Jeff14:43
jelkneri share the resources i use with my students14:43
scooperlikes Skills for alll14:43
jelknerbut i never get feedback or questions14:43
jelknerso i have no idea what you are up to14:43
scooperJeff14:43
scooperI think it will be prudent if you give me assignment14:43
scooperthem you will understand my ability or know how far I have gone??14:43
jelknerthis is part of the struggle, scooper 14:43
jelknerall i need to assess your skills should be a look at your git repo14:44
jelknerit should have the work you have been doing14:44
scooperYou mean the same github account we shared before????14:45
jelknerhttps://codeberg.org/Aless_M/CSC22114:45
jelknerlook at Alessandra's repo14:45
jelkner105 commits14:45
jelknerwith lots of her work14:45
jelknerNow look at yours14:46
jelknerhttps://github.com/Spencerscooper/CSC22114:46
jelkner4 commits14:46
jelknernot much there14:46
jelkneri added you and Freena as students in my clas14:46
jelknerclas14:46
jelknerclass14:46
jelknerhttps://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc221/students.html14:47
jelkneri check in on student progress by looking at student's repos14:47
jelkneri give assignments here14:47
jelknerhttps://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc221/goals/14:47
jelkneri was hoping you two would follow along with the class14:47
scooperno need to justify.. I stop commenting to the repository because mcssgitea was down14:48
jelknerbut it isn't happening14:48
jelknerthis is a link to githup, scooper 14:48
jelknergithub14:48
scoopernow since it up will try to continue and complete before applying for the test...14:48
jelkneranyway, i don't want to be negative14:49
jelkneri'm just concerned14:49
jelknertime is ticking14:49
jelknerif we get to May 1st14:49
jelknerand we are still in the same situation14:49
scooperI m moving on Jeff14:49
jelknerit can't be just you, scooper 14:49
jelknerit needs to be Jetro14:49
jelknerACTION done14:49
scooperI understand Jeff, I m saying me because I know what I m doing on a daily basis....14:50
jelknerthat still means you don't fully get it, my dear friend14:50
jelknerwe are trying to build a team14:51
jelknerto develop active skills, you need to collaborate14:51
jelknerif you don't know what fkoikoi, svaye, dcammue, toboimah, janet, and mulbah are doing14:51
jelkneryou are not a team14:51
scooperlike I say no need for justification I and my team will comment on a daily basis....14:52
jelknerthanks14:52
jelkneri was pleased when i asked svaye to get help from the team14:52
jelknerand she did14:52
jelkneri put a book on the server14:53
jelknerand told her she needed to get help from Jetro to figure out how to get it14:53
jelknerand she did14:53
jelknerthat is progress14:53
jelknerwe need to develop that *much* more14:53
jelknerok, almost time for me to go14:54
scoopergot your point, well noticed.....14:55
jelknerok, see you tomorrow at 7 am my time14:55
scooperOK jelkner....14:56
jelknerACTION signs off til tomorrow14:57
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