| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 11:53 |
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| jelkner | Good day svaye | 11:53 |
| jelkner | Good day fkoikoi | 11:54 |
| fkoikoi | Good Morning Jeff | 11:54 |
| jelkner | did you see my email to scooper, fkoikoi? | 11:54 |
| svaye | Good day fkoikoi | 11:54 |
| fkoikoi | Good day svaye | 11:54 |
| fkoikoi | let me check Jeff | 11:55 |
| jelkner | i sent it yesterday | 11:55 |
| jelkner | and cc'd you | 11:55 |
| svaye | Good day dcammue tboimah | 11:56 |
| jelkner | Hello dcammue and tboimah | 11:56 |
| dcammue | Good morning jelkner | 11:56 |
| jelkner | great to see so many of the Jetro Websters here! | 11:56 |
| tboimah | Good morning Jeff and good day svaye | 11:56 |
| jelkner | do you know if scooper will be joining us? | 11:57 |
| dcammue | Yes, he will soon | 11:57 |
| jelkner | great | 11:57 |
| jelkner | remember, i only have 10 minutes on weekdays | 11:57 |
| jelkner | actually, i can often drop back in during our homeroom period | 11:58 |
| jelkner | which is 9:30 to 10 am my time | 11:58 |
| jelkner | good day, svaye | 11:58 |
| jelkner | oops | 11:58 |
| svaye | jelkner, I was able the get the HeadFirstHTML5Programming.pdf from my shell server by the help of tboimah | 11:58 |
| jelkner | good day scooper | 11:58 |
| jelkner | excellent, svaye | 11:58 |
| jelkner | thanks tboimah! | 11:58 |
| jelkner | that's what we need | 11:59 |
| tboimah | sure | 11:59 |
| scooper | good morning Jeff | 11:59 |
| jelkner | growing collaboration and skills within the team | 11:59 |
| jelkner | glad to see you back, scooper | 11:59 |
| fkoikoi | Jeff | 11:59 |
| jelkner | Freena | 11:59 |
| svaye | Good day scooper | 11:59 |
| fkoikoi | I just saw a mail from commy Jahanbein | 11:59 |
| jelkner | wow | 12:00 |
| jelkner | i guess he didn't cc me | 12:00 |
| jelkner | i didn't see it | 12:00 |
| jelkner | can you please forward it to me? | 12:00 |
| fkoikoi | sure | 12:00 |
| jelkner | that's great | 12:00 |
| fkoikoi | I cc you too scooper | 12:01 |
| scooper | ok | 12:01 |
| jelkner | this is great fkoikoi | 12:02 |
| jelkner | it would be good for you to show it to Superintendent Zawolo | 12:02 |
| jelkner | and then to craft a reply | 12:02 |
| jelkner | together with him | 12:02 |
| fkoikoi | sure | 12:03 |
| jelkner | in the mean time, we need to focus on getting 3 of you to pass one of the certification exams | 12:03 |
| fkoikoi | and it need to be done sooner too | 12:03 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:03 |
| jelkner | but there is not a terrible rush, fkoikoi | 12:03 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 12:04 |
| jelkner | he told me the school can be built within 6 months of signing the contract | 12:04 |
| jelkner | he knows i am planning on being in Monrovia in August | 12:04 |
| jelkner | and that we will hopefully finalize the plans then | 12:04 |
| jelkner | Jetro Web will need to be a legal entity | 12:04 |
| jelkner | so that it can sign a contract | 12:04 |
| jelkner | so we have *a lot* of work to do before then! | 12:05 |
| jelkner | including: | 12:05 |
| svaye | jelkner, can I ask a question? | 12:05 |
| jelkner | 1. working collaboratively to plan for 3 of you at least to pass a certification | 12:05 |
| jelkner | 2. beginning to study what a cooperative is | 12:05 |
| jelkner | 3. investigating how to form one in Liberia | 12:06 |
| jelkner | sure, svaye | 12:06 |
| jelkner | but type fast | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i have 3 minutes ;-) | 12:06 |
| svaye | are we going to take the test before we make Jetroweb a legal entity | 12:06 |
| jelkner | definitely | 12:07 |
| svaye | Okay | 12:07 |
| jelkner | this is part of learning to plan effectively | 12:07 |
| fkoikoi | the test is January, is that right Jeff? | 12:07 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, you can take these certifications any time you are ready | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i have 32 students in my Python class | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i told them i want all 32 of them to pass the PCEP | 12:08 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 12:08 |
| jelkner | but 4 of them took it already | 12:08 |
| jelkner | and they passed | 12:08 |
| jelkner | they were the most advanced | 12:08 |
| jelkner | now i am encouraging the next group to try | 12:08 |
| jelkner | for my class here, January is the deadline | 12:08 |
| jelkner | for you, April is the deadline | 12:09 |
| jelkner | since you need to get 3 of you to pass before May 1st | 12:09 |
| scooper | jelkner, can I ask you a question??? | 12:09 |
| jelkner | but you can have one of you take it as soon as you feel you are ready | 12:09 |
| jelkner | please scooper | 12:09 |
| scooper | sorry not really following the question | 12:09 |
| jelkner | but i only have a minute | 12:09 |
| scooper | ok | 12:09 |
| jelkner | i don't understand? | 12:10 |
| jelkner | and i need to go | 12:10 |
| scooper | is it mandatory that the test be taking January only???? | 12:10 |
| jelkner | NO! | 12:10 |
| jelkner | Any time | 12:10 |
| jelkner | i can come back on at 9:30 am my time | 12:10 |
| jelkner | gotta go | 12:10 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until after his 1st class | 12:10 |
| scooper | I want to take it in December, can I?? | 12:10 |
| fkoikoi | okay Jeff | 12:10 |
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| svaye | scooper, | 12:15 |
| fkoikoi | he just step out | 12:16 |
| svaye | I want us to discuss something | 12:16 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 12:17 |
| svaye | I will be at the office by 2:00pm | 12:17 |
| svaye | we will talk when I get there | 12:17 |
| fkoikoi | alright | 12:17 |
| svaye | take care | 12:17 |
| fkoikoi | you too svaye | 12:18 |
| svaye | ACTION signs off | 12:18 |
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| jelkner | scooper, i'm here with ledmer who has been asking about you. | 14:27 |
| scooper | I m here Jeff | 14:27 |
| jelkner | shanun is also asking about you | 14:27 |
| scooper | Sorry ledmer been having internet issue at house that why I m not online at my (9:30pm) my time | 14:28 |
| scooper | but it has been resolve....... | 14:28 |
| scooper | *home | 14:28 |
| scooper | Jeff | 14:28 |
| scooper | can you include me on the web team project you guys are developing gradually???? | 14:29 |
| jelkner | scooper, this is a bit stressful for me | 14:30 |
| jelkner | people are coming to me asking where you have been | 14:30 |
| jelkner | that's why i emailed you | 14:30 |
| scooper | I m here busy preparing...... | 14:31 |
| scooper | But been busy this gone time with MCSS Got talent that I was part of...... | 14:31 |
| jelkner | i understand that scooper, your team members told me | 14:32 |
| jelkner | my point is this, we have shared responsibility to make this work | 14:32 |
| scooper | sure | 14:32 |
| jelkner | when you are away, you should get someone to fill in for you | 14:32 |
| scooper | freena did | 14:32 |
| jelkner | and compensate them acccordingly | 14:32 |
| jelkner | well, the fact that both ledmer and smohammed found you mia (missing in action) | 14:33 |
| jelkner | means that commmuncation and planning broke down | 14:33 |
| jelkner | they should not have to ask me where you are | 14:34 |
| scooper | I m sorry... for that | 14:34 |
| jelkner | it also means we are wasting resources | 14:34 |
| jelkner | so we are not planning effectively | 14:34 |
| scooper | A wont happen again...... | 14:34 |
| jelkner | both ledmer and smohammed are here to help you all learn | 14:34 |
| jelkner | why are they not working with the other Python students as well | 14:35 |
| jelkner | look how organized the sys admin team is | 14:35 |
| jelkner | they meet with kevin reliably twice a week | 14:35 |
| scooper | Maybe it's because of the time we meet... | 14:35 |
| jelkner | they are meeting now in the #novawebdeve channel | 14:35 |
| scooper | 9:00pm | 14:35 |
| jelkner | timing is a challenge | 14:36 |
| jelkner | kevin is retired | 14:36 |
| jelkner | sahnun is not | 14:36 |
| scooper | I told Freena that Sahnun meet with me by 9:00pm | 14:36 |
| jelkner | ok, i'm going to stop talking about this now | 14:37 |
| jelkner | i keep making the same point | 14:37 |
| jelkner | if you don't plan effectively, we will not be able to run a cooperative business | 14:37 |
| jelkner | so i am looking for growth in that ability | 14:37 |
| scooper | I will talk to Sahnun to change the time | 14:38 |
| jelkner | did Jetro ever have a team meeting to talk about your strategy for meeting the certification goal? | 14:38 |
| scooper | Because it stressful..... | 14:38 |
| scooper | yes | 14:38 |
| jelkner | yes, that is a late time | 14:38 |
| jelkner | i meet with Sahnun for breakfast each week | 14:39 |
| jelkner | next Saturday i'll talk to him about the problem | 14:39 |
| jelkner | i don't know what the solution is | 14:39 |
| jelkner | since he is at work when you are available | 14:39 |
| jelkner | in that case, asynchronous is the best solution | 14:40 |
| scooper | I m not justifying here by the Sys admin have a nice time.... | 14:40 |
| jelkner | kevin has been trying to impress that upon his two charges | 14:40 |
| jelkner | yes, but kevin is still struggling with them for the same thing | 14:40 |
| scooper | because at the time MCSS Central is activity functioning... | 14:40 |
| jelkner | he told me | 14:40 |
| jelkner | he needs them to learn to write emails | 14:40 |
| jelkner | with clear, well thought out questions | 14:41 |
| jelkner | i would love it if you could learn to do that | 14:41 |
| jelkner | it would be a huge help if i received emails with clear questions about PCEP | 14:41 |
| jelkner | stating what you are trying to learn, what you did to try to solve the problem you are having, and what you want help with | 14:42 |
| scooper | I will email you today... | 14:42 |
| jelkner | the more clearly stated the better | 14:42 |
| jelkner | then i can think about it, and compose a response | 14:42 |
| jelkner | back and forth, we can learn together | 14:42 |
| scooper | in fact after chatting with you... I will compose a email... | 14:42 |
| jelkner | i keep sending you links | 14:42 |
| scooper | I m on those links Jeff | 14:43 |
| jelkner | i share the resources i use with my students | 14:43 |
| scooper | likes Skills for alll | 14:43 |
| jelkner | but i never get feedback or questions | 14:43 |
| jelkner | so i have no idea what you are up to | 14:43 |
| scooper | Jeff | 14:43 |
| scooper | I think it will be prudent if you give me assignment | 14:43 |
| scooper | them you will understand my ability or know how far I have gone?? | 14:43 |
| jelkner | this is part of the struggle, scooper | 14:43 |
| jelkner | all i need to assess your skills should be a look at your git repo | 14:44 |
| jelkner | it should have the work you have been doing | 14:44 |
| scooper | You mean the same github account we shared before???? | 14:45 |
| jelkner | https://codeberg.org/Aless_M/CSC221 | 14:45 |
| jelkner | look at Alessandra's repo | 14:45 |
| jelkner | 105 commits | 14:45 |
| jelkner | with lots of her work | 14:45 |
| jelkner | Now look at yours | 14:46 |
| jelkner | https://github.com/Spencerscooper/CSC221 | 14:46 |
| jelkner | 4 commits | 14:46 |
| jelkner | not much there | 14:46 |
| jelkner | i added you and Freena as students in my clas | 14:46 |
| jelkner | clas | 14:46 |
| jelkner | class | 14:46 |
| jelkner | https://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc221/students.html | 14:47 |
| jelkner | i check in on student progress by looking at student's repos | 14:47 |
| jelkner | i give assignments here | 14:47 |
| jelkner | https://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc221/goals/ | 14:47 |
| jelkner | i was hoping you two would follow along with the class | 14:47 |
| scooper | no need to justify.. I stop commenting to the repository because mcssgitea was down | 14:48 |
| jelkner | but it isn't happening | 14:48 |
| jelkner | this is a link to githup, scooper | 14:48 |
| jelkner | github | 14:48 |
| scooper | now since it up will try to continue and complete before applying for the test... | 14:48 |
| jelkner | anyway, i don't want to be negative | 14:49 |
| jelkner | i'm just concerned | 14:49 |
| jelkner | time is ticking | 14:49 |
| jelkner | if we get to May 1st | 14:49 |
| jelkner | and we are still in the same situation | 14:49 |
| scooper | I m moving on Jeff | 14:49 |
| jelkner | it can't be just you, scooper | 14:49 |
| jelkner | it needs to be Jetro | 14:49 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 14:49 |
| scooper | I understand Jeff, I m saying me because I know what I m doing on a daily basis.... | 14:50 |
| jelkner | that still means you don't fully get it, my dear friend | 14:50 |
| jelkner | we are trying to build a team | 14:51 |
| jelkner | to develop active skills, you need to collaborate | 14:51 |
| jelkner | if you don't know what fkoikoi, svaye, dcammue, toboimah, janet, and mulbah are doing | 14:51 |
| jelkner | you are not a team | 14:51 |
| scooper | like I say no need for justification I and my team will comment on a daily basis.... | 14:52 |
| jelkner | thanks | 14:52 |
| jelkner | i was pleased when i asked svaye to get help from the team | 14:52 |
| jelkner | and she did | 14:52 |
| jelkner | i put a book on the server | 14:53 |
| jelkner | and told her she needed to get help from Jetro to figure out how to get it | 14:53 |
| jelkner | and she did | 14:53 |
| jelkner | that is progress | 14:53 |
| jelkner | we need to develop that *much* more | 14:53 |
| jelkner | ok, almost time for me to go | 14:54 |
| scooper | got your point, well noticed..... | 14:55 |
| jelkner | ok, see you tomorrow at 7 am my time | 14:55 |
| scooper | OK jelkner.... | 14:56 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off til tomorrow | 14:57 |
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