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| jelkner | Good morning fkoikoi and scooper | 11:38 |
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| jelkner | i won't be able to meet this morning | 11:38 |
| jelkner | i am not ready preparing my class yet | 11:38 |
| jelkner | but i will come back when kevin arrvives | 11:38 |
| jelkner | to talk to him about helping with PCEP | 11:38 |
| scooper | ok Jeff | 11:39 |
| scooper | did you see my mail..... | 11:39 |
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| jelkner | no time now scooper | 11:40 |
| jelkner | talk later | 11:40 |
| scooper | ok jelkner.... | 11:40 |
| scooper | ACTION signing out for today.... | 11:41 |
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| fkoikoi | okay Jeff | 11:42 |
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| tboimah | Good morning Jeff | 11:53 |
| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 11:57 |
| svaye | Good morning tboimah | 11:57 |
| tboimah | Good day svaye! | 12:00 |
| svaye | Good afternoon fkoikoi | 12:02 |
| svaye | how are you tboimah | 12:03 |
| fkoikoi | good afternoon svaye | 12:04 |
| svaye | how are you | 12:04 |
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| jelkner | Good afternoon svaye | 13:06 |
| svaye | How are you jelkner | 13:07 |
| svaye | are we still meeting by 9:30pm our time today? | 13:08 |
| jelkner | i'm in class now, but i finished the task for the students | 13:09 |
| jelkner | so they are wokring on their own | 13:09 |
| jelkner | i want to catch kevin when he shows up in 50 minutes | 13:10 |
| svaye | jelkner, I was asking if we will meet today by 9:30pm our time? | 13:10 |
| jelkner | let me see, 9:30 pm your time is 4:30 pm my time, yes? | 13:10 |
| svaye | okay I will be online | 13:11 |
| jelkner | wait, before you do | 13:11 |
| jelkner | let's think about this | 13:11 |
| jelkner | we may not need to | 13:11 |
| svaye | what did you want us to discuss? | 13:11 |
| jelkner | svaye, i asked dcammune yesterday if he thought having everyone work toward PCEP as a first goal was a good idea | 13:11 |
| jelkner | he told me he wants to do that | 13:12 |
| jelkner | i really,really, *really* want to come to Monrovia this Summer | 13:12 |
| svaye | as in python programming | 13:12 |
| jelkner | but i'm a man of my word, so i won't come if we can't get 3 Jetro Websters to pass a certification | 13:12 |
| svaye | That's a great idea jelkner | 13:13 |
| jelkner | so we should be applying our energy together figuring out how to do achieve that goal | 13:14 |
| jelkner | i know we can | 13:14 |
| jelkner | but we need to work smart, and we need to work together | 13:14 |
| jelkner | PCEP is the easiest of the 3 certifications to get | 13:14 |
| jelkner | so i'm going to ask both mentors, Sahnun and Kevin | 13:15 |
| svaye | we all can study together and there's a possibility that a large number of us to pass | 13:15 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:15 |
| jelkner | and if you take it early, and are close to the mark, there will be time to take it again | 13:15 |
| jelkner | and folks who pass can help tutor those who are close | 13:15 |
| svaye | I am willing to do it jelkner | 13:15 |
| jelkner | excellent | 13:17 |
| jelkner | so there may not be a need to meet at 9:30 pm your time | 13:17 |
| jelkner | if you can stay around for another 42 minutes | 13:18 |
| svaye | that's no problem I will stay around | 13:18 |
| jelkner | we can see if Kevin is willing to use his 4 hour session toward this aim | 13:19 |
| svaye | alright | 13:22 |
| jelkner | tboimah, good afternoon | 13:22 |
| jelkner | tboimah, are you here? | 13:23 |
| jelkner | oh, you're on the other channel | 13:24 |
| jelkner | svaye, i'm changing my focus to #novawebdev | 13:24 |
| svaye | okay | 13:24 |
| jelkner | so i can talk with mulbah and tboimah | 13:24 |
| tboimah | Good morning Jeff | 13:24 |
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| svaye | jelkner, do we still have something to discuss? | 14:05 |
| jelkner | svaye, we do | 14:06 |
| jelkner | we need to figure out when we can meet for PCEP study | 14:06 |
| svaye | can you please give me 10mins to reach to the office | 14:06 |
| scooper1 | I m here jeff | 14:06 |
| jelkner | sure | 14:06 |
| svaye | I am on my way to the office | 14:06 |
| jelkner | scooper1, i see your email | 14:07 |
| jelkner | i'm not sure what you want in a response. | 14:07 |
| jelkner | you don't ask any questions | 14:07 |
| jelkner | you just shared your work | 14:07 |
| jelkner | that's great | 14:07 |
| svaye | ACTION signs off to reach the office | 14:07 |
| jelkner | but doesn't require a response | 14:07 |
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| jelkner | you need to keep up a fast pace if you want PCEP by May 1st | 14:08 |
| jelkner | a very fast pace | 14:08 |
| jelkner | you should finish Pretty Pictures in one day | 14:08 |
| jelkner | (assuming you have about 5 hours to work on it) | 14:08 |
| jelkner | when i see a draw_face(x, y) function | 14:08 |
| jelkner | that draws a parameterized face at location x, y | 14:09 |
| jelkner | i will want to meet with everyone and ask questions to determine if they understand the concepts | 14:09 |
| jelkner | how do parameters relate to arugments? | 14:09 |
| jelkner | what are the benefits of writing functions? | 14:10 |
| jelkner | how do functions reflect abstractions that enable us to write more complex code? | 14:10 |
| scooper1 | is that a question??? | 14:10 |
| jelkner | those are the questions i would ask once you all have finished sheet 3 | 14:10 |
| scooper1 | ok.... | 14:11 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, are you ready with an agenda for our meeting tomorrow? | 14:12 |
| jelkner | i was going to suggest a main topic | 14:12 |
| scooper1 | Are you done with the discussion for today??? | 14:13 |
| jelkner | you tell me scooper1 | 14:13 |
| fkoikoi | Yes but I want to know if the problem with this channel is fixed | 14:13 |
| jelkner | i was responding to you | 14:13 |
| jelkner | did i? | 14:13 |
| jelkner | i can ask tmickelson in 15 minutes | 14:13 |
| jelkner | but i'm not sure | 14:13 |
| jelkner | either way | 14:13 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 14:14 |
| jelkner | we can talk about the agenda now | 14:14 |
| fkoikoi | sure | 14:14 |
| jelkner | and then copy and past from the log if BigBrother doesn't do it for us | 14:14 |
| scooper1 | So that mean daniel, svaye, freena, janet and scooper | 14:14 |
| scooper1 | are all learning python right | 14:14 |
| jelkner | yes | 14:14 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist is doing a wonderful job with tboimah and mulbah | 14:15 |
| scooper1 | and it also mean that they are no longer learning web development??? | 14:15 |
| jelkner | he meets with them 4 hours a week | 14:15 |
| jelkner | scooper1, it means they will focus on getting PCEP first | 14:15 |
| jelkner | since web developers need to know python | 14:15 |
| jelkner | look, i'm just trying to help | 14:15 |
| jelkner | you can do whatever you like | 14:15 |
| jelkner | let me finish with fkoikoi | 14:16 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist meets with tboimah and mulbah 4 hours a week | 14:16 |
| scooper1 | ok got you..... but I say this before..... | 14:16 |
| scooper1 | ok | 14:16 |
| jelkner | every monday and friday from 2 to 4 pm your time | 14:17 |
| jelkner | it is great to have that structure | 14:17 |
| jelkner | unfortunately, i don't have 4 hours | 14:17 |
| fkoikoi | !add updates from each group | 14:17 |
| BigBrother | Success: "updates from each group" has been added to the agenda. | 14:17 |
| fkoikoi | 2. Discussion on svaye and dcammue joining the python group | 14:17 |
| fkoikoi | !add Discussion on svaye and dcammue joining the python group | 14:17 |
| BigBrother | Success: "Discussion on svaye and dcammue joining the python group" has been added to the agenda. | 14:17 |
| jelkner | good svaye is here | 14:18 |
| jelkner | while i don't have 4 hours | 14:18 |
| fkoikoi | !add finalizing the mailing process | 14:18 |
| BigBrother | Success: "finalizing the mailing process" has been added to the agenda. | 14:18 |
| jelkner | i would like to propose that we set up a 90 minute meeting session each week | 14:18 |
| fkoikoi | !add AOB | 14:18 |
| BigBrother | Success: "AOB" has been added to the agenda. | 14:18 |
| fkoikoi | !agenda | 14:18 |
| BigBrother | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 14:18 |
| BigBrother | Request for NOVA Web Tutor (added by Jmolina) | 14:18 |
| BigBrother | NOVA Web Website Updates (added by Jmolina) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | New IRC Channel (added by Jmolina) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | !Cooking Stove Project (added by Jmolina) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | Georgetown Professor (added by Jmolina) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | Nova web Tutor (added by klarios) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | charle's introductory message (added by klarios) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | Linode/Server terminations (added by klarios) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | meeting with Maddie (added by klarios) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | updates from each group (added by fkoikoi) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | Discussion on svaye and dcammue joining the python group (added by fkoikoi) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | finalizing the mailing process (added by fkoikoi) | 14:19 |
| BigBrother | AOB (added by fkoikoi) | 14:19 |
| jelkner | wow, this is broken! | 14:19 |
| jelkner | these are klarios and Jmolina's NOVA Web items | 14:19 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, don't try to use BigBrother until we get this fixed | 14:19 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 14:20 |
| jelkner | i think we need only one item tomorrow | 14:20 |
| jelkner | maybe 2 | 14:20 |
| jelkner | 1. Update on plan to meet May 1st challenge | 14:20 |
| fkoikoi | let me remove the agenda | 14:20 |
| jelkner | 2. Response to Kamal's email | 14:20 |
| jelkner | those are the two items | 14:21 |
| fkoikoi | okay Jeff | 14:21 |
| jelkner | so, fkoikoi and svaye, do you think we could schedule a 90 minute "class" each Saturday? | 14:22 |
| fkoikoi | sure Jeff | 14:22 |
| svaye | +1 | 14:22 |
| jelkner | let me ask you a few questions about that | 14:22 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 14:22 |
| jelkner | actually, i could propose to smohamed that we stop meeting for breakfast on saturdays for awhile | 14:23 |
| jelkner | so we can focus on class instead | 14:23 |
| jelkner | class could actually meet for 2 hours before our weekly meeting | 14:23 |
| jelkner | from 12 to 2 pm your time | 14:23 |
| jelkner | 7 to 9 am my time | 14:23 |
| jelkner | i can ask smohamed to join us | 14:24 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 14:24 |
| scooper1 | apart from Saturday are the other days set aside | 14:24 |
| scooper1 | for python lecture or lesson | 14:24 |
| jelkner | scooper1, i simply can't | 14:24 |
| jelkner | i was hoping to get ubuntourist to help | 14:25 |
| scooper1 | is it a quesition jeff | 14:25 |
| scooper1 | question | 14:25 |
| jelkner | that's why i was proposing we all work on PCEP | 14:25 |
| scooper1 | with python??? | 14:25 |
| jelkner | yes | 14:25 |
| jelkner | but he can't do more than 4 hours | 14:25 |
| jelkner | so if we are sticking with Linux+ | 14:25 |
| jelkner | he can't do that | 14:25 |
| jelkner | that's why i dropped that plan | 14:25 |
| scooper1 | got you.... | 14:26 |
| jelkner | so, it would be 2 hours a week with me | 14:26 |
| jelkner | that's all the time i have | 14:26 |
| jelkner | on saturday | 14:26 |
| jelkner | 12 noon to 2 pm | 14:26 |
| jelkner | your time | 14:26 |
| scooper1 | got you... | 14:26 |
| jelkner | if you all want to succeed, you will need to put in a lot more hours than that! | 14:26 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 14:26 |
| jelkner | a lot more | 14:26 |
| jelkner | but that would be the time we could meet to discuss questions, check on progress, and make plans together | 14:27 |
| fkoikoi | sounds great | 14:28 |
| scooper1 | question please??? | 14:29 |
| scooper1 | you did not give your feed back on pretty picture challenge1, 3 and 4.... | 14:30 |
| scooper1 | Any way I m try to analyze challenge 1 and 2 before completion...... | 14:31 |
| jelkner | scooper1, i'm finding this to be really hard | 14:32 |
| jelkner | i thought we talked about that a few minutes ago | 14:32 |
| jelkner | and then you are asking again | 14:32 |
| jelkner | i feel you aren't getting me when i try to explain things | 14:33 |
| jelkner | so i don't know what to do | 14:33 |
| jelkner | i gave you a list of questions i will have for you when you finish sheet 3 | 14:33 |
| jelkner | look in the logs, and try to understand what i'm asking | 14:33 |
| jelkner | i could say it again | 14:34 |
| jelkner | but i don't know if that will help | 14:34 |
| jelkner | i'm looking for a function draw_face(x, y)... | 14:34 |
| jelkner | etc. | 14:34 |
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| jelkner | !agenda | 14:35 |
| BigBrother | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 14:35 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, tmickelson is here | 14:35 |
| scooper1 | sorry Jeff | 14:35 |
| jelkner | and he thinks he just fixed BigBrother | 14:36 |
| scooper1 | I just when through the lod | 14:36 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 14:36 |
| jelkner | scooper1, here is what i think you should do | 14:36 |
| fkoikoi | should I try again? | 14:36 |
| jelkner | 1. you should plan to meet *together* for sessions of at least 2 hours | 14:37 |
| jelkner | in the same place at the same time | 14:37 |
| jelkner | 2. you should work on the same sheet | 14:37 |
| jelkner | sheet 2 for, example | 14:37 |
| jelkner | 3. you should try to finish the entire sheet in one session | 14:37 |
| jelkner | 2 to 3 hours, perhaps? | 14:37 |
| jelkner | it depends on the sheet | 14:37 |
| jelkner | *THEN*, you should meet with me on Saturday morning and we can go over the entire sheet | 14:38 |
| jelkner | in one 2 hour session | 14:38 |
| scooper1 | got you... | 14:38 |
| jelkner | we can talk about the programming concepts the sheet was designed to teach | 14:38 |
| jelkner | and discuss other ways to reinforce and extend those idea | 14:38 |
| jelkner | s | 14:38 |
| jelkner | if you want to earn PCEP by May 1st, you will have to learn to work that way | 14:39 |
| jelkner | otherwise, we will not make sufficient progress | 14:39 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, svaye, can you help organize this effort? | 14:39 |
| jelkner | and do you want to start tomorrow? | 14:40 |
| jelkner | i haven't had the chance to talk with sahnun about our change in plans yet | 14:40 |
| jelkner | but we are not meeting tomorrow anyway | 14:40 |
| jelkner | since he is away this weekend | 14:40 |
| svaye | I would like to start tomorrow jelkner because I have so much to learn | 14:41 |
| jelkner | yes i do! ;-) | 14:41 |
| fkoikoi | +1, thanks Jeff for your continues help and support | 14:41 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, svaye can you please spend time today on Sheet 3? | 14:42 |
| jelkner | oh way | 14:43 |
| jelkner | wait | 14:43 |
| jelkner | you haven't done Sheet 2 yet, right? | 14:43 |
| jelkner | I like Sheet 2 a lot | 14:44 |
| jelkner | since it doesn't require graphics | 14:44 |
| jelkner | one more thing, scooper1 | 14:44 |
| scooper1 | yes I m here | 14:44 |
| jelkner | assignment for you: | 14:44 |
| fkoikoi | I am on challenge 6 and 7, sheet 2 | 14:44 |
| jelkner | learn from tboimah and mulbah how to start a shared terminal | 14:44 |
| jelkner | so you can offer us one during our class | 14:44 |
| jelkner | later, you should learn from them how to add audio | 14:45 |
| scooper1 | Audio will be a little concern according to thomas | 14:45 |
| fkoikoi | I think scooper already have an idea on how to share terminal | 14:45 |
| jelkner | awesome | 14:46 |
| fkoikoi | because he did that with me | 14:46 |
| jelkner | scooper1, you are responsible for that | 14:46 |
| jelkner | you'll paste the link in the chat | 14:46 |
| jelkner | and i'll just connect to it | 14:46 |
| jelkner | great | 14:46 |
| jelkner | we can forget audio for now | 14:46 |
| jelkner | that's sad | 14:46 |
| jelkner | since it would make things better | 14:46 |
| jelkner | but i understand the challenge | 14:46 |
| jelkner | to typing it is... | 14:46 |
| jelkner | now you all have to keep increasing your typing speed! | 14:47 |
| jelkner | ok, i have to go | 14:47 |
| scooper1 | because we will need head phone... and or the feed back might be bad | 14:47 |
| jelkner | when i get there in August | 14:47 |
| scooper1 | because we are all situated in the lab... | 14:47 |
| jelkner | i can bring speakers and we can practice with ubuntourist making this work | 14:47 |
| jelkner | the best set up would be everyone sharing 1 audio connection | 14:48 |
| scooper1 | We did that before when left liberia... and the reception was very bad.... | 14:48 |
| jelkner | with speakers, not headphones | 14:48 |
| scooper1 | nevertheless we can give it a try again.... | 14:48 |
| jelkner | yes, but with more bandwidth, we could make it work | 14:48 |
| jelkner | not now | 14:48 |
| jelkner | when i get there | 14:48 |
| jelkner | i'll bring some nice speakers | 14:48 |
| jelkner | and a nice mic | 14:49 |
| jelkner | so you have to get me there! | 14:49 |
| jelkner | let's focus on that | 14:49 |
| scooper1 | wow thank Jeff.... | 14:49 |
| jelkner | svaye, fkoikoi, scooper1, complete Sheet 2 today | 14:49 |
| jelkner | http://www.openbookproject.net/pybiblio/gasp/course/2-tables.html | 14:50 |
| jelkner | We can go over it tomorrow at 12 noon your time | 14:50 |
| jelkner | see you then... | 14:50 |
| jelkner | here is the plan for tomorrow | 14:51 |
| jelkner | i'm going to "lecture" on how to complete Sheet 2 | 14:51 |
| jelkner | i'll complete the whole thing in less than an hour while you all watch me | 14:51 |
| jelkner | you won't learn much unless you tried it yourselves already | 14:51 |
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| jelkner | understood? | 14:51 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 14:52 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 14:52 |
| BigBrother | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 14:52 |
| jelkner | ok, fkoikoi tmickelson has a favor to ask you | 14:52 |
| tmickelson | fkoikoi, can you try adding items to the agenda now? | 14:52 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 14:52 |
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| fkoikoi | sure tmickelson | 14:53 |
| fkoikoi | !add updates from each group | 14:54 |
| BigBrother | Success: "updates from each group" has been added to the agenda. | 14:54 |
| fkoikoi | !agenda | 14:54 |
| BigBrother | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 14:54 |
| BigBrother | updates from each group (added by fkoikoi) | 14:54 |
| fkoikoi | let me see if this won't also appear in the novawebdev channel | 14:54 |
| fkoikoi | tmickelson??? | 14:56 |
| fkoikoi | it appears on the novawebdev channel too | 14:57 |
| tmickelson | fkoikoi, i updated bigbrother to write to the correct agenda file | 15:00 |
| tmickelson | ACTION signs off | 15:00 |
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| scooper | Python developer I been online hour ago | 20:54 |
| svaye | Good evening scooper | 20:55 |
| scooper | just in case any one turn kindly flash me on my number I m willing to come back online | 20:55 |
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| scooper | oh saye you are here | 20:56 |
| scooper | is the thing any thing we can do together??? | 20:57 |
| scooper | on the task??? | 20:57 |
| scooper | Svaye are you there???/ | 20:57 |
| svaye | I am here | 20:58 |
| scooper | ACTION signing up to go sleep...... | 20:58 |
| scooper | ooh | 20:58 |
| scooper | ok what can we do together since you are here | 20:58 |
| svaye | nothing really important | 20:59 |
| scooper | did you complete all the challenges in sheet two??? | 20:59 |
| scooper | if yes did you push it to your remotely repository??? | 21:00 |
| scooper | If you are not active I m leaving to take my nap.... | 21:00 |
| scooper | ACTION signing out to sleep.... | 21:00 |
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| svaye | ACTION signs off to complete the challenges | 21:02 |
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