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| mulbah | Good morning scooper | 12:48 |
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| scooper | Morning mulbah | 12:48 |
| scooper | how was your night??? | 12:48 |
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| BigBrother | mulbah | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | Tick Tock! | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | It's 13:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting. | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | Uh-oh! That is embarassing... | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | Unfortunately, there are no items on the agenda! | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | Have a nice day, Websters! | 13:00 |
| mulbah | Hello dcammue | 13:10 |
| dcammue | how are you mulbah | 13:12 |
| dcammue | Are you home? | 13:12 |
| mulbah | Yeah I'm home | 13:13 |
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| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 14:02 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon svaye | 14:02 |
| jelkner | How are you doing? | 14:03 |
| jelkner | We haven't chatted for a bit. | 14:03 |
| svaye | I good | 14:03 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning jeff | 14:04 |
| svaye | I am good jelkner | 14:04 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon fkoikoi | 14:04 |
| jelkner | I attended a wonderful meeting yesterday | 14:04 |
| jelkner | As a representative of NOVA Web Development | 14:05 |
| jelkner | Johanna, the SECOSOL organizer, was there too. | 14:05 |
| jelkner | We both left the meeting feeling very hopeful | 14:05 |
| fkoikoi | wow, that's good | 14:05 |
| fkoikoi | did you also meet with shanun | 14:06 |
| jelkner | No, he is not feeling well | 14:06 |
| jelkner | The meeting was to organize the DNOVA Council | 14:06 |
| jelkner | DNOVA is for "democratizing Northern Virginia" | 14:07 |
| jelkner | it was hosted at the big state university in our area | 14:07 |
| jelkner | George Mason University | 14:07 |
| jelkner | I am mentioning it both because I am excited about it | 14:08 |
| jelkner | but also because if we are successful | 14:08 |
| jelkner | it will have real possible positive implications for Jetro Web Development | 14:09 |
| jelkner | the goal of the council is to help create an "ecosystem" in support of community wealth building | 14:09 |
| fkoikoi | wow, that's a wonderful news | 14:09 |
| svaye | that's wonderful | 14:09 |
| jelkner | https://democracycollaborative.org/programs/cwb | 14:10 |
| jelkner | I spoke as clearly and loadly as I could that what I need to keep moving forward with our tech worker coop project is paid work doing computing projects that serve human needs. | 14:11 |
| jelkner | i am so hopeful that such projects will come to us through our connection with the project | 14:12 |
| jelkner | connection with the council, i mean | 14:12 |
| jelkner | anyway, back to our focus | 14:12 |
| jelkner | for Jetro Web Development, your task is to develop the skills to do paid work | 14:13 |
| jelkner | my job will be to find that work | 14:13 |
| jelkner | i have the easier job | 14:13 |
| jelkner | you have the harder one | 14:13 |
| jelkner | you need to develop the skills! | 14:13 |
| fkoikoi | sure | 14:13 |
| jelkner | so, is there anything i can help with in that regard now? | 14:14 |
| jelkner | svaye, after we get 3 people through PCEP, i want to resume working with you and dcammune on CIW | 14:15 |
| jelkner | but one thing at a time | 14:15 |
| svaye | I understand jelkner | 14:15 |
| jelkner | that said, i encourage you to keep studying on your own | 14:16 |
| svaye | I am doing everything I can to do well in the PCEP | 14:16 |
| jelkner | great | 14:16 |
| jelkner | once all the Jetro Web team has a shared basic understanding of Python | 14:17 |
| jelkner | it will really help us learn other things | 14:17 |
| jelkner | this process will get easier over time | 14:17 |
| jelkner | because one we are addressing the "meta topic" of learning how to learn | 14:17 |
| jelkner | so while Python is taking us a long time | 14:18 |
| jelkner | future tech studies will go faster | 14:18 |
| fkoikoi | so jeff, which operator have more precedence | 14:18 |
| fkoikoi | between | 14:18 |
| fkoikoi | <=, >=, !=, and == | 14:19 |
| jelkner | i'll be honest, fkoikoi | 14:20 |
| jelkner | my first guess is that they have the same precedence | 14:20 |
| jelkner | but there are two things i would do to find out | 14:20 |
| jelkner | first, i'd do a quick web search for "precedence of Python comparison operators" | 14:21 |
| jelkner | https://runestone.academy/ns/books/published/fopp/Conditionals/PrecedenceofOperators.html | 14:21 |
| jelkner | i found that | 14:21 |
| jelkner | it seems my guess is correct | 14:21 |
| jelkner | the next thing is to test this in the Python REPL | 14:22 |
| jelkner | >>> 6 >= 6 < 11 | 14:22 |
| jelkner | True | 14:22 |
| jelkner | stuff like that | 14:23 |
| jelkner | >>> 6 < 11 > 6 | 14:23 |
| jelkner | True | 14:23 |
| jelkner | >>> 6 < 11 < 6 | 14:23 |
| jelkner | False | 14:24 |
| jelkner | etc. | 14:24 |
| jelkner | here is a strange one for you | 14:24 |
| fkoikoi | so all of them have the same precedence | 14:24 |
| jelkner | >>> (6 < 11) == 1 | 14:25 |
| jelkner | True | 14:25 |
| fkoikoi | why true | 14:26 |
| fkoikoi | 6 is less than 11, that's correct | 14:26 |
| jelkner | this involves a deeper understanding of data types in Python and how they work | 14:27 |
| jelkner | you need first to understand the type bool | 14:27 |
| jelkner | and what i should do now is make that your homework assignment | 14:28 |
| jelkner | since the goal here is for you to learn how to learn | 14:28 |
| jelkner | my "clue" is that to understand why (6 < 11) == 1 is True | 14:29 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 14:29 |
| jelkner | you need to understand the type of (6 < 11) and how Python treats that type | 14:29 |
| jelkner | Monday is a holiday for me | 14:29 |
| jelkner | Martin Luther King day | 14:29 |
| jelkner | so i don't go to work | 14:29 |
| jelkner | i'll be home that day | 14:29 |
| jelkner | let's not plan to meet at 7 am | 14:30 |
| jelkner | but if you decide you want to meet with me a bit later, send me an email | 14:30 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 14:30 |
| jelkner | i could meet around this time, but only if you need me to | 14:30 |
| fkoikoi | alright | 14:31 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 14:31 |
| jelkner | enjoy the rest of your day | 14:31 |
| fkoikoi | you too jeff | 14:32 |
| jelkner | i invite and encourage you to watch the #novawebdev meeting coming up | 14:32 |
| jelkner | klarios and jmolina are doing a really good job learning to manage that business | 14:32 |
| jelkner | by watching them, you can get a feel for where we want to go with Jetro Web in the future | 14:33 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 14:33 |
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