| jelkner | Hello tboimah and dcammue | 12:12 |
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| tboimah | Good morning Jeff | 12:12 |
| dcammue | Good morning jelkner | 12:12 |
| jelkner | tboimah, why is scooper planning to take the PCEP instead of having you try again? | 12:13 |
| jelkner | i don't understand your plan | 12:13 |
| jelkner | also, i never heard from you what happened when you took it | 12:13 |
| jelkner | you said you ran out of time | 12:14 |
| jelkner | why? | 12:14 |
| jelkner | i wish i could better guide you | 12:14 |
| jelkner | it is so challenging when i'm not there to see what you are doing | 12:14 |
| tboimah | I do not want any bad feeling | 12:14 |
| tboimah | i have already lose the change | 12:14 |
| jelkner | well, there will be worse feelings if no one passes | 12:14 |
| tboimah | i was have now is an other | 12:14 |
| tboimah | person time to try | 12:15 |
| jelkner | i personally think that is a bad strategy | 12:15 |
| jelkner | but hey, you all get to decide | 12:15 |
| tboimah | Yeah scooper say that he will go for the test | 12:15 |
| jelkner | i am not feeling confident you have a good strategy | 12:15 |
| tboimah | before the month come to an end | 12:15 |
| jelkner | you could prove me wrong | 12:16 |
| jelkner | tboimah, i need to tell you honestly, i can tell when someone is ready | 12:16 |
| jelkner | i can tell by the way they ask questions | 12:16 |
| jelkner | so far, none of you have asked me the kinds of questions that would tell me you are ready | 12:17 |
| tboimah | jelkner i can tell you that i am ready for that test but all have to work on now is the time | 12:17 |
| tboimah | i need to learn how to | 12:17 |
| tboimah | answer the question more faster | 12:17 |
| jelkner | tboimah, you will work with kevin today, yes? | 12:17 |
| tboimah | but scooper say he want to give it a try | 12:17 |
| jelkner | that's fine | 12:17 |
| tboimah | yes | 12:17 |
| jelkner | good | 12:18 |
| jelkner | kevin is an excellent teacher | 12:18 |
| jelkner | so it scooper can try | 12:18 |
| jelkner | and he he doesn't pass, you can try again, yes? | 12:18 |
| jelkner | please keep studying, tboimah | 12:18 |
| jelkner | and study hard | 12:18 |
| tboimah | yes if it is fine with the team | 12:18 |
| jelkner | my students here come to me with questions all the time | 12:19 |
| tboimah | because i do not want any bad feeling | 12:19 |
| jelkner | that's fine | 12:19 |
| jelkner | i don't want any bad feeling either | 12:19 |
| tboimah | I do not want the team member to say that tboimah have try the first time he did not make it and instead of an other person going them Jelkner is saying he going again | 12:20 |
| tboimah | *should | 12:21 |
| jelkner | no problem | 12:21 |
| jelkner | but let's make a plan for after the next person goes if they don't make it | 12:21 |
| jelkner | i am trying to get you to do what my successful students here do | 12:21 |
| jelkner | they study the materials i give them | 12:21 |
| jelkner | like these 129 practice problems: | 12:22 |
| jelkner | https://codeberg.org/ACC/csc221/src/branch/master/PCEP/Questions | 12:22 |
| jelkner | and they come to me and ask intelligent questions about particular problems | 12:22 |
| jelkner | i can tell from the intelligence of their questiions that they are ready | 12:22 |
| tboimah | but from my exprience i get from the test i will share it with the team so the next person that is going will not be a failer like me | 12:22 |
| jelkner | the way they ask the question tells me they are doing "meta analysis" | 12:23 |
| jelkner | they are thinking: | 12:23 |
| jelkner | 1. What important PCEP concept is this question trying to assess? | 12:23 |
| jelkner | 2. What particular things about the Python language to I need to know to show I understand the tested concept? | 12:24 |
| tboimah | jelkner the reason some time i did not ask you question is that when i have a problem i like to think about how to solve it first if i did not get it before i can try reaching to people | 12:24 |
| jelkner | 3. How can I organize my study to be sure I can answer similar questions (or questions on the same "domain") on the exam? | 12:24 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll trust you | 12:25 |
| jelkner | i'm just trying to help | 12:25 |
| jelkner | but remember, if no one asks probing, intelligent questions, i have no way to determine their readiness | 12:25 |
| jelkner | i'm only trying to help | 12:25 |
| jelkner | ok, i have to go | 12:25 |
| jelkner | please work with kevin today | 12:25 |
| jelkner | and i'll wait to hear from you all | 12:26 |
| tboimah | Okay Jeff thanks for all the help you been giving us | 12:26 |
| tboimah | we really appreciate that | 12:26 |
| dcammue | jelkner, | 12:26 |
| jelkner | you're most welcome, my friend! i want for us to figure this out1 | 12:26 |
| jelkner | out! | 12:26 |
| jelkner | dcammue, i need to go | 12:26 |
| jelkner | can we talk tomorrow at 9 am my time? | 12:26 |
| jelkner | i have a student about to arrive for a makeup test | 12:27 |
| jelkner | so i have to go | 12:27 |
| dcammue | can python give a random selection of words | 12:27 |
| jelkner | if you have a long list of strings, each with an index | 12:27 |
| jelkner | you can use the random module to choose randomly from the list | 12:28 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:28 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for now | 12:28 |
| jelkner | dcammue, i do that all the time | 12:28 |
| dcammue | thanks | 12:28 |
| dcammue | okay | 12:28 |
| jelkner | i have a python program that chooses random pairs of students for projects | 12:28 |
| jelkner | i can show it to you tomorrow | 12:28 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 12:28 |
| dcammue | okay | 12:28 |
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