IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Tuesday, 2024-03-19

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jelknerHello fkoikoi and scooper 10:40
jelknerGreat to see you!!!10:40
fkoikoigood morning jeff10:41
jelknerI'm a bit early, but if you're ready now, we can start10:41
scoopergood morning Jeff10:41
jelknerLOL, and I can say "Good morning" to you, now that the time has changed ;-)10:41
fkoikoii am ready now jeff10:41
jelknergreat10:41
jelknerscooper?10:41
scooper+110:41
fkoikoiI sent you a mail this morning jeff10:42
jelknerACTION goes to look at his email, brb10:42
jelknerawesome, i see the list10:43
jelknergreat. so Jetro will start with 810:43
jelknera fantastic group, methinks10:44
jelknernow, we have *a lot* of work to do to turn this fantastic group into a true group of cooperative business worker / owners10:44
fkoikoithanks 10:44
jelknerthat needs to be our focus now10:45
jelknerso, we want to begin regular business practices10:45
jelkneri can meet with all 8 of you whenever you two tell me you think we should10:45
scooperSaturday10:46
scooperis that ok for you???10:46
fkoikoiwe can meet this Saturday if possible 10:46
jelknersure it's possible10:46
jelknercan we meet at 9 am my time?10:46
jelknerthat would be 1 pm your time10:47
scooperWhat time is it on your side now???10:47
fkoikoisure jeff10:47
scooper+110:47
jelknerscooper, here is a tool you will find helpful:10:47
gabrielGood morning jeff, how's your weekend10:48
jelknerhttps://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/10:48
jelknerGood morning gabriel 10:48
jelknerapologies, but i have no time for chit chat10:48
jelknerneed to get down to business10:48
jelknerok, between now and saturday, I will:10:48
jelkner1. make sure the email alias, jetroweb@novawebdevelopment.org includes all 8 of you10:49
jelkner2. send you an email with the invoicing requirements i want to begin implementing in April10:49
successfulGood morning folks10:50
jelkner3. send you (and the Supe) details on the plane ticket I purchased to Monrovia at the beginning of Auguest10:50
jelknerthat's my ToDo list10:50
jelknerfkoikoi, scooper tboimah, gabriel, what's yours?10:50
tboimahI am in the lab10:51
tboimahwith fkoikoi mulbah and gabriel 10:51
jelknertboimah, i'm asking about your ToDo list10:51
jelknertake a look at the irclogs10:51
jelkneri just shared mine10:51
fkoikoi okay 10:51
gabrieli'm good just waiting on you for my next move jeff10:51
jelkneri'm asking for yours10:51
fkoikoimy todo list 10:51
jelknerthat's not good, gabriel 10:51
tboimahACTION go to read the past conversation10:51
jelknerwe don't have time to wait for our next move10:51
jelknerwe need to *keep moving*!!!10:52
gabrielwhy?10:52
gabrielsure am waiting on you cuz u said i should wait for your order10:52
fkoikoi1. make sure jeff get jetro web operating agreement before the week ends 10:52
jelknerbecause, gabriel, we have so far to go if we want to be successful10:52
jelknerif we sit around and wait, we will never get there10:52
mulbahGood morning Jeff10:52
jelkneri *never* said you should wait for my order10:53
jelknerthat's not how this works, my dear friend10:53
gabrielso what next since i have not take the PECEP yet?10:53
jelknerif you want to be a worker coop owner10:53
jelkneryou need to be a boss10:53
jelknerand a worker10:53
jelknerlike all of us10:53
jelknerthat means we are all responsible together10:53
jelknerfor our success10:53
jelknerand we all have to take initiative10:54
jelknerthose who sit around and wait will get left behind :-(10:54
jelknergabriel, you haven't passed PCEP yet, so you should be making yourself ready10:54
jelknerthat's your ToDo10:55
gabrielreason be is that u said i should take the PECEP first before diving into my next study10:55
jelknerget ready for PCEP10:55
jelkneryes i did10:55
fkoikoi2. meeting with all of the 8 members on Saturday 10:55
fkoikoi3. meet with the lawyer and start the registration of the business10:55
fkoikoithat's my todo list for now jeff10:55
jelkneryou rock, fkoikoi 10:55
jelknerthat's a great ToDo list10:55
jelkneryou can't do 3 until i send the laywer's fee10:56
jelknerand i won't do that until you complete 110:56
jelknerso focus on that10:56
fkoikoialright 10:56
jelknerthanks, fkoikoi 10:56
dcammueGood morning every one10:56
jelknerit was really helpful10:56
fkoikoithanks jeff10:57
jelkneri'm so glad to see that you "get it"10:57
jelknerwe need that kind of leadership10:57
jelknerok, so we have a plan10:57
gabrielok i have a lot i think i would love to be going forward instead so i want to start exploring using python to interact with operating system, how's that?10:57
jelknermulbah, and tboimah, you can resume your linux+ study10:57
jelknerif you would like to10:58
jelknerthat would be a huge help10:58
tboimahwe are already on that10:58
jelknerawesome10:58
jelknerso, tboimah and mulbah 10:58
jelkneryou should have typed that into the chat10:58
jelknertboimah and mulbah's ToDo:10:58
jelknerResume Linux+ study so Jetro Web has sysadmins10:59
jelknerthat's enough for you10:59
tboimahBut you ask for today list not my every list10:59
jelkneri was thinking of the week10:59
jelknerbetween now and saturday10:59
jelknerbut that is your ToDo for every day ;-)10:59
jelknerit is a big ask10:59
jelknerLinux+ will be a lot of work11:00
jelknerif you can be mostly ready by the time I get there in august11:00
gabrielso i would like to start next month with cousera an online platform for google tech11:00
jelkneri'll bring a copy of the more recent study book11:00
jelknerand we can prepare together to take it11:00
jelkneri want to take it too11:00
jelknergabriel, i'm glad you're bringing this up11:01
jelkneryou need to do some serious deciding11:01
jelknerand we can talk more about that on saturday11:01
jelknerit is fine if you want to pursue that path11:01
gabrielyah it's all on me 11:01
jelknerbut that is not the the Jetro Web focus11:02
jelknersince google is the very evil i am fighting against11:02
gabrieli have add it to my plan and register it at cousera11:02
jelknerso if you want to pursue that, you should11:02
jelknerbut you should then not join our coop11:02
jelknersince it will have a completely different focus11:02
jelknerand will get in your way11:02
jelknerand you will get in our way11:03
gabrielok i won't 11:03
gabrieli'll go with the coop11:03
jelknerit is your decision, my dear friend11:03
jelkneryou should follow *your dreams*11:04
jelknerbut i'm just saying that the business plan i am willing to support must be for social justice computing11:04
jelknerif it is not about using computers to make the lives of people everywhere better11:04
jelkneri don't want to use my limited resources to support it11:05
jelknergoogle is about making super, SUPER rich people even richer11:05
jelknerby stealing from us poor folk11:05
jelknerthat's what they do11:05
gabrielok i pledge to uphold the high purposes of the jetroweb jeff11:05
jelknerGoogle, Facebook, Amazon, all of them11:05
jelknerthey are now running the world11:05
jelknerand they got all their power by stealing from us!11:06
jelknerso, if you want to contribute to our coop, gabriel 11:06
jelknerwe are starting with Django web development11:07
jelknerso we need:11:07
jelkner1. Basic linux cli skills11:07
jelkner2. HTML, CSS, and JavaScript11:07
jelkner3. Python11:07
jelknerthose are the foundation11:07
jelknerfrom there, we do more advanced versions of each of those (Linux+ is advanced linux cli)11:08
gabrieljeff i love to go with two from the list so my ToDo:11:08
jelknerand then we can branch out into other free software tech11:08
gabriel1 and 311:08
jelknerdepending on our customers and our personal interests11:08
jelknerperfect11:08
jelknersince everyone needs those11:08
jelknerso, get ready for PCEP11:08
jelknerand talk to tboimah and mulbah about learning linux11:09
jelkneri have to go11:09
jelknerfkoikoi, we don't need to meet until saturday, do we?11:09
fkoikoiso Saturday meeting is a deal, right everyone? 11:09
scooperYES11:09
tboimah+111:09
mulbah+111:10
jelknergreat, try to get the whole team here11:10
fkoikoino jeff11:10
jelknerno jeff?11:10
fkoikoiwe can still meet11:10
jelknerstill meet when?11:10
jelknerour agenda saturday should include:11:10
jelkner1. discuss the Jetro Web Operating Agreement draft11:11
fkoikoiWednesday and Thursday 11:11
scooperJeff11:11
jelkner2. discuss Jeff's proposal for having Jetro begin billing him for hours11:11
jelknerscooper11:11
scooperfrom my opinion we don't need to meet till saturday.... 11:11
jelkneri agree11:11
jelknerlet's not meet unless we have an agenda11:11
jelknertime is precious11:12
scooperBecause we all need to go through the operating agreement properly11:12
jelknerlet's do our prep11:12
scooperand give our input or suggestion11:12
jelknerand be ready for a good meeting saturday11:12
jelknerif you need anything in between11:12
jelknerthat's what email is for11:12
jelknerlike kevin is trying to help you learn11:12
jelkneri really have to go11:13
jelknerso i'll see you at 1 pm saturday your time11:13
jelknerand email you between now and then11:13
scooperok11:13
jelkneris that ok, fkoikoi?11:13
fkoikoisure11:14
jelknergreat11:14
jelkneryou are making wonderful progress11:14
jelkneri am *really* happy!11:14
jelknerACTION signs off until saturday11:15
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