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| jelkner | Good morning scooper | 11:00 |
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| jelkner | Just you and me today? | 11:00 |
| scooper | Good morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| scooper | it's time we start our stand up meeting right?? | 11:01 |
| jelkner | yes | 11:02 |
| jelkner | 11 am UTC | 11:02 |
| scooper | Yesterday unfortunately for us the lawyer didn't turn up again, after Thomas and Dcammue visited for the meeting | 11:02 |
| scooper | But I did had a meeting with the community leadership | 11:02 |
| scooper | and recommend | 11:02 |
| jelkner | i think it is time to let the community leaders take the iniative | 11:03 |
| scooper | that we find the lawyer since he is too busy to reach us | 11:03 |
| jelkner | if they move, we should be ready to meet them | 11:03 |
| jelkner | if not, we need to move on ourselves | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i talked to kevin about this yesterday | 11:03 |
| scooper | Mr. Yoryor the other block chair supported my idea | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i plan to meet with Kamal, and tell him we are not ready to move forward on a school | 11:04 |
| jelkner | but to ask him that if someday in the future we are ready, can i please come back and tell him | 11:04 |
| scooper | and promise to fine the lawyer today. after this meeting with the lawyer he will them schedule an official date for Jetro members and he to me with the lawyer it his office | 11:04 |
| jelkner | then he can forget about us until we have a deed to land on which a school could be built | 11:05 |
| scooper | jelkner, | 11:05 |
| jelkner | you can keep doing what you think best | 11:05 |
| scooper | can we wait | 11:05 |
| scooper | still the meeting with the lawyer is finalized by the week end?? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | scooper, i do not want to do to Kamal what i did last year | 11:05 |
| jelkner | please do what you think is best | 11:06 |
| jelkner | mr. zawolo told me from experience that these land questions in Liberia are a mess | 11:06 |
| scooper | I m just appealing that we wait a little bit still this week can end | 11:06 |
| jelkner | well i won't have a chance to meet with Kamal for a few weeks anyway | 11:07 |
| jelkner | so no problem there | 11:07 |
| scooper | if I m not seeing any commitment in the community leaders I will tell we can proceed with your though or plan | 11:07 |
| jelkner | besides, if things ever change, we start the process again | 11:07 |
| jelkner | so no worries | 11:07 |
| jelkner | kevin agreed with me that we should only approach Kamal again when we have a deed in hand | 11:08 |
| jelkner | simple as that | 11:08 |
| scooper | jelkner, one more clarity on something | 11:08 |
| scooper | sure | 11:08 |
| scooper | The land in question is for the community according to the leadership | 11:08 |
| jelkner | good morning dcammue | 11:08 |
| jelkner | scooper, the problem is, according to mr. zawolo | 11:08 |
| jelkner | "the community" is not a legal entity | 11:09 |
| scooper | yesterday, I ask the leadership to turn the deed over to the community base on the lawyer advise | 11:09 |
| jelkner | which is what i feared | 11:09 |
| scooper | or the NOn Profit organization | 11:09 |
| jelkner | so "the community" can not own land | 11:09 |
| scooper | which one are we most interested in?? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | that means some legal entity owns it | 11:09 |
| scooper | got you | 11:09 |
| jelkner | we would need "the communtiy" to incorporate | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so it could hold legal title to the land | 11:10 |
| jelkner | that's what the non-profit would be | 11:10 |
| scooper | So in short the land should be given to the Non Profit organization right?? | 11:10 |
| jelkner | yes | 11:10 |
| jelkner | first step is figuring out who owns it now | 11:11 |
| jelkner | and to meet with them to see what they are willing to do | 11:11 |
| scooper | That was exact what I told Mr. Jerry Kolubah | 11:11 |
| tbiomah | So the leadership agree to give the land? | 11:11 |
| scooper | the other Chairman you met | 11:11 |
| jelkner | the leadership doesn't own the land | 11:11 |
| jelkner | how can they "give it" | 11:11 |
| jelkner | we still don't know who owns | 11:11 |
| jelkner | that's your first challenge | 11:11 |
| scooper | The land is own by the Kings family | 11:12 |
| jelkner | you need to figure out who owns the land | 11:12 |
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| jelkner | again, a family isn't a legal entity | 11:12 |
| jelkner | someone or some group of King family members might own it | 11:12 |
| jelkner | but "the family" can't own it | 11:12 |
| scooper | according to the other chairman | 11:13 |
| dcammue_ | but according to the last chairman that we have the last meet with | 11:13 |
| jelkner | so you are back to figuring who in the King family owns it | 11:13 |
| dcammue_ | he said that the land was donated to the community | 11:13 |
| scooper | the land was given by them to the community from their heir | 11:13 |
| jelkner | and would they be willing to turn the deed over legally to a community non-profit | 11:13 |
| dcammue_ | by the king family | 11:13 |
| scooper | When we meet with the lawyer | 11:13 |
| jelkner | scooper, you can't give the land to the community | 11:13 |
| jelkner | legally, the community doesn't exist | 11:14 |
| jelkner | it is not a legal entity | 11:14 |
| jelkner | it can't be "given" land | 11:14 |
| scooper | I will ask him who is the family heir to this property | 11:14 |
| jelkner | it is not legally possible | 11:14 |
| jelkner | you can leave the land sitting there | 11:14 |
| jelkner | and tell the community they can play soccer on it | 11:14 |
| jelkner | that's fine | 11:14 |
| jelkner | but "the community" doesn't own it | 11:14 |
| scooper | I m getting your point jelkner | 11:14 |
| jelkner | great | 11:15 |
| jelkner | ok, let's move on | 11:15 |
| scooper | so when meet with the lawyer | 11:15 |
| scooper | my question to him is | 11:15 |
| jelkner | who owns the land? | 11:15 |
| jelkner | who holds the deed? | 11:15 |
| scooper | can the family heir kindly give this land to the Non Profit organzation | 11:15 |
| dcammue_ | but we need to find out if the King family is around | 11:15 |
| jelkner | would they be interested in supporting our project | 11:16 |
| scooper | The lawyer know how to get them | 11:16 |
| dcammue_ | so we can meet with themselves | 11:16 |
| scooper | they have an Administrator who overseer all they properties activities | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and if so, that would require the creation of a community non-profit that would hold deed to the land so that a school could be built on it | 11:16 |
| jelkner | yes | 11:16 |
| jelkner | it's going to be hard according to mr. zawolo | 11:16 |
| dcammue_ | maybe that will be the best way to find more information about the land | 11:16 |
| jelkner | please continue to work with him | 11:17 |
| jelkner | let me focus on what i can help you with | 11:17 |
| scooper | I m jelkner | 11:17 |
| jelkner | since i really can't help here scooper | 11:17 |
| jelkner | so please work with mr. zawolo | 11:17 |
| jelkner | i will be depending on him | 11:17 |
| jelkner | i don't want to take up all our time with this | 11:17 |
| jelkner | i want to focus on what we can control | 11:17 |
| scooper | and I will also be relating to him regular | 11:17 |
| jelkner | not what we can't control | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we want to succeed | 11:18 |
| scooper | +1 | 11:18 |
| jelkner | let's focus on Jetro Web | 11:18 |
| jelkner | and not get lost in this | 11:18 |
| jelkner | Today is 8/15 | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i think it is the deadline for enrolling in UoPeople | 11:18 |
| jelkner | are all four students now enrolled? | 11:18 |
| jelkner | kevin now has the Linux+ books | 11:19 |
| jelkner | i gave them to him yesterday | 11:19 |
| jelkner | he is ready to start studying with Mulbah | 11:19 |
| jelkner | I talked to Kei yesterday | 11:19 |
| jelkner | she said she is working with Freena and Janet | 11:19 |
| jelkner | on Decidim | 11:19 |
| jelkner | Kevin and I had lunch with Anthony | 11:20 |
| scooper | jelkner, | 11:20 |
| scooper | can you please tell Sahnun | 11:20 |
| dcammue_ | yes | 11:20 |
| jelkner | he will be working with Kei to to provide tech support for Decidim | 11:20 |
| scooper | to respond to my mail | 11:20 |
| jelkner | yes, i will | 11:20 |
| dcammue_ | for me I save my sport | 11:20 |
| dcammue_ | already | 11:20 |
| jelkner | i'm going to text him today | 11:20 |
| jelkner | to confirm our breakfast on Saturday | 11:20 |
| jelkner | when i meet with him in person i will ask him to please reply to your email | 11:21 |
| jelkner | so that's everything | 11:21 |
| scooper | No some much of replying but resuming with me | 11:21 |
| jelkner | you need to give me a price for plane ticket and hotel in Accra | 11:21 |
| jelkner | he said he would | 11:21 |
| scooper | I saw that mail | 11:22 |
| jelkner | scooper, stand up meetings need to be quick and to the point | 11:22 |
| scooper | but he have'nt yet schedule a particular date | 11:22 |
| jelkner | i have to set up my classroom | 11:22 |
| jelkner | you work that out with him | 11:22 |
| jelkner | not my job! | 11:22 |
| scooper | ACTION done for today meeting | 11:22 |
| jelkner | ok, let's meet on monday next | 11:22 |
| scooper | ok | 11:22 |
| dcammue_ | jelkner, | 11:22 |
| jelkner | don't forget email is our best friend for asynchronous communication | 11:23 |
| dcammue_ | I have some issue with my charger | 11:23 |
| jelkner | so sorry dcammue_ | 11:23 |
| dcammue_ | the new computer charger | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i can't do anything | 11:23 |
| jelkner | see what you can do | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i'm here in virginia, my dear friend | 11:23 |
| dcammue_ | I think when scooper goes to Ghana he will have to get some | 11:23 |
| jelkner | yes, that is possible | 11:24 |
| jelkner | good idea | 11:24 |
| jelkner | that's the kind of thinking you need | 11:24 |
| jelkner | look for opportunities to solve problems | 11:24 |
| dcammue_ | okay thanks for today | 11:24 |
| jelkner | see you all on monday | 11:24 |
| dcammue_ | okay | 11:24 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until 11 am UTC on Monday 8/19 | 11:24 |
| tbiomah | jelkner, have a nice day | 11:25 |
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