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| jelkner | !agenda | 12:15 |
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| BigBrother | Tick Tock! | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | It's 13:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting. | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | This is the agenda for today: | 13:00 |
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| BigBrother | Hiring two 1/2 Jetrowebsters for Decidim project (added by jelkner) | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | Have a nice day, Websters! | 13:00 |
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| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 13:35 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 13:35 |
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| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 13:56 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 13:56 |
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| tboimah | !agenda | 14:16 |
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| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 14:16 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 14:16 |
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| jelkner | Good afternoon dcammue and tboimah! | 14:55 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 14:55 |
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| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 14:55 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 14:55 |
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| jelkner | !agenda | 14:56 |
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| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 14:56 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 14:56 |
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| tboimah | Good morning jelkner | 15:01 |
| jelkner | not me tboimah | 15:04 |
| jelkner | i don't want to be channel op on this channel! | 15:04 |
| jelkner | i'm a guest here | 15:04 |
| jelkner | it is *your* channel | 15:05 |
| jelkner | you need to be channel op along with gabriel_jetro | 15:05 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 15:05 |
| BigBrother | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 15:05 |
| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 15:05 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 15:05 |
| BigBrother | AOB (added by tboimah) | 15:05 |
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| jelkner | Good afternoon jkollie | 15:06 |
| jelkner | and mulbah and ledmer | 15:06 |
| jelkner | or good morning to ledmer ;-) | 15:06 |
| jkollie | Good morning jelkner | 15:06 |
| mulbah | Good morning jelkner | 15:07 |
| ledmer | Hi! | 15:07 |
| jelkner | good afternoon svaye | 15:07 |
| svaye | Good afternoon jelkner and ledmer | 15:07 |
| jelkner | it's morning for us svaye | 15:08 |
| jelkner | 5 hours earlier than your, remember | 15:08 |
| svaye | I am sorry *good morning * | 15:08 |
| jelkner | lol | 15:08 |
| svaye | How are you doing now jelkner, I didn't get the chance to ask on Thursday | 15:09 |
| jelkner | i like mornings better svaye | 15:10 |
| jelkner | i'm getting to be an old man | 15:10 |
| jelkner | i feel best in the morning | 15:10 |
| jelkner | by the time we meet on thursday, i'm tire :-( | 15:10 |
| jelkner | s/tire/tired | 15:10 |
| jelkner | but i'm fresh now | 15:10 |
| jelkner | how about you? | 15:10 |
| svaye | I am good | 15:11 |
| jelkner | svaye, i spoke to ved | 15:11 |
| jelkner | he told me he has given you specific things to study | 15:11 |
| jelkner | that is *really* good | 15:11 |
| jelkner | when you can start doing for our businesses here what ved is doing, we will *really* be in business!! | 15:12 |
| svaye | Yeah he gave me a task, and I plan to email him tomorrow | 15:12 |
| jelkner | excellent | 15:12 |
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| svaye | I am sure by then I will have more knowledge on what he asked me to do | 15:13 |
| jelkner | if our businesses succeed (i should say *when* our businesses succeed), we will all owe ved our deepest gratitude! | 15:13 |
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| BigBrother | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 15:14 |
| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 15:14 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 15:14 |
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| jelkner | !add Update on the Jetro office | 15:14 |
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| jelkner | !agenda | 15:14 |
| BigBrother | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 15:14 |
| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 15:14 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 15:14 |
| BigBrother | AOB (added by tboimah) | 15:14 |
| BigBrother | Why is Websterss not running on this channel? (added by jelkner) | 15:14 |
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| BigBrother | Update on the Jetro office (added by jelkner) | 15:14 |
| jelkner | hey shmohamud, i haven't seen you in .... 45 minutes ;-) | 15:15 |
| jelkner | shmohamud and jelkner have breakfast together every saturday | 15:16 |
| jelkner | the talks we have are really helpful in figuring out what we are doing here | 15:16 |
| svaye | Good morning shmohamud | 15:21 |
| freena | Hello jelkner and shmohamud | 15:22 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon freena | 15:23 |
| freena | ! agenda | 15:23 |
| jelkner | no space freena | 15:23 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 15:23 |
| BigBrother | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 15:23 |
| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 15:23 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 15:23 |
| BigBrother | AOB (added by tboimah) | 15:23 |
| BigBrother | Why is Websterss not running on this channel? (added by jelkner) | 15:23 |
| BigBrother | Why is tboimah not a channel op on this channel? (added by jelkner) | 15:23 |
| BigBrother | Update on the Jetro office (added by jelkner) | 15:23 |
| freena | Wow | 15:25 |
| jelkner | tbiomah, there are 3 of you now | 15:25 |
| jelkner | i feel like you are agent smith in the matrix ;-) | 15:26 |
| jelkner | maybe that's a reference you won't know | 15:26 |
| tboimah | it's me Gabriel setting tboimah account to op | 15:26 |
| jelkner | ahh | 15:26 |
| jelkner | who is the real tboimah? | 15:27 |
| jelkner | remember, your chairing our meeting in 2 minutes | 15:27 |
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| tboimah_ | !agenda | 15:29 |
| BigBrother | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 15:29 |
| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 15:29 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 15:29 |
| BigBrother | AOB (added by tboimah) | 15:29 |
| BigBrother | Why is Websterss not running on this channel? (added by jelkner) | 15:29 |
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| BigBrother | Update on the Jetro office (added by jelkner) | 15:29 |
| shmohamud | Haha good morning all! | 15:30 |
| tboimah_ | Good day folk | 15:30 |
| gabriel_jetro | Greetings everyone | 15:30 |
| tboimah_ | let start the meeting | 15:30 |
| jelkner | Great to be with you all! | 15:30 |
| freena | Greetings all | 15:30 |
| jelkner | ok tboimah_ let's roll! | 15:31 |
| tboimah_ | the first item on the agenda is update on decidim | 15:31 |
| tboimah_ | I have been work with Tony this past | 15:31 |
| dcammue | Good morning jelkner | 15:31 |
| tboimah_ | day on decidim he give some important access That i need for this project | 15:31 |
| tboimah_ | And things are going fine, I email some question on the project, I am waiting on his respond to move on | 15:32 |
| tboimah_ | ACTION done | 15:33 |
| Stephen | Good morning/afternoon follks... | 15:33 |
| jelkner | i'll add a few things | 15:33 |
| jelkner | Good morning Stephen | 15:33 |
| dcammue | Good morning Stephen | 15:33 |
| tboimah_ | The second item on the agenda is for jelkner | 15:33 |
| tboimah_ | jelkner, can you please come in on that | 15:33 |
| jelkner | sure | 15:33 |
| tboimah_ | Good morning Stephen | 15:33 |
| jelkner | tboimah_, said "Jetro should try" | 15:34 |
| jelkner | i need to change that to "Jetro *must*" | 15:34 |
| jelkner | there is not try, do or do not (as Yoda says in Star Wars ;-) | 15:34 |
| jelkner | i've been saying for more than 6 months that the time of me sending stipends will come to an end | 15:35 |
| jelkner | the goal must be to transition to a situation where Jetro can earn its own revenue | 15:35 |
| jelkner | the Decidim project is an opportunity to begin doing this | 15:35 |
| jelkner | DNOVA is very interested in Decidim | 15:36 |
| jelkner | we are doing the deployment for the DNOVA Summit 2025 in April | 15:36 |
| jelkner | but we are not billing for that | 15:36 |
| jelkner | truth is, we are not ready to bill yet | 15:36 |
| jelkner | with hard work, we can be in a year | 15:36 |
| jelkner | so we need to put in the hard work! | 15:36 |
| jelkner | DNOVA is interested in using Decidim for their teach-ins they will be organizing | 15:37 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 15:37 |
| jelkner | but we aren't ready to support that | 15:37 |
| jelkner | so i told Ben about open source politics | 15:37 |
| jelkner | https://opensourcepolitics.eu/ | 15:38 |
| jelkner | they are a business in France that mainly does Decidim support | 15:38 |
| jelkner | like we are tying to do | 15:38 |
| jelkner | when we met with them online 3 years ago | 15:38 |
| jelkner | they told us they charged $20K for a year of Decidim support | 15:38 |
| jelkner | and that if we found a local customer interested in using it | 15:39 |
| jelkner | we could accompany them through that process to learn it ourselves | 15:39 |
| jelkner | that never happened then | 15:39 |
| jelkner | but it might now | 15:39 |
| jelkner | even if it doesn't | 15:39 |
| jelkner | we need to work hard to learn to use it ourselves | 15:39 |
| jelkner | so, i am proposing to hire two jetro web folks 1/2 time | 15:40 |
| jelkner | 20 hours per week | 15:40 |
| jelkner | to work on Decidim | 15:40 |
| jelkner | at a rate of $5 per hour | 15:40 |
| jelkner | i met with tboimah_ to ask him about this already | 15:40 |
| jelkner | and with Tony, since helping Tony will be his main job | 15:40 |
| jelkner | they both agreed | 15:41 |
| jelkner | so starting with the April transfer, i will be sending $400 per month to hire tboimah_ to do that | 15:41 |
| shmohamud | is there any tangible product we expect from Tboihmah like the DNova Decidim setup or is this just for learning? | 15:41 |
| jelkner | shmohamud, great question! | 15:41 |
| jelkner | tony will be the judge of whether tboimah_ is delivering | 15:41 |
| shmohamud | Ok | 15:42 |
| jelkner | since right now, tony is the only one responsible for maintaining our instances | 15:42 |
| jelkner | making him a single point of failure | 15:42 |
| jelkner | a *bad* situation | 15:42 |
| jelkner | so within the next few months | 15:42 |
| shmohamud | So NovaWebDev has instances of Decidim its maintaining already? | 15:42 |
| jelkner | we will expect that tboimah_ will be able to do what tony is doing | 15:42 |
| jelkner | i am still the only one funding this | 15:43 |
| jelkner | and my resources are limited | 15:43 |
| jelkner | but the time to use them is now! | 15:43 |
| jelkner | since we are on the verge of being a viable business | 15:43 |
| jelkner | we got our first CPA contract | 15:43 |
| jelkner | a *real* contract ;-) | 15:43 |
| jelkner | with a partner who wants to work with us | 15:44 |
| jelkner | freena, i am proposing you be the other 1/2 person | 15:44 |
| jelkner | your task would be to work with Johan and Tony and Kei and Jelkenr | 15:44 |
| jelkner | Jelkner | 15:44 |
| jelkner | to learn to use Decidim internally | 15:44 |
| jelkner | so that Jetro and NOVA Web are using it to manage our tasks | 15:45 |
| freena | +1 | 15:45 |
| jelkner | and projects | 15:45 |
| jelkner | so you have to be ready to step up, my dear friend! | 15:45 |
| jelkner | if you can show real progress | 15:45 |
| jelkner | we can apply for grants and get funding to bring other Jetro members in to the process to | 15:45 |
| jelkner | last comment on this | 15:46 |
| jelkner | svaye, when you can start learning to do bookkeeping and taxes for our business | 15:46 |
| freena | +1 jelkner | 15:46 |
| jelkner | you will be able to bill for htat | 15:46 |
| jelkner | that | 15:46 |
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| jelkner | we have plenty of work | 15:46 |
| jelkner | ved and devesh need help | 15:46 |
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| jelkner | ACTION done | 15:46 |
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| devesh | jelkner: I've just spoken with Shallon. It sounds like she has made some good progress on learning bookkeeping. | 15:47 |
| svaye | I will get started pretty soon jelkner | 15:47 |
| jelkner | awsome devesh | 15:47 |
| jelkner | i'll be waiting for you, devesh, to tell me that svaye can actually do useful work to help you | 15:47 |
| jelkner | and then it will be time to hire her too | 15:47 |
| devesh | +1 | 15:48 |
| jelkner | let's move the meeting tbiomah! | 15:48 |
| tboimah_ | Thanks jelkner, The next on the agenda is why websterss not running on this channel? I think this is for gabriel_jetro and mulbah | 15:48 |
| jelkner | quick, quick | 15:49 |
| tboimah_ | so gabriel, mulbah can you guys give any update on this | 15:49 |
| tboimah_ | gabriel, mulbah we need to move fast | 15:49 |
| gabriel | The code have not been push | 15:50 |
| tboimah_ | why? | 15:50 |
| jelkner | when can you do it gabriel? | 15:50 |
| tboimah_ | What is the hold on | 15:50 |
| jelkner | let's try to have it done by next saturday, ok? | 15:50 |
| tboimah_ | !agenda | 15:50 |
| BigBrother | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 15:50 |
| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 15:50 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 15:50 |
| BigBrother | AOB (added by tboimah) | 15:50 |
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| BigBrother | Why is tboimah not a channel op on this channel? (added by jelkner) | 15:50 |
| BigBrother | Update on the Jetro office (added by jelkner) | 15:50 |
| gabriel | ok | 15:50 |
| tboimah_ | The next on the agenda is why tboimah is not a channel op | 15:51 |
| mulbah | I will host it today I'm planing to change the name of the bot | 15:51 |
| tboimah_ | for that i will take the blame | 15:51 |
| mulbah | I don't know which name will your will love | 15:51 |
| jelkner | tboimah_, just take care of that this week too | 15:51 |
| tboimah_ | I will try to work with gabriel to get that done today | 15:51 |
| jelkner | excellent | 15:51 |
| tboimah_ | !agenda | 15:51 |
| BigBrother | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 15:51 |
| BigBrother | Update on Decidim project (added by tboimah) | 15:51 |
| BigBrother | Jelkner should talk about what he discuss with tboimah this gone 2/27 meeting, about Jetro should try to move from stipend to Billable work! (added by tboimah) | 15:51 |
| BigBrother | AOB (added by tboimah) | 15:51 |
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| BigBrother | Update on the Jetro office (added by jelkner) | 15:51 |
| mulbah | from BigBrother to the name the Team love | 15:51 |
| tboimah_ | next is update on the Jetro office | 15:52 |
| jelkner | ACTION loves it | 15:52 |
| jelkner | tboimah_, you skipped one | 15:52 |
| jelkner | what is AOB | 15:52 |
| tboimah_ | AOB mean any other business | 15:52 |
| jelkner | ah | 15:52 |
| jelkner | ok, mulbah i want to be totally clear | 15:52 |
| jelkner | you are planning on moving to the office when we get it, yes? | 15:53 |
| Stephen | Yes, question. Has a Clean Cooking implementation plan been created yet? | 15:53 |
| mulbah | yeah | 15:53 |
| jelkner | Stephen, i'll handle that next | 15:53 |
| Stephen | ok... | 15:53 |
| Stephen | ` | 15:54 |
| jelkner | mulbah, mr. zawolo wants to do that in April | 15:54 |
| jelkner | so i will ask him to work closely with you on find the place | 15:54 |
| mulbah | which is next month | 15:54 |
| jelkner | yes | 15:54 |
| mulbah | alright | 15:54 |
| jelkner | he doesn't want to wait 6 months | 15:54 |
| jelkner | and he will help with funding it | 15:54 |
| jelkner | so we can do it sooner | 15:54 |
| mulbah | so we should start looking for an office sport again | 15:54 |
| jelkner | talk to mr. zawolo mulbah | 15:55 |
| jelkner | you will be working with him on that | 15:55 |
| jelkner | ok, to Stephen's question | 15:55 |
| jelkner | remember i promised a blog post on agile development? | 15:55 |
| jelkner | well, i actually finished it last weekend | 15:56 |
| jelkner | https://weblog.elkner.net/blog/80/ | 15:56 |
| jelkner | Stephen, we are going to work to learn agile | 15:56 |
| jelkner | and to use UCCA to do that | 15:56 |
| jelkner | so i told Blu and Fatima, "no big design up front!" | 15:56 |
| Stephen | Ok. | 15:56 |
| jelkner | i won't pay for that | 15:57 |
| jelkner | instead, i want customer meetings and user stories | 15:57 |
| jelkner | i gave them the first user story | 15:57 |
| Stephen | I was not expecting a big upfront design effort, but at least a roadmap so that Tanaka knows what's going on from week to week. | 15:57 |
| jelkner | "As a customer of the UCCA website, I want to visit a URL and see a website" | 15:57 |
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| Stephen | Otherwise, he's just waiting for a seemly random question on on Thursdays.. | 15:58 |
| jelkner | getting Tanaka to learn this process is important too | 15:58 |
| jelkner | soon Stephen, he will "get it" | 15:58 |
| jelkner | he will start interacting with a working website | 15:58 |
| jelkner | and his creative mind will start thinking of things he wants it to do | 15:58 |
| jelkner | he will meet with the team | 15:58 |
| Stephen | BTY, the site's certificate seems to be in error, as I get a warning each time I try to visit it that it's a spam site... | 15:59 |
| jelkner | and we will discuss together reasonable deliverables for the next iteration | 15:59 |
| Stephen | Ok. | 15:59 |
| jelkner | and he will see those come to realization | 15:59 |
| jelkner | and we will all develop trust and confindence in our ability to actually move this forward | 15:59 |
| jelkner | that's the agile approach | 15:59 |
| Stephen | Yes, I know Agile... | 16:00 |
| jelkner | blu told me she has a website up | 16:00 |
| jelkner | so we should ask her for a url | 16:00 |
| jelkner | and have another meeting next thursday | 16:00 |
| jelkner | to develop the stories for the next iteration | 16:00 |
| Stephen | Ok, this is the site that has been used in the past. https://www.cleancookingsystem.org.cn/ | 16:00 |
| jelkner | we will want Tanaka to attend | 16:00 |
| Stephen | Ok. | 16:01 |
| jelkner | blu and fatima are working with shmohamud | 16:01 |
| jelkner | to get that going | 16:01 |
| jelkner | they will tell you want the url is | 16:01 |
| jelkner | do you control that domain Stephen? | 16:01 |
| Stephen | Ok. So if they are not using the site I'm paying for, then I can drop it? | 16:01 |
| jelkner | could you point it at the sever they are setting up? | 16:02 |
| jelkner | hetzner? | 16:02 |
| jelkner | i think that's what they are using | 16:02 |
| jelkner | the vm in germany, yes? | 16:02 |
| Stephen | Ok, let me know... I've sent out the login and password several times. Yes, the one in Germany... | 16:02 |
| ledmer | yes jelkner | 16:02 |
| jelkner | awesome ledmer | 16:03 |
| ledmer | Blu already has access | 16:03 |
| jelkner | perfect | 16:03 |
| jelkner | there we go Stephen | 16:03 |
| jelkner | they are moving on it | 16:03 |
| Stephen | Ok. I'll keep paying for the site... | 16:03 |
| jelkner | please | 16:03 |
| jelkner | but the domain is another question | 16:03 |
| Stephen | Np. | 16:03 |
| Stephen | That one is free. It comes with the server. | 16:04 |
| jelkner | if you can point the domain you just listed at the server in germany | 16:04 |
| jelkner | great | 16:04 |
| Stephen | It already is... | 16:04 |
| jelkner | ledmer, we want to make that domain point to your Django instance | 16:04 |
| ledmer | ok | 16:05 |
| jelkner | great | 16:05 |
| ledmer | we are working on setting that up | 16:05 |
| jelkner | let's get that done this thursday if possible | 16:05 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:05 |
| ledmer | probably before that but sure | 16:06 |
| jelkner | tboimah_, we are running over our 30 minutes | 16:06 |
| jelkner | but you have one more thing to do | 16:06 |
| tboimah_ | before we end the meeting let get someone that will chair next Saturday. | 16:06 |
| jelkner | nice! | 16:06 |
| tboimah_ | So who is in for this? | 16:07 |
| jelkner | look y'all, if you want to know why i hired tboimah_ and freena first | 16:07 |
| dcammue | I will take the responsibility to do that | 16:07 |
| jelkner | it's cause they consitantly stepped up | 16:07 |
| jelkner | if you want to be next, here's your chance ;-) | 16:07 |
| jelkner | thanks dcammue | 16:07 |
| jelkner | i should meet with you during the week | 16:08 |
| tboimah_ | Okay, thanks everyone for coming, it is about time we end the meeting so folks can get to work. | 16:08 |
| jelkner | actually we can meet now after this meeting | 16:08 |
| dcammue | +1 | 16:08 |
| jelkner | thank you tboimah_ | 16:08 |
| dcammue | yes | 16:08 |
| tboimah_ | Okay! | 16:08 |
| jelkner | see y'all thursday | 16:08 |
| freena | Thanks tboimah_ | 16:08 |
| shmohamud | Have a good weekend all | 16:09 |
| tboimah_ | You welcome jelkner and freena | 16:09 |
| freena | Same here jelkner | 16:09 |
| jelkner | you too shmohamud | 16:09 |
| freena | Have a nice day shmohamud | 16:09 |
| gabriel | bye all | 16:09 |
| jelkner | bye gabriel | 16:09 |
| svaye | Thanks for chairing the meeting tboimah_ | 16:09 |
| jelkner | mulbah, i'll talk to mr. zawolo on monday | 16:09 |
| svaye | Have a wonderful day jelkner | 16:09 |
| tboimah_ | sure svaye ! | 16:09 |
| jelkner | you too svaye | 16:09 |
| jelkner | dcammue, got a minute? | 16:10 |
| jelkner | dcammue, are you here? | 16:10 |
| dcammue | +1 | 16:10 |
| jelkner | great | 16:10 |
| jelkner | the main role of the chair is to "move the meeting" | 16:10 |
| mulbah | okay Jeff | 16:11 |
| dcammue | I know of that role | 16:11 |
| jelkner | and while it is everyone's task to help plan meeting agendas in a democratic enterprise | 16:11 |
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| freena | See you all | 16:11 |
| jelkner | the chair can play a specially active part in making sure there is a clear agenda | 16:11 |
| jelkner | tboimah_, added items | 16:11 |
| jelkner | so did jelkner | 16:11 |
| jelkner | i didn't see anyone else | 16:11 |
| jelkner | we will know we are making real progress when we see more members posting agenda items | 16:12 |
| jelkner | dcammue, one thing to be careful about this week is the switch to the new bot | 16:12 |
| dcammue | okay | 16:12 |
| jelkner | since the agenda will be erased when that is done | 16:12 |
| jelkner | so you need to coordinate with gabriel and mulbah on when they are doing that | 16:13 |
| dcammue | sure | 16:13 |
| jelkner | and add items to agenda *after* they finish | 16:13 |
| ledmer | this bot | 16:13 |
| ledmer | stores the agenda items | 16:13 |
| jelkner | ok ledmer | 16:13 |
| ledmer | in a text file | 16:13 |
| ledmer | even if you take it down | 16:13 |
| jelkner | sweet! | 16:13 |
| ledmer | you can copy and paste those | 16:13 |
| jelkner | good design | 16:13 |
| jelkner | ledmer, while i have you | 16:14 |
| ledmer | we use json format for the new one tho | 16:14 |
| jelkner | can we add the feature that the person who adds an item has their name appear? | 16:14 |
| jelkner | since that is very helpful to the chair | 16:14 |
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| jelkner | ledmer, can i call you about novawebdevelopment.org ? | 16:15 |
| ledmer | sure | 16:15 |
| jelkner | great | 16:15 |
| jelkner | ok anything else anyone before i sign off? | 16:15 |
| ledmer | mulbah, this is another thing you will have to work on | 16:15 |
| jelkner | do a good job mulbah | 16:16 |
| dcammue | will we meet after this shot meeting | 16:16 |
| jelkner | i check in with ledmer on you ;-) | 16:16 |
| jelkner | i love it when he tells me good things! | 16:16 |
| dcammue | please let me know when you want us meet next week | 16:16 |
| jelkner | dcammue, we just did meet | 16:17 |
| dcammue | okay | 16:17 |
| jelkner | lol | 16:17 |
| jelkner | let's avoid too many meetings | 16:17 |
| jelkner | we should only have them when we need them | 16:17 |
| jelkner | dcammue, show up thursday | 16:17 |
| jelkner | 8 pm your time | 16:17 |
| dcammue | +1 | 16:18 |
| jelkner | ledmer, expect your phone to ring soon... | 16:18 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 16:18 |
| ledmer | ok | 16:18 |
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| Stephen | Bye folks... | 16:18 |
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| svaye | Have a nice day everyone | 16:18 |
| svaye | ACTION signs off | 16:19 |
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| mulbah | ledmer it work I fix it check it out | 16:22 |
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| tboimah | nick thomas | 16:40 |
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| tboimah | Hi ledmer and shmohamud | 19:54 |
| ledmer | hi | 19:54 |
| tboimah | ledmer, can we start now | 20:00 |
| ledmer | sure | 20:01 |
| tboimah | I don't think scooper will join us today | 20:01 |
| ledmer | its fine | 20:01 |
| ledmer | if he is really interested in working in the project | 20:01 |
| ledmer | he can catch up on his own | 20:01 |
| ledmer | I'll help when possible | 20:01 |
| ledmer | ok so you already have set up both libreorganize and the blog? | 20:02 |
| tboimah | sure! | 20:02 |
| tboimah | Are we doing tmate? | 20:02 |
| ledmer | lets do that | 20:03 |
| tboimah | what is the next step after | 20:03 |
| tboimah | ? | 20:03 |
| tboimah | Okay | 20:03 |
| ledmer | start a session | 20:03 |
| tboimah | ssh xeCb5Mq37kCWCSuvX3qVaWJXK@lon1.tmate.io | 20:03 |
| ledmer | ok make a secosol directory | 20:06 |
| ledmer | and place both the-blog and libreorganize there | 20:06 |
| ledmer | delete the one i already accessed to | 20:06 |
| tboimah | Can you please join the tmate again i get disconnected ssh HGMRBA66BZQTfJ9HkNxPwWg3v@lon1.tmate.io | 20:07 |
| tboimah | They are saying the directory secosol already exit | 20:09 |
| ledmer | yeah delete the existing one | 20:09 |
| tboimah | done | 20:11 |
| ledmer | ok | 20:12 |
| ledmer | ok that is not what I meant | 20:13 |
| ledmer | the-blog | 20:13 |
| ledmer | and blog | 20:13 |
| ledmer | are different things | 20:13 |
| tboimah | Okay let me do that | 20:13 |
| ledmer | this one should be inside of the apps directory inside of libreorganize/libreorganize/ | 20:13 |
| tboimah | Do you mean the the-blog or blog? | 20:14 |
| ledmer | i'll do it | 20:14 |
| ledmer | that's what i meant | 20:16 |
| ledmer | So I don't remember if we got the-blog to run | 20:17 |
| ledmer | try running it | 20:17 |
| tboimah | yes we get the to run | 20:17 |
| ledmer | with your ip address | 20:17 |
| ledmer | so i can run it on my machine too | 20:17 |
| ledmer | wait | 20:17 |
| ledmer | you forgot your virtual environment | 20:18 |
| tboimah | thanks I was forgetting about the requirement.txt file | 20:24 |
| ledmer | try again | 20:24 |
| ledmer | sure np | 20:25 |
| tboimah | it is running | 20:25 |
| ledmer | ok | 20:25 |
| ledmer | do you know how to run it so other people can see it? | 20:26 |
| tboimah | maybe if is jitis we could that but tmate no | 20:27 |
| tboimah | *do | 20:27 |
| ledmer | you can do it from your computer and without tmate | 20:27 |
| ledmer | lookup django documentation | 20:27 |
| tboimah | I will be glad to learn that | 20:27 |
| ledmer | manage.py runserver | 20:27 |
| ledmer | perfect | 20:30 |
| ledmer | ok now for me to be able to see it | 20:31 |
| ledmer | i need your IP adress | 20:31 |
| tboimah | We will need to fix something in the setting | 20:31 |
| ledmer | yes that too | 20:31 |
| ledmer | set allowed host to any | 20:31 |
| ledmer | using* | 20:31 |
| ledmer | using "*" | 20:32 |
| tboimah | I am looking for the setting.py file | 20:33 |
| ledmer | I think its inside blog | 20:33 |
| tboimah | I am not seeing it in blog | 20:34 |
| ledmer | try common? | 20:34 |
| ledmer | I'm not sure | 20:34 |
| ledmer | use * | 20:34 |
| tboimah | just a min let me lookup my IP address | 20:35 |
| ledmer | ohh | 20:35 |
| ledmer | you can do that from your terminal too | 20:36 |
| ledmer | 41.57.95.204 | 20:36 |
| ledmer | hahaha | 20:36 |
| tboimah_ | thanks | 20:36 |
| ledmer | i guess this works too | 20:36 |
| ledmer | what's up | 20:40 |
| tboimah_ | I guess it is working now | 20:40 |
| ledmer | ok | 20:40 |
| ledmer | it should be running at http://41.57.95.204:8000/ | 20:41 |
| tboimah_ | NO http://127.0.0.1:8000/ | 20:41 |
| ledmer | that won't do it | 20:41 |
| ledmer | open another tmate session | 20:41 |
| tboimah_ | ssh PzMXYPDG6e7cQ43ZW6VTbn5PL@lon1.tmate.io | 20:42 |
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| ledmer | are you following? | 20:46 |
| tboimah_ | yeah | 20:46 |
| ledmer | so doing that I should be able to see it | 20:51 |
| ledmer | it's taking a while to load | 20:51 |
| ledmer | are you able to connect at http://41.57.95.204:9000/ | 20:51 |
| tboimah_ | it is still loading | 20:52 |
| tboimah_ | Can you please drop you telegram number | 20:52 |
| ledmer | +1 471 490 4695 | 20:52 |
| ledmer | wrong | 20:53 |
| tboimah_ | It seem like my internet will soon expire | 20:53 |
| ledmer | +1 571 490 5695 | 20:53 |
| ledmer | tboimah_, why what's wrong? | 20:53 |
| tboimah_ | Will you be aviable tomorrow this same time | 20:53 |
| ledmer | sure! | 20:54 |
| tboimah_ | But let keep working | 20:54 |
| tboimah_ | I am just let you know in case I drop | 20:54 |
| tboimah_ | *letting | 20:54 |
| ledmer | ok | 20:55 |
| tboimah_ | Sorry for that anyway | 20:55 |
| ledmer | so were you able to see it ? | 20:55 |
| tboimah_ | not yet still loading | 20:55 |
| tboimah_ | what's about you? | 20:55 |
| ledmer | same | 20:56 |
| ledmer | let me try running it from my computer then | 20:57 |
| tboimah_ | Okay | 20:58 |
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| ledmer | File "/home/ledmer/Nova_web/secosol-theblog/the-blog/blog/views.py", line 11, in <module> | 21:01 |
| ledmer | from next_prev import next_in_order, prev_in_order | 21:01 |
| ledmer | ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'next_prev' | 21:01 |
| ledmer | hi im getting this error | 21:01 |
| ledmer | do you remember how we solved it? | 21:01 |
| tboimah_ | do pip install the "module name" | 21:02 |
| tboimah_ | I mean: pip install next_prev | 21:03 |
| ledmer | that would work for other stuff | 21:05 |
| ledmer | oh wait no | 21:05 |
| ledmer | it was a problem with my vm | 21:06 |
| ledmer | since I worked on jeff's blog before and not the main branch | 21:06 |
| ledmer | I had a different version of django installed | 21:06 |
| tboimah_ | or your can also try this since it is an extenal package: pip install django-next-prev | 21:07 |
| ledmer | Fixed it! | 21:09 |
| ledmer | http://172.31.44.95:8000/ | 21:14 |
| ledmer | Try accessing the website | 21:14 |
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| ledmer | tboimah, | 21:16 |
| ledmer | are you still there | 21:18 |
| ledmer | ? | 21:18 |
| ledmer | tboimah, | 21:18 |
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