IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Saturday, 2025-03-22

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Websterss_- Meeting ID: 04office   Time: 032025-03-17 00:00:00   Host: 02klarios10:32
Websterss_- Meeting ID: 04team_meeting   Time: 032025-10-01 10:00:00   Host: 02mulbah10:32
Websterss_- Meeting ID: 04test   Time: 032025-03-20 00:00:00   Host: 02mulbah10:32
thomasboimah!createmeeting SaturdayMeeting10:34
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thomasboimah!add Jetro Web Office space discussion10:39
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thomasboimah!add Where jelkner want to see Jetro Web with in the next six(6) month. So that Jetro Web member can make that part of there goal and start working on it.10:44
Websterss_Agenda item added to meeting 'SaturdayMeeting': Where jelkner want to see Jetro Web with in the next six(6) month. So that Jetro Web member can make that part of there goal and start working on it. (added by thomasboimah)10:44
thomasboimah!add AOB10:45
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Websterss_Agenda for meeting 'SaturdayMeeting':10:45
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svayeGood morning jelkner johan_f 13:02
thomasboimahGood day folks13:04
svayeHow are you thomasboimah 13:04
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gabriel_jetroGreetings, jelkner and everyone..13:05
thomasboimahNot too well svaye , fresh cool and headache13:05
jelknerGood day13:05
svayeSorry to hear that thomasboimah pray you feel better soon 13:06
gabriel_jetrosame here thomasboimah, running stomach13:06
thomasboimahSure! THANKS13:06
gabriel_jetrobut sorry..13:06
thomasboimahOkay gabriel_jetro you too13:06
svayeSorry gabriel_jetro pray you get well soon13:06
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jelknerACTION feels concern for the health and well being of thomasboimah and gabriel_jetro 13:14
gabriel_jetrothanks for the concern jelkner, much appreciate...13:15
gabriel_jetroHow about you too, hope all is well13:15
freenaGreetings jelkner, Ved and shmohamud 13:16
gabriel_jetro*what13:16
VedHello13:16
jkollieHello everyone 13:16
jelknergood day freena 13:16
jelknerand jkollie 13:16
shmohamudGood day all13:16
svayeGreetings everyone 13:17
gabriel_jetroHi svaye13:17
jelknergood day svaye 13:17
gabriel_jetrogreetings shmohamud13:17
mulbahHello Jeff13:17
jelknerHi mulbah 13:17
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klarioshey all, sorry im late. Ill catch up on the logs13:20
Vedjelkner should devesh and or vrishin join?13:20
jelknerVed, if they are available, it would be great to have them13:20
svayeHi klarios 13:21
jelknerJetro is SJC's main project13:21
jelknerGood morning klarios13:21
klarioshi svaye and all13:21
klariosgood morning jelkner 13:21
jelknerGood morning devesh and shmohamud 13:22
shmohamudGood morning Gabriel and Jelkner13:22
deveshGood morning Jeff13:22
gabriel_jetrofine, shmohamud, thank you..13:23
jelkner!agenda13:24
Websterss_Agenda for meeting 'SaturdayMeeting':13:24
jelknerexcellent agenda thomasboimah!13:24
thomasboimahThanks!13:24
jelknerjust what we need to talk about13:24
jelknerand the perfect size for a 30 minute meeting13:24
jelknerwho is chairing?13:25
thomasboimahthomas13:25
jelkneryou feel ok to do it?13:26
thomasboimahyeah13:26
jelknerok13:26
thomasboimahStill waiting for 1:30pm my time13:27
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thomasboimahto start13:27
jelknerstart on time, end on time, respect everyone's time!13:27
thomasboimahHi everyone thank for coming let start the meeting13:30
thomasboimah!agenda13:30
Websterss_Agenda for meeting 'SaturdayMeeting':13:30
thomasboimahokay the first item on the agenda is about jetro office space13:30
thomasboimahjetro member discuss this gone Friday to go and view the two place13:31
thomasboimahtoday after this meeting13:31
thomasboimahand we discuss that we are going to be taking transportation for jetro back account13:32
thomasboimahbut we have not yet discuss the amount13:32
thomasboimahAnd mulbah have agree to go with any of the place that we will agree on today13:33
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jelknernice13:33
thomasboimahSo, the big question here is how much should we take from the account for transportation?13:34
thomasboimahto go and view the place13:34
jelknerwe don't need to discuss that here, thomasboimah 13:34
thomasboimahACTION done13:34
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thomasboimahokay jelkner 13:34
jelknerthat is an internal jetro web business decision13:34
thomasboimahthen we can move to the next agenda13:35
jelknertell me when you want me to come in, thomasboimah 13:35
thomasboimahand that next agenda is for you jelkner 13:35
jelknerlol13:35
jelknerok, let's dive right in13:35
jelknerand i'm happy to say you set the stage for me with the topic of transportation costs13:36
jelkneri have been saying for more than 6 months that our current situation is *not sustainable*13:36
jelknerwhen you share your balance sheet, i believe *all* your income will be coming from SJC wire transfer13:37
jelknerthat means from me13:37
jelkneri can't afford it13:37
jelknerso it is not sustainable13:37
jelknerthat means jetro needs to begin learning how to make some tough decisions13:37
jelknerto do two things at once:13:37
jelkner1. reduce costs for things that are not directly leading to jetro web business development in the near to mid term13:38
jelkner2. begin to find other revenue sources13:38
jelknerone possible revenue source in the near to mid term could be from bookkeeping13:39
jelknerthe solidarity economy non-profits many of us here in Virginia are working with need bookkeeping13:39
jelknerso that is why i have been promoting it13:40
jelknerit is your business13:40
jelknernot for me to decide13:40
jelknerbut soon, we need to phase out this monthly stipend i'm sending for no particular deliverable13:40
jelkneri could stop here, but let me add one more thing13:40
jelkneri spoke with mr. zawolo yesterday13:41
jelknerthe two of us are planning on coming to Liberia in Summer 2026 together13:41
jelknerby then, i want to be working with you on setting up a non-profit and purchasing land for the school13:41
jelknerso in my thinking i'm working backwards in time from that13:42
jelknerby then, Jetro *must* be self-funding13:42
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jelknerACTION done13:42
jelknerthoughts?13:42
thomasboimahNice one jelkner 13:42
thomasboimahThanks13:42
thomasboimahWe jetro web member will work on what you have just said13:43
thomasboimahjelkner, but i want to ask you?13:43
thomasboimahI thought you tell svaye to work with klarios to learn on how to learn panish13:44
gabriel_jetro_Thanks jelkner we appreciate your guidance to our goal, you're like a dad and mentor to us all, we really appreciate how you are leading us. 13:44
thomasboimahspanish13:44
jelkneryes, thomasboimah?13:44
jelknerwhat about it?13:44
jelkneror should i say "Si, thomasboimah, que queire decir sobre eso?" ;-)13:45
thomasboimahand she most also be the one to learn bookkeeping?13:45
gabriel_jetro_Lol 😆13:45
thomasboimahand she most also be the one to learn bookkeeping13:45
jelknerso you saw my email, Ved got mad at me for bringing that up without consulting with him13:46
jelknerfor which i apologized13:46
VedAh not mad jeff13:46
jelknerbut here is why13:46
jelknerSECOSOL is the organization that needs a bookkeeper13:46
jelknerand the mission of SECOSOL is to promote worker coops in the Latina community13:47
gabriel_jetro_We have two business personal, so what about dcammue won't he too jelkner ? 13:47
jelknerwe are talking about women owned businesses with women who speak Spanish13:47
jelknergabriel_jetro_, absolutely13:47
jelknerdcammue and svaye 13:48
klariosI will make all the learning material avaliable to all in decidim. its all about showing up 13:48
jelknerklarios, has agreed to tutor13:48
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jelkneri like what you just said klarios 13:48
jelknerIT'S ALL ABOUT SHOWING UP!13:48
jelknerand that means between meetings as well as during meetings13:49
jelknery'all need to get serious about this if you really want to do it13:49
jelkneri need to hear from Ved, "Wow, they made a lot of progress this week!"13:49
jelkneror this bird won't fly13:49
jelknerso many good things will come from this if we do it right13:50
jelkneras you study bookkeeping, you will begin to apply what you are learning to your own business13:50
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shmohamudI can tutor or be a Spanish practice partner as well - took 6 years of Spanish. I know Jeff is also fluent so maybe we can start a group email thread or practice after meetings for a bit.13:50
jelknerand them the two things i am saying we need to do will start to come naturally to you13:50
jelkneri'm not fluent shmohamud 13:51
jelknerso i'13:51
jelkneri'll leave that to klarios 13:51
jelknerbut i will start using it with folks when they are ready13:51
shmohamudOh O.O in that case that's a high bar, I will leave it to Klarios too.13:51
klariosid say youre definitely there jelkner 13:51
jelknerklarios, shmohamud and i can back you up to provide practice13:52
jelknerbut you should lead13:52
jelknerso folks learn to do things right13:52
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jelkneranyway, that's a mid term goal13:52
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klariosthank you jelkner, no worries about that. youre already overextended and ive got more time13:52
jelknershort term goal is bookkeeping13:52
jelknerthat needs to come first13:52
jelknersince even without spanish, klarios could provide help communicating with a bookkeeper who knows how to keep books!13:53
jelknerso let's aim for that 1st13:53
klariosjelkner: im wondering if the progress on book keeping is being added to the open book project?13:53
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jelknerklarios, that's my goal13:53
klariosthat'd be crucial13:54
jelknerbut i need to understand it well enough to begin working on the book 1st13:54
jelkneri'll be responsible for that13:54
jelknerwriting books is one of my favorite things to do! ;-)13:54
gabriel_jetro_jelkner: is there any word for me and mulbah ? 13:55
jelknerok, almost time thomasboimah 13:55
jelknerlet's not go over chair13:55
thomasboimahOkay thank klarios and shmohamud for agreeing to tutor svaye , now we can move to the next agenda AOB, which means Any Other Business13:55
thomasboimahIf there is nothing else to discuss we can end the meeting13:55
jelknernothing from me13:55
freena-1 for me13:56
jelknerwill freena chair next week?13:56
thomasboimahThanks everyone for coming, it was Great to see you all13:56
freena+1 jelkner 13:56
jelknergreat meeting!13:56
jelknerthanks all13:56
thomasboimah!help13:56
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jelknerklarios, anthony_p, shmohamud, we are meeting with matt in 30 minutes, right?13:57
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klariosI thought it was at 10? jelkner 13:57
jelknerno, 10:30 13:57
klariosalright sounds good13:57
svayeThanks for chairing the meeting thomasboimah 13:58
thomasboimahsure! svaye 13:58
klariossvaye: can you stay behind for a bit13:58
klariossorry I forgot to bring it up13:58
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klarioswhat time did we agree on tuesday?13:58
jelknerthomasboimah, freena, svaye, gabriel_jetro_, jkollie, can i make one suggestion?13:58
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jelknerand then i'll drop off klarios 13:58
klariosbye jelkner see you in 30 mins13:59
jelkneri suggest you make a clear plan to move from stipend to fee for service within the next 2 months13:59
svayeWe didn't agree on a specific time but it was between 12pm and 3pm my time klarios 13:59
klariosgot it. let me see when in my time that can work14:00
jelknerthat means that accept for the two staffers we start with, thomasboimah and freena 14:00
gabriel_jetro_What do you want me be good at in the next two months to provide services, jelkner ? 14:00
jelknereveryone else needs to learn to invoice for completed, delivered work14:00
jelknergreat question gabriel_jetro_ 14:00
klariosWe will do 3 pm your time and 11 am my time14:00
jelkneri think that is more of a question for anthony_p 14:00
jelknersince you and thomasboimah are part of the dev team14:01
jelknerand he leads that14:01
jelknerso i'll talk to him about that14:01
jelknerand we will follow up with you14:01
svayeWill it be for one hour klarios 14:01
klarioswe will strive for one hour or 45 minutes 14:01
freenaAlright jelkner 14:01
jelknerok, all, i'm going to sign off so i can take a coffee break between meetings14:01
klariossince it is the first day, it may be longer 14:01
jelknersee y'all next thursday14:02
freenaHave a great day everyone 14:02
gabriel_jetro_Okay jelkner I'll be on the lookout for your response 14:02
jelknerit won't be long gabriel_jetro_ 14:02
thomasboimahsee you too jelkner 14:02
svayeHave a wonderful day jelkner 14:02
jelknersee you14:02
jelkneryou too!14:02
klariosif that is a constraint we can change the time to 2 pm for you?14:02
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klariosdoes that work better svaye ?14:02
gabriel_jetro_Okay 🥰14:02
svaye2pm is perfect 14:02
gabriel_jetro_Bye everyone 👋14:02
svayeHave a nice day gabriel_jetro_ 14:03
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klariosgreat! I will see you 10 am my time and 3 pm your time. I really recommend anyone who wants to learn spanish to come for the first day to learn the rubrics and pathways to learning the language14:03
shmohamudHave a good one everyone14:03
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klariosall material required will be free so you dont have to buy books or anything14:04
svayeWe will meet on deciding right klarios ?14:04
svaye*decidim*14:04
klarioswe will meet here on IRC on the jetro web channel 14:04
klarioswe will add our progress on decidim 14:04
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klariosgreat! thank you all for coming today as well.14:05
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