IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Tuesday, 2025-03-25

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scoopergood morning mulbah, svaye and Ved 10:33
mulbahGood morning scooper10:34
svayeGood morning scooper 10:34
svayeHow are you doing10:34
scooperI m fine svaye 10:35
svayeHow's your sister doing?10:35
scooperWhen is the meeting starting svaye??10:36
scoopershe is trying gradually....10:36
svaye11:00am10:36
scooperok10:37
scooperACTION coming back by 11:00am10:37
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freenaGood morning johan_f 10:37
svayeGood morning freena 10:38
freenaHow are you svaye??10:39
svayeI am okay10:39
svayehow are you freena 10:39
freenaI'm good 10:40
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thomasboimahGood morning folks10:42
freenaGood morning thomasboimah 10:42
gabriel_jetro_Greetings everyone 10:44
freenaMorning gabriel_jetro_ 10:45
jkollieGreetings thomasboimah and gabriel_jetro_ 10:45
gabriel_jetro_How're you freena and jkollie 10:46
svayeGood morning thomasboimah and gabriel_jetro_ how are you guys feeling now10:46
daniel__ Good morning folks 10:46
gabriel_jetro_!agenda10:46
Websterss_No active meeting. Use !activatemeeting <ID> to set a meeting as active.10:46
gabriel_jetro_Good morning daniel__ 10:47
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jelknerGood morning Jetro websters!10:56
gabriel_jetro_Good morning jelkner 10:56
freenaGood morning jelkner 10:56
gabriel_jetro_How's your night 10:56
jkollieGood morning jelkner 10:56
jelknerCan't complain, and yours gabriel_jetro_?10:56
jelknerGood morning jkollie 10:56
gabriel_jetro_Same 10:57
jelknerok, i only have a few minutes10:58
jelkneri see that gabriel_jetro_ and mulbah are both here, that's great10:58
mulbahyeah10:59
jelknersince my proposal is specifically for the two of you10:59
mulbahHow are you doing jeff10:59
jelknerlet's dive in, mulbah 10:59
scooperGood morning once again everyone10:59
jelknerok, i mentioned that April will be the last month anyone can get a stipend without a "deliverable"10:59
jelknerso we need to work on what those deliverables are11:00
jelknerand how to create an accountability system that keeps us moving forward as well as we can11:00
jelknerso, mulbah, you in part inspired the solution i am proposing11:00
jelknerwhen you told mr. zawolo you wanted more guidance11:01
jelknerwell, my friend, you're about to get it! ;-)11:01
jelkneri am teaching a class called Data Structures and Analysis of Algorithms11:01
jelknerhttps://courses.vccs.edu/courses/CSC223-DataStructuresandAnalysisofAlgorithms11:02
jelknerWe have been using C++11:02
jelknerBut given NOVA Web's need for Decidim developers11:02
jelknerI realized i could switch to Ruby for the rest of this year11:02
jelknerso, mulbah and gabriel_jetro_ 11:02
jelkneryou will be paired with NOVA Web folks who are students in my class11:03
jelknerand work with them as we learn Ruby together11:03
jelknerthat means that if you want your stipend you will have to:11:03
jelkner1. Show up on irc to class each day11:03
mulbahokay11:03
jelkner2. Do the assignments along with your partner11:03
mulbahby which time11:03
gabriel_jetro_Wait mulbah he's not done yet 11:04
jelknergabriel_jetro_?11:04
jelkneri don't understand11:04
jelknernot done what?11:04
gabriel_jetro_I'm trying to say you ain't finished detailing what you want us to do 🥰11:05
jelknersvaye, you and daniel *really* need to step up!11:05
jelknerwhat do you want to know gabriel_jetro_?11:05
jelkneri told you, 2 things:11:05
jelkner1. show up in class11:05
jelkner2. do the classword11:05
gabriel_jetro_Is that that all? 11:06
jelkners/classword/classwork11:06
jelknerwhat more do you want, my friend?! ;-)11:06
jelknerthat will be enough11:06
jelknerit will take a significant amount of time11:06
jelknerclass meets for 90 minutes 2 or 3 times a week11:06
jkollieDid you see the mail I sent jelkner ?11:06
gabriel_jetro_Ohk I'm exited for it has always been my dream to be a data scientists. Smile 11:07
jelknerand then there is homework for 90 minutes between each class11:07
jelknergreat, gabriel_jetro_ 11:07
jelknerwe're heading in that direction11:07
jelkneryes, jkollie 11:07
jelkneri read your emai11:07
jkollieOkay 11:07
jelkneryou will be working with anupama11:07
jelknerask blu about that11:08
jelkneri have too much on my plate11:08
jelknerwe need to collaborate11:08
jkollieOkay I understand 11:08
jelknermulbah, like i said, you will be working with luis11:08
jelknerwe can talk about pairings, but this is my 1st idea11:09
jelknergabriel_jetro_, we need to pair you with either johan or ved11:09
jelknerand thomas with the other one11:09
mulbahwhen we will be starting11:09
jelknertoday!11:09
jelkner;-)11:09
scooperjelkner, 11:10
jelkneri need to get back to work preparing lessons11:10
mulbahoh okay that great 11:10
scooperis there any task for scooper??11:10
jelknerhttps://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc223/goals/week08.html11:10
jelknerGood question scooper 11:10
jelknerGreat to see you!11:10
jelkneryou've been MIA for so long, i didn't even think about it.11:10
jelknerMIA (means "missing in action")11:11
scoopergot you11:11
scooperhad some serious challenges along the way... that why11:11
jelkneri suggest you take some time to catch up with what has been going on11:11
jelkneri heard scooper 11:11
jelknersorry to hear about that11:12
jelkneri'm having challenges of a different sort, scooper 11:12
jelkneri am sending you all more money than i can afford to continue11:12
jelknerso we have been talking about how to make it so that we can move faster toward jetro becoming self-financing11:13
jelknerwe need to do that ASAP (as soon as possible) if we want this to continue11:13
scooperbeen following all the hex chat conversation...11:13
jelknerthe quickest business opportunity is bookkeeping11:13
jelknerwe have folks ready to pay for bookkeeping support now11:14
jelknerplus, Jetro itself needs to get its finances done11:14
jelknerso a lot will be riding on shallon and daniel11:14
jelknerif they work hard, we could have them working for hire sooner than anyone else11:14
jelknerthe Decidim project is a more long term investment11:15
jelknerTony is saying it will take us 2 year to be ready11:15
jelkneri'm hoping we can do it in 1/2 that time11:15
jelknerbut we'll see11:15
jelknerok, i have to get ready for class11:15
freenaHave a great day jelkner 11:15
freenaSee you Thursday 11:16
jelknermulbah and gabriel_jetro_, you need to stay on irc for the next several hours11:16
gabriel_jetro_Okay 11:16
jelknerfreena, did you see my email?11:16
gabriel_jetro_Which channel, jelkner ? 11:16
jelknerthis one, gabriel_jetro_ 11:16
freena-1 11:16
jelknerfreena, this is a great learning opportunity for you11:16
svayeHow long will you guys be here jelkner 11:17
jelkneri'm talking about the apartment hunting email i sent11:17
freenaOn yeah 11:17
jelkner*Very important*11:17
jelknerfreena, this is an example of the famous "Secretary Problem" 11:18
freenaI saw that mail jelkner 11:18
jelknerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_problem11:18
jelknerIt is also referred to as an "optimal stopping problem"11:18
jelknerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimal_stopping11:19
jelknerlet's use this Jetro office search as a chance to learn about this theory11:19
jelknerit will make us more effective in business11:19
jelknerso freena, you and i should talk more about this on Thursday11:19
jelknerso i am clear you "get it"11:20
jelknerok, i have to go11:20
freenaAlright jelkner 11:20
jelknerclass starts in 40 minutes11:20
jelknerand i'm not ready!11:20
freenaSee you on Thursday than 11:20
jelknersee you thursday freena 11:20
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scooperGood day everyone11:21
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freenaGood day scooper 11:21
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gabriel_jetro_Greetings Ved and johan_f how's your end? 12:03
johan_fhello gabriel_jetro_ on our end class is still starting. Soon we'll have a short presentation12:05
gabriel_jetro_Okay 12:06
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VedIs thomas here?12:46
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johan_fgabriel_jetro_ we're pairs and ved is paired with thomasboimah12:48
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johan_fhttps://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc223/goals/week08.html12:53
johan_fin that url is the assignment we need to do under homework12:54
gabriel_jetro_Due today? 12:54
johan_fits for next class12:54
johan_fthe next class for us would be Thursday, March 27 8:00 am EST12:55
VedSomeone tell thomas to join12:55
jelknermulbah, gabriel_jetro_ i just updated our class page.12:56
jelknerhttps://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc223/goals/week08.html12:56
gabriel_jetro_Okay johan_f, what's the best means of communication with you? 12:56
johan_fthis is what jeff wants us to use to learn https://www.theodinproject.com/paths/foundations/courses/foundations12:56
jelknerit lists the learning groups that johan_f and ved just gave me12:56
gabriel_jetro_Yes jelkner, I saw it. 12:56
jelknerthomas isn't here now, but he will be working with ved i hear12:57
VedYes12:57
VedHe quit 20-25 minutes ago12:57
johan_fgabriel_jetro_ Through IRC I think would be best for us to communicate12:59
jelknerlol12:59
gabriel_jetro_Can you set a day and time? 12:59
jelknergabriel_jetro_, i was just telling johan_f, if you want to get paid, i need to see what you are doing in the irc logs! ;-)13:00
jelknerso if you use any other channels, that's fine, but it won't count for me.13:00
gabriel_jetro_Okay 13:00
johan_fwhen are you available tomorrow? I meet freena and others about decidim from 3:00-3:30 EST13:00
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gabriel_jetro_What about 12am my time? 13:01
johan_fi think that could work but are you sure that's pretty late right?13:04
gabriel_jetro_Yeah it's but it's the time my surroundings can me quite and I can be able to study and meditate. 13:07
johan_falright then13:08
johan_fso the assignment specifically is: Use the two resources provided above to give yourself a crash course in Ruby. The, working with your partner, begin to implement a Card class in Ruby.13:08
johan_fjeff wants us to use these two resources: https://github.com/ThibaultJanBeyer/cheatsheets/blob/master/Ruby-Cheatsheet.md, https://www.theodinproject.com/13:09
johan_fACTION and the cards objects are detailed here (in c++): https://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/cpp/ch12.html, https://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/cpp/ch13.html, https://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/cpp/ch14.html, https://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/cpp/ch15.html13:11
gabriel_jetro_Okay 13:12
gabriel_jetro_So we'll meet this Thursday or tomorrow my time 12am?13:13
johan_fwe're meeting technically every day13:14
johan_ftomorrow we'll meet at 12 am your time13:14
johan_fthen on Thursday we'll meet again from 8:00-9:30 am EST13:15
gabriel_jetro_Okay that's great. 13:15
johan_fthe reason for that is because class generally happens every two days (if we want to be specific Jeff's class occurs on A days and class alternates between A & B days)13:17
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gabriel_jetro_Okay 13:20
ledmermulbah, were you able to install it13:23
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Vedthomas, you're late now13:23
Vedwhat's your whatsapp13:23
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thomasboimahGreeting again folks13:24
mulbahyes "ruby 3.2.3 (2024-01-18 revision 52bb2ac0a6) [x86_64-linux-gnu]"13:26
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thomasboimahVed, I don't use whatsapp i use telegram instead13:27
thomasboimahThis is my telegram numaber: +23188898189713:27
thomasboimahACTION going to read the past log13:27
mulbahand "rbenv 1.3.2"13:28
thomasboimahVed, are you here so that we can start on our task?13:31
thomasboimahHi ledmer_ Do you know if Ved is still here or what?13:37
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thomasboimahVed, Are you still here? I have don't setting up my Ruby development environment 13:47
thomasboimahjelkner, 13:47
svayeGood morning klarios 13:59
klarioshello svaye !13:59
klariosgood morning13:59
thomasboimahHI klarios do you know if Ved still here? or are you around him13:59
klariosI saw that you had a meeting earlier in the morning 13:59
klariosI can message him, do you need to pass on a message?14:00
thomasboimahYeah, we need to start working on the our task that jelkner 14:00
thomasboimahgive14:00
thomasboimahcan you please tell him to join the hexchat?14:01
jelknerthomasboimah, he won't be able to14:01
thomasboimahThen how are we going to work together?14:01
jelknerhe had class from 12 noon to 13:24 UTC today14:02
jelknerthen he had to leave14:02
klariosI can pass on a message. Perhaps you can email him to meet another time14:02
jelknerthis class is at a different building, so he needs to take a bus back to his "home school"14:02
jelknerhe will have class again on Thursday, same times14:02
jelkneryou should email him14:03
klariosI have a lesson to complete with svaye and gabriel_jetro_ / anyone signed up for spanish learning 14:03
klariosshould we go to the NWD channel?14:03
thomasboimahOkay so when did the task you give Due14:03
jelknerin the mean time, make yourself an account on The Odin Project website14:03
thomasboimah?14:03
jelkner?14:03
klariosI dont want to interrupt the meetings here14:03
jelknerno klarios 14:03
jelknerwe need to learn to have multiple simultaneous conversations in this channel14:04
jelknerit's how irc works14:04
thomasboimahAnd how are we going to be presenting the assignment?14:04
jelkneryou get used to it14:04
jelknerved will present, thomasboimah 14:04
klariostrue, I am just worried about organization14:04
jelkneryou just need to work with him14:04
thomasboimahBut it is pair work jelkner 14:04
jelknerok, i'm outta hear14:04
jelkneryes thomasboimah 14:05
klariosgabriel_jetro_: im wondering if you have a decidim account?14:05
thomasboimahHow i am going to contrabute14:05
jelkneryou develop it together, and ved presents it to my class14:05
jelknerwe need to keep this simple!14:05
jelknerplease don't try to complicate things14:05
thomasboimahOaky sir14:05
thomasboimah*okay sir14:05
jelknerok, i'm logging off so the spanish class can run ;-)14:05
jelknerACTION logs off so klarios can do her thing!14:06
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klarios+1 ill talk to you later je14:06
klariosalright14:06
klariosgabriel_jetro_: are you connected?14:06
klariostheres a bunch of users that may not be connected, just making sure14:06
klariosokay he may not be14:07
klarioswho is connected to the channel right now14:07
klarios?14:07
svaye+114:07
klariosokay let me reload my pagge14:08
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klariosnevermind it still shows all the users14:08
klariosits okay 14:08
klarioslets continue with out lesson14:08
klariossvaye: you are set up with a decidim account right?14:09
svaye+114:09
svayebut I don't have a nextcloud account14:09
klariosno wiorries we can fix that14:10
klariosyou should have gotten an email on your personal email 14:10
klariosjust now14:10
klariosabout becoming a decidim admin14:11
klariosthis email: vayeshallon@gmail.com14:11
klariosnow for nextcloud, this is the following information14:13
klariosusername: Shallon.Vaye14:13
klariospassword: TQx9CFcB4f9E14:13
klariosI recommend you change it soon, doesnt have to be now but in the future14:13
klariosthe password14:14
klarioshttps://share.mayfirst.org/14:14
svayeI didn't get an email14:14
klarioscheck your spam mail14:14
klariosthe link i sent is the nextcloud log in. Use the information I gave you to log in 14:15
klariosdid you get the email?14:16
svayeI didn't get the mail14:16
klarioshmm that is weird. It says you are a confirmed admin14:17
klariostry logging into decidim 14:17
klarioshttps://decidim.novawebdevelopment.org/14:17
freenaGood morning klarios 14:17
klariosgood moring freena!14:18
svayeI logged in already klarios 14:18
klariosreload and see if the admin panel pops up14:18
klariosit should be on the top left side of the screen14:18
klariossvaye do you see it?14:20
svayeyes it14:20
svayeIt's there14:20
klariosalright good 14:20
klariosno need to check your email for it then 14:20
klariosnext step14:20
klariostry to log into nextcloud14:20
klariosthe link and login was provided above14:21
svayeI am logged in already14:21
klariosgreat!14:21
klariosalright, since you are in the admin panel in decidim, go to the top right corner and press see assembly 14:22
klariossorry before that you have to click on assemblies14:22
klariosclick on the "Assembly For Spanish Learners "14:23
klariosand then on the top right click see assembly14:23
klariosthat will take you to this course14:23
svayedone14:24
klariosgreat!14:24
klariosfreena: are you following with us?14:24
freena+1 klarios 14:24
klariosgreat!14:25
klarioslets learn spanish!14:25
freenaSure 14:25
klariosalright so the first thing you will click is the "tuesday learning sessions"14:25
svaye+114:25
klariosthat is the page where all the scheduled meetings and agendas will be organized14:25
klariosif you clic into todays meeting 14:26
klariosyou can see some of the scheduled items14:26
klariosare you able to see this information?14:26
klariossvaye: freena ?14:27
svayeThe Agenda items?14:27
freena+114:27
klariosyes, https://decidim.novawebdevelopment.org/assemblies/LearnSpanish/f/93/meetings/5114:27
svayeyeah I see it14:28
klariosgreat!14:28
klariosthe first Item I wanted to bring up was the time commitment to this class14:28
klariosThis class will be structured the same way that a college language class it14:28
klariosis14:28
klariosmeaning that there will be a required time commitment every week to come to classes every tuesday at 10 am my time14:29
klariosand a commitment to turn in homework every week14:29
klariossvaye: I wanted to check in with you specifically about this 14:29
klariosved told me that you may be overextended with all you are doing right now. The book keeping lessons and ultimately the language learning lessons14:30
klariosits important for you to gauge the time commitment you want to put into both classes14:31
klariosthey are both truly important and we are both putting the effort to be mentors14:31
klarioswe dont want the contents to be too much for you therefore class items cannot be completed14:32
klarioswhat is your opinion on the time commitment you are willing to give both classes?14:32
klariossvaye: 14:32
svayeI will be committed to both classes klarios 14:33
klariosthat is great to hear! please also communicate if you need time and space to complete items with the other class or with anything in your life14:34
klariosthank you for your commitment14:34
klariosnow freena I know you were technically not 14:34
klarios"planned" as a student14:34
klariosbut I am happy if you were to become14:34
klarioswould you be willing and interested to make the commitment?14:34
freena+1 14:35
klariosI calculate that it will be around a 5 hour weekly commitment 14:35
klariosamazing!14:35
klarioswell lets get started then 14:35
klarioson the 3/25/25 meeting, if you scroll down you will be able to see the agenda item. The next agenda Item is downloading course electronic books14:36
klariosall of the electronic books provided here will be free14:36
klariosup from the agenda Items there is link called "Items needed for class" Click on that and press visit link14:37
freenaAlright, I have already downloaded the books 14:37
klariosgreat freena!14:37
klariosafter you visit the link there should be a folder with the books, download them to your computer14:38
svayeI am downloading them now14:39
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klariosgreat! let me know when they are don14:39
klariosdone*14:39
klariosthere is another book that should have been uploaded but it didnt14:40
klariosI will upload it after class14:40
svayeIt's done14:41
klariosgreat!14:41
klariosyou will also notice that there are two syllabus14:42
klariosthat is because this course will be spread in 1 yera14:42
klariosyear14:42
klariossyllabus 1 will be for the first 6 months14:42
klariosand syllabus 2 will be for the next 6 months after taht14:42
klariosthat*14:42
klariosboth of those syllabus are university level material14:43
freenaAlright 14:43
klariosmeaning that this course will run a bit faster than high school14:43
svayeokay14:43
klariosand if were to test in a universtiy you may get credit depending on your score14:43
klariosuniversity*14:43
klariosNo download both syllabuses but label them the way I have them labeled14:44
klariosit is also a good idea to make a folder in your computer completely decicated for spanish class14:44
klariosthe homework is on the textbook provided to you called "easy spanish step by step" and the other book called "Exploraciones" that I havent uploaded yet14:45
klariosnextcloud has an option to let you fill in the blank for answers that need writing14:46
klariosbut since there are two of you, I will upload another book and name it "freena's book"14:46
klariosyou will access your homework on the nextcloud book editor 14:47
freenaOkay 14:47
klariosbut you will read the chapters from your local downloaded version14:47
klariosdoes that make sense?14:47
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klariosyou will want to raed the chapters from your downloaded file because it will be at your own pace and others wont be inside the file while you read14:48
klariosdoes that make sense svaye ?14:48
svaye+114:48
klariosgreat!14:49
klariossince we only have 10 minutes left. My homework for you is to read the syllabus for spanish 114:50
klariosand see all the assigments you will complete14:50
klariosI want you to take notes of the quizzes and practices14:51
freena+114:52
klariosif you go to the beginning of the assembly(https://decidim.novawebdevelopment.org/assemblies/LearnSpanish) you will see the following things:14:52
klariosHomework turn-in 14:52
klariosRead the syllabus (Ignore for now, its only the syllabus copied and pasted in) 14:53
klariosand Chapter 1 (That is the homework for next class, not due this week)14:53
klariosif you click on the homework turn-in14:53
klariosand you click on the admin panel 14:53
klariosor admin dashboard14:53
klariosand you go to spanish learning assembly14:54
klarioson components, click on the homework turn-in component14:54
klarioshomeworks will be turned in by clicking results14:55
klariosyou will add the name of the homework14:55
klariosyour name14:55
klariosthe completed homework will be added on description 14:55
klariosand you will add your status as 100% if your homework is completed14:56
klarioswhen you are done adding your homework, you will click created result14:56
klarios*create14:56
klariosdoes this all make sense?14:57
klariossvaye: freena ?14:57
freena+114:57
svaye+114:57
klariosI know its a lot to do but it will allow me to see your progress and stay organized14:57
klariosplease feel free to ask any questions in the future14:57
freenaOkay klarios 14:57
klariosalright. So for next week I expect to see a new result where you list the quizzes and practice that are mentioned on the syllabus for spanish 114:58
klariosyes freena ?14:58
freena+114:58
svayeEverything klarios ?14:58
klariosonly the quiz and practice descriptions 14:59
klariosfor example 14:59
klariosquiz #1 on the road to learning spanish15:00
klariosquiz #2 say what15:00
svayeAlright15:00
klariosquiz #3 Things you'd find in a calendar15:00
klariosalso, vocabulary will be like a quiz15:01
klariosim not sure how I will do it just yet15:01
klariosbut its important to kknow that you will be tested on vocab15:01
klariosalright the time is up15:01
klariosthank you both for coming to my class15:01
klariosI hope you enjoyed it!15:01
freenaOkay, thank you too klarios 15:02
svayeThank you klarios 15:02
klariosno worries! have a great rest of your day!15:02
freenaIt's great having you as our mentor/teacher 15:02
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svayeHave a wonderful day freena 15:04
freenaYou too svaye 15:04
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VedHello thomasboimah, I just got back to my other school16:21
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