IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Thursday, 2025-04-10

freenaGood morning mulbah and thomasboimah 10:30
thomasboimahGood morning freena and mulbah 10:30
mulbahGood morning guys10:30
mulbahHow things going10:42
freenaNot bad ooo10:43
jelknerGood morning thomasboimah freena and mulbah!10:50
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner 10:50
freenaGood morning jelkner 10:50
jelkneri just wanted to check-in before i leave for Los Angeles later today.10:51
mulbahGood morning Jeff10:51
jelknermulbah, ledmer told me yesterday you are still working with him on learning ruby10:51
jelkneri included your name on the lesson plan for tomorrow10:51
jelknerhttps://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc223/goals/weeks9n10.html10:52
mulbahyes10:52
jelknergreat10:52
jelknerjust wanted to confirm10:52
jelknerfreena, i spoke with mr. zawolo already this morning10:52
jelkner(he got here early than i did - a first! ;-)10:52
freenaOh10:53
jelknerhe agreed that since he is the only one on the SJC board with real knowledge on how things work in Liberia10:53
jelknerthat he would work with you as you look for the Jetro Office10:53
jelknerplease be in regular contact with him10:54
freenaOkay 10:54
jelknerit is only by learning to effectively use our skills and shared knowledge that we will succeed10:54
jelknerso when i left him i told him i had a scheduled meeting with you this morning10:55
jelknerand that i would mention to you that we spoke10:55
jelkneryou know how to reach him, yes?10:55
freena+1 jelkner 10:55
jelknerawesome10:55
freenaI will reach out to him today 10:56
jelknerthomasboimah, how are things going with the Decidim development team?10:56
thomasboimahThing are going pretty fine, and shun I and Tony was in touch through mail10:56
thomasboimahshun said that after our meeting this coming thursday10:57
thomasboimahwe should plan a date to start meeting and work together10:57
jelknerSahnun10:57
thomasboimahas a team10:58
thomasboimah+1 Sahnun, through mail10:58
jelknergreat10:58
jelknerthomasboimah, this is a huge opportunity for you10:58
jelkneryou are now working with 3 professional developers who have years of experience10:58
jelknerSahnun even did professional work on a Rails project before10:59
jelknerso this will be a real opportunity for you to grow10:59
jelknerwe are really fortunate to have them11:00
thomasboimahYeah, jelkner I am also setting up my own Deccidim on my local machine, so i am getting more farmiler with things11:00
jelknergreat!11:00
jelknerthat's what you need to do11:00
jelknersince the Linux kernel has kvm built in11:00
jelknerit is very easy to spin up a VM to try out new things11:01
jelkneri do it all the time11:01
jelknerthey are easy to set up, and if you break things11:01
thomasboimahSo that way even when Sahnun or Tony is busy I can still be learning11:01
jelkneryou can just delete them and make a new one without harming the host machine11:01
thomasboimahSure!11:01
jelkneryes, thomasboimah 11:02
jelkneryou can't wait11:02
jelknerjust think about it11:02
jelknerhow does Tony learn?11:02
jelknerhe reads online11:02
jelknerhe trys things11:02
jelknerthere is no one in our organization he can "wait for" to be told what to do11:03
thomasboimahjelkner, 11:03
jelknerif you want to be a successful technologist, you need to learn the same11:03
thomasboimahWhat's up with this mail: Kevin and others at NOVA Web Dev - 11:03
thomasboimahIt's been a while since we spoke, but I wanted to follow up on a11:03
thomasboimahconversation we had a while back about Decidim.  The city of Richmond11:03
thomasboimahis starting a participatory budgeting process in the coming year. We11:03
thomasboimahwill need to create an online space for collecting community ideas,11:03
thomasboimahdrafting proposals, and then voting. I'd love to use Decidim. 11:03
jelkneryes thomasboimah?11:03
thomasboimahI'm curious about the cost of designing and setting something up an11:03
thomasboimahinstance for a city wide process?11:03
thomasboimahIs there any I will need to know about it11:03
thomasboimah*anything11:03
jelknerglad you're asking thomasboimah 11:04
jelkneri just found that old email while migrating my .org emails to our .coop hosting on May First11:04
jelknerall you might want to know now is a bit of the history11:04
jelknerso you can make sense of things going forward11:05
jelknerin 2022, i was no longer an active part of NOVA Web Development11:05
jelknerthat was the year i first visited liberia11:05
jelknerStefan, Adrian, Louie, and Natalia were running the coop11:06
jelknerthey managed to keep it going for 2 years11:06
jelknerbut they were never able to make a successful enough business out of it11:06
jelknerso they all left11:06
jelknerand i came back in with a new group of students to start things over again11:06
jelknerso i didn't see that email when Matt Slaats first sent it11:07
jelknerMatt works for the City of Richmond11:07
jelknerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond,_Virginia11:07
jelknerRichmond is the capital of the state of Virginia, where i live11:08
jelknerit is about a 90 minute ride by car from here11:08
jelknerMatt is also a key person in the organization VASEN, https://vasolidarity.org/11:09
jelknerhe will be joining Kei, Tony, Johan, and me at the DNOVA Summit on April 26 and 2711:09
jelknerhttps://nextsystem.gmu.edu/projects/dnova/summit11:10
jelknerWe will be talking about participatory budgeting and Decidim at the summit11:10
jelknerso, you will be hearing a lot more about all this in the future11:10
thomasboimahOkay11:11
jelknerin the mean time, we need to learn to use Decidim as soon as we can11:11
thomasboimahYou should please update me After the meeting on April 26 and 2711:11
jelknerit is *SO* important that freena and svaye and dcammue work together to learn to do Jetro budgeting with Decidim11:11
jelknerit would give us a way to learn how it works and develop a real concrete sense of how it might be useful to people11:12
jelknerthomasboimah, of course you will be updated11:12
jelknerthe more your picture of our business plan develops11:12
jelknerthe more you will understand all the information coming at you and how it fits together11:13
jelknerit's *a lot* of new information for you, so it will take time11:13
thomasboimahokay11:13
jelknergreat11:13
jelknerfreena, how are svaye and dcammue doing?11:14
jelkneri am counting on you to keep an eye on them so when i meet with you you can update me11:14
jelknerthey are the two Jetro folks who could potentially most quickly generate regular revenue for Jetro11:14
jelkneri can continue to support you and thomasboimah through SJC11:15
jelknerbut they could get paid by SECOSOL11:15
jelkner*IF* they can learn to provide bookkeeping services to our co-ops and non-profits11:15
jelknerso please continue to monitor their progress11:16
jelknerACTION done11:16
jelkneranything y'all have for me?11:16
jelknerthomasboimah, freena, mulbah?11:17
jelkneri need to go11:17
thomasboimah-1 for me11:18
mulbahOkay Jeff11:18
jelknerfreena?11:18
jelknerhmmm... freena must be distracted11:18
jelknerok, thomasboimah and mulbah, have a great week11:18
thomasboimahOkay jelkner you too11:18
jelkneri'll be online some times11:19
thomasboimahSave travel11:19
mulbahAlright Jeff11:19
jelknerbut since i'll be 3 hours later and visiting my son11:19
jelkneri'm not sure when11:19
jelknerso i don't want to make plans11:19
jelkneri'm having breakfast with Sahnun on Easter morning11:20
jelknerso i'll be back in Virginia then11:20
jelknerthe Summit is the following weekend11:20
jelknerso we'll have a lot to do!11:20
jelknerACTION signs off11:20
thomasboimahSave travel jelkner 11:20
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thomasboimahGreeting folks19:58
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gabriel_jetroGreetings everyone 20:11
gabriel_jetroWon't there be meeting today? 20:14
gabriel_jetroIt's gone more than 15min20:14
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dcammueGreeting everyone20:15
gabriel_jetroHi dcammue 20:17
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