IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Wednesday, 2025-04-23

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thomasboimahGreeting folks10:41
gabriel_jetroGreetings thomasboimah 10:45
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klarioshi all! 10:51
thomasboimahHI klarios 10:52
klariosjelkner isnt here yet 10:52
klarioshi thomasboimah !10:53
jkollieHi klarios10:53
klarioshi jkollie !10:54
klarioshow are you all doing?10:54
jelknerGood morning Jetro!10:55
jkollieI'm fine and you klarios10:55
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner 10:55
klariosgood morning jelkner 10:55
jelknerYou all rock!10:56
fkoikoi Good Morning Jelkner10:56
jelknerLooks like all hands are on deck ;-)10:56
thomasboimahSure!10:56
jelknerCan we start a few minutes early?10:56
jelknerI only have about 15 minutes10:56
fkoikoisure10:56
jelknersince i have to finish lessons for my morning class10:56
fkoikoiwe can even start now10:56
jelknerok, thanks for coming10:56
klariosbetter for me jelkner I only have around 15-20 minutes10:56
jelkneri called you here to talk about an opportunity for the dev team to do some billable work if you are ready10:57
jelknerso mainly this is for gabriel_jetro, mulbah, and thomasboimah 10:57
jelknerunless anyone else knows Django that i am not aware of10:58
jelknerbtw., klarios is more and more taking over directing the business at NOVA Web10:58
jelknerso i'm glad she is here10:58
jelknera group of us from my school are heading to Pycon in May10:58
jelknermid may10:58
klarios+1 10:58
jelknermy colleague, Chris Jones, is teaching a Django class this Spring10:59
dcammueGood morning jelkner 10:59
jelknerWe are working on two customer projects for our cosmetology and culinary teachers11:00
jelknerhold on, let me give you the github links11:00
dcammueHi klarios 11:00
klarioshi dcammue11:00
jelknerhttps://github.com/orgs/ACCDjangoGirls/projects?query=is%3Aopen11:00
jelknerChris is working on teaching his students a proper professional workflow11:01
jelknercomplete with user stories, etc.11:01
jelknerso i talked to chris yesterday11:01
jelknerchris is on the board of SJC now11:01
jelknerso he is interested in helping us with our process11:01
jelknerif one of you could "take an issue" from the user board11:02
jelknerand finish it11:02
jelkneryou could bill at $5 an hour for your time11:02
jelkneronce chris approves your work, that is11:02
jelknerthis could be a great way for us to move toward professional work flow for Jetro in a friendly and supportive way11:03
jelknerwhat do you think?11:03
gabriel_jetro+111:03
jelkneri am very interested in paying you!11:03
thomasboimahThis is great!11:04
jelknersince if i pay you under these conditions, it means we have real skills!11:04
jelknerand after this, klarios and i can begin looking for other customers11:04
jelknersince we'll know what you can do11:04
jelknerquestions?11:04
klariosI think this would be a good opportunity for jetro web developers. IM looking at the initial wireflow diagram and it looks like something manageable 11:05
jelknerit is, klarios 11:05
gabriel_jetroWill resources be provided for work flow?11:05
klariosits all about the comfort level of jetro dev members and django 11:05
jelknerchris's class is working on it11:05
jelkneryes11:05
jelknerthat's what we want to determine11:05
jelknerASAP11:05
jelknerthomasboimah, you are on salary, so you can't bill at this point (I can't afford that)11:06
jelknerbut i'm counting on you to help gabriel_jetro and mulbah to begin hacking on these projects11:06
jelknercan you do that?11:06
jelknerthey can then bill for the work11:06
thomasboimahNO problem11:07
jelknerfkoikoi, you are python certified too11:07
thomasboimahI am happy to work and learn not all about the money11:07
thomasboimahsure!11:07
jelknerso if you want to join them, feel free11:07
fkoikoi+111:07
jelknerunderstood thomasboimah, that's why we put you on salary! ;-)11:07
klarios+1 this is good news. We can all see the changes as well11:07
klariosits transparent11:08
gabriel_jetroSure11:08
jelkneryes it is11:08
jelknerok, i told chris we would meet and discuss11:08
thomasboimahjelkner, talking about user stories where is it?11:08
fkoikoijelkner, I am not familiar with django11:08
gabriel_jetroWe'll work together, fkoikoi 11:08
jelknerfkoikoi, you and klarios should figure out your plan11:08
klariosI dont think chris uses agile for his class right?11:08
jelknerif you want to grow your development skills11:08
jelkneryou can here11:09
fkoikoiokay11:09
klariostrue jelkner, I have a couple of programming classes in my degree but learning django isnt there 11:09
jelknereven if your main focus will be project management, you'll need to understand development to some degree11:09
jelknerlike me11:09
jelkneri'm not a skilled dev11:09
klariosI still want to learn11:09
jelknerbut i know what the devs do11:09
jelknerklarios, same thing for you11:10
fkoikoiwell understood jelkner11:10
jelknerthis is a great opportunity to learn11:10
gabriel_jetroI'm excited 11:10
jelknerme too gabriel_jetro!11:10
jelknerwe are really moving forward11:10
klarios+1 that's right I told mulbah and gabriel_jetro that id be learning along side then 11:10
klariosthem*11:10
mulbahWe will make you proud 11:10
jelknerok, i'll talk to chris when he gets here in about 1/2 hour11:10
jelkneri know you will mulbah 11:11
klariosgood. We should have a meeting with him11:11
jelknerACTION smiles hearing mulbah say that ;-)11:11
gabriel_jetroOkay and let us know when we'll be starting soon.11:11
jelkneryou can start now11:11
jelknerwe'll figure out the communication workflow11:11
jelknerbut you'll be communicating directly with chris11:11
jelknerhe is guiding the whole process11:12
gabriel_jetroOkay 11:12
klariosthis will all be added to decidim as well 11:12
jelknerdefinitely klarios!11:12
jelknereverything we do should11:12
thomasboimah jelkner can you please drop chris email address11:12
jelknercmj2310@email.vccs.edu11:13
thomasboimahNick one! thanks11:13
thomasboimah*nice one! 11:13
jelknerok, i have to get ready for class, and so does klarios 11:13
jelknerthis was great11:13
fkoikoispeaking of decidim, klarios, most members of jetro's already edited their results11:13
jelknerlet's talk again tomorrow at the same time?11:13
svayeHi klarios 11:13
gabriel_jetroOkay have a wonderful day11:13
dcammuejelkner, 11:13
fkoikoi+1 jelkner11:14
jelknerdcammue, 11:14
klariosyes I saw fkoikoi !11:14
klariosI was excited to see11:14
dcammuewhat is about the bookkeepers11:14
dcammue?11:14
klariosjust make sure those results are in by tomorrow11:14
svayeI posted the assignment link in decidim already, you can check it when you have time klarios 11:14
jelknerdcammue, we need you to be ready to start doing our books11:14
dcammueAre not getting contract now?11:14
klariosgreat! thank you svaye !11:14
thomasboimahjelkner, what's about jkollie and spencer?11:14
jelknerwe have NOVA Web, SECOSOL, and SJC11:14
gabriel_jetroCheck klarios I did my update few minutes ago. By adding new results.11:15
jelknerwhen you can do the books for us, and file our documents with Virginia and the IRC11:15
jelkneryou can bill for your time11:15
jelknerwe need you now11:15
dcammueif so I am will to start doing such practice11:15
svayeMy result will soon be in klarios 11:15
jelknerjust tell us when you are ready11:15
klariosthank you gabriel_jetro ! I saw but I think you forgot to put your name on it lol11:15
jelknerok, i have to go11:15
thomasboimahjelkner, what's about jkollie and spencer?11:15
klariosthank you svaye ! this is all looking amazing11:16
gabriel_jetroklarios: 11:16
thomasboimahI am not hear anything about them11:16
dcammueklarios, please check my result11:16
jelknerthomasboimah, Jetro needs to figure out how to inclucde billable for everyone who wants it11:16
jelkneri don't think we can figure this out all at once11:16
jelknerwe are committed to looking out for each other11:17
thomasboimahSo my question here is what can they do?11:17
thomasboimahto be able to get pay11:17
jelknerand to helping each other find a livelihood.11:17
klariosI saw it just now great! I will be adding comments and evolutions to your results, thank you all for submitting!11:17
jelknerthomasboimah, you tell me?11:17
jelknerthis sounds like a discussion to have with fkoikoi and klarios 11:17
jelknerit is business planning11:17
thomasboimahjkollie, is been learning inkspace11:17
thomasboimahfor the past time now11:18
jelkneryes, thomasboimah, but you have be real about it11:18
jelknerchris was telling me yesterday we need designers11:18
klariosthat's right.  Shes been updating about her progress as well. its time to test her skills with real work 11:18
jelknerbut we need *good* ones11:18
thomasboimahsure! klarios 11:18
jelknercan she make a beautiful image? can she design a beautiful web site?11:18
jelknerif she can, we will lots of work for her11:18
jelknerbut if she can't11:19
jelknershe may need to find something else11:19
jelknerwe will see11:19
thomasboimahjelkner, I am sure for the past time she can11:19
klariosits time to test that out11:19
klariosjelkner: 11:19
thomasboimahjkollie, I'm i right11:19
thomasboimah?11:19
jelknerthomasboimah, if you are correct, we will have lots of work for her11:19
fkoikoishe can make beautiful images jelkner 11:19
jelknerNOVA Web had a pro11:19
jelknerNatalia11:19
jelknershe did great work11:19
jelknerbut she isn't available any more11:19
jkollie+1 thomasboimah11:19
jelknerso we need to find our own designers11:20
thomasboimahshe here jelkner 11:20
jelknerbtw. thomasboimah and jkollie 11:20
thomasboimahShe been active but there is nothing for her to do11:20
fkoikoiJkollie can do designs jelkner 11:20
jelknercheck out https://designaction.org/11:20
jelknerthey are a worker coop that does design11:21
jelknerjkollie, look at what they do11:21
jelknerand aim toward being able to do stuff like that11:21
jkollieokay11:21
fkoikoiif you want, you can give her a task or test work so you can see her skills now11:21
fkoikoijelkner11:21
jelknerfkoikoi, i have to go11:21
jelknerreally11:21
jelknerlet's talk tomorrow11:22
jelknercya then...11:22
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svayeHave a nice day jelkner 11:22
thomasboimahACTION sign off11:22
fkoikoiklarios11:22
klarioswaht's up fkoikoi 11:23
klariosIve got to head out in a bit 11:23
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fkoikoidid you view the blog post i created??11:23
fkoikoiklarios??11:23
klariosoooh no i havent yet 11:24
klarioswhere did you post it?11:24
jkollieKlarios11:25
klariosyes jkollie ?11:25
jkollieyou said you had a little recommendation to make11:25
klariosI did? 11:26
fkoikoiI  posted it in Finding Office space process11:26
klariosI see freena, ill take a look at it and comment. In encourage everyone to comment as well!11:26
jkollieokay11:26
klariosI will look back jkollie 11:26
klariosI mightve missed spelled11:26
jkollieno problem11:27
klariosI dont seem to find it. What did i say jkollie ? sorry I have a bad memory lol11:27
jkollieyou said you had a little recommendation to make in your comment on the  result I created11:28
jkollieyou might waaaant to check it 11:29
jkollie*want*11:29
klariosahh It probably wasnt for you or maybe it was 11:29
klariosonce i see your result I will comment11:29
klariosNo worries, its my duty to give you feedback on your results11:30
jkolliesure11:30
klarioswe are trying to shape them to be AGILE costumer results 11:30
klariosso I will comment on everyone's and give them feedback11:30
klariossound good?11:30
jkollie+111:31
frennaklarios, 11:31
klariosyes frenna ?11:31
frennayou said that you were working on so bank statement from Secosol11:31
klariosyep! thank you for reminding me. I am getting the statement after our President upload the receipts of purchase for our trip in north carolina11:32
klariosdcammue: No worries I will get that statement this week if our president gets those receipts to us11:33
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dcammue_sorry it is I dcammue11:33
klarioshaha no worries its ok 11:33
dcammue_it was an error11:34
klariosI will message you personally when our staff member sends me that statement11:34
klariosthat's alright dcammue_ 11:34
dcammue_so if you do get the bank statement, please share with me11:34
klariosI will no worries11:34
klariosand you will get it11:34
klariosalright I've got to head out now11:35
dcammue_Thanks klarios 11:35
klariosthank you all for coming! and I am excited to comment on your results11:35
dcammue_Take care11:35
klariosbyeee all!11:35
klariosthank you!11:35
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