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| jelkner | Good morning mulbah and thomas! | 10:50 |
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| mulbah | Good morning Jeff | 10:50 |
| thomas | Good morning jelkner | 10:51 |
| jelkner | thomas, great questions in your email. | 10:51 |
| jelkner | That's what i wanted to discuss here this morning. | 10:51 |
| thomas | okay | 10:51 |
| jelkner | i can't say i have the plan all worked out | 10:51 |
| jelkner | but i'm trying to think what will work best | 10:51 |
| jelkner | seems to me we should have the following requirements: | 10:52 |
| jelkner | 1. We should back up all the email *in some way*, so that it is possible to access if we ever need to. | 10:52 |
| jelkner | 2. We should then figure out which email addresses with .org domains we want to handle. | 10:53 |
| jelkner | 3. We should forward them to some .coop address | 10:53 |
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| jelkner | 4. We should do all this with as little time and resources as is really necessary | 10:54 |
| jelkner | i think that's it | 10:54 |
| jelkner | there are some email addresses we may really need to handle, like admin@novawebdevelopment.org | 10:54 |
| mulbah | so we are not migrating the mail | 10:54 |
| jelkner | and perhaps contact@novawebdevelopment.org | 10:54 |
| jelkner | mulbah, i don't think we need to | 10:55 |
| jelkner | i was able to migrate all my old mail just using my desktop client, evolution | 10:55 |
| jelkner | so i have all my old mail | 10:55 |
| jelkner | the other people with old mail are mostly former members, not current ones | 10:56 |
| mulbah | okay because I already setup the script to do it using ~/imapsync | 10:56 |
| jelkner | they aren't with us any more, and we *don't want* to create current email accounts for them. | 10:56 |
| jelkner | we just want a way to access their old mail should we ever need to | 10:56 |
| mulbah | okay | 10:56 |
| jelkner | if a still current customer references communication they had with the former members, for example | 10:57 |
| jelkner | that is probably not likely to happen | 10:57 |
| mulbah | so to summarize the task we need to backup the mail and do the mail forwarding | 10:57 |
| jelkner | so we don't need to make is super easy to access the old mail, just possible | 10:57 |
| jelkner | if it means using grep through a directory of text files, that would be fine, for example | 10:57 |
| jelkner | since we are inexperienced, we want to develop a plan, and then show that plan to someone with experience | 10:58 |
| jelkner | this thursday will be the last time for awhile that mattva01 comes to our meeting, since he will be busy moving, then we have pycon, then the end of the school year | 10:59 |
| jelkner | so we want to have a plan ready by thursday | 10:59 |
| jelkner | can you do that? | 10:59 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 10:59 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 10:59 |
| jelkner | super | 10:59 |
| mulbah | +1 | 10:59 |
| jelkner | this is a great experience for you | 10:59 |
| jelkner | and you are doing a really good job | 11:00 |
| jelkner | that is *very* encouraging! | 11:00 |
| mulbah | Jeff | 11:00 |
| jelkner | mulbah, | 11:00 |
| mulbah | backup the old main where should we save it ?? | 11:00 |
| jelkner | great question | 11:01 |
| mulbah | should we save it on the server | 11:01 |
| jelkner | NO! | 11:01 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:01 |
| mulbah | okay | 11:01 |
| jelkner | remember, we are trying to take down the server | 11:01 |
| jelkner | let's discuss that with klarios | 11:01 |
| jelkner | and tony | 11:01 |
| mulbah | okay | 11:01 |
| mulbah | so after the discussion we choose a place to save it | 11:02 |
| mulbah | *will* | 11:02 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:02 |
| jelkner | that is an infrastructure question of NOVA Web | 11:02 |
| jelkner | and a crucial one | 11:02 |
| thomasboimah | of course | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking we want to put it on our May First storage somewhere | 11:03 |
| jelkner | but we need to talk with Kei and Tony | 11:03 |
| mulbah | so we can just complete the mail forwarding today then after the discussion we will backup it | 11:03 |
| jelkner | great suggestion, mulbah | 11:03 |
| jelkner | but you need a plan before you do implement the forwarding | 11:04 |
| jelkner | since you need to first extract all .org email addresses currently handled by our mail server | 11:04 |
| jelkner | then share the list with us (me, Kei, Tony) | 11:04 |
| mulbah | we are thinking about way of doing it | 11:04 |
| jelkner | we will need to decide which ones we will forward | 11:04 |
| jelkner | and which ones we will retire | 11:05 |
| jelkner | we want to use this opportunity to purge the list | 11:05 |
| jelkner | so we only want to forward addresses that we really need to forward | 11:05 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, can you meet wirh kei and tony today to decide on this? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | can we meet tomorrow at this same time? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, you may have to email them | 11:06 |
| jelkner | i don't know their schedules | 11:06 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 11:06 |
| jelkner | so asynchronous communication may be needed | 11:06 |
| jelkner | can we meet here again at this time tomorrow? | 11:06 |
| mulbah | so which addresses that your really need to forward | 11:07 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 11:07 |
| thomasboimah | Anytime for you jelkner | 11:07 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:07 |
| mulbah | okay | 11:07 |
| jelkner | mulbah, you need to process what i just wrote before you ask me that question ;-) | 11:07 |
| jelkner | what am i asking for 1st, my friend? | 11:07 |
| jelkner | i'm asking for the list of current addresses being handled by the server | 11:08 |
| jelkner | mulbah, you getting this? | 11:08 |
| jelkner | i don't know which addresses are on that list | 11:08 |
| jelkner | so i can't tell you which ones i want to forward | 11:08 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 11:08 |
| mulbah | sure | 11:09 |
| jelkner | awesome | 11:09 |
| jelkner | so if you can get me the list by tomorrow | 11:09 |
| jelkner | maybe i can tell you then | 11:09 |
| mulbah | so should I give you the list of email address | 11:09 |
| mulbah | on the .org | 11:09 |
| jelkner | YES!!!!!!!!!! | 11:09 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:09 |
| mulbah | give me a mins | 11:10 |
| jelkner | do you have that now? | 11:10 |
| gabriel_jetro | jelkner: he's asking because we don't wanna make a mistake we want to be sure on what we're doing | 11:10 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro, yes, that's great | 11:10 |
| jelkner | but keep in mind i am being careful too | 11:11 |
| jelkner | i'm only asking for investigation now | 11:11 |
| jelkner | not action | 11:11 |
| gabriel_jetro | Sure | 11:11 |
| jelkner | we plan our work before we work our plan | 11:11 |
| jelkner | so there is no danger of error yet | 11:11 |
| jelkner | since we are just gathering information and making a plan | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i won't make any dangerous decisions without consulting with mattva01 | 11:12 |
| jelkner | since he's a pro | 11:12 |
| jelkner | and i'm not | 11:12 |
| jelkner | anything else before i leave for the day? | 11:13 |
| jelkner | also, what is going on with the jetro website changes i requested? | 11:13 |
| thomasboimah | WE will do that today | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i have lots of pictures of Spencer from my first trip to Liberia in my blog posts | 11:15 |
| jelkner | https://weblog.elkner.net/blog/53/ | 11:15 |
| mulbah | jelkner should I send it here | 11:15 |
| jelkner | https://weblog.elkner.net/blog/57/ | 11:15 |
| jelkner | https://weblog.elkner.net/blog/63/ | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and the Supe | 11:16 |
| jelkner | https://weblog.elkner.net/blog/55/ | 11:16 |
| jelkner | Good memories! | 11:16 |
| jelkner | mulbah, email me the list | 11:16 |
| jelkner | please | 11:16 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, I really fell bad when i saw that from spencer about resigning | 11:16 |
| thomasboimah | 11:17 | |
| jelkner | hopefully it is just for now, thomasboimah | 11:17 |
| thomasboimah | We have come a long way | 11:17 |
| thomasboimah | for that | 11:17 |
| jelkner | yes we have! | 11:17 |
| jelkner | you have worked hard | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and it really shows | 11:17 |
| jelkner | it has been an incredible joy to work with you all, thomasboimah, i really want to thank you for that! | 11:18 |
| jelkner | and we're only just beginning! | 11:18 |
| thomasboimah | Thank you too jelkner for all the support | 11:18 |
| jelkner | we have a lot more joys (and struggles) ahead of us | 11:19 |
| thomasboimah | If it was not for you we will not be this far | 11:19 |
| jelkner | i'm glad i could be of some use | 11:19 |
| jelkner | ok, until tomorrow... | 11:19 |
| jelkner | mulbah, get me that list | 11:19 |
| jelkner | thanks everyone! | 11:19 |
| mulbah | I will so send it | 11:19 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay have a great day | 11:19 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until tomorrow at 11 UTC (you too gabriel_jetro) | 11:20 |
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| klarios | hi svaye ! | 14:02 |
| klarios | are you on this channel or nova web? | 14:03 |
| svaye | Good morning klarios | 14:03 |
| klarios | good morning, lets stay on this channel then | 14:03 |
| klarios | how are you svaye? | 14:04 |
| svaye | Alright | 14:04 |
| svaye | I am good How are you klarios | 14:04 |
| klarios | I am doing well. It seems i might start to get sick soon though | 14:04 |
| klarios | the weather here is not so great | 14:05 |
| svaye | I am sorry to hear that, please take care of yourself | 14:06 |
| klarios | thank you! Will do. I am relying on tea and medicine to fight it off | 14:07 |
| klarios | alright lets get started | 14:07 |
| klarios | today we will be learning about adjectives mostly | 14:08 |
| klarios | if you take a look at the modules in the spanish learning assembly you will see "week 2! ..." | 14:08 |
| klarios | click on that | 14:08 |
| klarios | once you do you will see the reading and homeworks for this week | 14:10 |
| klarios | to start off we will be focusing on page 11-12 | 14:11 |
| klarios | since we cant watch the video on page 11 lets just give you the transcript | 14:12 |
| klarios | "Este es el salón de clases. Hay muchos estudiantes en la clase. Hay una pizarra. No hay carteles, pero hay un mapa. Hay muchas sillas. También hay un escritorio, hay lápices y bolígrafos en el escritorio... ¡no hay una computadora! ¡¿Donde está la computadora?! Necesito hablar con el director" | 14:12 |
| klarios | svaye: what do you think "Hay" means here? | 14:13 |
| svaye | There | 14:13 |
| klarios | yes and close | 14:14 |
| klarios | "There is" | 14:14 |
| klarios | no hay= There is no | 14:14 |
| klarios | Muchas = Adjective for "a lot" or "many" chairs | 14:15 |
| klarios | makes sense? | 14:15 |
| svaye | Yeah | 14:15 |
| svaye | What does muchos mean | 14:16 |
| klarios | its the masculine of muchas | 14:16 |
| klarios | it means the same thing | 14:16 |
| klarios | only applied to a masculine object | 14:16 |
| klarios | "a lot" or "many" depending on the context. | 14:17 |
| klarios | for example: Hoy (today) hace (there is) Mucho (A lot) frio (cold) | 14:18 |
| svaye | So have and hay means the same thing? | 14:19 |
| svaye | *hace | 14:19 |
| klarios | hace is another "There is" adj. for there is | 14:19 |
| klarios | its used for present tense | 14:19 |
| klarios | its generally used when you are referring to events | 14:20 |
| klarios | for example: "Hoy hay frio" is gramatically correct but it doesnt encompass how it affects you | 14:21 |
| klarios | they can be interchangeable | 14:22 |
| klarios | but thats a little advanced for you to learn right now | 14:22 |
| klarios | lets move on | 14:22 |
| svaye | Alright | 14:23 |
| klarios | Read through the " A comprobar " (to prove) section and let me know when you are done | 14:23 |
| svaye | I am done | 14:26 |
| klarios | great! what was your biggest takeaway from that reading? | 14:26 |
| klarios | did you learn something new? | 14:27 |
| svaye | The difference between the definite and indefinite article | 14:29 |
| klarios | that's right we had only learned about definite articles but now indefinite articles exist too | 14:30 |
| klarios | like they mentioned, its used when referring to an undefined noun (or a thing) | 14:31 |
| klarios | like ya no hay sillas | 14:31 |
| klarios | ect ect | 14:31 |
| klarios | etc* | 14:31 |
| klarios | any questions about that reading? | 14:31 |
| klarios | lets move on to the first exercise then | 14:31 |
| svaye | No question | 14:32 |
| klarios | good good | 14:32 |
| klarios | so exercise 1.11 | 14:32 |
| klarios | you have to decide whether the statements they give you are logical or not | 14:33 |
| klarios | I would recommend opening your result in decidim and pasting this exercise so that you can work alon | 14:33 |
| klarios | along* | 14:33 |
| svaye | You told me to maintain on result right klarios? | 14:34 |
| klarios | noo that was only for week 1 | 14:35 |
| klarios | you will make new results for new weeks | 14:35 |
| klarios | this is week 2 | 14:35 |
| svaye | Alright | 14:35 |
| klarios | lets go until 10:40-10:45 with this exercise | 14:36 |
| klarios | I will paste maybe 2 statements and we will go through it | 14:36 |
| klarios | Logic or Not Logic: "Hay una pizarra en la silla." | 14:37 |
| klarios | What do you think svaye ? | 14:37 |
| svaye | Not logic | 14:38 |
| klarios | yep! | 14:39 |
| klarios | there is no way there is a Pizarra (Board) on a chair | 14:39 |
| klarios | they got the indefinite article right but not the meaning | 14:39 |
| svaye | Because it's saying there is a blackboard in the chair which is not possible | 14:39 |
| svaye | Exactly | 14:40 |
| klarios | what about: No hay una puerta en la clase. | 14:40 |
| klarios | yep you got it svaye ! | 14:40 |
| svaye | Logic | 14:41 |
| svaye | It's possible that the class doesn't have a door | 14:41 |
| klarios | hehe that one was tricky. like you said its possible that it doesnt have a door | 14:42 |
| klarios | but it doesnt make sense why there wouldnt be a door | 14:42 |
| klarios | therefore its illogical | 14:43 |
| klarios | or not logic | 14:43 |
| svaye | Understood | 14:43 |
| klarios | great! lets move on to the next exercise | 14:43 |
| klarios | 1.12 | 14:43 |
| klarios | this one is a lot like 1.26 | 14:44 |
| klarios | we can go through it together right? | 14:44 |
| klarios | no were out of time oops | 14:44 |
| klarios | svaye: do you feel confident you can do it on your own? | 14:44 |
| svaye | Yeah | 14:45 |
| klarios | I will give you the first examples still: "David es un estudiante (student) en UNA escuela en los estados unidos. | 14:45 |
| klarios | that's just hte first line but I am confident you can do the rest | 14:46 |
| klarios | svaye: can you do the second line? | 14:46 |
| klarios | En su salón de clases hay (2. unos / los ) carteles y (3. una / la ) ventana | 14:46 |
| svaye | En su salón de clases hay unos carteles y una ventana | 14:48 |
| klarios | great! | 14:48 |
| klarios | lets move on to the next exercise then | 14:48 |
| klarios | 1.9 | 14:49 |
| klarios | sorry 1.19 | 14:49 |
| klarios | oooh never mind | 14:50 |
| klarios | that's for the next lesson | 14:50 |
| svaye | Alright | 14:50 |
| klarios | your assignment for today is page 18 | 14:50 |
| klarios | which are adjectives or adjectivos | 14:51 |
| klarios | words used to describer nouns | 14:51 |
| klarios | I recommend you write those adjectives down on a card and try to memorize them. The front of a card can be spanish and the back english + the meaning | 14:52 |
| klarios | there's going to be a quiz on them soon | 14:53 |
| svaye | Alright | 14:53 |
| klarios | if you see the first column where "Bueno" starts | 14:54 |
| klarios | they also give you antonyms | 14:54 |
| klarios | words that are the opposite meaning of the innitial word | 14:54 |
| klarios | The antonym of bueno is Malo or Bad | 14:54 |
| klarios | the synonym of bueno (good) can be sincero (sincere) | 14:55 |
| klarios | I would also take the time to look up each word in the first column (you dont have to do it for the other columns because they give you a translation) | 14:56 |
| klarios | The homework for this section will be for you to make flash cards or write these adjetivos down along with their english translation | 14:58 |
| klarios | plus the meaning of the adjetivos from the first column and their translation into english | 14:59 |
| svaye | Alright | 14:59 |
| klarios | you dont have to research the antonyms of the first column by the way | 14:59 |
| svaye | Should I send you a picture? | 14:59 |
| klarios | like malo or egoista. If you want to you can | 15:00 |
| klarios | yes you can send me a picture and I will send you a nextcloud link so that you can put it into the decidim result | 15:00 |
| klarios | you can always do flashcards online too | 15:00 |
| svaye | Alright | 15:01 |
| klarios | anki application is really good for making flashcards | 15:01 |
| klarios | as well as quizlet | 15:01 |
| klarios | but writing down is always great to o | 15:02 |
| klarios | well we are out of time! thank you for coming today! | 15:02 |
| klarios | if you have any questions please message me on telegram | 15:02 |
| klarios | did everything make sense today? | 15:02 |
| svaye | Yes | 15:03 |
| klarios | great! thats good | 15:03 |
| klarios | alright then I will see you on friday! | 15:03 |
| svaye | Thanks for the time klarios | 15:03 |
| klarios | have a great rest of your day svaye! | 15:03 |
| klarios | of course | 15:03 |
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