IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Wednesday, 2025-05-21

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daniel__Good morning Mulbah 10:40
thomasboimahHello folks10:43
mulbahHow is everyone doing 10:45
daniel__Fine and you?10:46
jelknerGood morning Jetro Websters!10:53
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner 10:53
jelknerI won't be able to be too involved with the details of your planning with Anand10:54
jkolliegood morning jelkner10:54
jelknerbut I highly recommend you coordinate with Kei to make sure we don't waste his time with us.10:54
svayeGood morning jelkner 10:54
mulbahgood morning jeff10:55
gabriel_jetroSure, I went through the log from your conversation yesterday 10:55
jelknerThis is a good opportunity for you to practice what will be a regular occurrence.10:55
jelknerGreat, gabriel_jetro 10:55
jelknerso I am asking you to think about what is going on10:55
jelknerSo in the years ahead you can get better and better at helping manage it10:56
jelknerAs teachers in Arlington Public Schools, Chris Jones and I will have the opportunity to work with a lot of *very* skilled young folks10:56
jelknerI've come to realize that there is no viable business model for NOVA Web Development that would keep them with us for long periods of time10:57
jelknerBut they will come through, as PRIME Interns, Capstone Interns, and Senior Experience Interns10:57
jelknerIn my dream of the future, you Jetro Websters will become more and more skilled10:58
jelkneryou will have clear tech goals for your co-op10:58
jelknerand you will learn how to utilize these talented (and free ;-) young folks to do exploratory work for you10:58
jelknerthe best way they can be utilized is to have them investigate some new tech you are interested in exploring10:59
jelknerthat's how we got started with Decidim10:59
jelknerI spent a whole Summer with 5 PRIME interns and asked all of them to look into it10:59
jelknerThen last Summer we did the same thing10:59
jelknerso Anand already has some experience10:59
jelknerwhere is Freena?11:00
jelknerthomasboimah, Freena is working most closely with Kei on Decidim, yes?11:00
thomasboimah+111:00
jelknersvaye, you are too, since you are using it for your Spanish class11:00
svaye+111:00
jelknerthomasboimah, tell your co-op sister Freena she needs to show to these meetings11:01
jelknershe is staff, it is an obligation for her if she wants to remain staff!11:01
thomasboimahOkay Jef11:01
thomasboimah*Jeff11:01
jelknerwe can't plan if you aren't here11:01
jelknerthat's really all i have for now11:01
thomasboimahIs there any work for jetro?11:02
jelknerover the next year, we will be continuing to skill up and working towards generating revenue11:02
jelknerthomasboimah, let's discuss that Thursday11:02
thomasboimahOKay11:02
jelknerhere is what I have in mind11:02
daniel__Good morning Mr. Elkner 11:02
jelknerWe worked on two Django apps which we presented at Pycon11:02
jelknerThere's freena 11:02
jelknerGreat to see you!11:03
jelknerThey are the cosmetology and the culinary apps11:03
jelkneri would love to see if you could finish them up11:03
jelknerto make them really work and look nice11:03
mulbahokay we will try our best11:03
jelknerthose would be great projects because they are low rish and high potential reward11:04
freenaGood morning jelkner 11:04
jelknerLet me talk to Chris today and see what he says11:04
gabriel_jetroCjones asked me to do some debugging on my code and he said he merged it to main 11:04
jelknersince he is really the project manager11:04
jelknerwith Summer coming for us in just a few weeks11:04
jelknerthe only potential down side is that we will run out of time11:05
jelknerour customers will be off for the Summer and we may have to resume next September11:05
jelknerBut maybe we can get in a few iterations before the year runs out.11:06
jelknerotherwise, we have many projects waiting, but you are not ready for them yet11:06
jelkneranother idea, but i don't know how feasible it is11:07
jelkneris to begin working on our new website for Grace Hopper Center11:07
jelknerChris and I will be the customers for that11:07
jelknerand even though i'll be travelling11:07
jelkneri could work with you on it over the Summer11:07
jelknerjust at thought11:08
jelknerwe should discuss it11:08
jelknerThat would be a "from the ground up" project11:08
mulbahsure11:08
thomasboimahThat will be great!11:08
daniel__Okay 11:08
gabriel_jetro+111:08
jelknerwe want to replace our current static website with a more dynamic one11:08
mulbahwhen should we discuss it11:08
jelknerwhen do you think, mulbah?11:08
mulbahTomorrow the same time11:09
jelknerhmmm, stand up meetings are not really the place for this kind of discussion11:09
jelknerstand up meetings should be 10 minutes long, and only used to "check-in" with the team11:10
daniel__Will you be available on Saturday?11:10
daniel__We can better discuss that11:10
jelkneri could meet on Sunday11:10
svayeIt could be discussed in the evening hour tomorrow jelkner before the board meeting or after.11:10
mulbahsure svaye11:10
jelknerSaturday I have to be at Mount Rainier Day11:10
freenaWhat time jelkner ??11:10
jelknerhttps://www.mountrainiermd.org/391/Mount-Rainier-Day-202511:11
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daniel__Okay, I think the best idea is through mail11:11
jelknerwhat time is good for you freena?11:11
jelkneror Monday is also possible for me11:11
jelknerSince it is a holiday here11:11
jelknerAnd then of course there is always the Thursday work sessions11:12
klarioshello all! 11:12
freenaI think 4:00pm our time is okay on Sunday 11:12
daniel__Okay then we all can meet and have a long conversation 11:12
jelknerSpeaking of the devil! ;-)11:12
svayeHi klarios, how are you doing 11:12
jelkneryou came just in time klarios 11:12
klarioshi I am doing well11:12
freenaBy that time everyone will be home jelkner 11:12
freenaHi klarios 11:13
jelknerJetro was asking for their next project11:13
klariossvaye: did you see my messages on telegram11:13
jelkneri would like you to be very much involved in that klarios 11:13
jkolliesunday dose'nt work for me 11:13
jelkneri'll take responsibility for now for our training and development plan11:13
svayeYeah klarios, I also replied to it. I will make sure to be done with the assignment before our next session.11:14
klarios@jetro before we get there I want to see project updates on the accountbility results 11:14
jelknerbut over time it will become your thing11:14
klariosno worries svaye, thank you for your patience!11:14
jelknerso the more you can ride shotgun now, the sooner you'll start thinking about how to do it11:14
jelknerwe need a team of Django devs who can do work at the low and of the professional skill spectrum11:15
klariostrue true. I have been thinking of how to do it, we need to generate our own revenue regardless to susrvive11:15
jelknerso that we can charge for their work11:15
jelknerwe've got a long way to go11:15
svayeIt's okay klarios, we are a team right ;-)11:15
jelknerbut we need to continue to head closer11:15
jelknerso, klarios 11:15
klarioswe do have a long way to go 11:15
jelkneri'm looking for what my dear friend Dave Welsh called "skill drivers"11:16
jelknerprojects specifically designed to increase desired skills11:16
jelknerthe culinary and cosmetology apps are just such projects11:16
jelknerbecause they are low risk and high benefit11:16
jelknerbut as i was saying before you came11:16
jelknerthe downside it they are ACC projects11:17
jelknerand Summer break is coming11:17
jelknerso we won't have customers for the 10 weeks we are off for Summer11:17
jelknerwe need something else during that time11:17
jelkneri pitched the idea of working on the new Grace Hopper Center ICT website11:17
jelknerbut I don't know if they are ready for that11:18
jelknerwe were in the middle of choosing a time for a planning meeting11:18
jelknerwhen you showed up11:18
jelkneri was saying i wanted you in that conversation11:18
jelknerso your timing was perfect! ;-)11:18
klariosyeah that makes sense. It would be a new client that means figuring out everything along the way11:18
jelknerACTION done11:18
jelknerwell, klarios, i am the client for that project11:19
jelknerand chris jones11:19
jelknerso you can't have more understanding clients11:19
jelknerbut demanding too ;-)11:19
jelkneri'll talk to cjones today11:19
jelknerand see what he says11:19
klariosthank you jelkner, yes you'd be the client true that! we would not only consult you though 11:20
jelkneryup11:20
jelknerok, i've got to go11:20
daniel__Have a nice day jelkner 11:20
klariosI would assume APS/ others would want to have a say in terms of product image, or tools they want to see / add in the website11:20
jelknersame time tomorrow?11:20
jelknerno, klarios 11:20
freena+1 for me11:20
jelkneronly cjones and me11:21
jelknerfreena, let's do this for tomorrow11:21
klariosanand was not able to make it?11:21
freenaSure11:21
jelknerhave all your team prepared to give a very brief report on what they are working on11:21
daniel__+1 same thing 11:21
jelknerthat's what is really supposed to happen in a stand up meeting11:21
daniel__×same time tomorrow 11:21
jelknerklarios, i don't know11:21
klariosI got confirmation for him coming tomorrow 11:22
jelkner1 to 3 pm11:22
klariosI will be there early as well11:22
klariosyep11:22
jelknerok, freena i'll look forward to hearing from y'all at 11:00 UTC tomorrow11:22
jelknerto tell me what you are doing11:22
jelkneruntil then...11:22
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freenaKlarios 11:23
klariosyes freena ?11:23
freenaHow are you??11:23
klariosi'm reading over the logs im a little lost11:23
freenaOkay 11:23
klariosI am well! i couldnt show up to a couple of my spanish lessons because my mom is recovering from her sickness but she is much better today11:24
svayeThat's great to know 11:24
klariosI want to inform you all of my plan with anand11:24
freenaOkay 11:25
daniel__Okay,  sorry to hear that. Wishing her good health condition 11:25
klariossince we only have him for a week and half I thought it would be a better idea to involve him in a "Market investigation" of decidim for the costumers who are interested in using it. I think this is the most effiicient thing to do in a week 1/2 because getting him onboarded with our own django/ infrastructure problems would take too long11:26
klariosthank you daniel__ ! unfortunately it is the season for getting sick here. it always happens around change in season11:27
klariosI will share an email with him and you today detailing his responsibilities 11:28
daniel__Okay 11:28
freenaOkay 11:28
svayeAlright 11:29
daniel__That's a great idea. It. Will help alot11:29
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klarioslike I mentioned before, it would be great if we got project updates (results) from eveeryone this week perhaps freena  can help me with that11:29
klariosgreat! 11:30
daniel__Okay 11:30
klariosin terms of future projects, I think we will be able to do it but I must be intentional on who our client is going to be11:31
freenaSure klarios 11:31
klariosour first and most priority client would be maryland latino caucus. 11:31
klarioswe want to get their website re-stored and looking better than it was before11:32
freenaSounds great 11:32
klariosI will be in charge to let you know how that conversation goes with the client11:32
klariosnow that i have finished my first year in university I will have time until I start again!11:33
klariosnow before i go. Can I get a brief description of what everyone is working on right now?11:33
klariosalso daniel__ I've got the secosol bank statement for 2025. I have to upload it to nextcloud today11:35
daniel__Okay, Gracias11:35
klariosI am working on making a presentation for jetro websters on how to use business tracker simultaneously11:36
klariosde nada!11:36
svayeI am working on my pronunciation of the Spanish alphabet and numbers.11:37
gabriel_jetroI think weeks ago, I posted to Django about what I did over time with the culinary website. But recently I've been studying for test 11:37
klariosI am also working on lesson plans, accountability reports, and figuring out a way to track the book keeping learning sessions11:38
daniel__That's great 11:39
klariosas for the django web apps we can see the activity since its public. You would only need to create reports for jelkner to look at11:39
klariosthomasboimah: , gabriel_jetro , mulbah normally our clients wont be cjones and jelkner so we have to get used to generating costumer reports so that they know their money is not being wasted!11:40
klariosespecially if it is a client that is not familiar with technology or web design11:41
gabriel_jetroOkay 11:41
mulbahalright11:41
thomasboimahA weeks ago we was able to resolve the issue of email for nova web. But right now since their is no work for us I am just working on improving my skills11:42
klariosthe webapps are completed? thomasboimah 11:42
thomasboimahOf course  klarios 11:42
thomasboimahwhich webapp klarios ?11:42
klarioswow! i have been so drowned in exams that i have not taken a look 11:42
klariosculinary / cosmetology11:43
thomasboimahNOt yet11:43
thomasboimahBut Jeff said that we will talk about that Thursday11:43
klariosoooh okay, then i would say its time for a project update11:44
thomasboimahAfter that we can start working on completing it11:44
klariosmakes sense thomasboimah. I was thinking a project update on the webapps could be a good idea now to see how confident mulbah gabriel_jetro and you feel about the work that you have been doing up until now11:45
klariosproject updates are a place where you talk about challenges or progress with the projects you are working on. This will let me know what you are capable of and what you can handle11:46
gabriel_jetroI did complete the form 11:46
klarioswhat form? the result?11:46
gabriel_jetroNo, the reservation form 11:47
gabriel_jetroAnd..11:47
klariosooooh great news gabriel_jetro !11:47
gabriel_jetroChris reviewed it and said he was certified with  it, so I should remove the allergies part because they ain't ready for it yet 11:48
klariosfreena: can I count on you to help jetro websters to make project updates this and next week? 11:48
klariosahh that makes sense gabriel_jetro 11:48
daniel__Okay klarios, Gracias por su tiempo11:49
klariosalright then we will hear jelkner out on his plan with the grace hopper website and then we will tend to MD latino caucus11:49
klariossounds good?11:49
klariosde nada daniel__ you are getting good at this!11:50
gabriel_jetroOhkay 11:50
klariosso much before we start grace hopper website work we have to fix MD latino caucus website. But I still want to hear jelkner's needs as a costumer 11:51
klariossounds all good then11:51
svayeYes11:51
klarioswe are meeting tomorrow again. Be on the lookout for an email from me later today detailing anand's work 11:52
klariosthank you all for coming! and have a great rest of your day!11:53
svayeAdiós klarios 11:54
klariosADIOS! que tengan buen dia!11:54
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