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| thomasboimah | Good morning Jeff | 10:56 |
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| jelkner | Good morning jkollie and mulbah | 11:01 |
| jelkner | Great to see you both! | 11:01 |
| jelkner | oh, and you too thomasboimah | 11:01 |
| jelkner | lol, i missed you up at the top of the list ;-) | 11:01 |
| mulbah | Good morning jeff | 11:01 |
| jelkner | do you have a few minutes to chat? | 11:02 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 11:02 |
| jelkner | i keep thinking about our process | 11:02 |
| jelkner | maybe thinking *too* much | 11:02 |
| jelkner | we need less chat and more learning | 11:02 |
| jelkner | every process we try to put in place so far seems to "heavy" | 11:02 |
| jelkner | it takes too much time, and we get bogged down in process, and end up not producing much product | 11:03 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, you ask for things to do, right? | 11:03 |
| jelkner | well, i have two of them | 11:03 |
| jelkner | ready? | 11:03 |
| thomasboimah | Go for it | 11:03 |
| jelkner | 1. you have yet to deliver on telling me whether we can handle novawebdevelopment.org emails the way i asked | 11:04 |
| jelkner | at present, they just bounce | 11:04 |
| jelkner | klarios and i were talking about that yesterday | 11:04 |
| jelkner | it's not the end of the world, but it's not great either | 11:04 |
| jelkner | if someone in the future tries to email an old address, say service@novawebdevelopment.org (not even sure if that was one, but just for example) | 11:05 |
| jelkner | it will bounce | 11:05 |
| thomasboimah | Wait, did you mean that the mail forwarding is not working? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | i don't want it to bounce | 11:05 |
| jelkner | do you understand what i am saying? | 11:06 |
| jelkner | we have old email addresses | 11:06 |
| mulbah | I'm trying to understand | 11:06 |
| jelkner | that will not have new ones on the .coop domain | 11:06 |
| jelkner | legacy accounts | 11:06 |
| jelkner | the problem is, what do we do with the customer from 5 years ago who has a no longer existing email address in their contacts and tries to use it? | 11:07 |
| jelkner | my user story was: | 11:07 |
| jelkner | 1. I want anything@novawebdevelopment.org to generate an autoreply | 11:07 |
| jelkner | 2. I want the autoreply to say: NOVA Web Development has moved its email to the .coop domain. Please email members@novawebdevelopment.coop to reach us. | 11:08 |
| jelkner | that's what i was hoping we could have | 11:08 |
| jelkner | I don't know how to set that up | 11:08 |
| jelkner | But at least you could do some research and then reach out to may first support to ask | 11:09 |
| thomasboimah | Ahh, but at first you was saying if we can get the mail forwarding to work there will be no need for autoreply | 11:09 |
| jelkner | where will it forward? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | i think the auto reply is better | 11:09 |
| jelkner | it makes people update their contact lists | 11:09 |
| jelkner | and helps us move toward the day when we no longer even need to pay for the .org domain | 11:10 |
| thomasboimah | if an email is send to members@novawebdevelopment.org it will be forward to members@novawebdevelopment.coop | 11:10 |
| thomasboimah | And we tested that it wor | 11:10 |
| thomasboimah | *work | 11:10 |
| jelkner | right, but what happens if you email stefan@novawebdevelopment.org? or some other legacy email? | 11:10 |
| jelkner | it just bounces | 11:10 |
| jelkner | and we don't want to create new .coop addresses for those legacy accounts | 11:11 |
| thomasboimah | That can also be set up | 11:11 |
| jelkner | do you get me? | 11:11 |
| thomasboimah | But if you an autoreply i can get on that | 11:11 |
| thomasboimah | *want | 11:11 |
| jelkner | what do you think? | 11:11 |
| thomasboimah | Autoreply will be best | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i'm open to suggestions, as long as you understand the problem | 11:12 |
| jelkner | that's what i thought | 11:12 |
| jelkner | our resources (especially time) are limited | 11:12 |
| thomasboimah | I will research on that | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we need a simple solution that works | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i'll be seeing klarios tomorrow | 11:12 |
| mulbah | so if someone email stefan@novawebdevelopment.org for example it should say NOVA Web Development has moved its email to the .coop domain. Please email members@novawebdevelopment.coop to reach us. | 11:13 |
| jelkner | please look into it | 11:13 |
| jelkner | yes mulbah, that's what i want! | 11:13 |
| jelkner | ok, next item (and i have only two) | 11:13 |
| jelkner | how can we get y'all learning the Django skills we need to market your work? | 11:13 |
| thomasboimah | Not only stefan but all the @novawebdevelopment.org mails | 11:13 |
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| jelkner | we've been trying with the cosmetology and culinary projects | 11:14 |
| jelkner | but it seems to clunky | 11:14 |
| jelkner | it's not working | 11:14 |
| jelkner | so i have a thought i wanted to run by you... | 11:14 |
| jelkner | instead of trying to collaborate with the students here, why not just fork the projects and see what you can do on your own? | 11:14 |
| thomasboimah | That will be great! | 11:15 |
| jelkner | there are both downsides and upsides to this approach | 11:15 |
| mulbah | sure jeff | 11:15 |
| jelkner | glad you like it! | 11:15 |
| mulbah | love it so much | 11:15 |
| jelkner | the main downside is that you don't have the customer to meet with | 11:15 |
| jelkner | you will have to act as your own customer | 11:15 |
| jelkner | the upside is that it builds your ability to act independently and speeds up Django skills development | 11:16 |
| jelkner | i think we should try it | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and you sound like you agree | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we are going to try lots of things | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and we are going to make lots of mistakes | 11:17 |
| jelkner | behind me on the wall in my classroom is a poster from a wonderful childrens show my kids watched when they were little | 11:18 |
| jelkner | called The Magic Schoolbus | 11:18 |
| jelkner | the teacher, Ms. Frizzle, always told the kids: | 11:18 |
| jelkner | "Take chances, make mistakes, get messy!" | 11:18 |
| jelkner | Natalia turned that into a poster for me (the kind of thing i hope jkollie_ will be able to do someday ;-( | 11:19 |
| jelkner | :-) | 11:19 |
| jelkner | oops | 11:19 |
| jelkner | so whenever someone comes to my desk in my classroom, they see that poster behind me | 11:19 |
| mulbah | so Jeff we should come up with a project to work on using Django right | 11:20 |
| jelkner | mulbah, you could come up with your own project | 11:20 |
| daniel__ | Good morning folks | 11:20 |
| jelkner | but it would be better if you thought about the spa day reservation system | 11:20 |
| jelkner | whatever you do, make sure you are learning the skills | 11:20 |
| jelkner | don't let chatgpt do it for you! | 11:21 |
| jelkner | that won't hellp | 11:21 |
| jelkner | it needs to be *YOU* who understands your code, even if you get help starting it | 11:21 |
| jelkner | from websearches, AIs, etc. | 11:21 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 11:22 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 11:22 |
| jelkner | keep in mind the goal - to become skilled Django devs | 11:22 |
| jelkner | We have a powerful application that Stefan wrote - Business Tracker | 11:22 |
| jelkner | it would be great if a year or 2 from now, you could hack on that, adding features to it! | 11:23 |
| jelkner | that is where we want to go | 11:23 |
| jelkner | when you can do that, you will be a pro | 11:23 |
| jelkner | so the goal now is to figure our path from here to there | 11:24 |
| jelkner | and begin walking that path | 11:24 |
| mulbah | alright | 11:24 |
| jelkner | you all will get better and better at helping us to learn to be pathfinders | 11:24 |
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| jelkner | to take ownership of this process | 11:24 |
| jelkner | you own your own business together, that's what it means to be co-op owners | 11:25 |
| jelkner | anyway, i'm talking too much, as usual! ;-) | 11:25 |
| jelkner | do you want to meet on Monday? | 11:26 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 11:26 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:26 |
| jelkner | see you then | 11:26 |
| daniel__ | +1 | 11:26 |
| jelkner | have a great weekend! | 11:26 |
| daniel__ | Have a nice day jelkner | 11:26 |
| jelkner | you too daniel__ | 11:26 |
| thomasboimah | So you mean we should hack on the spa day reservation system | 11:26 |
| jelkner | if you could | 11:27 |
| jelkner | imaging you could just run with it | 11:27 |
| jelkner | and come back to us and say "Look what we've done!" | 11:27 |
| jelkner | and have us say, "Wow, that's just want we need!!" | 11:27 |
| daniel__ | thomasboimah: you saw my message? | 11:27 |
| jelkner | that would be a dream come true | 11:27 |
| thomasboimah | I did bro but i am not home right now | 11:28 |
| jelkner | ok all, i need to sign off | 11:28 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until Monday at 11:00 UTC | 11:29 |
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