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| jelkner | Good morning svaye! | 10:52 |
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| svaye | Good morning jelkner. How are you doing | 10:53 |
| jelkner | or should I say "¡Buenos dias, svaye!" ;-) | 10:53 |
| svaye | Buenos dias jelkner, como estás | 10:54 |
| thomasboimah | Greeting jelkner jelkner and svaye | 10:55 |
| jelkner | ¿Cómo van tus clases con Kei? | 10:55 |
| jkollie | Good morning jelkner | 10:55 |
| svaye | Good morning thomasboimah | 10:55 |
| jelkner | lol, i think you mean jkollie jelkner and svaye, thomasboimah | 10:55 |
| thomasboimah | oops yeah | 10:55 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, did you see cjone's email? | 10:56 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah and i responed to him | 10:56 |
| jelkner | hmmm, i don't know if i saw that | 10:56 |
| jelkner | let me look | 10:56 |
| svaye | Es Bueno jelkner | 10:57 |
| jelkner | muy bien, svaye, me alegre | 10:57 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, i don't see the reply | 10:59 |
| jelkner | did it get sent to me? | 10:59 |
| jelkner | wait, after the meeting | 10:59 |
| jelkner | let's go | 11:00 |
| jelkner | yesterday i prepared the final test for my discrete math class, today i'll be reviewing with them for that test, which they take thursday | 11:01 |
| jelkner | i'm not blocking on anything, but i'll also begin packing up my classroom for the Summer recess today. | 11:01 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:01 |
| svaye | Gracias jelkner, aquí igual | 11:01 |
| thomasboimah | I didn’t make any progress on my own repo this cycle because I decided to pause that work and join the main project that’s already further along. Chris sent me an email suggesting that since the other repo he and his students are working on is more complete, it makes more sense for us to focus on that one instead of my separate repo. | 11:02 |
| thomasboimah | I’ve reached out to him to ask about available tasks so we can start contributing soon. I also asked about setting up a meeting on HexChat to go over any questions in real time. | 11:02 |
| thomasboimah | I’m ready to jump in as soon as we get the task assignments. | 11:02 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 11:02 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, please check you mail again i just forward it you | 11:02 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, let's chat about this immediately after our stand-up meeting | 11:02 |
| jelkner | thanks, thomasboimah | 11:03 |
| jkollie | my pratice with inkscape continue's, i've been watching toturial on fixing credit card, flyers and etc. | 11:03 |
| jkollie | but I still have a little blocker with the credit card I started fixing, | 11:03 |
| jkollie | 11:03 | |
| jkollie | i'm hoping to complete that today and move to fixing *flyers*. | 11:04 |
| jkollie | ACTION done | 11:04 |
| jelkner | jelkner is looking forward to the day when he can see jkollie's artwork! | 11:04 |
| svaye | I didn't work on anything new yesterday. Klarios and I are meeting today to discuss my improvement, and there aren't any blockers. | 11:04 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro? | 11:05 |
| dcammue | Good morning to all | 11:05 |
| dcammue | Yesterday I did a recap for what all I have been learning | 11:06 |
| dcammue | And today, I will start to learn how to make budget in guncash | 11:06 |
| dcammue | But there is a blocker | 11:06 |
| dcammue | I don't have idea of guncash | 11:07 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yesterday, I didn't work on anything. I saw Mr. Jones's email, and I need to ask Thomas how we should proceed, as he has already emailed Mr. Jones, which is what I intended to do this morning. For now, there are no blockers. | 11:07 |
| jelkner | what do you mean by "I don't have idea"? | 11:07 |
| dcammue | Sorry, *of budget | 11:07 |
| jelkner | oh, great point dcammue | 11:07 |
| dcammue | So it my first time to take a look | 11:07 |
| jelkner | that's different | 11:07 |
| jelkner | let's chat briefly after | 11:08 |
| jelkner | ok, i think everyone has gone | 11:08 |
| jelkner | nice work! | 11:08 |
| dcammue | And I need a lots of resources to cach up | 11:08 |
| jelkner | we did it in under 10 minutes | 11:08 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 11:08 |
| jelkner | ok, seems like i need to address 3 issues | 11:08 |
| jelkner | and i only have about 15 minutes to do that | 11:09 |
| jelkner | so let me jump right in | 11:09 |
| jelkner | issue 1: Jetro needs to have two staff people who maintain at least a 0.9 probability of being at a meeting | 11:09 |
| jelkner | !!! | 11:09 |
| jelkner | so we need to discuss that | 11:09 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro, in two weeks of stand up meetings, to maintain at least a 0.9 probability of attending, what is the maximum number of meetings you can miss? | 11:10 |
| gabriel_jetro | None, I can be available anytime for you jelkner | 11:11 |
| jelkner | LOL, bad answer gabriel_jetro! | 11:11 |
| jelkner | noboby is perfect | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we need to have serious conversations about this | 11:12 |
| jelkner | (i appreciate the humor, but this is an important conversation) | 11:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | Sure, but for now, I don't have anything to do to give an excuse for it. | 11:12 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, can you answer my question? it is a math question | 11:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | But if circumstances come along the way I'll let you'll know. | 11:13 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, can you? | 11:13 |
| thomasboimah | you mean this: gabriel_jetro, in two weeks of stand up meetings, to maintain at least a 0.9 probability of attending, what is the maximum number of meetings you can miss? | 11:13 |
| jelkner | yes! | 11:13 |
| jelkner | how many stand-up meetings do we have in two weeks? | 11:13 |
| thomasboimah | 10 | 11:14 |
| jelkner | correct | 11:14 |
| gabriel_jetro | It's 10 | 11:14 |
| jelkner | what is 0.9 of 10? | 11:14 |
| dcammue | 5 | 11:14 |
| jelkner | no, dcammue | 11:14 |
| jelkner | anyone else? | 11:14 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah? | 11:15 |
| dcammue | 4 is correct | 11:15 |
| jelkner | ok, let me tell you | 11:15 |
| jelkner | 9 | 11:15 |
| jelkner | 0.9 of 10 = 9 | 11:15 |
| gabriel_jetro | Sure | 11:16 |
| jelkner | it is the same as asking "What is 90 percent of 10?" | 11:16 |
| jelkner | you say sure gabriel_jetro, so why didn't you answer? | 11:16 |
| svaye | We have to miss one meeting | 11:16 |
| jelkner | yes svaye | 11:16 |
| thomasboimah | is can also be 0.09 | 11:16 |
| jelkner | i am trying to drive home a very important point | 11:16 |
| dcammue | Oh , sorry. You said two weeks | 11:16 |
| jelkner | it will take time to understand it, i know | 11:16 |
| thomasboimah | because 0.9/ 10 = 0.09 | 11:16 |
| jelkner | but it is important | 11:16 |
| dcammue | You are right | 11:16 |
| svaye | Because 0.9 would represent 90% of the meeting days | 11:17 |
| jelkner | i don't know what the "magic number" is | 11:17 |
| jelkner | i choose 0.9 because it sounds reasonable and it makes the math easy | 11:17 |
| jelkner | but the point is, there is some threshold (and if you don't know the word "threshold", please look it up!) | 11:18 |
| jelkner | that will separate success from failure | 11:18 |
| jelkner | we are trying to run a business | 11:18 |
| jelkner | again, i don't know exactly where that threshold is, but if we stay above it, we succeed | 11:18 |
| jelkner | if we fall below it, we fail | 11:19 |
| jelkner | i want to succeed | 11:19 |
| dcammue | I want to do the same too | 11:19 |
| jelkner | anyway, thomasboimah (and the rest of you), freena has now missed two meetings within the last two weeks | 11:19 |
| jelkner | that won't work | 11:19 |
| jelkner | if we can't plan on the staff people being here, we will fail | 11:20 |
| jelkner | so thomasboimah, please talk to her today | 11:20 |
| jelkner | and figure out why she is missing | 11:20 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 11:20 |
| jelkner | i'm struggling with klarios around the same issues | 11:20 |
| jelkner | if people don't show, we can't run a business | 11:20 |
| jelkner | ok that was the first thing | 11:21 |
| jelkner | next thing | 11:21 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah and gabriel_jetro, this is for you | 11:21 |
| jelkner | it is really important we figure out how to use our resources well | 11:21 |
| jelkner | cjones has kindly offered to mentor you | 11:21 |
| jelkner | but you need to learn to work with him effectively | 11:21 |
| jelkner | he says he filled issues in the git repo | 11:22 |
| jelkner | and you never addressed them | 11:22 |
| jelkner | and then you said "we don't know what to work on" | 11:22 |
| jelkner | i told him he can't expect you to know how this workflow operates | 11:22 |
| jelkner | but that together, we need to figure it out | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i warned you to be ready for lots of changes | 11:23 |
| jelkner | we try one thing, when it doesn't work, we try something else, when that doesn't work, we go back and try the 1st approach again with a slight modification, etc. | 11:23 |
| jelkner | so it was my suggestion that you try to build your own version of the reservations system app | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i suggested that to cjones because i thought you were not ready to work on the one his class is building | 11:24 |
| jelkner | since you don't have the experience yet | 11:24 |
| jelkner | that's what we are trying to figure out | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i need for cjones to get a good sense of what you can and can not yet do | 11:25 |
| jelkner | so he can assign you appropriate tasks for your level of skill | 11:25 |
| jelkner | does this make sense? | 11:25 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 11:25 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 11:25 |
| jelkner | so i am asking you two for two very important favors: | 11:26 |
| jelkner | 1. *most* important, gabriel_jetro, please work *with* thomasboimah! | 11:26 |
| jelkner | 2. please try to communicate with cjones and jelkner as clearly as you can, so the 4 of us can figure out how to move forward | 11:26 |
| jelkner | how does that sound? | 11:27 |
| thomasboimah | Good! | 11:27 |
| gabriel_jetro | Great | 11:27 |
| jelkner | ok, so for today, you two need to decide whether you understand the current application that cjones's students built | 11:27 |
| jelkner | and believe you could "hack on it" | 11:28 |
| jelkner | or whether you think building your own from scratch would better help you learn Django | 11:28 |
| jelkner | we need feedback from you | 11:28 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 11:28 |
| jelkner | this is challenging trying to do this remotely | 11:28 |
| thomasboimah | I already compose an email to chris about that | 11:28 |
| jelkner | since we can't sit in the same room with you and watch you work | 11:28 |
| jelkner | but we need to work with what we have | 11:29 |
| jelkner | ok, thomasboimah, thanks | 11:29 |
| jelkner | let's check-in again tomorrow | 11:29 |
| jelkner | and i'll talk with him today | 11:29 |
| jelkner | last thing, for dcammue | 11:29 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 11:29 |
| gabriel_jetro | Ok | 11:29 |
| jelkner | The concept of a "budget" is very interesting | 11:29 |
| jelkner | it is a planning document, dcammue | 11:30 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:30 |
| jelkner | you start with your resources, measured in money usually | 11:30 |
| jelkner | and you try to map your resources to your needs | 11:30 |
| jelkner | this is a very important part of running a business | 11:30 |
| dcammue | For all the expenses the company or business will go through in a year or months | 11:31 |
| jelkner | and we will all need to learn how to do it | 11:31 |
| jelkner | it will take us years | 11:31 |
| gabriel_jetro | thomasboimah: can you stay for 2mins after jelkner leaves? | 11:31 |
| jelkner | as we gain more and more experience with what actually happens | 11:31 |
| thomasboimah | Of course gabriel_jetro | 11:31 |
| jelkner | we will begin to be able to better predict what is likely to happen in the future | 11:31 |
| jelkner | that's what a budget is all about | 11:31 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:31 |
| jelkner | ok, i have to go | 11:32 |
| dcammue | Thanks for today | 11:32 |
| dcammue | See you tomorrow | 11:32 |
| jelkner | look forward to chatting again tomorrow at 11 UTC | 11:32 |
| dcammue | Same time same place | 11:32 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until tomorrow | 11:32 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:32 |
| jelkner | yes dcammue | 11:32 |
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| svaye | Have a wonderful day everyone, bye | 11:32 |
| svaye | ACTION signs until 14:00 UTC today | 11:33 |
| jkollie | bye svaye | 11:33 |
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| thomasboimah | gabriel_jetro, you ask me to wait | 11:35 |
| gabriel_jetro | thomasboimah: with what Jeff was saying, first of all, I'm sorry for making them to feel this way because I didn't do those changes that cjones requested me to do. Now I fully understand and I know we can do this together with what comes ask his students to work on, can we once again apologize and promise to make it our full responsibility, I know this is on me. | 11:36 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 11:37 |
| gabriel_jetro | Do you have anything to say? | 11:37 |
| gabriel_jetro | Like what you think | 11:37 |
| thomasboimah | let wait and hear what he is going to tell Jeff today | 11:38 |
| thomasboimah | After the two them meet | 11:38 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay. | 11:38 |
| thomasboimah | But i already compose an email to him | 11:38 |
| thomasboimah | let also wait for his respond | 11:38 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 11:38 |
| thomasboimah | Then we can take it from there | 11:39 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 11:39 |
| thomasboimah | Okay bro | 11:39 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION leaving | 11:39 |
| gabriel_jetro | Have a nice day man. | 11:39 |
| thomasboimah | okay bro you too | 11:40 |
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| klarios | good morning svaye ! | 14:00 |
| klarios | well afternoon for you | 14:00 |
| klarios | how are you? | 14:00 |
| svaye | Good morning klarios | 14:00 |
| svaye | I am good | 14:01 |
| svaye | How are you doing | 14:01 |
| klarios | that's great! we finally get to meet, I'm sorry for confusing last tuesday | 14:01 |
| svaye | It's okay | 14:01 |
| klarios | I am well and healthy thank god | 14:01 |
| svaye | That's great | 14:02 |
| klarios | alright lets get an update of where you left off. I got your voice recording and you did well! | 14:02 |
| svaye | Really, I was nervous | 14:04 |
| klarios | your pronunciation was great1 | 14:04 |
| klarios | ! | 14:04 |
| klarios | haha no worries! the only that needed correcting was the tricky one | 14:04 |
| klarios | oso | 14:04 |
| klarios | I think you said Osu | 14:04 |
| klarios | other than that it was successful! | 14:05 |
| klarios | since we did miss last week and we've got to do the words for this week. I was thinking your homework should be pronouncing 10 words | 14:05 |
| klarios | 5 from each group | 14:06 |
| klarios | so it will be: B-V (Both sound like a soft English "B"—no "V" puff!) Barco → BAHR-koh (bahr like "bar," koh like "coat") Vaca → BAH-kah (bah like "bop," kah like "cot") Botella → boh-TEH-yah (boh like "bow," teh like "ten," yah like "yacht") Ventana → ben-TAH-nah (ben like "bend," tah like "taco") Bicicleta → bee-see-KLEH-tah (bee like "beet," kleh like "clay") | 14:06 |
| klarios | and CH (Sounds like "ch" in "church") Chocolate → cho-ko-LAH-teh (cho like "choir," te like "teh") Chile → CHEE-leh (chee like "cheese," leh like "let" without the "t") Chico/a → CHEE-koh / CHEE-kah (chico = boy, chica = girl) Chaqueta → cha-KEH-tah (cha like "chop," keh like "kettle") Chiste → CHEES-teh (joke – "cheese" + "teh") | 14:07 |
| klarios | So both B-V and CH sounds | 14:07 |
| klarios | if you go into the week 3 homework in modules, you will see that the words are listed out. I will say the tricky part will be pronouncing the V | 14:08 |
| klarios | and some of these words have R (that one will be tough to pronounce) | 14:08 |
| klarios | svaye: are you on phone or computer today? | 14:09 |
| svaye | I am using my phone | 14:09 |
| klarios | should we try to use jitsy? | 14:09 |
| svaye | Like the video call? | 14:10 |
| klarios | Video Conference | 14:10 |
| klarios | I am wondering if something like discord works for the bandwidth | 14:11 |
| klarios | here's the link: https://meet.mayfirst.org/NOVA_WebDev | 14:11 |
| klarios | try it out | 14:11 |
| svaye | I got on the call but didn't hear you say anything? | 14:16 |
| klarios | svaye: try again | 14:16 |
| klarios | my microphone was off | 14:16 |
| klarios | are you in? | 14:18 |
| klarios | it seems like the sound is a bit distorted | 14:19 |
| klarios | I will change the settings to low bandwidth | 14:20 |
| klarios | give me 5 minutes ive got to look up how to do that | 14:20 |
| svaye | Alright | 14:21 |
| svaye | I enable low bandwidth from my end | 14:22 |
| klarios | ok try it now | 14:23 |
| klarios | i enabled it for everyone | 14:23 |
| klarios | okay we are on jitsy! | 14:26 |
| klarios | Yayy! Jitsy worked great! | 14:37 |
| klarios | so svaye the assignment for this week is clear? | 14:37 |
| klarios | assignment is clear! | 14:53 |
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