IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Tuesday, 2025-06-24

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freenaHi mkolleh 12:22
mkollehHow are you doing freena 12:22
freenaI'm good and you 12:23
svayeGood afternoon freena and  mkolleh 12:25
mkollehGood afternoon svaye 12:25
thomasboimahGood afternoon everyone12:27
gabriel_jetroGood afternoon, svaye, mkolleh, thomasboimah , jkollie, and freena12:28
svayeHow are you guys doing 12:28
gabriel_jetroFine and you 12:29
freena N ñnññnmnnnnñ12:30
dcammueGood morning afternoon folks 12:30
gabriel_jetroHahaha, freena you're having keyboard problems 12:30
gabriel_jetroGood afternoon dcammue 12:31
dcammueCan we start please 12:31
dcammueI have less data12:31
thomasboimahYesterday, I was able to complete all the issues on my PR for the Culinary Project. I pushed the changes to my branch so that Chris can review them before merging into the main branch. Today, while waiting for Chris's feedback on the PR, I plan to look into Weebly for Ms. Marilynn Scholl website. No blocker.12:31
thomasboimahACTION done12:31
svayeYesterday I didn't have money for data, that's why I didn't show for the meeting.  Today I called scooper two times but he didn't answer the call. If anyone has the chance they should please contact scooper, I will continue calling him.12:32
svayeACTION done12:32
dcammueYesterday,  I gave Spencer a call and he did not answer,  but I also texted him and did not respond to my text as well. I also look over my guncash tutorials 12:33
dcammueAnd I will continue today12:33
dcammueNo blockers 12:33
dcammueACTION DONE12:33
freenayesterday I completely my practice on table and chats and today I will move over to module 212:33
gabriel_jetroThis gone week I was reading my colleage algebra and doing some practices because I was not having data to complete my reservation-form, I plan on resuming it today since I have data and continue with my introduction to statistics. So far that was the blocker I had  12:34
gabriel_jetroACTION done12:34
freenaI try Spencer number yesterday but it wasn't going through 12:34
freenaBut I will try today 12:35
freenaACTION down 12:35
freenadcammue: can you send me a copy of the article 12:35
dcammueOkay 12:36
freenaThe file is in my phone which is blind 12:36
freenaThanks dcammue 12:37
dcammueAnything?12:37
freenaACTION done 12:37
dcammueJkollie 12:38
freenathomasboimah: 12:38
jkolliefreena: 12:38
mkollehYesterday I added an invoice and transaction page to my project you can create an account and test it  12:38
freenayes jkollie 12:38
mkollehACTION done12:38
mkollehthomas really want us to use weebly 12:38
mkollehyou*12:39
thomasboimahThat is not my decision to make mkolleh 12:39
jkollieDo you have any idea why klarios isn't here? freena 12:39
mkollehthe decision was giving to use yesterday 12:39
thomasboimahI happy to work with any Technology12:39
mkollehklarios side we can use any stuff that is best for the project12:40
thomasboimahSo what you want us to use mkolleh ??12:40
mkollehsince we want to deliver things that is best for our client12:40
klariosHi all Sorry I am late. Here's my quick update. Today I am having class with shallon and having a meeting with te decidim team after this meeting12:40
klariosno blockers 12:41
jkolliehi klarios 12:41
klariosACTION done12:41
klarioshi all! 12:41
svayeHi klarios 12:41
mkollehmaybe we can you Tailwind css and Django or something similar to weebly12:41
svayeHow are you doing 12:41
freenaHi klarios 12:41
klariosHi I am well12:42
freenaGuys the logo with the arrow like design is on the site now 12:42
thomasboimahmkolleh, are you good at Tailwind css??12:42
klariosLike I mentioned yesterday the costumer is mostly concerned with using an interface where she can easily log in and upload or change information in the website12:42
klariossuch as adding photos, bios, content, etc12:43
freenaShould, I place it right beside jetro web development on the index page??12:43
mkollehI'm getting around with it 12:43
mkollehit's cool and not default 12:43
klariosWe can make a case for a specific interface but it is ultimately her decison 12:43
klariosdecision 12:43
mkollehher decision for us to use weebly12:43
mkolleh??12:44
klariosthe purpose of this page is to be informational 12:44
klariosShe said the national organizations mostly use weebly but she is not required to use it12:44
dcammueI suggest it should be in the nave bar freena 12:45
freenaAlright dcammue, thanks brother 12:45
gabriel_jetroCan you send a copy of the site so we can see, freena 12:46
dcammueWhere the navigating links will be on the left and it will be on the right 12:46
mkollehwe using Django will make it flexible enough for her to have full control over her site 12:46
freenaOkay gabriel_jetro 12:46
dcammueIn that way, it will show on all pages if your are using css file12:46
dcammueOnly link is need gabriel_jetro or just go to Google and type jetroweb Development 12:47
dcammueYou will se 12:47
dcammue* you will see it12:47
gabriel_jetroI know dcammue, but I'm saying the one she's working on.12:48
dcammueIs there 12:48
mkollehHow you see it klarios 12:48
klariosthat makes sense mkolleh but it sounds more time consuming and she only has a $200 budget. If you think that is worth it and can be done in a minimal timeline, then I suggest you recommend her to use it12:48
dcammueIn the Clint page 12:49
klarioswe can do that together and I will be part of the conversation 12:49
klariosi think it would be a good idea to give her a template though 12:49
freenaYes gabriel_jetro, that's right 12:49
klariossomething tangible she can reference her user experience 12:49
mkollehthomasboimah gabriel_jetro should we go for it with Django or use weebly12:50
klariosI suggest you make a template site with all the components she wants using django and I can present it to her12:51
klariosor at least 1 of the components/ features she wants12:52
klariossuch as a bio page or a blog post12:52
thomasboimahmkolleh, anyone that is best but get in mind that if we are using Django is going to be time consuming and the client only have $20012:52
mkollehI think we can just use weebly since it will be host on it 12:54
mkollehif we use Django we need a server and a domain name for the site12:55
klariosperhaps we could split the tasks? thomasboimah can work on getting a template of a site up in weebly and mkolleh can work on getting a site up with one or two of her asks 12:55
gabriel_jetroBut klarios is suggesting Django thomasboimah 12:55
klariostrue! but that charge would be for her to pay. we no longer host for people12:55
thomasboimahOkay gabriel_jetro lets go with Django12:55
klariosI am suggesting whatever is less costly i think12:55
gabriel_jetroOkay 12:56
klariosand since weebly is hosting I would assume it would cost less for her12:56
mkollehsure klarios12:57
klariosbut I will draft it up to her and ask.12:57
mkollehit solute her budgets 12:57
klarioscan I assure that she will be able to have full control of all the content on the site once she logs into the site?12:58
klariosmkolleh: ?12:58
mkollehif we use Django??12:59
klariossuch as uploading photos, changing text, etc12:59
klariosyes12:59
mkollehor weebly??12:59
klariosdjango12:59
mkollehSure she will 12:59
klariosalright, I will let her know then 12:59
mkollehShe will full control 12:59
mkollehhave*12:59
mkollehover everything 13:00
jkollieklarios: 13:00
klariosas long as the interface allows her to upload things that'd be great! i think that's her main purpose 13:00
dcammueI am running out of data guys13:00
klarioshi jkollie, what's up?13:00
jkollieI'm fine and you?13:01
freenaOkay dcammue 13:01
dcammueI might likely go off anytime 13:01
klariosI am well thank you 13:01
klariosno worries, thank you for letting us know13:01
klariosis there anything left to discuss regarding our standup meeting? any other updates13:01
klarios?13:01
freenaBut please don't forget to send a copy through mail dcammue, so I can edit 13:02
dcammueOkay 13:02
freena-1 for me 13:02
jkollie we having the meeting after jetro meeting right?13:02
jkollieklarios: 13:02
klarios-1 for me. My task for today is to have the meeting and email Ms. Scholl back.13:02
freena+1 jkollie 13:02
klariosbefore I go mkolleh , thomasboimah , gabriel_jetro how long would it take to make her website full django>13:03
klarios?13:03
freenaAlright klarios, I will just send an email instead 13:03
klariosconsidering that one feature could take a couple of hours and some testinting13:03
mkollehfor me it will take up to 3 weeks 13:04
klariosfreena: send an email to who?13:04
klariosalright. Sounds good!13:04
freenaTo you klarios 13:04
klariosooh. we are not meeting anymore freena ?13:05
freenaWe are klarios 13:05
klariosI think we still should13:05
klariosahh sorry I got confused13:05
klariosgotchu13:05
klariosalright! I think that's it for us13:05
freenaI thought you said that you won't make it that's why I talked about sending a mail klarios 13:06
klariosI will update you all on what response I get back from the costumer13:06
klarios??13:06
klariosWe can start the meeting right now13:06
klariosI've got time today 13:06
freenaAlright, thanks everyone for showing up to our standup meeting 13:06
freenaLet's start now klarios and jkollie 13:07
klariosyep yep! thank you all for coming!13:07
thomasboimahBye folks13:07
jkollieOkay 13:07
thomasboimahACTION leaving13:07
klarios!createmeeting Decidim 13:07
Websterss_✅ Meeting 'Decidim' scheduled for ET 2025-06-24 00:00.13:07
klarios!startmeeting Decidim13:07
klarios!activatemeeting Decidim13:07
Websterss_A meeting is already active: 'JetroSaturdayMeeting'. Please end it before activating a new one.13:07
klarios!help13:08
Websterss_Available commands: !activatemeeting, !add, !agenda, !ask, !createmeeting, !deactivemeeting, !finishmeeting, !help, !listmeetings, !remove, !sethost13:08
klarios!agenda13:08
Websterss_Agenda for meeting 'JetroSaturdayMeeting':13:08
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Websterss_✅ Meeting 'JetroSaturdayMeeting' has been finished and removed.13:08
klarios!activatemeeting Decidim13:08
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mkollehGood13:08
freenaFirstly, I want us to discuss about decidim. 13:08
klarios!add Discussing Upcoming tasks and roles13:09
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mkollehif you don't want to deleted the meeting you can just !deactivemeeting13:09
mkollehit13:09
klariosahhh got it13:09
klariosthxs mkolleh 13:09
mkollehYou welcome13:09
klarios!add streams of revenue for decidim13:10
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klarios!add Taking lead with VOCA13:10
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klarios!add13:10
Websterss_Invalid arguments.13:10
klarios!agenda13:10
Websterss_Agenda for meeting 'Decidim':13:10
klariosgreat! we shall start but before, does anyone want to add a topic of conversation?13:10
freenaThanks klarios 13:10
klariosthis is all about decidim, its good starting points13:11
jkollieThanks klarios 13:11
freenaThe agenda is cool klarios 13:11
klariosof course!13:11
freenaCan we start now??13:12
jkollie+113:12
klariosyes Im typing something up13:13
freenaAlright 13:13
klariosMy first starting point has to do with understanding our roles in decidim. The specialization lies in getting the people to use the software for participatory planning. For that to happen software has to be accessible both in backend, front end, and in costumer support. 13:14
jkollieThat's right 13:15
klariosSoon this summer Nova web development will partner with VOCA  (https://voca.city ) to create an instance for the Next system studies teach Ins, which will happen all around the country. NOVA web (being me) will in exchange recieve training in providing all the conditions needed for participants to use the software13:16
klariosespecially in the area they live in 13:16
klarioswe dont just want to hand off a participatory software and have it fail! we want municipalities to accept it and listen to the voice of people13:17
klariosthe conditions that I was mentioning includes back-end, front-end, and costumer and political support for the software13:18
klariosthat can be things such as choosing wether to have an in-person people's assembly or online voting or census event13:19
klariosor choosing how the organizers can best leverage the data to demand for political or socio economic action. Like taking a participatory budget to a town hall meeting and presenting the town's peoples needs 13:21
freenaThat's right, I also believe that if these areas have specialized people it will be a great help to both nova and jetro web development 13:21
klariosI think so too! we will need all the help we can get 13:21
klariosespecially when figuring out the back end of thigns13:21
klariosthings*13:21
jkollieSounds like a great plan 13:22
klariossuch as building an instance with an independent database that can be easily deployable13:22
klariosso our roles for now is to do research of how we can apply that to the next system studies13:23
klariosteach ins 13:23
klarioshow do other municipalities do it and what works13:24
klariosand doesn't13:24
klariosI invite you both to look over the barcelona or helsinki instance13:24
klarioshttps://www.decidim.barcelona/13:24
freenaSure 13:25
jkollieAlright13:25
klarioshttps://omastadi.hel.fi/?locale=en13:25
klariosthey are both very sucessful 13:26
klariosso getting to the more concrete part. I think It would be a good idea for us to do reasearch in our designated areas13:26
klariosfreena: I notice you take on both front and back end 13:27
klariosjkollie: I notice you take on front end13:27
klariosand I take on costumer support 13:27
jkollie+113:27
klariosthere are extensive guides out there. A lot are maintained and others aren't 13:27
freenaThat's right, so how and what can we imply that to our decidim platform 13:28
klariosour goal is to have components that work, front end that is easy to navigate, and costumer support that allows for the easy use of decidim 13:28
klarioswe can use our decidim platform to test all of our research 13:29
freenaI think we have only been participants or practicing customer support for the past times 13:29
klariossuch as adding maps, adding html blocks, adding plugins13:29
klarioswe've only been using it as participants and we don't have much experience with support because we have a small organization 13:30
klariosorganizers are very intentional of how they use decidim and the things that they use13:30
freenaSure 13:32
klariosnow in terms of streams of revenue we only have a proposed budget of 5 thousand dollars that has not yet been confirmed13:32
klarioswe will meet with ben and guillaume to discuss that soon13:32
jkollieAnd now we need to do research on component that we can use to add maps, add html and plugins  right?13:32
klariossure! I have a suggestion13:33
klarioslook through this page: https://github.com/decidim-ice/.github13:33
jkollieOkay 13:33
klariosevery single instance or plug in that is known of decidim is in there13:33
klariosI suggest you look into a company or project like open source politics to see how they do it 13:34
freenaMake sense 13:34
klariosfor me. I will wait to meet with ben and VOCA to start my tasks. Mostly because I will have more direction 13:34
jkollie+113:35
klariosI will relay back to you all once I have that meeting13:35
klariosfor now we should choose how often we want to meet13:35
freenaSure 13:35
freenaLet's select a day and time than 13:35
klariosI say weekly or 2x a week is good with me13:35
klariosi think weekly works best though because I have class with shallon 13:36
jkollieI'll prefer weekly 13:36
freenaAlright 13:36
freenaIt's a deal than 13:36
klariosgreat! our meetings should have space to be long13:36
klariosjust because we will be presenting our front end or backend findings13:37
klariosand trying to test them somehow13:37
jkollieOkay so what Time of the day ?13:37
klarioswe can do 9: am, its an hour before I have to take my train so it works for me13:38
klariosmy time btw13:38
klariosthat would be 1pm?13:38
klariosutc13:38
klariosit may interfere with lunch hour! i apologize13:38
klarioswe can meet after if you'd prefer?13:39
freenaThat will be after our standup meeting 13:39
klariosyep!13:39
jkollie1 pm it's okay 13:39
freenaThe time is perfect klarios 13:39
klariosokay sounds good then! 13:39
freenaThanks klarios 13:40
freena!agenda 13:40
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klariosI suggest you also look into this project, its pretty cool: https://github.com/Platoniq/decidim-module-decidim_awesome13:40
klariosI think that is all from me. I've got to head to the bus station now13:40
freenaAlright 13:40
jkollieThanks a lot klarios 13:41
freenaThanks alot klarios 13:41
klariosthank you for coming and thank you jkollie for expressing interest in our cause13:41
freenaAnd have a great day too13:41
klariosit is a pleasure to work with you both13:41
klarios!13:41
freenaSame here klarios 13:41
jkollieThe pleasure is mine 13:41
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freenaSee you jkollie 13:41
jkollieTake care freena 13:42
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