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| svaye | Good afternoon thomasboimah | 12:21 |
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| thomasboimah | Good afternoon svaye | 12:21 |
| svaye | thomasboimah: I need you help to put my unofficial transcript on a web server. | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | Which on of the server are you talking about? | 12:22 |
| svaye | *Your | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | *one* | 12:23 |
| svaye | Jeff said any sever that you have access to put a pdf document on. | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | svaye, let work around that today | 12:24 |
| thomasboimah | when you will ready | 12:25 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 12:25 |
| svaye | Alright, anytime you're ready thomasboimah | 12:25 |
| thomasboimah | OKay | 12:25 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, do you have access to an http server? | 12:26 |
| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 12:26 |
| jelkner | good afternoon svaye | 12:26 |
| thomasboimah | I have to check that out jelkner | 12:26 |
| thomasboimah | I guest i have | 12:26 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, with the postgresql machines we just added for sjcompute, we are adding *yet another* server! | 12:27 |
| thomasboimah | Since i have all the password for novawebdevelopment server | 12:27 |
| jelkner | we need to manage these | 12:27 |
| thomasboimah | ON bitward | 12:27 |
| jelkner | i am really hoping you three devs at jetro will take control of managing this for us | 12:27 |
| svaye | Jelkner downloaded the unofficial transcript already, thomasboimah will help me to put it on a server today. | 12:27 |
| jelkner | to keep track of our machines, know which ones we have, and get rid of those we're not using any more. | 12:28 |
| freena | Good morning jelkner | 12:28 |
| jelkner | all of this was done by Stefan and Adrian | 12:28 |
| jkollie | Good morning jelkner | 12:28 |
| jelkner | and no one has effectively done it since | 12:28 |
| jelkner | we need to get back to a place where we are in control of our resources | 12:28 |
| jelkner | i've been waiting a long time for that | 12:28 |
| freena | Good afternoon thomasboimah and svaye | 12:29 |
| jelkner | but i think we are getting close to where you have the skills to do it | 12:29 |
| jkollie | Good afternoon thomasboimah , freena and svaye | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | Good afternoon freena and jkollie | 12:29 |
| klarios | good morning jelkner good afternoon all! | 12:29 |
| gabriel_jetro | Good afternoon everyone | 12:29 |
| svaye | Good afternoon freena jkollie and gabriel_jetro | 12:29 |
| svaye | Good morning klarios | 12:29 |
| gabriel_jetro | Good afternoon svaye | 12:30 |
| klarios | good afternoon svaye | 12:30 |
| freena | jelkner: I spoke with Mr. Zawolo | 12:30 |
| freena | Good morning klarios | 12:30 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i looked into my plans for developing an SE business curriculum, and spoke with cjones about dev plans. Today i will start to look into what cjones and i discussed. No blockers. | 12:30 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:30 |
| freena | Yesterday I did some practice on graphic design and Today I will be working with klarios on the decidim test server | 12:32 |
| freena | No blocker | 12:32 |
| freena | ACTION done | 12:32 |
| klarios | Today I meet with freena and jkollie to do some plug-in testing on the test decidim server, our only blocker is that we think the email service is not working. I will email tony about it. Today I also meet with the Nova Vasen group at the presbyterian church, I am excited to talk about NWD's progress | 12:32 |
| thomasboimah | Yesterday, I spent time reading the Django documentation while waiting for klarios to review the site with Ms. Scholl and her team to get their feedback. Today, I plan to continue developing my skills until I hear from Klarios about what Ms. Scholl said regarding the site. I’m hoping to complete the site soon so I can go back in working with Chris. No blocker. | 12:33 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 12:33 |
| klarios | additionally I am look at our other option for double entry book-keeping (akaunting) and will see if i can self host it and test it out | 12:33 |
| jkollie | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/w5Iq6u2D | 12:33 |
| klarios | ACTION done | 12:33 |
| jkollie | I wasn't able to add to the testing server yesterday since we are still trying to fix the login issue. | 12:33 |
| jkollie | I'm hoping we get that done as soon as possible | 12:33 |
| jkollie | So I can get to work. | 12:33 |
| svaye | Yesterday I tried downloading gnucash and realised I can download it from my software manager, so I am doing that now. I also downloaded my unofficial transcript from the Uopeople portal. Today thomas and I will work on putting it on a server. My blocker is not getting my transcript on a server yet. | 12:33 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 12:33 |
| jkollie | ACTION done | 12:34 |
| klarios | +1 I expect to hear from her today thomasboimah. When I do, I will forward her email | 12:34 |
| thomasboimah | Okay klarios | 12:34 |
| gabriel_jetro | I'm sorry for missing yesterday's meeting, I give freena my excuse. I did complete my UOP assignment yesterday and submit it, today I'll be going over my Django tutorial. No blocker | 12:35 |
| gabriel_jetro | ACTION done | 12:35 |
| mulbah | Good day everyone | 12:35 |
| svaye | Hi mulbah | 12:37 |
| freena | Hello mulbah | 12:37 |
| jelkner | this is your couch speaking | 12:37 |
| jelkner | please don't come into the stand up meeting with "good day..." | 12:37 |
| klarios | I saw cjones email and I wanted to mention that we no longer use decidim to track. Unfortunately its too time consuming and isnt exactly dev friendly. THe stand up meetings are great! we swant to replicate them which is why I liked cjones idea of using the bot! very effective | 12:37 |
| dcammue | Yesterday, I just continued with my html, css and django practice while waiting on jelkner and cjones to tell us what software we will be using for our bookkeeping. Today I will continue with my practice | 12:38 |
| jelkner | instead, realize that your task it to pariticate in the meeting! | 12:38 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 12:38 |
| jelkner | mulbah, just say what you did yesterday, what you plan to do today, and what any blocker might be | 12:38 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, svaye jkollie since you know how to do this | 12:38 |
| jelkner | please teach the others at Jetro | 12:39 |
| jelkner | so all 7 of you have the skill | 12:39 |
| jelkner | this is a discipline | 12:39 |
| jelkner | like doing drills on the football field | 12:39 |
| jelkner | we need to learn the discipline to become an effective team | 12:39 |
| jkollie | +1 jelkner | 12:40 |
| jelkner | stand up meetings start at 12:30 UTC | 12:40 |
| jelkner | and end at 12:40 UTC | 12:40 |
| jelkner | if you are late, just try to blend in | 12:40 |
| jelkner | don't draw attention to yourself | 12:40 |
| jelkner | ok, meeting is over | 12:40 |
| svaye | Good morning cjones | 12:40 |
| jelkner | i had a good conversation with cjones yesterday | 12:41 |
| mulbah | Yesterday I read on Django I learn about Liked Listings and Shortcuts & JSON Response I plan to add it to my project today and also work on Ms. Scholl site | 12:41 |
| freena | jelkner: can I go ahead now?? | 12:41 |
| mulbah | ACTION done | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | Great to see you here cjones! you are hardly welcome. | 12:41 |
| jelkner | and we are ready to move forward with a proposal i sent earlier to him, klarios, thomasboimah | 12:41 |
| cjones | hi all - i'm here early for our next discussion. but glad to see these updates and especially from klarios - i'm glad we aren't duplicating our tracking process =) | 12:42 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro, mulbah i need to ask you know if you are ready to do a real project | 12:42 |
| mulbah | yes I'm | 12:42 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 12:42 |
| mulbah | and Ready to give my very best | 12:43 |
| jelkner | let me give you a basic idea now | 12:43 |
| jelkner | and tell you what i am hoping will happen | 12:43 |
| mulbah | okay | 12:43 |
| jelkner | i want to hire Jetro web to write a custom ToDo web app in Django for Jetro and NOVA to use together to track our work | 12:43 |
| klarios | thanks cjones, in terms of tracking, perhaps the business team can come up with a couple of user stories for some things we may want | 12:44 |
| jelkner | klarios, we can use this to learn how to write user stories | 12:44 |
| jelkner | how to do agile development | 12:44 |
| jelkner | how to hold customer meetings | 12:44 |
| jelkner | etc. | 12:44 |
| jelkner | we are pushing into new territory for Jetro here | 12:44 |
| klarios | yep yep, structuring it intentionally for agile will make these meetings even more efficient | 12:45 |
| jelkner | but i can tell you i have experience making this process work with Stefan and Adrian | 12:45 |
| jelkner | i hired them to write LibreOrganize and BusinessTracker | 12:46 |
| jelkner | by the end of that, they were pros! | 12:46 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro, mulbah this would be billable work for Jetro | 12:46 |
| jelkner | at our agreed upon rate of $5 per hour | 12:46 |
| jelkner | we will eventually expect unit tests | 12:46 |
| jelkner | but not to start | 12:47 |
| jelkner | since you don't know how to do that yet | 12:47 |
| jelkner | but we want clean code | 12:47 |
| jelkner | not 100s of lines of AI generated crap! | 12:47 |
| jelkner | hand crafted, *only what is asked for* custom code | 12:47 |
| jelkner | got it? | 12:47 |
| mulbah | +1 | 12:47 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 12:48 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro, are you down for this? | 12:48 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes | 12:48 |
| jelkner | lol | 12:48 |
| jelkner | you beat me to it ;-) | 12:48 |
| jelkner | great | 12:48 |
| jelkner | i'll send an email today about how to write a user story | 12:48 |
| jelkner | and then anyone interested can participate with cjones and me in crafting our first user stories | 12:49 |
| freena | Okay jelkner | 12:49 |
| jelkner | anything else on that? | 12:49 |
| cjones | jelkner, these user stories become to-do's. how will we track the todo list for this project? | 12:49 |
| svaye | Alright jelkner | 12:49 |
| freena | +1 | 12:49 |
| jelkner | cjones, let's start small | 12:50 |
| mulbah | for the technology we will be use can we use Tailwind css for the styling or use clean css?? | 12:50 |
| jelkner | we should use issues | 12:50 |
| jelkner | cjones, should we host on codeberg or gitlab? | 12:50 |
| cjones | i'm open to trying codeberg | 12:51 |
| jelkner | ok, let's start there | 12:51 |
| jelkner | user stories will filed as issues | 12:51 |
| jelkner | which can then be tracked through the issue tracker | 12:52 |
| jelkner | no need to add any extra overhead since git hosts already support that workflow | 12:52 |
| cjones | yep codeberg issues sounds great | 12:52 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, mulbah, and gabriel_jetro | 12:52 |
| cjones | i know we were using github before. does everybody already have codeberg accounts? | 12:53 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:53 |
| mulbah | +1 | 12:53 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes jelkner | 12:53 |
| jelkner | one important thing we should allow you all the honor of having | 12:53 |
| jelkner | you need to name this new app! | 12:53 |
| klarios | +1 | 12:53 |
| klarios | ooh we can come up with some good ideas | 12:53 |
| jelkner | before you create a repo, you need to give this new baby an name | 12:53 |
| svaye | Yes | 12:53 |
| jelkner | so can you try to do that by our meeting tomorrow? | 12:53 |
| jelkner | and tell us what you have decided? | 12:54 |
| svaye | jelkner: are you talking to me? | 12:54 |
| jelkner | while i think we should invite everyone to make suggestions | 12:54 |
| jelkner | i think thomasboimah, mulbah, and gabriel_jetro should have the honor of giving their baby a name | 12:55 |
| jelkner | it helps them feel closer to it ;-) | 12:55 |
| cjones | mulbah, i'm open to discussion about tailwind (and any other tools you want to propose), but my vote is going to be no - I think we should try to stick with basic vanilla CSS as long as we can | 12:55 |
| klarios | svaye: since jelkner is a costumer and he will happen to be here to hear most updates, we are also responsible of devliering him updates he isn't here to see or to give him notice of a deliverable which is obtained by checking on mulbah 's and gabriel_jetro 's progress + cjones feedback (in other words, a costumer report) | 12:55 |
| jelkner | and since they will be primarily responsible for nurturing it and helping it grow | 12:55 |
| jelkner | that is very important | 12:56 |
| jelkner | i approve invoices klarios | 12:56 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:56 |
| jelkner | since i'm funding it | 12:56 |
| svaye | klarios: copy that!-:) | 12:57 |
| jelkner | this will give us all practice with this the entire billing cycle | 12:57 |
| klarios | +1 that way the business team is also well-versed on this project + what it takes (in terms of time and money) as well | 12:57 |
| jelkner | we'll discuss it in collaboration | 12:57 |
| jelkner | look at the invoices | 12:57 |
| jelkner | how many hours are being billed for what features | 12:57 |
| jelkner | ask cjones if he thinks they are reasonable hours | 12:58 |
| jelkner | and ask off of us testing it if we think we got the feature we requested in our user story delivered | 12:58 |
| jelkner | and then i'll approve the invoice | 12:58 |
| jelkner | and add it to our transfer for the following month | 12:58 |
| klarios | +1 I agree. This is exciting! | 12:59 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:59 |
| jelkner | sure is | 12:59 |
| jelkner | we're becoming a business! | 12:59 |
| dcammue | That great | 12:59 |
| jelkner | ok, next topic | 12:59 |
| jelkner | accounting software | 12:59 |
| jelkner | i called cjones yesterday to talk about this | 12:59 |
| jelkner | Akounting is a no go | 12:59 |
| jelkner | it isn't free software | 12:59 |
| klarios | awee it looked promising | 13:00 |
| jelkner | it is using the model of having a tiny, feature poor free software hook | 13:00 |
| klarios | gnu cash it is | 13:00 |
| jelkner | and then a propriatory add on SAS model | 13:00 |
| jelkner | you can't even do double entry accounting with the free part | 13:00 |
| jelkner | and it supports only one user | 13:00 |
| jelkner | cjones, can you introduce the other option you found that is FOSS>? | 13:01 |
| cjones | yes. there are a few other options that I thought were cool | 13:01 |
| cjones | https://bigcapital.app/ is the first one | 13:01 |
| cjones | this looks like everything akaunting was promising to be, and has pretty good reviews | 13:02 |
| cjones | it also has an easy installation process (akaunting looked like it would be very annoying to install) | 13:02 |
| svaye | cjones: also mentioned big capital klarios | 13:02 |
| klarios | yep taking a look at it right now svaye | 13:03 |
| cjones | it wouldn't be hard for us to setup both - bigcapital and a db server for gnucash. then you all could compare | 13:03 |
| klarios | it looks very promising as well! | 13:03 |
| cjones | the question is if you have time to properly investigate both. I imagine it's a few hours of tinkering to properly investigate a tool like this. do you want to spend a few hours now investigating this + a few hours investigating gnucash? Or start with one, work on it until you hit a limit, and then ivestigate switching? | 13:04 |
| klarios | ive never used docker for self host before but I can give it a try | 13:04 |
| dcammue | So meaning, gnucash is better than akaunting | 13:04 |
| jelkner | cjones, this brings us smack up against our infrastructure issue again | 13:05 |
| cjones | I think the plan is that jelkner and I will take care of the setup of whatever tool we choose. no need for you to learn docker yet klarios | 13:05 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:05 |
| jelkner | so we have a new nanode purchased by sjcompute | 13:05 |
| klarios | thanks cjones ! I will eventually learn it in my classes and that will be its own time consumption | 13:05 |
| jelkner | i would love to take down a nova web server or two to offset the cost of that | 13:06 |
| klarios | but it wont take over business time or focus away | 13:06 |
| jelkner | otherwise, we just keep adding to our overhead | 13:06 |
| cjones | there are also a bunch of tools called "enterprise resource planning" that include inventory, CRM, etc and have accounting features. there are some popular foss options, but they looked like overkill to me | 13:06 |
| jelkner | not sustainable | 13:06 |
| jelkner | so we need to decide where we will host these things | 13:06 |
| jelkner | and we need to decide where we will host the new ToDo app | 13:06 |
| jelkner | cjones, more than one thing can be hosted on the same machine | 13:07 |
| jelkner | i was thinking a small Django app like our ToDo app could be hosted on the postgresql server | 13:07 |
| jelkner | along with using the database as a backend for gnucash | 13:07 |
| jelkner | does that make sense? | 13:07 |
| cjones | yep that sounds right to me | 13:08 |
| klarios | ahh thomasboimah was doing some cleaning up of the servers and he figured he could move a couple and remove nanodes. We may have a free one | 13:08 |
| klarios | ahh you could do that too jelkner | 13:08 |
| jelkner | cjones, since i think gnucash is the most long term, stable option, and thus has the highest probability of success, you and i should work on that. | 13:09 |
| jelkner | if thomasboimah and klarios could free up two nanodes from the novaweb side | 13:09 |
| jelkner | they could delete one, and use the other to explore setting up big capital? | 13:09 |
| jelkner | thoughts? | 13:10 |
| mulbah | cjones have you check ERPNext | 13:10 |
| jelkner | give us a url mulbah | 13:10 |
| cjones | yes erpnext is one if the ERP tools i was talking about | 13:10 |
| thomasboimah | I did that during the past weeks jelkner | 13:10 |
| jelkner | did we delete some machines? | 13:10 |
| thomasboimah | Just check the past log you will see my update on that | 13:10 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:11 |
| jelkner | nice! | 13:11 |
| cjones | jelkner, can the psql server handle the psql database, todo app, and bigcapital? Those all don't sound too difficult, and probably won't be running concurrrently | 13:11 |
| mulbah | https://cloud.frappe.io/marketplace/apps/erpnext | 13:11 |
| cjones | (* too resource intensive) | 13:11 |
| jelkner | you're the db guy cjones | 13:11 |
| jelkner | you tell me | 13:11 |
| jelkner | ;-) | 13:11 |
| mulbah | It is a monolith includes the following areas for managing businesses: Accounting · Warehouse Management · CRM · Sales · Purchase · HRMS ... | 13:11 |
| cjones | i say put them all on the same server. and if we start hitting too much resource contention we can think about splitting them up | 13:12 |
| jelkner | overkill for us mulbah | 13:12 |
| jelkner | for now anyway | 13:12 |
| jelkner | it doesn't match our small, easy to host and easy to learn requirements | 13:12 |
| jelkner | +1 cjones | 13:12 |
| jelkner | let's do it | 13:12 |
| jelkner | cjones, we need to decide on a web server | 13:13 |
| jelkner | so we can host multiple domains on that machine | 13:13 |
| cjones | you know my vote - caddy =) | 13:13 |
| mulbah | I can share a tutorial it's not hard to learn | 13:13 |
| jelkner | you're the man, cjones, caddy it is! | 13:13 |
| jelkner | do you want to set that up? | 13:13 |
| klarios | mulbah: its similar to odoo which was too much for us | 13:14 |
| klarios | our operations are at that level yet | 13:14 |
| klarios | but we want to consider these tools | 13:14 |
| jelkner | tomorrow after our daily meeting, i'll point [todo app name].sjcompute.org to that same machine | 13:14 |
| jelkner | cjones, do you want to set up caddy or do you want to assign me to do it | 13:15 |
| jelkner | ? | 13:15 |
| cjones | i can setup caddy. when do we need it by? | 13:15 |
| jelkner | well, by monday of next week i'd say | 13:15 |
| cjones | and did we decide that you do want to explore bigcapital? | 13:15 |
| jelkner | i don't have the bandwidth for that | 13:16 |
| jelkner | so it would be up to dcammue svaye klarios | 13:16 |
| jelkner | if they want to | 13:16 |
| jelkner | i'll focus on gnucash | 13:16 |
| jelkner | since i'm betting on that | 13:16 |
| klarios | lets stick to one first | 13:16 |
| klarios | the accountants will see how they like it | 13:16 |
| svaye | I'll say we stick with gnucash for now jelkner | 13:17 |
| cjones | ok, so for now caddy is just handling psql and the todo app | 13:17 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:17 |
| jelkner | actually only the todo app | 13:17 |
| jelkner | psql doesn't require httpd | 13:17 |
| jelkner | that's what we'll be looking into | 13:18 |
| cjones | ok | 13:18 |
| jelkner | how to connect gnucash directly to a postgresql database server | 13:18 |
| jelkner | not through the web | 13:18 |
| cjones | the psql connection for looks a bit tricky. looks like it only wants to accept connection strings at localhost. jelkner did you already have a plan for that? | 13:18 |
| jelkner | ah | 13:19 |
| jelkner | i didn't realize that | 13:19 |
| cjones | based on my 5 mins of googling yesterday, looks like people use ssh tunnels to connect | 13:19 |
| jelkner | that's a potential show stopper | 13:19 |
| freena | jelkner: you said that you were going to talk to jkollie and I about the open street map | 13:19 |
| jelkner | i'll do research today | 13:19 |
| jelkner | and we can revisit this discussion tomorrow | 13:19 |
| jelkner | i'll document what i find | 13:19 |
| cjones | ok | 13:19 |
| thomasboimah | cjones, After I complete Ms. Scholl website Can I go back to working with you from where we stop or i should Give you sometime until you and jelkner can be done with your project? | 13:20 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, cjones and i talked about this yesterday | 13:20 |
| jelkner | since we are off for the Summer | 13:21 |
| jelkner | we don't have access to the customers for the reservation system | 13:21 |
| jelkner | cosmotology and culinary | 13:21 |
| jelkner | cosmetology ;-) | 13:21 |
| jelkner | anyway, best to put those on hold until school starts again | 13:21 |
| thomasboimah | OKay than i guest i will continue learning on my own for now | 13:21 |
| thomasboimah | And also take so time to pick on mulbah and gabriel_jetro | 13:22 |
| jelkner | no, my dear friend, we will be relying on you to help with the ToDo app! | 13:22 |
| thomasboimah | *some* | 13:22 |
| jelkner | you need to help build your team | 13:22 |
| jelkner | so that all three of you can collaborate effectively on a larger scale project | 13:22 |
| jelkner | that's what we need | 13:22 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else before we go? | 13:23 |
| freena | +1 | 13:23 |
| jelkner | plus, thomasboimah | 13:23 |
| svaye | klarios: | 13:23 |
| jelkner | any other paying customers we get | 13:23 |
| jelkner | you will have to handle them | 13:24 |
| jelkner | Maryland Latino Caucus | 13:24 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 13:24 |
| jelkner | for example | 13:24 |
| klarios | given the projects we have to give thomasboimah enough room for Md latino Caucus and others | 13:24 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:24 |
| jelkner | freena, what else do you have? | 13:24 |
| freena | I spoke with Mr. Zawolo this morning | 13:25 |
| jelkner | nice! | 13:25 |
| jelkner | do tell | 13:25 |
| freena | He said the he will be in Liberia from August 3-19 | 13:26 |
| svaye | klarios: do you have anything for me to work on before we meet tomorrow? | 13:26 |
| jelkner | freena, i will see him on July 30 | 13:26 |
| freena | Oh, okay | 13:26 |
| jelkner | since we are going to Fredericksburg together | 13:26 |
| klarios | yep, we will be looking into our linodes to-do items svaye | 13:26 |
| klarios | also the namecheap account | 13:26 |
| klarios | and others | 13:26 |
| jelkner | i plan to give him SJC money that day | 13:26 |
| jelkner | to bring to you | 13:26 |
| jelkner | so we can avoid the transfer fees | 13:27 |
| klarios | our main need is to cut our spendings | 13:27 |
| jelkner | +1 klarios | 13:27 |
| jelkner | since y'all need the money!!! | 13:27 |
| jelkner | we can't waste it!!! | 13:27 |
| freena | So what's the next plan jelkner ?? | 13:27 |
| jelkner | every dollar we save can go directly to you | 13:27 |
| svaye | klarios: how can I get access to those? | 13:28 |
| jelkner | freena, i am hoping you will get an office while mr. zawolo is there | 13:28 |
| jelkner | get something decent, freena | 13:28 |
| klarios | thomasboimah: or I can give you access, but for tomorrow I will give you access | 13:28 |
| jelkner | i'll be staying with you there the following Summer | 13:28 |
| freena | Sure jelkner | 13:28 |
| jelkner | and i'm old and require a little comfort ;-) | 13:28 |
| klarios | in fact I am making a new developers account on the bitwarden since the other one we cannot access | 13:29 |
| jelkner | klarios, make a new one | 13:29 |
| klarios | +1 | 13:29 |
| freena | jelkner: how much will you be sending by Mr. Zawolo?? | 13:29 |
| jelkner | and delete the old one | 13:29 |
| jelkner | not sure freena | 13:29 |
| jelkner | you should talk to him | 13:29 |
| jelkner | about what is required | 13:29 |
| jelkner | i believe he promised to split the cost with me | 13:29 |
| jelkner | i'm counting on that | 13:29 |
| jelkner | so ask him | 13:30 |
| freena | Okay, I will do that today | 13:30 |
| jelkner | i remember him telling me he would do that | 13:30 |
| jelkner | but i have nothing in writing ;-) | 13:30 |
| jelkner | and one saying in business is: | 13:30 |
| jelkner | A verbal agreement is worth the paper it is written on!" ;-) | 13:31 |
| jelkner | ok, until tomorrow everyone | 13:31 |
| jelkner | i want to get to work | 13:31 |
| klarios | until tomorrow then jelkner | 13:31 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until tomorrow | 13:32 |
| klarios | I will have notes for todays vasen meeting | 13:32 |
| svaye | Have a wonderful day jelkner | 13:32 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, | 13:32 |
| freena | jelkner: | 13:32 |
| jelkner | oops | 13:32 |
| jelkner | looks like i can't go yet... | 13:32 |
| jelkner | what's up thomasboimah and freena | 13:32 |
| thomasboimah | freena, go first | 13:32 |
| freena | What about the salary?? | 13:32 |
| jelkner | what about it? | 13:33 |
| thomasboimah | Oh freena that is what was on my mind | 13:33 |
| jelkner | great | 13:33 |
| jelkner | you are both thinking independently together | 13:33 |
| jelkner | that's collaboration | 13:33 |
| jelkner | look, i don't know the best way to handle this | 13:34 |
| thomasboimah | it is the salary you going to split with Mr. zawolo | 13:34 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 13:34 |
| thomasboimah | or the rent I'm confuse | 13:34 |
| jelkner | no thomasboimah | 13:34 |
| jelkner | he never agreed to that | 13:34 |
| jelkner | if i understand what he told me, he would split the cost of the apartment in Fenell | 13:34 |
| thomasboimah | ahh okay | 13:35 |
| jelkner | freena should try to clarify that with him | 13:35 |
| jelkner | but let me tell you want i want regarding the salary | 13:35 |
| freena | Sure | 13:35 |
| jelkner | i want to end the salary within 6 months | 13:35 |
| jelkner | and replace it with billable work | 13:35 |
| jelkner | in other words | 13:35 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 13:35 |
| jelkner | i want you to get to the point where you can bill for all the money that SJC sends | 13:36 |
| jelkner | once we get there, you have a sustainable model | 13:36 |
| jelkner | i can only afford a max of $1K per month in any case | 13:36 |
| jelkner | so until we get outside funding, we can't go above that | 13:36 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 13:36 |
| jelkner | but in 6 months, i want invoices for all of that $1K | 13:37 |
| freena | Sure | 13:37 |
| jelkner | in can then fluctuate a little | 13:37 |
| jelkner | say between $900 and $1200 | 13:37 |
| jelkner | based on your invoices | 13:37 |
| freena | We are working hard to get the necessary skill and start doing billable with 4 to 5 months time | 13:38 |
| jelkner | then we will have the confidence to look for other customers like Ms. Shoal | 13:38 |
| freena | You will definitely get an invoice jelkner | 13:38 |
| jelkner | or however you spell her name | 13:38 |
| jelkner | last thing | 13:38 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, please help svaye and dcammue put their unofficial transcripts on a web server somewhere | 13:39 |
| jelkner | i want to download them with wget | 13:39 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 13:39 |
| jelkner | like in my email yesterday | 13:39 |
| jelkner | that's a skill i want you to have | 13:39 |
| jelkner | it will allow us to easily scare large files that way | 13:39 |
| jelkner | we don't want to use email for that | 13:39 |
| jelkner | since attachments quickly fill up your quota | 13:40 |
| jelkner | whereas this approach we can put very large files in a temporary place, download them, and then remove them, freeing up the space | 13:40 |
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| jelkner | lol not scare, share! | 13:41 |
| freena | If that's the case how many months salary will you send by Mr. Zawolo to avoid the $50USD cut from the bank jelkner ?? | 13:41 |
| jelkner | let me see what i have freena | 13:41 |
| jelkner | not sure yet | 13:41 |
| jelkner | again, i want to see your books | 13:41 |
| freena | Okay jelkner | 13:42 |
| jelkner | i need to know that you have been accumulating savings in your account each month | 13:42 |
| jelkner | that saving discipline is really important | 13:42 |
| jelkner | it's hard, i know | 13:42 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, dcammue send that to you last month | 13:42 |
| jelkner | especially when you are living on an extreamly tight budget | 13:42 |
| jelkner | i need it each month, thomasboimah | 13:42 |
| jelkner | we need to make that a regular practice | 13:43 |
| thomasboimah | Yep | 13:43 |
| jelkner | and soon, we will have only to refer to our financial statements in gnucash | 13:43 |
| jelkner | that's the goal | 13:43 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else? | 13:43 |
| thomasboimah | -1 for me | 13:43 |
| thomasboimah | svaye, and dcammue | 13:44 |
| freena | -1 for me | 13:44 |
| thomasboimah | when will you guys have thing today? | 13:44 |
| thomasboimah | *time* | 13:44 |
| jelkner | ok all, see you tomorrow, same time, same place | 13:44 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until 12:30 UTC tomorrow | 13:44 |
| svaye | thomasboimah: when will you be free? | 13:44 |
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| thomasboimah | Will you have time to me here today by 4:00pm? | 13:45 |
| thomasboimah | *meet* | 13:45 |
| klarios | freena: jkollie ive got to go by 10:30 my time | 13:45 |
| svaye | +1 | 13:45 |
| klarios | shall we meet now | 13:45 |
| klarios | ? | 13:45 |
| thomasboimah | Okay svaye I will see you here than | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | bye guys | 13:46 |
| jkollie | Okay klarios | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION leaving | 13:46 |
| klarios | bye thomasboimah | 13:46 |
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| klarios | freena: ? | 13:46 |
| klarios | jkollie: you still didnt get the email from our decidim account right? | 13:47 |
| svaye | Have a wonderful day everyone | 13:47 |
| klarios | I will message tony about it, i think its a mail server issue | 13:47 |
| jkollie | Yes | 13:47 |
| klarios | you as well svaye ! see you tomorrow at 11 am my time` | 13:47 |
| freena | Yes klarios | 13:47 |
| svaye | ACTION signs off | 13:48 |
| klarios | that alright you dont need an acount on the interface to access the test server | 13:48 |
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| klarios | just wanted to check if you were up for meeting now until 10:30 my time | 13:48 |
| klarios | I would say access the account through ssh through studio code | 13:49 |
| klarios | but we dont have to do that now | 13:49 |
| klarios | for now lets just ssh into the server | 13:49 |
| klarios | using visual studio code | 13:49 |
| freena | Klarios | 13:49 |
| klarios | yes freena ? | 13:50 |
| freena | Shall we go ahead now | 13:50 |
| freena | klarios: | 13:51 |
| freena | Klarios | 13:52 |
| klarios | yes | 13:52 |
| klarios | sorry I was checking bitwarden | 13:53 |
| klarios | first good step would be to open the project from gitlab | 13:53 |
| klarios | do you have gitlab accounts? freena jkollie | 13:53 |
| jkollie | No I don't | 13:54 |
| klarios | okay https://gitlab.com/ | 13:54 |
| klarios | make an account | 13:54 |
| klarios | and send me the username you made | 13:54 |
| klarios | I will add you to the decidim project on gitlab | 13:55 |
| freena | I do | 13:55 |
| freena | Sorry I don't | 13:55 |
| klarios | I know thomas added your ssh key | 13:55 |
| klarios | but I can also add your ssh key here as well so that you have no issues going in | 13:55 |
| freena | Okay | 13:56 |
| freena | Klarios | 14:00 |
| klarios | were you able to create an account? | 14:00 |
| klarios | what's up freena ? | 14:01 |
| freena | I wasn't able to create and account | 14:02 |
| freena | I think that's the major problem now | 14:02 |
| jkollie | Kolliejanet is the user name | 14:03 |
| jkollie | I just created the account | 14:03 |
| freena | I have a git account klarios | 14:03 |
| klarios | okay no worries | 14:04 |
| klarios | did you get an error | 14:04 |
| klarios | ? | 14:04 |
| freena | fkoikoi my username | 14:04 |
| klarios | since you are not on gitlab I cant invite you, but you have git so every change you make will be recorded on the server that runs git (decidim) | 14:05 |
| klarios | here paste this on vs code terminal | 14:05 |
| klarios | git@gitlab.com:novawebdevelopment/decidim.git | 14:05 |
| freena | Okay | 14:05 |
| freena | But should we create an account on gitlab?? | 14:06 |
| klarios | yes | 14:06 |
| klarios | it would be good if you did | 14:06 |
| klarios | so that I can add your ssh key | 14:06 |
| jkollie | I just did klarios | 14:06 |
| jkollie | And that's the username I send few minutes ago | 14:07 |
| freena | I'm creating one now | 14:07 |
| klarios | yep I invited you jkollie | 14:07 |
| jkollie | Okay | 14:08 |
| klarios | you should be able to see all the projects | 14:08 |
| klarios | there is a search bar | 14:08 |
| klarios | you can type in decidim | 14:08 |
| klarios | its the first thing that will come up | 14:08 |
| jkollie | I'll do that later today and message you on Telegram my machine is off I'm using my phone right now | 14:10 |
| freena | I just created an account klarios | 14:11 |
| klarios | great whats the user? | 14:12 |
| freena | freenakoikoi my username | 14:12 |
| klarios | okay lets make a group chat with only freena jkollie and I | 14:12 |
| klarios | to not bother the others as well | 14:12 |
| freena | Okay | 14:13 |
| jkollie | Good idea klarios | 14:13 |
| klarios | okay youve been added freena | 14:13 |
| klarios | Now I will most likely need your ssh keys. Your public key of course | 14:14 |
| klarios | you can send those through email | 14:14 |
| klarios | as long as you have them password protected | 14:14 |
| freena | Should we do that now?? | 14:15 |
| klarios | yep | 14:15 |
| klarios | better now than later | 14:15 |
| klarios | you can also add your own ssh keys | 14:15 |
| klarios | if you go on settings | 14:16 |
| klarios | user settings | 14:16 |
| klarios | and go down | 14:17 |
| klarios | there is a ssh key option | 14:17 |
| klarios | https://gitlab.com/-/user_settings/ssh_keys | 14:17 |
| klarios | so if you are hosts I can just copy paste the hosts key and add it to known hosts | 14:18 |
| klarios | since jkollie cant do this | 14:18 |
| klarios | lets wait until next time to do it | 14:18 |
| klarios | I can't meet tommorrow since i meet with svaye | 14:18 |
| klarios | freena: you should come to that meeting as well! | 14:18 |
| klarios | its at 11 am my time | 14:18 |
| freena | Okay | 14:19 |
| klarios | great | 14:19 |
| klarios | okay all Ive got to head out a bit earlier than proposed | 14:19 |
| klarios | lets continue this Monday | 14:19 |
| klarios | for now try to get your ssh keys in | 14:20 |
| jkollie | Alright | 14:20 |
| freena | I can send you the mail before Monday right?? | 14:20 |
| klarios | and if you do, find the decidim project, press on code, and press on connect ssh through visual studio code | 14:20 |
| klarios | yes | 14:20 |
| freena | Cuz that's what I'm working on now | 14:20 |
| klarios | no worries you can send it now | 14:20 |
| klarios | I wll just be gone until I come back home at 2 pm my time | 14:21 |
| klarios | thank you staying longer! i know we had a long standup meeting | 14:21 |
| freena | Okay | 14:22 |
| klarios | have a great rest of your day | 14:23 |
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| jkollie | Take care freena | 14:24 |
| jkollie | ACTION leaving | 14:24 |
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| svaye | Hey thomasboimah | 15:56 |
| thomasboimah | hi svaye | 15:56 |
| thomasboimah | are you ready now? | 15:56 |
| svaye | Yeah | 15:56 |
| thomasboimah | Okay now open you terminal and type tmate to share your terminal with me | 15:57 |
| thomasboimah | copy the last line you will see and past it here | 15:57 |
| svaye | Give me a minute I am using my phone, because my computer can't connect with hexchat | 15:59 |
| svaye | ssh Pr56KTEXWS8A8ufvHXcrLZRJc@lon1.tmate.io | 16:03 |
| thomasboimah | Okay now just which the terminal see what i am doing okay | 16:04 |
| thomasboimah | witch | 16:04 |
| thomasboimah | svaye, where the the pdf file locate on you computer? | 16:05 |
| svaye | Downloads | 16:05 |
| thomasboimah | svaye, the link you share is wrong | 16:05 |
| thomasboimah | please copy and past the last line you will see when you run tmate in the terminal | 16:06 |
| svaye | Try this | 16:07 |
| thomasboimah | I'm waiting svaye | 16:08 |
| thomasboimah | Please don't close the terminal when you send the link here | 16:09 |
| thomasboimah | leave it opening | 16:09 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION waiting for svaye | 16:10 |
| svaye | Do you mean the web session thomasboimah | 16:13 |
| thomasboimah | no the terminal session | 16:13 |
| thomasboimah | the last line you will see | 16:13 |
| svaye | ssh session: ssh WdKV4u5FNaNQdBUEMdL2cNqNC@lon1. tmate. io | 16:13 |
| thomasboimah | I can i call you on messenger?? | 16:13 |
| thomasboimah | yes this is it | 16:13 |
| thomasboimah | it still now working | 16:14 |
| thomasboimah | i coming let me check something | 16:15 |
| thomasboimah | svaye, please don't closed the terminal when you send the link | 16:16 |
| thomasboimah | that is what coursing the issue | 16:16 |
| svaye | I didn't close the terminal | 16:16 |
| svaye | Will it work if you share your terminal with me | 16:17 |
| thomasboimah | it is your computer the pdf file on svaye not my | 16:17 |
| thomasboimah | can i call you on messenger to see what you are doing?? | 16:18 |
| svaye | I will run it one more time and send you the picture on telegram | 16:18 |
| thomasboimah | send on messenger i have issue with my telegram | 16:18 |
| svaye | Alright | 16:19 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION waiting for svaye | 16:20 |
| svaye | I just sent it | 16:21 |
| thomasboimah | it work now | 16:24 |
| svaye | Is it working thomasboimah ? | 16:24 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah I'm in you terminal now | 16:25 |
| thomasboimah | what is the name of the file? | 16:25 |
| svaye | Academic history | 16:25 |
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| thomasboimah | Please give me a minute | 16:37 |
| svaye | Alright | 16:37 |
| thomasboimah | I'm having issue with the server password i am working on that | 16:39 |
| svaye | Okay | 16:40 |
| thomasboimah | Please type you password | 16:47 |
| thomasboimah | *your* | 16:47 |
| thomasboimah | svaye, | 16:47 |
| svaye | I did | 16:48 |
| thomasboimah | please replace your_email_example with you actural email | 16:53 |
| svaye | It's done | 16:54 |
| thomasboimah | yes we are getting there | 16:57 |
| thomasboimah | The file is on the server now let confirm it | 16:59 |
| svaye | Which server? Can you please send me a link | 17:02 |
| thomasboimah | I am coming svaye | 17:04 |
| thomasboimah | just wait a little bit we are almost there | 17:04 |
| svaye | Okay | 17:05 |
| thomasboimah | svaye, | 17:23 |
| svaye | Yes thomasboimah | 17:23 |
| thomasboimah | you can now access you document through this link: http://173.255.236.139/Shallon_UnofficialTranscript_2025-07-17.pdf | 17:23 |
| thomasboimah | and you can also download it for the terminal using: wget http://173.255.236.139/Shallon_UnofficialTranscript_2025-07-17.pdf | 17:24 |
| thomasboimah | test | 17:24 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION waiting for svaye to confirm that it is working | 17:25 |
| svaye | The network is kinda bad, I am waiting for it to load. | 17:26 |
| svaye | Thanks thomasboimah, it works. | 17:27 |
| thomasboimah | Okay svaye | 17:28 |
| thomasboimah | Bye see you tomorrow | 17:28 |
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