IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Tuesday, 2025-07-29

dcammueGood morning cjones and good afternoon fkoikoi 12:18
fkoikoigreetings dcammue 12:19
dcammueHow is your father condition now?12:19
fkoikoitrying, thanks for asking brother12:21
dcammueYeah 12:22
fkoikoigreetings my dear sis, how are you svaye?12:22
svayeHow are you doing sis fkoikoi 12:23
svayeI am feeling much better today 12:23
fkoikoii'm good and you12:23
dcammuesvaye: did you see the setup I did 12:24
dcammueOn jetroweb gnucash 12:25
svayeI will check it out dcammue 12:25
dcammueOkay svaye 12:25
dcammuefkoikoi: are you back to town 12:26
svayedcammue: do you know why thomas wasn't here yesterday?12:26
fkoikoiyes, since thursday dcammue12:27
fkoikoigood morning jelkner12:27
dcammueYes,  but I really forgot to let Jeff and you guys to know 12:27
svayeGood morning jelkner 12:27
dcammueThomas went to Cape mount12:27
dcammueAbout his mother health issues 12:28
thomasboimahGreeting everyone12:28
dcammueGreeting Thomas 12:28
svayeHi thomasboimah 12:28
svayeHow's your mom feeling now 12:28
dcammueWe were just discussing you Thomas 12:29
thomasboimahShe is trying svaye thanks for asking.12:29
dcammueThank God for her health 12:29
thomasboimahYeah dcammue thanks12:29
gabriel_jetroMy bad, sad to hear, thomasboimah, wish her speedy recovery 🙏🏼12:29
thomasboimahThanks gabriel_jetro 12:30
jelknerYesterday i attended a *very* important meeting with the next system studies tech committee where we discussed using Decidim as our web platform for the upcoming teach-ins. I also started investigating how to back up postgres databases. Today i'm meeting with VASAN folks in Anandale to see a student worker cooperative in action. Blocking on not having psql and pg_dump on the database server.12:30
klariosgood morning jelkner cjones good afternoon everyone else!12:30
fkoikoigood morning klarios 12:30
thomasboimahI returned from Grand Cape Mount County yesterday evening. Today, I plan to complete all of my University of the People assignments. No blocker.12:30
thomasboimahACTION done12:30
jelknerACTION done12:31
svayeYesterday I wasn't feeling well but I am better now. Today I have a business meeting with klarios and I will also keep watching gnucash tutorials.  No blockers. 12:31
svayeACTION done 12:31
dcammueYesterday,  I did a shot practice on gnucash how to export reports today, I will be going over how to import and set schedule transaction in gnucash 12:31
dcammueACTION done 12:31
jkollieyesterday I read and did a research on getting the map service provider setup, I also look at the link jelkner send 12:31
jkollieit actually look smiliar to Decidim, well I didn't go far since it's in spanish.12:31
jkollieToday I'll be doing a pratice on setting the service provider and also reading through the map documentation.12:32
jkollieACTION done12:32
klariosYesterday we had a very important meeting to discuss future plans with decidim, a concrete meeting came from that and it will be on friday, to discuss some deliverables and goals of the project, etc. Today I am meeting with svaye, and I am going to visit an important emerging worker coop. No blockers 12:32
fkoikoiyesterday, i created an account with codeberg and read the maps documentation. today, i will continue and also work with klarios. no blocker for now12:32
klariosACTION done12:32
fkoikoiACTION done12:32
gabriel_jetroYesterday I worked on completing my UOP assignment, "Introduction to Statistics",  I plan on completing my UOP assignment, "College Algebra", today and start practicing for my graded quiz, there's no blocker for now.12:33
gabriel_jetroACTION done 12:33
klariosGreat fkoikoi ! 12:33
klariosjkollie: fkoikoi can we change our meeting time from 11 am to 10 am est on Thursday?12:33
klariosfor decidim12:34
fkoikoisure12:34
jkollieokay klarios12:34
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klariosgreat! ill email a reminder as well thank you!12:34
fkoikoiokay klarios 12:35
jkollieyou are welcome klarios12:35
jelkneris the stand up over?12:36
jelkneranyone not go?12:36
klariosthomasboimah: was Ms scholl able to create a namecheap account?12:36
dcammueOnly Mulbah, but he quite 12:36
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro I was not able to touch my computer during the weekend but i want to ask How far you have gone addressing the comment Chris left on your PR?12:36
jelknerok, meeting over12:36
jelknercan i get everyone's undivided attention for a few minutes please?12:37
fkoikoi+112:37
dcammue+112:37
klarios+112:37
thomasboimahyes klarios her website is now live on https://www.upsilonarlingtondkg.org12:37
jelkneri hate to sound like a broken record, as the saying goes, but i need to12:37
svaye+112:37
thomasboimah+112:37
klariosgreat! thank you thomasboimah . I will show svaye how to make invoices today and you both can work together on making it 12:38
jelknerwe need to focus on getting billable work done, and it seems we are stuck12:38
gabriel_jetrothomasboimah: , Mulbah asked me to work on it, so I'm waiting for he to get true and await jelkner next user story.12:38
jelknerthomasboimah, great to have you back12:38
jelknersince you working on Ms. Scholl's site, which is what i'm talking about12:38
jelknergabriel_jetro and mulbah seem not to be making much progress on ToDo12:39
jelknerthey will probably need your help thomasboimah 12:39
jelknerwhen does the current UoPeople term end?12:39
gabriel_jetrojelkner: I can but Mulbah said he wanted to sort it out that's I'm on hold for now.12:40
jelkneri want to be clear that $400 is a FULL TIME salary12:40
thomasboimahwe have two more weeks12:40
jelkner"on hold" means blocking, gabriel_jetro 12:40
jelknerthat's a problem12:40
gabriel_jetroMy bad...12:40
jelknerwe can't run a business when we're "on hold"12:40
jelknercustomers won't tolerate long delays12:40
jelknerand we can't even get started12:40
jelknerthomasboimah, you only signed up for one class next term, yes?12:41
thomasboimah+112:41
gabriel_jetroIt's just that he's working on my branch and I don't want to get in conflict with his code 12:41
jelkneryou too svaye, right?12:41
jelknerbecause i want to be very clear12:42
jelknerthe two of you getting $400 monthly salaries12:42
jelknerwill be expected to deliver FULL TIME effort12:42
svayeI sent a mail to my advisor about that, because I was automatically registered for two classes and I am awaiting a response jelkner 12:42
gabriel_jetroBut I have much time to give my full attention to it, jelkner 12:42
jelknersvaye, tell her you have a full time job and can only study 1/2 time12:42
svaye*the last two terms12:42
jelknerplease let me know12:43
jelknerit is a requirement of the two full time people that they be full time12:43
svayeI haven't registered yet jelkner,  because I don't want a misunderstanding, I will email you when I am done12:43
jelknerand that means we can assign them major responsibilities12:43
jelknerand expect that they will deliver12:44
jelknerwe are all depending on this being successful12:44
jelknerok, next topic12:44
jelknerdcammue and svaye, can i send you a check?12:44
jelknermade out to Jetro Web Development?12:44
svayeNope 12:44
jelknerdrats12:44
dcammueYesterday I got informed from the bank 12:45
jelknerthanks12:45
jelkneri'll make out the check to Mr. Zawolo so he can cash it before he goes12:45
dcammueThat they can not do check out of the country 12:45
svayedcammue: said the bank can't cash a check that from out the country. 12:45
jelknerok, i will hopefully see him tomorrow12:45
jelknersvaye, dcammue we are going to need to learn more and more about international finance12:46
jelknerso we can figure out how to move money efficiently12:46
jelknerthings are changing in the world around this12:46
jelknerwith new possibilities emerging in some places, like BRICS pay12:46
svayeI think that could work if it was an international bank jelkner 12:47
jelknerwe need to keep an eye on those developments12:47
jelknerahh, svaye 12:47
dcammueYes,  I will check to others bank around me12:47
jelknerthat may be the thing12:47
svayedcammue: we could check with IB12:47
jelkneri am not taking any courses this term (or next) at UoPeople12:47
dcammueYes,  they only for Africa 12:47
jelknerbut the next course i'm supposed to take is international finance12:47
jelkneri'm thinking of taking it in the term before i come next Summer12:48
jelknerso that i can use it to study our particular needs12:48
dcammueOnly transfer works well for  the UBA12:48
jelknerdcammue, we spent $250 already on transfers12:48
jelknerthat's A LOT for a little business like ours12:48
jelkneri hate capitalists12:48
dcammueMaybe Central Bank of Liberia could work out12:49
jelknerthey always want to robe from the poor and give to the rich12:49
dcammueFor the check 12:49
klariosunfortunately the only way I see it working right now is through crypto jelkner 12:49
jelknerthey're evil, and thy SUCK!12:49
jelknerklarios, crypto seems very unreliable to me12:49
svayedcammue: it's not possible for us to have an account with central bank12:49
jelknerfor now, we pay the rich pig basters12:49
klarioshaving a dedicated wallet for jetro and sending over crypto to them12:50
jelknerbasterds12:50
jelknerand live with it :-(12:50
jelknerbut we look for a better way in the future12:50
klariosyeah It can be, I wouldnt know too much about it but it could be an answer12:50
jelkneranyway, let's move on12:50
klarios+112:50
jelkneri'll send cash with Mr. Zawolo12:50
jelknerlet's talk about the amount12:51
jelknerthat i plan to send12:51
jelknersince it is tomorrow12:51
jelknerand we need to resolve this now12:51
dcammueBut there are other means of transferring money from the US and around the world.  Some are TAPTAP SEND OTHER APPLICATIONS. through those, is only 10 per transfer 12:51
fkoikoidid you send an mail to Mr. zawolo jelkner,  or are you sure of meeting him tomorrow??12:52
jelknerfkoikoi, mr. zawolo does not respond to my emails12:52
jelknerso i can't really reach him12:52
jelknerbut i believe he will be at the Franconia-Springfield Metro tomorrow at 11 am12:53
jelkneri'll be there12:53
jelkneri've emailed him several times12:53
svayejelkner: do you want me to send him a message to remind him?12:53
jelknerand i strongly believe he will show12:53
jelknerso that's my plan12:53
jelkneri'll be there12:53
jelknerif he doesn't show12:53
jelknerwe'll need to do a wire transfer12:53
jelkneror dcammue, if you can propose another way12:54
jelknerbut it needs to come from the SJCompute bank account12:54
jelknerso i don't think the other methods you mention will work12:54
jelknerwe don't want person to person12:55
jelknerwe want bank to bank12:55
jelkneri really don't understand this well12:55
dcammueOkay, but I do not have to get account with a bank before I do a check right? 12:55
jelknerdcammue and svaye, we will need to learn about it12:55
jelknersince to avoid legal problems, we will need to do proper bookkeeping12:55
jelknerthat's what we are learning now12:56
jelknerbut we have so little experience12:56
jelkneri bet we will make LOTS of mistakes :-(12:56
jelkneras we learn12:56
svayedcammue: the person sending the cheque should have an account 12:56
jelknerthat's the way it is12:56
dcammueYes, because that method is through mobile or orange money 12:56
jelkneranyway, let's move on12:56
klarioswe could try a small amount with crypto jelkner, just to give it a try. I would imagine the wire transfer fee will be higher12:56
dcammueSo it will not reflect on the both records 12:56
klarios+112:57
jelknerhttps://share.mayfirst.org/apps/files/files/39373020?dir=/SocialJusticeComputing/JetroWeb&openfile=true12:57
jelknercan you see this?12:57
fkoikoiMr. zawolo is always active on whatsapp so i think svaye or i can message him today and email you his respond before tomorrow morning just to be sure 12:57
klariosits a folder?12:58
jelknerhmmm12:58
jelknerno a spreadsheet12:58
jelknerfkoikoi, svaye has been messaging him12:58
klariosits blank for me12:58
jelknerhold on12:58
thomasboimahsame here12:58
jelknerhttps://share.mayfirst.org/s/GgwsjrHgotqoKC912:59
jelknerhow about this?12:59
thomasboimahNow this work12:59
fkoikoiMr. zawolo and i are talking now jelkner 13:00
jelknerSo let's discuss this and make sure it is accurate13:00
jelknerfkoikoi, just confirm he will be at the metro at 1113:00
jelknertomorrow13:00
jelknerand i'll talk to him then13:00
fkoikoiokay 13:00
jelknerso, everyone, is the August transfer correct?13:01
fkoikoiklarios, the time today is 2:00 right?13:02
jelknersvaye, dcammue, thomasboimah, can you answer please?13:02
klariosno right after this meeting 13:02
thomasboimah+1 for me jelkner 13:02
fkoikoiokay13:02
jelknerok, i'm including $1000 for the Jetro office13:02
svayeMy Internet is not too good jelkner it's loading 13:02
jelknerthat's not enough, but mr. zawolo said he would cover half13:03
jelknerso i'm counting on him for that13:03
jelknerok, that's all i have for today13:03
jelknerdcammue, i'm trying to figure out how to back up our GnuCash databases13:04
jelkneri need to call cjones about that13:04
svayeThe transfer is correct jelkner 13:04
jelknergreat svaye, thanks13:04
jelknerdcammue, the issue that i'm having is that i don't know how cjones installed postgres on the server13:05
jelknerhe didn't use debian packages13:05
dcammueHmmm13:05
jelknerand psql and pg_dump are not available13:05
thomasboimahjelkner, did you see cjones email yesterday??13:05
dcammueI see13:05
jelkneri forget thomasboimah 13:05
jelknerwhat did it say?13:06
thomasboimahlinode was have issue but everything is resolve now 13:06
thomasboimah*having13:06
dcammueBut I think you can do that on your machine 13:06
jelkneroh yes13:06
jelkneri saw that13:06
jelknerthomasboimah, that is why i can say what i am saying now13:06
jelkneri spent a few hours poking around the server13:06
jelkneri have a shell account13:06
jelknerso i logged in13:06
klariosjelkner: me svaye and fkoikoi have to meet before I leave for springforward13:06
jelknerthomasboimah, we need someone besides cjones who knows what is going on on that server13:07
jelknerit should be you, i think, but not until you are finished this term and can work full time13:07
thomasboimahI am here and is welling to do anything for Jetro13:07
thomasboimah*willing*13:07
jelknerso i guess i'll have to do it for the next few weeks13:07
svayeklarios: we are meeting today and you are going tomorrow right?13:08
jelkneryes, thomasboimah, but you only have so much time13:08
jelknerso finish your classes first13:08
jelknerand then we'll talk13:08
klariosno I am going today at 10:1513:08
thomasboimahOkay13:08
klarioslets meet on NWD channel 13:08
jelknerok, i need to go13:08
gabriel_jetrojelkner: 13:08
dcammueBut what is the issue really jelkner 13:08
klariosope nvm13:08
dcammuejelkner: did you check the jeteoweb gnucash database 13:08
jelkneryes dcammue 13:08
jelknerit works13:08
svayeklarios: same time?13:08
klariosok NWD channel it is right now 13:08
jelknerdcammue, as the server issue shows us13:09
jelknerwe now need to learn to backup our data13:09
jelknerso that if the server goes down again13:09
jelknerwe can recover13:09
jelknerthis is all basic professional IT stuff13:09
jelkneri have a friend who often says, "What are the 5 most important word in the IT industry?"13:10
jelkneranswer:13:10
jelknerDid you back it up?13:10
jelknerLOL13:10
jelknerpay attention to that13:10
jelkner!13:10
jelkneri've put hours of work into setting up the financial records, dcammue 13:10
dcammueOkay 13:10
jelknerif they server goes down13:11
jelknerall that work will be lost13:11
jelknerso now that we know the system works13:11
dcammueYes, jelkner I experienced that too13:11
jelknerwe need to figure out how to back it up13:11
jelkneri'll work with cjones on that now13:11
dcammueSo I hope it doesn't work on my side 13:11
jelknerand teach thomasboimah after his class ends13:11
jelknerhe can then teach you13:11
dcammueOkay 13:11
thomasboimahYes!13:11
jelknerok, gotta go13:11
gabriel_jetrojelkner, can you share the user's story on i and Mulbah so we can get work going that you can't feel frustrated with our progress? I know you think we ain't ready yet, but I can assure you, we're ready. 13:12
jelknergabriel_jetro, you can do that13:12
jelkneri am very busy13:12
jelkneri've written the user story13:12
jelknerit is public13:12
jelknerso you can share it with your co-worker13:12
jelknerdon't come back to the customer all the time asking them to do things13:12
gabriel_jetroApart from the login form, do you have another?13:12
jelknerthey will get annoyed with you13:13
jelknerjust figure it out13:13
jelknergabriel_jetro, thomasboimah knows how to do that13:13
jelknerlearn from him13:13
gabriel_jetroOkay 13:13
jelkneralright everyone13:13
jelknersee you tomorrow at the same time and place13:13
dcammueThanks for today 13:13
jelknerWe are making great progress!13:14
dcammueGood luck in meeting Mr. Zawolo tomorrow 13:14
jelknerACTION signs off for today13:14
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gabriel_jetrothomasboimah:  did you see different user story apart from the login form?13:15
thomasboimahNo gabriel_jetro 13:16
gabriel_jetroHmm13:16
thomasboimahjelkner said that it is one user story at the time13:16
thomasboimahSo we need to finish the first one before he send another13:16
gabriel_jetroBut I'm done with that, and Mulbah said he wants to work on the PR'S.13:17
gabriel_jetroHe's waiting on cjones for review 13:17
gabriel_jetroAnyway see you'll tomorrow.13:18
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, 13:18
gabriel_jetroYes, thomasboimah 13:19
thomasboimahthe work is not done yet, you need to address the comment cjones left on the PR then push and wait for cjones to confirm it13:19
gabriel_jetroBut Mulbah has already cloned my branch and I don't want to override his work, but I'll do that tonight when I get electricity.13:20
thomasboimahdid mulbah push the work?13:21
thomasboimahdid he address cjones comments??13:22
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, i will clone your branch today and see it i can address some of cjones comments on the PR13:23
gabriel_jetroHe said he pushed it and waiting on cjones 13:23
gabriel_jetroI'll also work on it too, thomasboimah 13:23
thomasboimahOkay bro 13:24
thomasboimahsee you tomorrow13:24
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