IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Thursday, 2025-07-31

svayeGood morning freena cjones 10:59
freenaGreetings svaye 11:00
svayehow are you doing?11:00
svayefreena: did you set the meeting schedule yesterday?11:08
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freenaYes svaye 11:48
freenaGo take a look 11:48
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dcammue Good afternoon folks 12:25
freenaHi dcammue 12:25
dcammueGood morning jelkner 12:26
freenaGood morning jelkner 12:26
jelknerGood day everyone12:26
svayeGood morning jelkner 12:26
jelknersvaye, i saw your email12:26
jkollieGood day jelkner12:26
jelknerbut i'm glad you're here12:26
thomasboimahGreeting everyone12:26
jelknerwe urgently need to talk!12:26
jelkneryou too thomasboimah 12:26
jelkneryesterday did not go well12:26
dcammueGood afternoon thomasboimah 12:26
svayejelkner: the trip was cancelled due to heavy rain.12:27
jelknerand we need to figure out what to do about it12:27
jelknerah12:27
svayeGood afternoon dcammue thomasboimah jkollie 12:27
jelknersorry to hear that, but glad you're here12:27
jkollieHi svaye12:27
dcammuesvaye: what trip?12:28
gabriel_jetroGreetings everyone 😊12:28
mulbahGood morning and afternoon12:29
svayedcammue: my dad and I had a trip today, but it was cancelled last minute due to heavy rain.12:29
jelknerYesterday i wasted half the day traveling for a meeting that didn't happen. I did make progress with copying postgres database however, so all is not lost. Today i will continue setting up financial accounts for SECOSOL. Blocking on communicating with Mr. Zawolo.12:30
jelknerdcammue, READ YOUR EMAIL! ;-)12:30
dcammueYesterday,  I read on reconciling transactions in gnucash and today I will be learning how to end an accounting period.  No blockers 12:30
jelknerACTION done12:30
thomasboimahYesterday, I was able to take my University of the People grade quiz. I also communicated with Mulbah, explaining to him how pull requests (PRs) work. Additionally, I worked on Ms. Scholl's request for her website, and I plan to publish it today and email her back. No blockers.12:30
thomasboimahACTION done12:30
dcammueACTION done12:30
jkollieesterday I was not able to work and get online because I wasn't feeling too well in my body.12:30
jelknersorry to hear that jkollie 12:31
jkollieToday i'll start with the map documentation and also do a research on how does 12:31
jkollieadding HTML content and a map link with vscode.12:31
freenaYesterday, I practice html and css and completed the task that klarios give me yesterday. Today I plan to continue my practice. No blocker for now 12:31
svayeYesterday I learned how to create vendors and customers accounts on gnucash. Today I will move on with split transactions. No blockers. 12:31
jelkneri need to ask you about "map documentation", since i don't know what that is12:31
freenaACTION done 12:31
jkollieit's okay jelkner, feeling a bit better12:31
jelknergood to hear that jkollie!12:32
mulbahYesterday I push to the PR and get a feedback form cjones and I work on and plan to push it today when I discuss with cjones12:32
jelkneryes you did, mulbah, great work!12:32
svayeACTION done12:32
mulbahACTION done12:32
jelkneronly missing gabriel_jetro 12:33
mulbahjelkner do you know if cjones will be joining us today12:33
jelkneri do not mulbah 12:33
jelknerdon't expect him in general12:33
jelkneruse email12:33
mulbahokay12:33
jelknergabriel_jetro, are you going to go?12:34
jelknerhearing nothing, the stand up meeting is over12:34
jelknerok jetro, please let me have everyone's attention12:34
gabriel_jetroYesterday I finally completed my UOP assignment and had a conversation with Mulbah about Mr. Jone PR's, the blocker is that he talks about the home page which jelkner only asks to work on a login page.12:35
gabriel_jetroACTION done 12:35
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, 12:35
jelkneryou have some important decisions to make12:35
jelknerand even though you are young12:35
jelkneryou will need to learn to make these important decisions if you are going to succeed with your business12:36
jelkneryesterday klarios and i wasted a lot of time12:36
jelknerwe took the train to the place where we were supposed to meet Mr. Zawolo, but he never showed12:36
jelknerhe also didn't answer his phone12:36
thomasboimahhe was just saying that the login page should show up as soon as you run the code. not to type account/login before you see it.12:36
jelknerthomasboimah, please pay attention to the discussion i am having12:37
thomasboimahOkay12:37
jelknerdon't engage in side conversations now12:37
jelknersince i know y'all want the funds transferred12:37
jelknerand without your input, we have a problem12:37
jelkneri still have the check made out to Mr. Zawolo12:38
jelknerand i have not effective way of communicating with him12:38
jelknersvaye, i believe you have the closest relationship with Mr. Zawolo among your group, yes?12:38
svayeYeah12:39
svayefreena: also has a good relationship with him.12:39
jelkneri think we need to ask you to be in charge of this12:39
jelkneryes, freena was developing a relationship too12:40
jelknerbut svaye, since you are the staff person now, this task belongs to you12:40
jelknermake sense?12:40
dcammueSo that means he left the U.S already without hitting you up?12:40
svayeYes12:40
jelknerthat's part of the responsibility that comes with the job12:40
jelknerdcammue, i don't think he left12:40
jelknerbut he doesn't respond to my texts or emails12:40
jelkneror answer my phone calls12:41
jelknerso i have no way to communicate with him12:41
freenaHe hasn't left yet 12:41
jelknerduring the school year i can just walk over to his classroom12:41
jelknerbut it is Summer now12:41
jelknerand i can't do that12:41
jelknerwe have very important decisions to make that are dependent on his input12:41
dcammueWhat about his resident?12:42
jelknerso without the ability to communicate with him, i feel a bit lost12:42
jelknerdcammue, he lives many miles from me12:42
jelknerand i don't have a car12:42
jelknerhe lives in Charles County, Maryland12:42
jelkneri live in Arlington County, Virginia12:42
jelknerlook on an online map12:43
jelknerand you will see they are not that close12:43
jelknerbesides, this situation is unacceptable12:43
jelknerwe can't plan with someone with whom we can not communicate12:43
jelknerit just doesn't work12:43
jelknersimple as that12:43
dcammueWow, so frustrating 12:43
jelknerso i'm stuck12:43
jelkneryes, dcammue, it really is12:44
jelknerlet me tell y'all something else that i told klarios yesterday12:44
dcammueOnly scooper really could communicate with him with ease 12:44
klarioswe should devise a plan 12:44
jelknerif this had happened two years ago, i would have pulled out of this project12:44
klarioswe cant rely on unrealible12:44
jelknersince i started it because of a promise i made to him12:44
jelknerbut now things are different12:45
jelkneri feel an obligation to you 7 Jetro Websters, whether he is involved or not12:45
jelknerso you can count on me to honor that obligation as long as i am able and you do your part12:45
gabriel_jetro+112:46
freena+1 12:46
jelknerthat said, i don't think we can afford an office at this time without his help12:46
jelknerso svaye, if you feel you can do it, it would help us all if you could communicate with him and find out what is going on12:46
dcammueNo! We can jelkner .12:47
jelknerdcammue, NO!, We can't :-(12:47
jelknerhe was going to pay half12:47
svayeI will text him today or give him a call.12:47
jelkneri can't afford the whole thing myself12:47
jelkneri can't12:47
jelknerwe are still not generating revenue12:47
dcammueAt some point you have to stand on your own even if you find on one to help you up12:47
jelknerdcammue, standing on our own here means generating revenue!12:48
jelknerthat means that thomasboimah, mulbah, and gabriel_jetro need to get to the point where they can do lots of websites like Ms. Scholls12:48
jelknerand do them faster12:48
jelknerand bill for them12:48
jelknerit also means that dcammue and svaye will be ready to start charging for monthly bookkeeping for small worker coops12:49
jelknerwe are a year at least from both those things dcammue 12:49
jelknermaybe more12:49
jelknera year if y'all work really hard12:49
thomasboimahWe can still look for place that the $1000 can afford for a year12:49
dcammueWe been doing this without his funds. Yes thomasboimah 12:50
thomasboimahI am show a year from now Jetro will be able to do more billable work12:50
thomasboimahJust a suggestion.12:50
jelknerlook y'all, you are young, i love the suggestions12:50
jelknerbut only experience will help you get ready12:50
jelkneri was talking to klarios about this yesterday too12:51
freenaCan I say something guys???12:51
jelknerwe need to talk alot12:51
dcammue+112:51
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dcammuefreena:  move on12:51
jelknersince you need to learn to think about the concrete conditions we face, what our options are, and which options we should choose12:51
jelknerfreena, please!12:51
jelknerfreena?12:53
jelknerwe're waiting12:53
svayejelkner: you're right we need to start having longer meetings like a coop where we would strategies plans together and not leave all the thinking to you alone.12:53
jelkner+1 svaye!12:53
freenaIn my opinion, while we are not hearing anything from Mr. Zawolo now. I think we should put a hold to the office space for now and let us think of ways to start generating some revenue or doing billable work that will help jelkner and social justice computing with funds 12:53
jelknerfreena, i totally agree with you12:54
freenaThat way we can have our own office by next year if possible 12:54
jelkneryes, freena 12:54
jelknerthat sounds like a great proposal12:54
svayefreena: that's a perfect idea12:54
jelknerwhat do folks think, unless svaye reports back from communicating with mr. zawolo and he says he is still supporting the office project, we postpone it for a year12:55
svaye+112:55
klarios+112:56
freena+1 for me12:56
thomasboimahOkay! that sound like a plan.12:56
jkollie+112:56
jelknerthe thing that i don't like about postponing it is that having an office would be a huge advantage for mulbah in particular12:56
klariosI think it would be crucial to create a budget as well 12:56
jelknersince he would be living there12:56
jelknerso mulbah, you should be speaking up about this12:56
jelknerinstead, you're silent12:56
jelkneranyway, let's give svaye a few days to try to reach mr. zawolo12:57
jelknersvaye, you need to have an open, honest conversation with him12:57
jelknerfind out what he is thinking about all this12:57
jelknerand report back to us12:57
dcammueNot only mulbah,  but having the work flow effective 12:57
jelknercan you do that?12:57
jelknerdcammue, yes sir!12:57
jelkneryou are absolutely right12:58
svayejelkner: I will give him a call so we can have a better conversation.12:58
jelknerthat's why these discussions are so important12:58
jelknerthere are always trade offs in these decisions12:58
jelknerso there is no one "right answer"12:58
jelkneryou have to choose among options that each have pluses and minuses12:59
jelknersuccessful people learn to chose well most of the time12:59
jelknernot alway12:59
jelknernot always12:59
jelknerwe will make lots of mistakes12:59
jelknerbut we will learn to learn from our experience12:59
klariosfreena: youre calling me?12:59
freenaOh, sorry Kei13:00
jelknerok, svaye that's all i have for today13:00
dcammueWhere team members will meet and discuss ideas of handling projects or moving one from a blockers point. Like what the dev team is facing. If there was a office,  Mulbah and Gabriel could meet easily with thomasboimah and word smoothly 13:00
jelknerhopefully svaye can talk to mr. zawolo before tomorrow13:00
jelknerand we can discuss this again then13:00
dcammueOkay jelkner thanks for today 13:00
jelknerit is the end of the month13:00
jelknerif we can't get him to bring funds to you13:01
jelkneri will need to do a wire transfer13:01
svayejelkner: I will do that today and report tomorrow. 13:01
jelknerthat takes several days, as you know13:01
jelknerthanks svaye 13:01
jelknerok all, until tomorrow...13:01
jkollietake care jelkner13:01
jelkneroh wait, one last thing13:01
svayeHave a wonderful day jelkner 13:01
klariosno worries! see ya later today jelkner 13:01
jelknergabriel_jetro, mulbah and thomasboimah, PLEASE continue making regular progress on our ToDo app13:02
jelknerthat is your training to be real developers13:02
mulbahokay13:02
jelknerand we are so fortunate to have cjones guide you13:02
jelknerwhen you can do that13:02
gabriel_jetroOkay 13:02
jelkneryou will be getting close to being ready to take on paying customers13:02
jelknerjkollie, i don't know what you are talking about when you say "mapping"13:03
mulbahI trying to email cjones seh before pushing the work I did on the feedback he give13:03
jelknerklarios, do you know what jkollie is doing?13:03
jelknergreat mulbah!13:03
jelknerdo that please13:03
jkolliesoory I forget about your question jelkner13:03
jelkneri just want to make sure you are not wasting your time13:04
jkolliemap documentation explains how to set up, configure, and utilize maps within your Decidim instance to enhance participatory processes.13:04
jelknerah13:04
klariosjkollie: Is working on decidim plug ins13:04
jelknerperfect!13:04
jelknernever mind then13:04
jelkneryou are doing what you should be doing13:04
klarioswe want to look at the saltillo city instance today13:04
jelknerokie dokie, talk to you all tomorrow...13:05
jelknerklarios, i'll call you in a minute13:05
klariosno jelkner 13:05
jelknerno?13:05
klarioscall me at 1213:05
jelknerok13:05
jelknerwill do13:05
klariosill be meeting with jkollie and the tech coop from industrial commons13:05
jelknerklarios, we are on for our meeting tomorrow!13:05
klariosgreat!13:05
jelknerdid you see his email?13:05
jelknerhe confirmed13:06
klariosnot yet, about to 13:06
thomasboimahmulbah, one of the most importing feedback on the work gabriel_jetro and you did is that the login page should show up as soon as you run the code. not to type account/login before you see it. and that can be done in the setting.py13:06
klariosthat's great@13:06
jelknerACTION signs off until tomorrow13:06
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gabriel_jetroOkay, thomasboimah 13:06
mulbahit can show13:07
klariosfreena: jkollie do you want to stay on this channel?13:08
mulbahI set the root path to the login page13:08
thomasboimahNo mulbah it is not showing13:08
thomasboimahWhen did you do that?13:08
mulbahit's 13:08
dcammueACTION leaving guys. Same time Same place tomorrow 13:09
thomasboimahThis is the four comment you need to address now mulbah : 13:09
thomasboimah    I don't see a gitignore, so your pycache and database are still showing up. Please add that!13:09
thomasboimah    The issue says that the homepage should take you to a login. Right now, the homepage has an error message, and you need to manually type /accounts/login to get to the login screen. Can you make a redirect from the root?13:09
thomasboimah    I'm also getting an error when I click the logout button13:09
mulbahIt's working on my computer13:09
jkollieany channel its okay with me klarios13:09
svayeHave a wonderful day everyone 13:09
klarioslets go on NWD13:09
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mulbahI have that solve first but I didn't commit it 13:09
svayeACTION signs off until tomorrow 13:09
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mulbahso it didn't go the time I was push13:10
mulbahpushing 13:10
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thomasboimahOkay bro i will check that up. and please email Chris and let him know about it13:10
mulbahI fix that I just need to use git command to remove it form the PR before pushing 13:11
thomasboimahRemove what mulbah ?13:11
mulbahthe database and other files that not support to be on the PR13:12
mulbahnot the gitignore file13:13
thomasboimahOkay guys i have to leave now i need to take care of something. If There is anything i can help with i am just a call away.13:15
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