IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Wednesday, 2025-09-17

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thomasboimahGreeting everyone10:57
daniel__Good morning thomasboimah and the rest of the folks10:58
daniel__Good morning jelkner 10:58
jelknerYesterday i spent several hours watching videos about PODER Emma and taking notes in my SE git repo.  Today i will meet with the Solidarity Economy Business Club and talk about SJC bookkeeping needs. Now blockers.10:59
daniel__Yesterday,  I attended my UoPeople class and I did one of my assignments and today I plan to do the last two assignments.  No blockers 11:00
thomasboimahYesterday, I saw an email from Chris and Jelker about the ToDo app. I responded to Chris to let him know that all the core functionality is working and suggested two new features to him. I am now waiting for his response. While waiting on that, today my priority is any tasks from Jetro or Nova Web; otherwise, I will keep on reading and practicing to improve my skills. No blockers.11:00
daniel__ACTION done11:00
thomasboimahACTION done11:00
jelknerACTION done11:00
jkollieyesterday I continue with the book on (chapter 2: Decidim and vision of a radically democratic society), Today i'll do some analysis on this 11:00
jkolliechapter and also do some research work to have a better understanding No Blocker.11:00
jkollieACTION done11:00
jelknersvaye?11:01
svayeYesterday I attended my  classes and also had a brief discussion with daniel__ concerning the budget. Today I will submit my uopeople assignment.  Blocking on the amount we are budgetting for.11:01
jelknermulbah?11:02
jelknerhearing nothing from mulbah, let's close the meeting11:02
jelknera few things11:02
mulbahYesterday I read continue on system management and practice with user on my computer by creating them    11:02
jelknermulbah: you need to stop sleeping on the job ;-)11:02
jelknerthomasboimah: do you see all the issues in ToDo?11:03
mulbahsorry my computer keyboard giving problem 11:03
thomasboimahYep!11:03
jelknermulbah: i sent several computers with mr. zawolo11:03
jelknercan't you get one of them?11:03
jelknerthey work well11:03
mulbahI think I will take one11:03
jelkneror they did when i tested them before i sent them11:03
jelkneryou can't do the job if you don't have working tools11:04
mulbahI can help on some of the issues11:04
daniel__They are working well jelkner 11:04
jelknerso, thomasboimah, your task is to make sure those items get completed and then marked as completed11:04
jelknerthat will lead to more user stories11:04
thomasboimahmulbah, the first thing is for you create an account on the today app because you don't have on11:04
jelknerlike, "I want to see a list of tasks that svaye completed in the last month"11:04
thomasboimah*one11:04
jelkneror things like thta11:05
jelknerthat11:05
thomasboimahjkollie, you too11:05
jelknerit is through using ToDo that we will learn to make it better11:05
jelknerthat is called "Dog Fooding"11:05
jelknerwe are eating our own dog food ;-)11:05
mulbahI have an account there Thomas 11:05
jelknerthomasboimah: one more thing, i put a video about PODER Emma in your home directory on the postgres server11:06
jelknercould you please download it and give it to jkollie?11:06
jelknershe should watch it11:06
thomasboimahmulbah, you don't have an account11:06
jkolliealright thomasboimah, but you need to give me access to the app11:06
jelknerit will help her understand the solidarity economy11:06
thomasboimahyes jelkner !11:06
thomasboimahI will do that11:06
jelknerok, svaye you said you're blocking on a number for the budget?11:07
jelkneri'm confused11:07
jelkneryou need to determing what our needs are11:07
jelknerthen price them11:07
jelknerthat's where the budget will come from11:07
jelkneri spoke with mr. zawolo yesterday11:07
jelknerhe committed to going in half with me on one year's rent for your place in Fendell11:08
daniel__We were thinking that the budget will cover the 5k jel11:08
jelknerbut *YOU* all need to move on that!11:08
daniel__*jelkner 11:08
jelknerSo we need a budget11:08
daniel__+111:08
jelknerdaniel__: that is not the best way to think about this11:08
daniel__Okay, 11:09
jelkneryes, SJC does have $15K now that can be used for the reboot11:09
jelknerbut you're not thinking properly11:09
jelknerwe can't keep working with just what we have11:09
jelknerwe need to start thinking in terms of what we need11:09
jelknerdaniel__: please watch the video i sent for jkollie 11:10
svayeSo the budget should include the fund for the office space 11:10
daniel__Sure, the we will break down soon when using the little resource on hand11:10
jelknerPODER Emma founder Andrea Golden talks about how in the beginning they tried to raise all the capital they needed themselves11:11
jelknerbut now they work with Seed Commons ( https://seedcommons.org/ ) to greatly expand what they can do.11:11
jelknerSeed Commons focuses on "non-extractive" lending11:12
jelknerUnder capitalism, lending is usually extractive11:12
jelknerthe banks want to suck all the blood they can from their victims11:12
jelknerand they don't care if it kills them11:13
jelknerThe solidarity economy, on the other hand, is about helping people thrive11:13
jelknernot extracting from them11:13
jelknerso svaye, we need to start thinking medium and long term11:14
jelknerwhere are we going?11:14
jelknerwhat are we trying to do?11:14
jelknerthere are lots of people like us trying to figure out how to build healthy communities11:14
jelknerwe can learn from them11:14
jelknerbut we need to contribute back our own experience too11:14
jelknerso they learn from us11:14
jelknermake sense?11:14
daniel__+111:15
jelknersvaye?11:15
svaye 11:16
jelknerremember, you have the staff position because we are counting on you to take *initiiative*11:16
jelknerwhat does that mean?11:16
jelknerwhile we wait for svaye 11:16
jelknerthomasboimah: can i ask you one more thing?11:17
daniel__Think ahead if I may interrupte11:17
svayeThat means I have to step up and take the lead11:17
jelkneryes, svaye 11:17
thomasboimahsure jelkner 11:17
jelknerand "taking the lead" means "owning the problem"11:17
jelknermeaning you think medium and long term11:17
svaye+111:17
jelkneryou think about where we are going and how we are going to get there11:17
jelkneryou proposed solutions11:17
jelknerand investigate11:18
jelknerthomasboimah: would you be able to setup a #sjcompute channel on OFTC, register it, and have it log to the same server that #novawebdev and #jetrowebdev do?11:18
thomasboimahI will not total say yes to this but i can give it a try11:19
jelknerwho set up #jetrowebdev ?11:19
jelknerWas it Toby?11:19
thomasboimah=111:19
thomasboimah+111:20
jelknermulbah: did you have any part in that?11:20
jelknerWe need to be able to do these things on our own11:20
jelknerthat's when we will be ready for business11:20
mulbahyes11:20
mulbah+111:20
jelknermulbah: could you work with thomasboimah to get that done?11:20
jelkneryou'll see how important it is to TAKE NOTES!11:20
jelknersince i bet you didnt :-(11:21
mulbahSure Jeff11:21
jelknergreat, please try11:21
jelknerthe hours will be billable to SJC11:21
mulbahokay Jeff11:22
jelknerjust created a new ToDo task for you thomasboimah 11:23
jelknerlet's see what you can do!11:23
thomasboimahoaky11:23
jelknerok gotta run11:23
jelknersame time, same place tomorrow11:23
daniel__You too 11:23
svayeHave a wonderful day jelkner 11:23
jelkneryou too!11:23
jelknerACTION signs off until tomorrow11:23
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thomasboimahmulbah, 11:24
mulbahyes11:24
thomasboimahyou can start look in to that and let me know what you find. I will also start looking into this after my class11:25
thomasboimah*looking11:25
thomasboimahBye guys11:25
thomasboimahACTION leaving11:25
svayeEveryone, we need to discuss what we need so daniel__ and I can put it in the budget and present it11:26
mulbahthomas11:26
thomasboimahyes mulbah 11:26
mulbahHe want it to have chatbot too 11:27
thomasboimahNo mulbah! look at the log11:27
mulbahokay I will hit you up 11:28
thomasboimahyou will see what he is asking for. let's follow instruction11:28
thomasboimahOkAY BRO11:28
thomasboimahI will be waiting to hear from you11:28
svayemulbah: 11:29
thomasboimahsvaye, and daniel__ please you guys can discuss i will read the log please i have to go now11:29
svayeAlright 11:29
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svayemulbah: please check your inbox I sent you a message 11:29
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mulbahHello22:32
thomasboimahHi bro22:33
mulbahyou have an account on the server 22:33
thomasboimahI should send my ssh key to you private key so you can add it there22:33
thomasboimah*privately*22:34
mulbahyes22:35
thomasboimahI just did22:36
thomasboimahIf you want i can allow you do the update for the sjcompute channel22:36
thomasboimahbut i we have to get it done before tomorrow22:37
thomasboimahbut  we have to get it done before tomorrow22:37
thomasboimahBut still please add my ssh key22:37
thomasboimahmulbah, i manage to get access22:41
mkollehokay22:44
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