| svaye_ | Yesterday I researched on how to do a budget plan in gnucash and surprisingly it's kinda easy so today I will try to finish it and send a mail to the team but if I can't complete it today because of my classes I will send the mail tomorrow before the stand-up meeting. No blockers | 11:00 |
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| svaye_ | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | Yesterday, I was supposed to meet with Sahnun, but I guess he got confused about the channel and time. Today, I plan to do any work that Nova and Jetro Web have for me. Otherwise, I will be reading the Django documentation and practicing to improve my skills. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| daniel__ | Yesterday, I read over my lesson and did one of my assignments, today, I plan to do my self quiz | 11:00 |
| daniel__ | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i worked on the bylaws for SJC, and began investigating how to get svaye the access she needs to do bookkeeping with SJC and SECOSOL (and NOVA and Jetro). Today i'll continue with that work. No immediate blockers. | 11:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jkollie | yesterday I did a case study and an example scenario on, Using Decidim for county level Budgeting in Liberia and added it to my codeberg account | 11:01 |
| jkollie | this morning, https://codeberg.org/jkollie/Decidim_study/src/branch/main/scenario.md. Today I'm going to return to the Decidim book and continue reading from where I stop. No blocker | 11:01 |
| jkollie | ACTION done | 11:01 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 11:02 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, i talked with sahnun yesterday | 11:02 |
| jelkner | not sure where he went, but he didn't see you | 11:02 |
| jelkner | hold on... | 11:03 |
| thomasboimah | He miss the channel jelkner | 11:03 |
| thomasboimah | instead of him joining #jetrowebdev he join #jetroweb | 11:03 |
| jelkner | ahh | 11:05 |
| jelkner | that's on him | 11:05 |
| jelkner | look at the new issue i just filed in ToDo | 11:05 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 11:06 |
| jelkner | just filed another | 11:08 |
| jelkner | why aren't Gabriel and Mulbah on ToDo? | 11:08 |
| jelkner | ah, Gabriel used gaprinho as his user name | 11:09 |
| jelkner | bad move | 11:09 |
| thomasboimah | Gabriel is there. it is mulbah not there | 11:09 |
| jelkner | we want user names that are easy to identify as the people they correspond to | 11:09 |
| jelkner | gwashington, for example | 11:10 |
| jelkner | the old unix standard | 11:10 |
| jelkner | or gabriel at least | 11:10 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, please ask him to change that | 11:10 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 11:10 |
| jelkner | our communication is negatively effected when folks don't know who is who | 11:10 |
| jelkner | svaye_, thomasboimah i called my friend in Vermont who know a lot about phones yesterday | 11:11 |
| jelkner | he suggested the best way for svaye_ to get access to a US phone number would be through Google voice | 11:11 |
| jelkner | my principle is to use free software and to avoid corporate tech whenever it is feasible | 11:12 |
| jelkner | it looks like it isn't feasible now | 11:12 |
| jelkner | so i may have to suck it up (it always hurts me deep in my soul when i do this :-( | 11:12 |
| jelkner | and use Google | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i just set up a new gmail address: | 11:13 |
| jelkner | socialjusticecomputing@gmail.com | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i'm going to see if we can get it to work with a Google voice number | 11:13 |
| jelkner | that Shallon could use to make calls in the US. | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i'll update you as i figure this out | 11:14 |
| jelkner | in the main time, thomasboimah | 11:14 |
| jelkner | please email sahnun (cc me) with a new attempt to meet | 11:14 |
| jelkner | please keep trying | 11:14 |
| thomasboimah | OkAY | 11:14 |
| svaye_ | Jelkner the tech industry is growing everyday, and I think they are getting rid of free software though means like this, so we would be complell to us other software | 11:14 |
| jelkner | we need a developer with front end experience | 11:14 |
| jelkner | svaye_, we may all end being slaves | 11:15 |
| jelkner | that would really suck | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i don't want to be elon musk's slave | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i think i would rather die fighting for my freedom! | 11:15 |
| svaye_ | I know that, but let's brace ourselves for change in the near future | 11:16 |
| jelkner | it's going to be interesting times, svaye_ | 11:16 |
| jelkner | BRICS is rising | 11:16 |
| jelkner | the US empire is falling apart | 11:16 |
| jelkner | dangerous times | 11:16 |
| jelkner | anyway, there will be movements for democracy | 11:17 |
| jelkner | like the one in Barcelona that created Decidim | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and the ones we are connected with here | 11:17 |
| jelkner | NOVASEN, VASEN, SECOSOL, NextSystem, etc. | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and efforts i really want to learn from | 11:17 |
| jelkner | PODER Emma, Industrial Commons to top the list here locally | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i plan to learn as much as i can | 11:18 |
| jelkner | and to work as hard as i can to support those efforts | 11:18 |
| jelkner | to build with them | 11:18 |
| jelkner | We say in NOVA Web we are about three things together: | 11:18 |
| jelkner | 1. We want to make a living, not a killing | 11:19 |
| jelkner | 2. We want to help build the world we want to live in | 11:19 |
| jelkner | 3. We want to use the people's software to help build the people's movement | 11:19 |
| jelkner | i'm going to focus on those things | 11:19 |
| jelkner | anyway, i'll get off my soapbox now ;-) | 11:19 |
| jelkner | so i'm going to try to set up this phone that you can use svaye_ | 11:20 |
| jelkner | we need a bookkeeper soon | 11:20 |
| jelkner | for our 3 businesses | 11:20 |
| jelkner | tax season is coming soon | 11:20 |
| jelkner | and we either pay you | 11:20 |
| jelkner | or we have to pay a bookkeeper here | 11:20 |
| jelkner | if we do that, you will receive *much* less money in Liberia | 11:21 |
| jelkner | since a bookkeeper here will be really expensive | 11:21 |
| jelkner | and will use up the limited resources we have here to send to you | 11:21 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 11:21 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 11:21 |
| jelkner | so we are under pressure to succeed fast | 11:21 |
| daniel__ | +1 | 11:21 |
| svaye_ | I am willing to lessen the burden of paying a bookkeeper and focus on the bigger picture | 11:22 |
| jelkner | daniel__, if you can learn to do bookkeeping, we could afford to send you a $400 monthly salary too | 11:22 |
| daniel__ | Okay | 11:22 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else before i go? | 11:22 |
| svaye_ | jelkner: we need set up a time and discuss gnucash in depth | 11:23 |
| svaye_ | To* | 11:23 |
| jelkner | what do you want to discuss? | 11:23 |
| jelkner | either now or next weekend | 11:24 |
| jelkner | let's decide that now | 11:24 |
| svaye_ | There are a lot a features we could use to make bookkeeping easier for us, but like I said I am not really familiar with the various accounts the organization has . | 11:24 |
| svaye_ | Of* | 11:24 |
| jelkner | ah, that's what i meant on ToDo by Get Shallon and Thomas full NOVA Web Access | 11:25 |
| jelkner | it really should be "Get Shallon and Thomas full accesss to NOVA Web and SJC | 11:25 |
| svaye_ | So I need a list of the accounts and customers of the organization to understand their relationship and be able to keep books accurately | 11:26 |
| daniel__ | Sure svaye_ gnucash has alot and it is easy to use for bookkeeping | 11:26 |
| jelkner | and soon SECOSOL | 11:26 |
| jelkner | we need to figure out how you can see the SJC and NOVA Web bank accounts from Liberia | 11:26 |
| jelkner | and then start tracking transactions | 11:26 |
| jelkner | i am overextended | 11:26 |
| jelkner | too many things depend on me doing things, and my capacity is not big enough to do all of them | 11:27 |
| jelkner | so we need to distribute the work | 11:27 |
| svaye_ | I think klarios can help with accessing the bank account | 11:27 |
| jelkner | i want to get out of managing the finances | 11:27 |
| jelkner | it's time consuming and i can't do it | 11:27 |
| daniel__ | Everything (features) is already been prepared, you just need to input you data and get the results | 11:27 |
| jelkner | well then, my dear friend, DO IT! | 11:28 |
| jelkner | ;-) | 11:28 |
| jelkner | but it's not that easy daniel__ | 11:28 |
| jelkner | you need to know which federal and state forms need to be filed and when | 11:28 |
| daniel__ | Yes | 11:28 |
| jelkner | and you need to make sure that your account information has everything you need to complete those forms easily | 11:28 |
| jelkner | and on time | 11:28 |
| jelkner | that is the task | 11:29 |
| daniel__ | There where we can have the trouble | 11:29 |
| jelkner | you bet | 11:29 |
| svaye_ | daniel__: we need to understand the accounts so when we send out and invoice it will automatically go to the right account which is account receivable | 11:29 |
| jelkner | and trouble can be *VERY* expensive | 11:29 |
| jelkner | we don't want trouble | 11:29 |
| jelkner | svaye_, daniel__, last year ved did a good job of handling all this | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i don't know how to do it | 11:30 |
| jelkner | and i can't be the one responsible for learning | 11:30 |
| jelkner | since i don't have the time to do that effectively | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i think ved is too busy with his first semester at university to help us | 11:31 |
| jelkner | but Devesh still has more time | 11:31 |
| jelkner | i will be reaching out to him | 11:31 |
| jelkner | to work with you | 11:31 |
| jelkner | to figure this out | 11:31 |
| jelkner | he can ask ved questions by calling him when he needs to | 11:31 |
| jelkner | that's my plan | 11:31 |
| daniel__ | But he hardly have meeting with us and let us know about those forms from the different federal or state and when to filed them | 11:32 |
| jelkner | yes, daniel__ | 11:32 |
| jelkner | that *is* my job | 11:32 |
| jelkner | i'm in a project manager role here | 11:32 |
| svaye_ | We would need to meet with Devesh to understand the system of America as it relates to bank accounts and tax | 11:32 |
| jelkner | my job is to make sure the right people are connected to each other and have the resources to do what they need to do | 11:32 |
| jelkner | i'll do that | 11:32 |
| jelkner | it will take a little time | 11:33 |
| jelkner | since i only just started working with Devesh | 11:33 |
| jelkner | and he isn't in my class like Ved was | 11:33 |
| jelkner | Ved's sister is in my class | 11:33 |
| jelkner | and she already approached me about having interest in working with us | 11:33 |
| jelkner | so i'll talk to her too | 11:33 |
| jelkner | i'm on it | 11:33 |
| jelkner | we are going to setup postgresql with gnucash in my lab at school | 11:34 |
| jelkner | so i can use it with my entrepreneurship students | 11:34 |
| jelkner | the only way i can get time to learn something these days is to find a way to teach it | 11:34 |
| jelkner | since that's what APS pays me to do ;-) | 11:35 |
| jelkner | so i'm trying to do that whenever and wherever i can | 11:35 |
| jelkner | be patient, svaye_ and daniel__ | 11:35 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking about this problem every day | 11:35 |
| jelkner | the more you can learn on your own | 11:35 |
| jelkner | the better we will be when the time comes | 11:35 |
| daniel__ | Okay, | 11:35 |
| svaye_ | Alright jelkner | 11:36 |
| jelkner | so let's continue this discussion later | 11:36 |
| jelkner | focus now on what we can do in the short term | 11:36 |
| jelkner | and work towards our medium term goals | 11:36 |
| jelkner | svaye_, how are we doing on a search for a jetro office? | 11:36 |
| daniel__ | Sure | 11:36 |
| jelkner | it is one week until the end of September | 11:37 |
| jelkner | my plan is to transfer $5K next week | 11:37 |
| jelkner | you all really need to plan how you will manage that | 11:37 |
| svaye_ | I took a look at freena report in Decidim but I didn't see the prices, so I will look online today for a place. | 11:37 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, the place is ready is just the fees to pay for it | 11:38 |
| jelkner | how much? | 11:38 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, i'm asking for a budget | 11:38 |
| jelkner | svaye_ says she isn't ready | 11:38 |
| jelkner | you are saying you are | 11:38 |
| thomasboimah | Freena find a lot of place during her search | 11:38 |
| jelkner | who is right? | 11:38 |
| jelkner | yes thomasboimah, but those places come and go | 11:38 |
| jelkner | they may have already been leased to someone else, right? | 11:39 |
| jelkner | i don't understand well the rental situation in Fendell | 11:39 |
| jelkner | i can't | 11:39 |
| svaye_ | thomasboimah: do you have the prices for the places freena found, because I am not seeing it on decidim. | 11:39 |
| jelkner | since i'm not there | 11:39 |
| jelkner | only you can | 11:39 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, to get place in Liberia is not hard here as long you have the money | 11:39 |
| daniel__ | Seeing places in the past and seeing it online is not depends | 11:39 |
| daniel__ | A*dependable | 11:39 |
| thomasboimah | YOu can even get place today if you want | 11:39 |
| thomasboimah | as long you have the money on hand | 11:40 |
| daniel__ | You need to see or visit the place | 11:40 |
| jelkner | you want a *good* place, thomasboimah | 11:40 |
| jelkner | right? | 11:40 |
| jelkner | you are young | 11:40 |
| thomasboimah | +1 jelkner | 11:40 |
| jelkner | and inexperienced | 11:40 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 11:40 |
| jelkner | if you get a bad landlord | 11:40 |
| jelkner | all sorts of bad things can happen | 11:40 |
| thomasboimah | Place is not that experience here let in the US jelkner | 11:40 |
| jelkner | the building needs repairs and they won't do them | 11:40 |
| jelkner | you get water leaks | 11:40 |
| daniel__ | Check the surrounding and how the environment looks like | 11:41 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:41 |
| jelkner | thanks daniel__ | 11:41 |
| jkollie | the places that was found before might not be avaliable by now , so we can start searching for a new place | 11:41 |
| jelkner | that's what i'm looking for | 11:41 |
| jelkner | you all need to think very seriously about this | 11:41 |
| jelkner | since Mulbah said he would move there | 11:41 |
| daniel__ | Not only online view. | 11:41 |
| jelkner | i was *really* hoping he would get in involved | 11:41 |
| jelkner | make a trip there and look at places | 11:42 |
| jelkner | think about what it will mean to live there | 11:42 |
| jelkner | mr. zawolo said he would pay 1/2 | 11:42 |
| jelkner | for the first year | 11:42 |
| jelkner | he didn't make the SJC board meeting | 11:42 |
| jelkner | but he told me he still want to be involved | 11:42 |
| jelkner | so we need to talk to him too | 11:43 |
| jelkner | to get his advice | 11:43 |
| jelkner | if SJC sends the $5K, can you all commit to really moving on that? | 11:43 |
| daniel__ | +1 | 11:43 |
| svaye_ | +1 | 11:44 |
| jkollie | +1 | 11:44 |
| thomasboimah | +1 jelkner I can even join svaye_ on this since i live this Fendal side | 11:44 |
| jelkner | great | 11:44 |
| jelkner | nice thomasboimah | 11:44 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll work on the transfer | 11:44 |
| jelkner | see you tomorrow then, same time, same place | 11:44 |
| daniel__ | You too | 11:44 |
| svaye_ | thomasboimah: if you have time on Friday I can meet with you for us to do the search in person | 11:45 |
| jelkner | ACTION logs off until tomorrow | 11:45 |
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| thomasboimah | I don't have time on Friday svaye_ i can only be free on Tuesday and Thursday | 11:46 |
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| svaye_ | I have classes on Tuesday and Thursday | 11:48 |
| svaye_ | We will try to figure it out | 11:49 |
| svaye_ | Have a wonderful day everyone | 11:49 |
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