| thomasboimah | Good morning Jetro | 10:58 |
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| svaye | Good morning thomasboimah | 10:58 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning svaye and freena | 10:59 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i worked on teacher lesson planning. Today i'll try to get in some gnucash with postgres setup notes. I have a meeting with CPA today at 3 pm. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | Yesterday I deploy the minor style that was added to the Todo app to the production server and completed my UoPeople Database assignment. Today, I plan to investigate VPN (Virtual Private Network) that we will use for a direct connection to the U.S. to access state documents. No blocker. | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| svaye | Yesterday I try logging in to SJC bank account but I couldn't access it, I forgot to ask thomasboimah for the estimated time for the the website, I try calling him this morning but he's not answering. Today I woke up with the flu, and I have a bad headache, I don't think I will be able to work today but I will try when I feel better. Blocking on accessing SJC bank account. | 11:02 |
| dcammue | Sorry | 11:02 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 11:02 |
| thomasboimah | svaye: I have issue with my Orange number | 11:03 |
| mulbah | Yesterday I just work on a project I have been working on for a long time now "My Church Management System" I'm using Frappe framework for it | 11:03 |
| mulbah | ACTION done | 11:03 |
| dcammue | I yesterday, I tried logging in the sjcompute bank account but the phone number was the blockers | 11:03 |
| jelkner | interesting mulbah | 11:03 |
| dcammue | Today I wish jelkner could help me do that | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i look forward to finding out more about that when i come visit | 11:03 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 11:03 |
| jelkner | dcammue: ahh yes | 11:04 |
| jelkner | that is going to be a challenge | 11:04 |
| jelkner | you will need a U.S. phone number for a lot of what we want to do | 11:04 |
| jelkner | i can't really help with that right now dcammue | 11:04 |
| jelkner | i ask a friend who know a lot about telephony | 11:05 |
| jelkner | and he told me Google voice may be the cheapest way to go. | 11:05 |
| jelkner | but i don't know how to set that up | 11:05 |
| jelkner | we are blocking on the Jetro office | 11:05 |
| svaye | thomasboimah: can you give me an estimated time for the completion of the website jelkner spoke of yesterday? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | since i don't want to spend a lot of time on solutions to tech problems that aren't durable | 11:06 |
| jelkner | and nothing will be durable until we have a durable location | 11:06 |
| jelkner | and durable Internet | 11:06 |
| jelkner | etc. | 11:06 |
| jelkner | so we need the office | 11:06 |
| jelkner | without that, we should focus on other things | 11:06 |
| jelkner | that we can control | 11:06 |
| jelkner | dcammue: i can send you the bank statements | 11:07 |
| jelkner | from SJC | 11:07 |
| jelkner | in PDF | 11:07 |
| jelkner | and you can update the books from those | 11:07 |
| mulbah | I'm have way done with it have build so many feature for it attendance management, viewing all member, admin roles and permission to mange Member Information across many branches I plan to make it as a Multi-tenant app for other churches | 11:07 |
| jelkner | what is the tech stack mulbah? | 11:07 |
| dcammue | +1 that right | 11:07 |
| freena | Yesterday I read the decidim book and I didn't some practice and watch some toturials on graphic design. Today I plan to continue plan to continue. | 11:08 |
| freena | ACTION done | 11:08 |
| freena | Svaye and thomasboimah, sorry I was out of data yesterday but will send you it today | 11:09 |
| jelkner | freena: if you have an artistic skill, we sure could use that! | 11:09 |
| jelkner | do you draw, freena? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | my experience is that we need someone who already likes to draw | 11:09 |
| jelkner | someone who has "art in their bones" so to speak | 11:09 |
| jelkner | it is very hard to learn design unless you love it | 11:10 |
| jelkner | and in my experience, it isn't hard to tell the folks who "love it" | 11:10 |
| jelkner | they draw all the time | 11:10 |
| freena | I am not go with my hands on paper but I can sure do some designs using the computer | 11:10 |
| freena | jelkner: | 11:10 |
| jelkner | just because they want to | 11:10 |
| jelkner | not because anyone is telling them to | 11:10 |
| jelkner | well, i look forward to seeing what you've got when i come to visith | 11:11 |
| jelkner | visit | 11:11 |
| jelkner | ok, i have to go | 11:11 |
| mulbah | for the fronted I using Vue and tailwind css and the back-end Frappe Framework (which use Python and JS) it have a build in admin page | 11:11 |
| freena | Alright jelkner | 11:11 |
| jelkner | i remember looking into it | 11:11 |
| jelkner | it is an Indian project | 11:11 |
| mulbah | Yes | 11:11 |
| mulbah | it's make your work faster | 11:12 |
| jelkner | very free software oriented and apparently with a large community | 11:12 |
| jelkner | yes, mulbah, and no | 11:12 |
| jelkner | be careful | 11:12 |
| jelkner | "magic solutions" aren't magic | 11:12 |
| jelkner | if you don't have skills | 11:12 |
| jelkner | you won't become a pro | 11:12 |
| mulbah | you can write a code and do more | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we can't market your labor unless you know what you are doing | 11:12 |
| jelkner | yes, mulbah, i know | 11:13 |
| mulbah | they have a Desk page that you can create a custom page | 11:13 |
| jelkner | but large frameworks produce *very large* source trees | 11:13 |
| mulbah | using Js and py for the api cal | 11:13 |
| mulbah | call | 11:13 |
| jelkner | complex and complicated | 11:13 |
| jelkner | when something breaks (and it *will break*) | 11:13 |
| jelkner | if you don't know your craft | 11:13 |
| jelkner | you will be helpless to fix it | 11:13 |
| jelkner | you'll have an angry customer wondering why you can't fix their issues | 11:14 |
| jelkner | and you will be scared and frustrated | 11:14 |
| mulbah | for creating database table you just have to create a Doctype and can work with the Fields you Frappe methods | 11:14 |
| jelkner | since you will be helpless to fix it | 11:14 |
| jelkner | since you thought it was just "magic" | 11:14 |
| jelkner | and it isn't | 11:14 |
| jelkner | it's software | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i'm not trying to discourage you | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i'm just telling you that what thomasboimah is doing is what we need to do | 11:15 |
| jelkner | we need real skills | 11:15 |
| jelkner | then we can use whatever frameworks we want | 11:15 |
| mulbah | okay Jeff | 11:15 |
| jelkner | we can talk more when i'm there | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i think we should look into frappe | 11:15 |
| jelkner | it looks promising | 11:16 |
| jelkner | but i like to say... | 11:16 |
| mulbah | Sure before them I might complete the church management system | 11:16 |
| jelkner | we need to crawl before we walk, and walk before we run, and run before we fly | 11:16 |
| jelkner | you're trying to fly | 11:16 |
| mulbah | and be full prepare for the Linux+ exam | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and you don't know how to crawl yet | 11:16 |
| jelkner | it won't work | 11:16 |
| jelkner | i'm old | 11:16 |
| mulbah | *fully* | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and my experience teaches me that lesson | 11:17 |
| jelkner | oh, btw, if you are using it to do a volunteer project like you are, mulbah | 11:17 |
| jelkner | np | 11:17 |
| jelkner | your customers aren't paying you | 11:17 |
| jelkner | so when things break | 11:17 |
| jelkner | they can't be too mad at you | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and you will then learn on your own | 11:18 |
| jelkner | so please, go ahead and try to fly! ;-) | 11:18 |
| jelkner | break things | 11:18 |
| jelkner | just not your bones ;-) | 11:18 |
| thomasboimah | Hahaha | 11:18 |
| mulbah | hahahah | 11:18 |
| jelkner | ok, i need to go | 11:18 |
| jelkner | dcammue: i'll email you links to the pdfs | 11:18 |
| freena | Hahahaha | 11:18 |
| jelkner | see you all tomorrow | 11:18 |
| mulbah | Okay Jeff have a nice day | 11:18 |
| jelkner | same place, same time | 11:19 |
| jelkner | you too! | 11:19 |
| svaye | Have a wonderful day jelkner | 11:19 |
| jelkner | you too svaye | 11:19 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:19 |
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