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| svaye | Good morning fkoikoi thomasboimah gabriel_jetro jkollie and dcammue | 11:41 |
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| fkoikoi | Good morning svaye | 11:41 |
| gabriel_jetro | Good morning svaye, how's your night | 11:41 |
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| dcammue | Good | 11:46 |
| dcammue | *morning svaye | 11:46 |
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| dcammue | Good morning, jelkner | 11:56 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning jelkner | 11:59 |
| dcammue | For the past few days, i have been doing some research on the U.S. payroll tax, like FICA TAX, FEDERAL INCOME TAX, AND STATE INCOME TAX, | 11:59 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yesterday i work on making the hope bridge liberia html page live so that the team can view it along with jelkner at https://gab-rinho1.github.io/Myproject/ to get your input to continue with the start with the css today. | 11:59 |
| gabriel_jetro | ACTION done | 11:59 |
| thomasboimah | Yesterday i was working with zOnny backing up database of some of the server on linode. Today I will be on the django documentation. No blocker. | 12:00 |
| svaye | Monday after our standup meeting I started studying the tax law of Liberia, and I learned some important things. 1. Jetroweb is not paying tax now because we are not actively doing business in Liberia, we are register, but we are not running a active business. 2. When we actively start running the business we will have to file two tax PIT(Personal Income Tax) which is from 0% to 25% based on your income.and CIT(Corporate Income Tax) which is 25% of your | 12:00 |
| svaye | gross income or it can also be 2% of your gross income but that can be discuss. today I will continue reading on Nonprofit tax in Liberia. No blockers | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| jelkner | Yesterday I spent the day catching up with student recommendation letters and other paperwork, including paying SJC's annual fee and updating its annual report. Today I'll be trying to figure out how to get students to do PCEP and CPE retakes. Blocking on finding an open space to do that. | 12:00 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| mulbah | Yesterday I was reading over Building Blog CMS (Content Management System) with Django | 12:00 |
| dcammue | I have some files in the secosol folder on shared mayfirst | 12:00 |
| mulbah | from geeksforgeeks.org | 12:00 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| svaye | Good morning jelkner and mulbah | 12:00 |
| mulbah | no blockers | 12:00 |
| mulbah | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| mulbah | Good morning svaye | 12:01 |
| jelkner | Good day all. | 12:01 |
| jelkner | It has been a bit frustrating for me. | 12:01 |
| svaye | mulbah, I sent a feedback in the Whatsapp groupchat | 12:01 |
| jelkner | I'm blocking on several things, including my Liberian VISA. | 12:01 |
| jelkner | I'm going to move on to other things, and hope that works out. | 12:01 |
| mulbah | Let me take a look at it | 12:02 |
| jelkner | I am very pressed for time. | 12:02 |
| jkollie | yesterday I was on the NOVASEN site and I get to respond to jelkner concerning the NOVASEN up comming meeting, I also started my note and idea from the Decidim book to add to my codeberg account, Today I'll continue. No blocker | 12:02 |
| jkollie | ACTION done | 12:02 |
| svaye | jelkner, is there anything we can do to help? | 12:02 |
| fkoikoi | yesterday, I started reading the decidim documentary and also continue with my html and css practice. Today I plan to continue with the documentary and get the things have learned on codebreg. I'm hoping we discuss today jelkner, jkollie and I . no blocker for now | 12:02 |
| jelkner | You can bug our dear friend mr. zawolo | 12:02 |
| jelkner | he is the only one i know with contacts at the embassy | 12:02 |
| jelkner | i want to make an appointment | 12:03 |
| jelkner | but they don't answer their phone or text | 12:03 |
| jelkner | so i'll just move on and hope we can set this up soon | 12:03 |
| jelkner | jkollie, thanks for sending the email to tony and kei | 12:03 |
| jelkner | it is there job to resolve your Decidim access issue | 12:03 |
| svaye | Okay, I am sending him a message now jelkner | 12:03 |
| jelkner | i hope they can soon | 12:03 |
| jkollie | it's okay | 12:04 |
| jelkner | we have our NoVASEN meeting tomorrow | 12:04 |
| jelkner | so i'll see kei then | 12:04 |
| jelkner | what else do you need from me? | 12:04 |
| dcammue | Yes | 12:04 |
| jelkner | i'm going to see if i can get into my classroom today | 12:04 |
| jelkner | i haven't been out of my apartment since Saturday | 12:05 |
| dcammue | I want to ask you about my moving to the office | 12:05 |
| jelkner | it's *very* cold outside here now! | 12:05 |
| jelkner | please dcammue | 12:05 |
| jelkner | ask | 12:05 |
| svaye | jelkner, I will send you a mail explaining more about the Liberian tax law | 12:05 |
| jelkner | svaye, no rush | 12:06 |
| dcammue | How am i moving to the office? Is the expwnse going to be on jetro or jeff. | 12:06 |
| jelkner | keep learning about that | 12:06 |
| jelkner | and let's talk when i am there with you | 12:06 |
| svaye | Alright jelkner | 12:06 |
| dcammue | Because i need to buy some things like bed and things for the room | 12:06 |
| jelkner | svaye, our first task is to get the businesses we already have taken care of | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i'll meet with devesh today about that | 12:06 |
| dcammue | Should i do the invoice | 12:06 |
| jelkner | dcammue, mr. zawolo promised to help | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i have done all i can, my dear friend | 12:07 |
| dcammue | Hmmm, he is not dependable | 12:07 |
| jelkner | if we don't broaden our support, we won't make it. | 12:07 |
| jelkner | well, he told me that he would be | 12:07 |
| jelkner | so we need to call him on that | 12:07 |
| jelkner | svaye, can you please help? | 12:07 |
| jelkner | you seem to have a good connection with him | 12:08 |
| jelkner | i can back you up | 12:08 |
| svaye | He promised to give me a call to discuss it jelkner | 12:08 |
| jelkner | but you need to take the lead on this | 12:08 |
| jelkner | ok, be polite, but persistent | 12:08 |
| jelkner | ;-) | 12:08 |
| svaye | Alright jelkner | 12:09 |
| jelkner | dcammue, that's all i can say on that | 12:09 |
| fkoikoi | jelkner, I think late respond or receiving confirmation message is a bug or problem that needs to be solve so that people won't wait for days before creating and account on the platform | 12:09 |
| dcammue | I need to move to the office next month(monday, 2 of february) | 12:09 |
| dcammue | Okay | 12:09 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, yes, that is a big problem | 12:09 |
| jelkner | it is a tony problem | 12:09 |
| jelkner | but kei is the project manager | 12:09 |
| jelkner | so it is also a kei problem | 12:10 |
| jelkner | i'm trying to do my part and to let others do theirs | 12:10 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 12:10 |
| jelkner | success for us requires us to work together | 12:10 |
| jkollie | that's right jelkner | 12:10 |
| jelkner | we need to be able to count on each other | 12:10 |
| jelkner | to "have each other's backs" as the saying goes | 12:10 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 12:10 |
| jelkner | if we can't do that, we can't succeed | 12:11 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else before i go? | 12:11 |
| jelkner | i'm going to go to my classroom | 12:11 |
| fkoikoi | +1 for me | 12:11 |
| jelkner | wish me luck getting in | 12:11 |
| jelkner | lol | 12:11 |
| dcammue | Also, one more thing before you go jeff. | 12:11 |
| jelkner | yes, dcammue? | 12:11 |
| dcammue | You will meet the lady for the secosol tax issue | 12:12 |
| dcammue | Before we.meet? | 12:12 |
| dcammue | Before we meet? | 12:12 |
| jelkner | what do you mean? | 12:12 |
| jelkner | i'm a bit confused, and it seems you are too ;-) | 12:12 |
| jelkner | so let's try to break it down | 12:13 |
| dcammue | You wanted to hire the lady to help with the setup of secosol book | 12:13 |
| jelkner | Lindsey Chapin | 12:13 |
| dcammue | Ys | 12:13 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:13 |
| jelkner | so that you understand, that is a *proposal* at this point | 12:13 |
| dcammue | Or we can do that on our own by using the tax table | 12:13 |
| jelkner | no, dcammue, i don't think we can | 12:14 |
| dcammue | For employer | 12:14 |
| jelkner | yes, you are on the right track | 12:14 |
| jelkner | but doing this right requires experience | 12:14 |
| jelkner | we don't have experience | 12:14 |
| jelkner | so we will stumble our way forward | 12:14 |
| dcammue | Yes we can, but you will not be confident to go with it | 12:14 |
| jelkner | and make lots os mistakes | 12:14 |
| jelkner | i've been dealing with this problem for years dcammue | 12:15 |
| jelkner | so you have to trust that at least i have some insight to it | 12:15 |
| jelkner | it is complicated and it is open ended | 12:15 |
| jelkner | that makes it hard to go forward without experience | 12:15 |
| jelkner | and hard to get experience | 12:15 |
| jelkner | Lindsay has *a lot* of experience | 12:16 |
| dcammue | How about your son, have you calk him? | 12:16 |
| jelkner | could we figure it out on our own after making many, many mistakes and getting experience? | 12:16 |
| jelkner | yes we could | 12:16 |
| dcammue | The one that is a CPA | 12:16 |
| jelkner | but i don't have the time for that | 12:16 |
| jelkner | Osvaldo | 12:16 |
| jelkner | he worked with Lindsey at his first job | 12:16 |
| jelkner | for years | 12:16 |
| jelkner | We could hire my son, but that is personally complicated | 12:17 |
| jelkner | i don't want to do that | 12:17 |
| svaye | dcammue, I believe what jelkner is saying is we need someone of experience to guide us, he's not saying we can't do it. | 12:17 |
| jelkner | right, svaye! | 12:17 |
| dcammue | I understand | 12:17 |
| jelkner | in fact, what's so great about Lindsey is she likes to teach | 12:18 |
| dcammue | Okay, sweet | 12:18 |
| svaye | jelkner, if there's a way we could meet with her to learn a few things it will be helpful | 12:18 |
| jelkner | so we will be hiring her to get us started, and then turn us loose on our own | 12:18 |
| jelkner | now be clear on the process | 12:18 |
| dcammue | I hope to be included in the process | 12:18 |
| jelkner | svaye, pay attention here, since this is relevant to our talk about a school in liberia | 12:18 |
| jelkner | SECOSOL will be providing the funds to hire Lindsay to teach is *if* the board approves that | 12:19 |
| jelkner | i really like this | 12:19 |
| jelkner | the funds are not mine | 12:19 |
| jelkner | i don't "own" them | 12:19 |
| jelkner | but together with my comrades on the board we "manage" them | 12:19 |
| jelkner | they are our shared resources and it is our duty as board members to be good stewards of them | 12:20 |
| jelkner | our boar meeting is next sunday | 12:20 |
| jelkner | i'll make a proposal | 12:20 |
| jelkner | and we will vote | 12:20 |
| jelkner | if the board approves, we can do it | 12:20 |
| jelkner | if not, we can't | 12:20 |
| jelkner | but, i don't just make a proposal, i organize | 12:21 |
| jelkner | i've already called kei, johanna, and heylin to talk to them about this | 12:21 |
| jelkner | they want to help start a bookkeeping co-op too | 12:21 |
| jelkner | and they approve of my plan | 12:21 |
| jelkner | so it will likely pass | 12:22 |
| jelkner | we will see | 12:22 |
| fkoikoi | jelkner, Can we meet have a decidim meeting anytime soon (kei, Tony, jelkner, jkollie and I) | 12:22 |
| dcammue | If not, then we will be forced to go for your son | 12:22 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, that is a great idea | 12:22 |
| jelkner | lol, dcammue | 12:22 |
| dcammue | But i want to ask | 12:22 |
| jelkner | i hope not | 12:22 |
| dcammue | Yes we hope not | 12:22 |
| jelkner | but first fkoikoi, you need to work with thomasboimah | 12:22 |
| jelkner | to make sure you have the connection you need to do that smoothly | 12:23 |
| jelkner | so far it hasn't worked | 12:23 |
| jelkner | your connection drops too much | 12:23 |
| jelkner | and the sound isn't good | 12:23 |
| dcammue | During johanna work time with secosol, did she ask for excess withholding of the amount from her pay | 12:23 |
| jelkner | dcammue, devesh is taking care of that for this year | 12:24 |
| jelkner | so don't worry too much about it | 12:24 |
| jelkner | just watch and learn | 12:24 |
| fkoikoi | no jelkner, the connection at the office here is okay | 12:24 |
| jelkner | so you could do it next year | 12:24 |
| svaye | jelkner, if the plan succeeds will we use jitsi to meet with Lindsey? | 12:24 |
| dcammue | Okay | 12:24 |
| jelkner | i do not want to be responsible for this! | 12:24 |
| jelkner | i have too much on my plate | 12:24 |
| jelkner | if it is my responsibility, we will fail | 12:24 |
| dcammue | Please tell him i created the secosol folder in the nextcloud | 12:25 |
| jelkner | svaye, we could, if it worked really well | 12:25 |
| jelkner | i think we need Starlink for that | 12:25 |
| fkoikoi | but we can meet on the hexchat jelkner if the sound doesn't permit us to used jisti | 12:25 |
| jelkner | if not, kei, johanna, heylin, and i will go to Lindsey's house | 12:25 |
| jelkner | we plan to do that anyway | 12:25 |
| jelkner | and to meet with her in person | 12:25 |
| jelkner | and then to share with you what we learn | 12:26 |
| svaye | alright jelkner | 12:26 |
| jelkner | we have another proposal for this sunday | 12:27 |
| dcammue | I will it be better if you guys do video call so we can listen as well | 12:27 |
| jelkner | to hire kei as SECOSOL's full time staffer | 12:27 |
| jelkner | so if we approve that, kei will be mostly responsible for organizing this | 12:27 |
| jelkner | payroll and bookkeeping i mean | 12:27 |
| jelkner | we have a very important meeting on sunday | 12:28 |
| jelkner | i'll update y'all after it is over | 12:28 |
| dcammue | Okay | 12:28 |
| jelkner | in the mean time, my UoPeople class starts in 17 hours | 12:28 |
| fkoikoi | jelkner | 12:28 |
| jelkner | and i need to get my work done so i can go to the meeting on sunday | 12:28 |
| jelkner | and not fall behind | 12:28 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi | 12:28 |
| fkoikoi | can the meeting be on the hexchat?? | 12:29 |
| jelkner | which meeting, fkoikoi? | 12:29 |
| jelkner | we are meeting right now in irc | 12:29 |
| fkoikoi | decidim meeting | 12:29 |
| jelkner | are you talking about the meeting with Lindsey? | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i would say we shouldn't do that | 12:29 |
| fkoikoi | with kei, tony, jelkner, jkollie and I | 12:29 |
| jelkner | ah, why yes, fkoikoi | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i think that would be great! | 12:30 |
| jelkner | can you do me a big favor? | 12:30 |
| jelkner | can you try to organize that meeting? | 12:30 |
| jelkner | it isn't easy to organize a meeting here in the US | 12:30 |
| fkoikoi | I can but | 12:30 |
| jelkner | people are always too busy | 12:30 |
| jelkner | so finding a time when they can all show up is not easy | 12:30 |
| jelkner | i can suggest a great time | 12:30 |
| fkoikoi | you have to assist kei and tony | 12:31 |
| jelkner | tomorrow at 4 pm EST | 12:31 |
| jelkner | kei, johanna and i have our 5:30 pm EST NoSEN meeting | 12:31 |
| jelkner | the NoVASEN meeting will be all about Decidim | 12:31 |
| jelkner | so having the tech team meet on irc before than could help kei get ready | 12:31 |
| jelkner | it all depends if Tony can make it | 12:32 |
| jelkner | email him please, and cc the rest of us | 12:32 |
| fkoikoi | the time is okay jelkner | 12:32 |
| jelkner | super | 12:32 |
| jkollie | okay, we can join the meeting, but we need tony | 12:32 |
| jelkner | i look forward to your email proposing it fkoikoi | 12:32 |
| fkoikoi | I will do the mail and send it today | 12:32 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 12:32 |
| jelkner | i think it is really important to have tony | 12:32 |
| fkoikoi | sure | 12:33 |
| jelkner | we can still meet if he can't make it | 12:33 |
| jelkner | but it will not be best | 12:33 |
| jelkner | so let's hope he can make it | 12:33 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else? | 12:33 |
| jelkner | i really need to get going | 12:33 |
| jkollie | alright | 12:33 |
| jelkner | the sun is up now | 12:33 |
| fkoikoi | -1 for me | 12:33 |
| svaye | Have a wonderful day jelkner | 12:33 |
| jelkner | you too svaye | 12:33 |
| jkollie | GOOD LUCK!!! jelkner | 12:33 |
| jelkner | see you friday, same time, same place | 12:34 |
| jelkner | and hopefully see fkoikoi and jkollie tomorrrow | 12:34 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 12:34 |
| jkollie | +1 | 12:34 |
| jelkner | oh, dcammue, one last thing about the office | 12:34 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, can i get your help on this too? | 12:34 |
| dcammue | Oak | 12:35 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:35 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 12:35 |
| jelkner | You can setup hexchat to give a notification when someone types your nick | 12:35 |
| jelkner | so here is my dream | 12:35 |
| jelkner | The Jetro office is set up, and the professional Jetro team staffs the office during regular business hours | 12:36 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:36 |
| jelkner | when i need to communicate with them, i simply login to their irc channel | 12:36 |
| jelkner | one of the Jetro members will usually be there | 12:36 |
| jelkner | i type their nick into the chat | 12:36 |
| svaye | jelkner, that works on my computer, I get a notification when someone joins, or mention me | 12:37 |
| jelkner | a bell sounds in the office notifying that person to look at the chat | 12:37 |
| thomasboimah | +1 svaye | 12:37 |
| dcammue | We can get a notification when someone makes mention of you nick name | 12:37 |
| thomasboimah | Ohoo | 12:37 |
| fkoikoi | same here jelkner | 12:37 |
| jelkner | that will make communication much easier | 12:37 |
| jelkner | and more effective | 12:37 |
| jelkner | yesterday i checked on irc several tims | 12:38 |
| jelkner | times | 12:38 |
| jelkner | and didn't see anyone in the channel | 12:38 |
| jelkner | it's a process | 12:38 |
| jelkner | you need to make it *easy*, not onerous | 12:38 |
| jelkner | when one or two of you are staying at the office most of the time | 12:38 |
| jelkner | we can set it up to be easy | 12:39 |
| jelkner | we want infrastructure that "just works" | 12:39 |
| dcammue | Okay | 12:39 |
| jelkner | that we don't need to struggle with | 12:39 |
| jelkner | that we can almost take for granted | 12:39 |
| jelkner | since it just works | 12:39 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, are you getting me? | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:39 |
| jelkner | as head of the dev team | 12:39 |
| jelkner | this falls to your team | 12:39 |
| jelkner | ok, my dear friends | 12:40 |
| jelkner | i'm heading out into the cold | 12:40 |
| jelkner | if you read a news report that says a jelkner shaped ice cube was found on columbia pike, you'll know what happened ;-) | 12:41 |
| jelkner | bye for now... | 12:41 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 12:41 |
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| svaye | ACTION sings off to get to the office | 12:41 |
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| jelkner | Hello dcammue | 15:49 |
| dcammue | Hello jeff | 15:51 |
| dcammue | jelkner: | 15:56 |
| jelkner | i'm back dcammue | 16:33 |
| jelkner | i made it to my classroom | 16:34 |
| jelkner | but it is very icy outside | 16:34 |
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