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| gabriel_jetro | Hi | 11:59 |
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| jelkner | Yesterday i attended a wonderful board meeting of SECOSOL. We voted to approve hiring Lindsey to help us learn bookkeeping, and to create two staff positions. In the evening I learned of possible near term opportunities for NOVA / Jetro web. Today I'll work on UoPeople assignment. No blockers. | 11:59 |
| jelkner | ACTION dones | 11:59 |
| jelkner | oops 10 seconds early :-( | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | During the weekend, I worked on shutting down some unnecessary servers on Linode and also worked on migrating the MMALO website to Mayfirst. Today I will continue studying LO until I have a deep understanding of it. No blockers. | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yesterday I was unable to work because I was at the church. | 12:00 |
| gabriel_jetro | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| jelkner | Nice thomasboimah | 12:00 |
| jelkner | btw. There is work that may come our way that will involve setting up websites on May First. | 12:01 |
| jelkner | In fact, this is a niche we can nicely fill if we learn to do it well. | 12:01 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, i want you to take a look at two websites. | 12:02 |
| jelkner | 1. https://www.poderemma.org/ | 12:02 |
| jelkner | 2. https://www.theindustrialcommons.org/ | 12:03 |
| freena | Good morning jelkner | 12:03 |
| jelkner | These are two excellent projects, but you can see that the 2nd one has a more professional looking website | 12:03 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:03 |
| jelkner | biggest thing is that it enables switching between languages instead of having both languages on the same page | 12:04 |
| jelkner | we have that ourselves with LibreOrganize | 12:04 |
| jelkner | i think that is its strongest feature | 12:04 |
| jelkner | so we will be looking for sites that need a bilingual cms | 12:04 |
| jelkner | Good morning freena | 12:05 |
| jelkner | Please keep working hard and moving forward | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 12:05 |
| jelkner | we are getting close to where i will be able to help you market your skills | 12:05 |
| jelkner | but it will only work if they keep improving | 12:05 |
| jelkner | i think we will soon get our first paying jobs | 12:06 |
| jelkner | we will need to handle them well | 12:06 |
| thomasboimah | yep | 12:06 |
| jelkner | if we do, other jobs will follow | 12:06 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 12:06 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else for me? | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i need to get to work on my 2nd paper for this week | 12:06 |
| dcammue | -1 | 12:06 |
| jelkner | and to be ready to return to school tomorrow | 12:06 |
| jelkner | dcammue, you'll be hearing from me before too long | 12:07 |
| jelkner | we approved hiring lindsey | 12:07 |
| gabriel_jetro | Ohk so we'll resume our class Wednesday, jelkner? | 12:07 |
| freena | -1 for me | 12:07 |
| jelkner | thanks for asking gabriel_jetro | 12:07 |
| jelkner | what the school told us is that we have a 2 hour delay schedule on wednesday | 12:07 |
| dcammue | Okay jelkner | 12:07 |
| jelkner | here's a little challenge for you. look at this: https://ict.gracehopper.center/static/info/ACC_BellSchedule_SY2526.pdf | 12:08 |
| jelkner | and tell me when we meet on Wednesday, gabriel_jetro | 12:08 |
| jelkner | Well? | 12:09 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, mulbah, you can help him | 12:09 |
| jelkner | brb | 12:10 |
| thomasboimah | 1:30 I'm just guessing | 12:11 |
| gabriel_jetro | What is your time on the times tables? | 12:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | Are you to what period? | 12:12 |
| thomasboimah | 10:00 to 11:00 if you are to period 1 | 12:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | They're mixed up time scheduling so I can't figure out your time | 12:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | There's no clue of names to who should teach at a specific time | 12:13 |
| jelkner | well, let's think about this from a problem solving point of view. | 12:14 |
| jelkner | what time do we meet on a normal day? | 12:14 |
| thomasboimah | 11:30 your time which is 4:30 our time | 12:15 |
| jelkner | Match that with "Regular Bell Schedule", and you could arrive at the period, right? | 12:15 |
| jelkner | So, which period? | 12:17 |
| thomasboimah | 4 | 12:17 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:17 |
| jelkner | nice thomasboimah | 12:18 |
| gabriel_jetro | For our clean code class is 11:30am your time which is 4:30pm here | 12:18 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:18 |
| jelkner | so tomorrow is the 2-hour delay schedule | 12:18 |
| jelkner | (we think, it could be changed, but that is what has been announced) | 12:18 |
| jelkner | what time would class meet? | 12:18 |
| gabriel_jetro | 1:30pm your time | 12:19 |
| gabriel_jetro | ?? | 12:19 |
| jelkner | nope | 12:19 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, want to help him? | 12:19 |
| thomasboimah | 10:20 | 12:19 |
| jelkner | lol | 12:20 |
| gabriel_jetro | 2:30? | 12:20 |
| jelkner | nope | 12:20 |
| jelkner | now you're all guessing | 12:20 |
| dcammue | 2:00 | 12:20 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, said it is 4th period | 12:20 |
| thomasboimah | Ohh | 12:20 |
| jelkner | it's actually a CTE class, so it uses the schedule along the right column | 12:20 |
| thomasboimah | it will be 12:35 | 12:20 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:20 |
| jelkner | nice thomasboimah | 12:20 |
| thomasboimah | to 1:30 | 12:20 |
| jelkner | the more i can teach you to be self-reliant, the better we will be! | 12:21 |
| jelkner | you can now figure out on your own when my classes meet | 12:21 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 12:21 |
| jelkner | i loved working with Stefan and Adrian the years they were running NOVA Web | 12:21 |
| thomasboimah | nice brain test | 12:22 |
| jelkner | because they almost never asked me how to do anything | 12:22 |
| jelkner | we only discussed what to do | 12:22 |
| jelkner | they could always figure out how on their own | 12:22 |
| jelkner | we are getting close to that now | 12:22 |
| jelkner | it's really good | 12:23 |
| jelkner | since if we want Jetro to succeed, we need to get there | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, | 12:23 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 12:23 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | The team was thinking about lunching Jetro when you come to Liberia | 12:24 |
| thomasboimah | to invite other company | 12:24 |
| thomasboimah | for Liberia | 12:24 |
| thomasboimah | *from* | 12:24 |
| thomasboimah | That way people will know us in Liberia | 12:24 |
| jelkner | what do you mean by "invite other company"? | 12:24 |
| thomasboimah | and we will build friends | 12:24 |
| thomasboimah | in the tech space | 12:25 |
| jelkner | excellent | 12:25 |
| jelkner | that is just the kind of conversation we need to have | 12:25 |
| jelkner | what you are talking about requires a business plan | 12:25 |
| jelkner | which you should always be thinking about | 12:26 |
| jelkner | if you think the business plan for Jetro includes Liberian customers, that's great | 12:26 |
| jelkner | but do you have any idea who? | 12:26 |
| jelkner | i don't have much data | 12:27 |
| jelkner | most of what i have in my head comes from my first trip there in 2022 | 12:27 |
| jelkner | if you recall, James Cooper introduced me to several young folks who worked in the tech sector | 12:27 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:28 |
| jelkner | including the one i remember most vividly, the guy who was a full stack web developer on a government project run by an indian company | 12:28 |
| jelkner | i asked him what he earned | 12:28 |
| jelkner | and he told me $7000 per year | 12:28 |
| jelkner | that's when i stared thinking that Jetro could do much better than that by targeting the US market | 12:29 |
| jelkner | through its partnership with NOVA Web | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 12:29 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 12:29 |
| jelkner | ultimately, its your business, not mine | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | You're right | 12:30 |
| jelkner | you get to decide, not me | 12:30 |
| jelkner | i'm only here to help | 12:30 |
| gabriel_jetro | That's cleared already jelkner | 12:30 |
| jelkner | but i would encourage you to think carefully about your plan | 12:30 |
| jelkner | since if you go off in too many different direction, and don't focus well enough, the change of failure rises | 12:31 |
| jelkner | it's an art, not a science | 12:31 |
| jelkner | there are no simple "rules" we can follow | 12:31 |
| jelkner | anyway, as you all know, the problem with the tech industry that i have personally is the same problem i have with capitalism in general | 12:32 |
| jelkner | it's extractive | 12:32 |
| jelkner | it's about taking, not giving | 12:32 |
| thomasboimah | You're right targeting the US will be much better then here | 12:32 |
| jelkner | so as i say here all the time, there's a lot of money in the tech industry | 12:32 |
| jelkner | but it's all in thieving and killing | 12:32 |
| jelkner | i want to be neither a thief nor a killer | 12:33 |
| jelkner | so what to do? | 12:33 |
| thomasboimah | Me too | 12:33 |
| jelkner | that's where i' | 12:33 |
| thomasboimah | I don't want to be a thief nor a killer | 12:33 |
| jelkner | i've been dreaming of finding ways to "make a living, not a killing" | 12:33 |
| jelkner | i think Decidim could be a big part of that | 12:33 |
| jelkner | we don't know | 12:33 |
| jelkner | we are living in uncertain times | 12:34 |
| jelkner | big changes are taking place in the world | 12:34 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 12:34 |
| jelkner | in Minneapolis in the US ICE shot two innocent people dead in the street | 12:35 |
| jelkner | The Trump administration fears the next election, which they know they will lose. | 12:35 |
| jelkner | So they are looking for ways either to not have the election or to steel it. | 12:36 |
| jelkner | We had a great election in NYC | 12:36 |
| jelkner | the new Mayor there will be doing more direct participation and democracy | 12:36 |
| jelkner | they use Decidim in NYC, btw | 12:36 |
| jelkner | so if we have more elections like that | 12:36 |
| jelkner | things look good for NOVA Web | 12:37 |
| jelkner | and Jetro Web | 12:37 |
| thomasboimah | Sweet | 12:37 |
| gabriel_jetro | Sure | 12:37 |
| jelkner | but if the right stops the election and shuts down what little we have of "democracy" | 12:37 |
| jelkner | things may not look so good | 12:38 |
| jelkner | anyway, the way i think about it is to be guided by my "moral compass" | 12:38 |
| jelkner | as long as i'm heading in the direction of "doing what is right" | 12:38 |
| jelkner | i will accept and live with the consequences | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | You are such a good man jelkner | 12:39 |
| jelkner | wow, we went on an interesting tangent with that! ;-) | 12:39 |
| jelkner | so the question is, is there local work for Jetro? | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | People let you is hard to find | 12:40 |
| thomasboimah | *like* | 12:40 |
| jelkner | i kept dreaming that there would be United Nations work | 12:40 |
| jelkner | i still dream that | 12:40 |
| jelkner | but i don't know | 12:40 |
| thomasboimah | There will be but not compare to the US | 12:40 |
| jelkner | that's ok, thomasboimah | 12:40 |
| jelkner | it is possible to do both | 12:40 |
| jelkner | if the skill sets align | 12:40 |
| jelkner | and i think they do | 12:41 |
| jelkner | let me give you and example that came up when we had that party before i left last time | 12:41 |
| jelkner | remember we invited James Cooper to join us | 12:41 |
| jelkner | and i got to talk with him | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:42 |
| jelkner | he was working for a business collecting garbage in Monrovia | 12:42 |
| jelkner | that is a huge problem everywhere | 12:42 |
| jelkner | it is a logistical problem | 12:42 |
| jelkner | how to effectively collect and dispose of waste generated by human activity | 12:42 |
| jelkner | it is also a problem that ICT could really help with | 12:43 |
| jelkner | imagine a web application to help coordinate it | 12:43 |
| jelkner | i emailed james after i left but he never returned my mail | 12:43 |
| jelkner | he said he would introduce me to the funder in the US whom he was working for | 12:44 |
| jelkner | anyway, we should dream of making the lives of people better, right? | 12:44 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:44 |
| jelkner | the most important things in that task are clean water, enough food, sanitation | 12:45 |
| jelkner | that helps people the most, at the least cost | 12:45 |
| jelkner | then there comes more modern health care | 12:45 |
| jelkner | and along with all of that is education | 12:45 |
| jelkner | so our school could play a positive role | 12:46 |
| jelkner | ok, i have to get to work | 12:46 |
| thomasboimah | OKay | 12:46 |
| jelkner | we don't have enough time tomorrow to show a full episode of clean code | 12:46 |
| thomasboimah | Thanks for the time | 12:46 |
| jelkner | so we will probably do that friday | 12:47 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 12:47 |
| jelkner | great chatting with you! | 12:47 |
| jelkner | but do drop in during our class time if you can | 12:47 |
| jelkner | dcammue, are you in the office yet? | 12:47 |
| jelkner | where is svaye and what is the update on mr. zawolo? | 12:47 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, is cleaning to move in | 12:47 |
| jelkner | ok, thanks | 12:47 |
| jelkner | please keep me posted | 12:48 |
| thomasboimah | We have not yet hear for MR. zawolo | 12:48 |
| thomasboimah | since they text him | 12:48 |
| jelkner | if they text him and he doesn't reply | 12:48 |
| jelkner | you can make that my task | 12:48 |
| jelkner | since i can walk to his classroom | 12:48 |
| jelkner | and talk to him in person once we get back to school | 12:48 |
| dcammue | I am cleaning up the office so i can move any time this week or next week | 12:48 |
| jelkner | just let me know | 12:48 |
| jelkner | thanks dcammue | 12:49 |
| dcammue | Okay | 12:49 |
| jelkner | let's meet again wednesday at the same time | 12:49 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day... | 12:49 |
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