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| fkoikoi | Good Morning jelkner | 11:58 |
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| gaprinho | Greetings jelkner, hope you're doing good | 11:58 |
| jelkner | Today i will watch the 2nd TDD episode with my django students and prepare to begin learning TDD. No blockers. | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | During the weekend, I worked with zOnny to back up old partner website data from the PRT-07 and PRT-05 Linode servers in case they return asking for it, and we took the servers down. Today, I will be working on my UoPeople discussion forum and we will be watching the CleanCode-E06-TDD-Part2.m4v video. No blockers. | 12:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 12:00 |
| jelkner | so great to hear that two more servers were taken down thomasboimah! | 12:00 |
| svaye | during the week I read more on Liberian tax law and starlink, I also shared a file with Jetroweb and jelkner on the next cloud please check it out, today I will continue with my reading | 12:00 |
| gaprinho | Saturday i work with zonny in navigating the libreorganize, we work on cloning the repo and also set up the theme so i can start to work on it | 12:01 |
| dcammue | During the weekend, i worked on a project for jetroweb"JetrowebAttendence," and i have finally moved to the jetroweb office. Today, i will continue with the attendance project | 12:01 |
| gaprinho | no blocker for now | 12:01 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 12:01 |
| gaprinho | ACTION done | 12:01 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 12:01 |
| jelkner | svaye: i find it is a nice idea to try to balance reading with doing | 12:02 |
| jelkner | so having both a theory task (reading) and a practice task (something concrete you accomplish) helps you be more productive | 12:02 |
| jelkner | dcammue: please check out the irc logs from yesterday | 12:02 |
| dcammue | Okay | 12:03 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah and dcammue, i had an additional long phone chat with zOnny | 12:03 |
| fkoikoi | During the week I did some research on both the technical and non technical aspect of decidim and read chapter 2 to 2.3. Today I plan to continue | 12:03 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION done | 12:03 |
| jelkner | he will be taking on more and more leadership as he figures out what is going on | 12:03 |
| jelkner | you should all watch what he does, and try to do similarly ;-) | 12:03 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 12:03 |
| gaprinho | sure | 12:04 |
| svaye | jelkner, what I am reading can't be apply now because jetroweb is not actively running a business in Liberia so the tax law doesn't affect us now. | 12:04 |
| jelkner | the most important topic we talked about was moving Jetro to a business footing | 12:04 |
| jelkner | something i've been discussing with you for almost 2 years now | 12:04 |
| jelkner | and which we are finally ready to do | 12:04 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: did the two of you finish the PDF with instructions on how to create a Linode nanode for our customers? | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:05 |
| jelkner | awesome! | 12:05 |
| jelkner | dcammue: you need to learn how to do accounting for that | 12:05 |
| jelkner | let's think about it | 12:05 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah needs to get paid for that work | 12:05 |
| dcammue | Okay | 12:06 |
| jelkner | but it doesn't come directly from a particular customer account | 12:06 |
| jelkner | instead, it is the kind of *operating expense* that we will have a lot of | 12:06 |
| jelkner | the cost of maintaining the business | 12:06 |
| jelkner | in fact, dcammue, that's where you will be paid from at first | 12:07 |
| jelkner | and mostly | 12:07 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:07 |
| jelkner | to make Jetro operate productively, web development customers need to be charged enough to cover both the direct cost of their particular project | 12:07 |
| jelkner | *and* the cost of maintaining Jetro as a business (to cover billing, payroll, etc.) | 12:08 |
| jelkner | i don't know how to do this | 12:08 |
| jelkner | but we need to learn! | 12:08 |
| jelkner | we can start with small steps | 12:08 |
| jelkner | by taking particular things we are doing | 12:08 |
| jelkner | and trying to account for them properly | 12:08 |
| jelkner | little by little, we will learn | 12:08 |
| jelkner | dcammue, you still have $5K coming as part of your grant | 12:09 |
| jelkner | you need to plan | 12:09 |
| jelkner | to think about how you will use those funds to help launch your business | 12:09 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:09 |
| jelkner | if you do it well, you increase the chances that another grant may come your way (hint, hint ;-) | 12:10 |
| jelkner | i don't think you are ready yet to stand completely on your own | 12:10 |
| jelkner | but you need to be showing real concrete progress that you are getting closer | 12:10 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, great to see you here | 12:11 |
| jelkner | i haven't seen jkollie in a bit | 12:11 |
| fkoikoi | great to see you too jelkner | 12:11 |
| jelkner | for you two, the deliverables will be measurable engagement in our NoVASEN Decidim | 12:11 |
| thomasboimah | she is not feel well | 12:11 |
| jelkner | i haven't seen anything lately | 12:11 |
| jelkner | and i'm confused | 12:12 |
| thomasboimah | jkollie is not feeling well | 12:12 |
| jelkner | ok, i hope she feels better soon | 12:12 |
| fkoikoi | jelkner i still don't have access to the platform | 12:12 |
| jelkner | why, fkoikoi? | 12:12 |
| jelkner | we know the email system isn't working properly | 12:13 |
| jelkner | but can't klarios add you? | 12:13 |
| jelkner | or tony? | 12:13 |
| fkoikoi | I haven't gotten the confirmation email | 12:13 |
| jelkner | yes, we are having problems with email | 12:13 |
| jelkner | i believe kei and tony have a meeting with guillaume this week | 12:13 |
| jelkner | they will be bringing this up | 12:13 |
| fkoikoi | during our last meeting Kei and anthony said that they don't have such power and was going to email | 12:14 |
| jelkner | ah | 12:14 |
| jelkner | ok, that is terrible | 12:14 |
| jelkner | we are blocking on something outside our control | 12:14 |
| jelkner | things like this will happen | 12:14 |
| fkoikoi | that's right jelkner | 12:14 |
| jelkner | we talked about it at our last RABT meeting | 12:14 |
| jelkner | dcammue all of this is connected | 12:14 |
| jelkner | we need to get freena and janet at our next RABT meeting | 12:15 |
| jelkner | or as soon as possible | 12:15 |
| jelkner | that means having them at the office, using Starlink on a machine in which the camera and mic "just work" | 12:15 |
| jelkner | we don't have time to mess around with broken tech | 12:15 |
| jelkner | we are technologists | 12:15 |
| jelkner | we need to make it work! | 12:15 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:16 |
| svaye | jelkner, | 12:16 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: i'll be bringing several nice laptops that i'v been testing here | 12:16 |
| jelkner | they work great | 12:16 |
| jelkner | yes, svaye? | 12:16 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 12:16 |
| jelkner | but until then, setup the best machine you have | 12:17 |
| jelkner | update it's software | 12:17 |
| jelkner | and make sure it works | 12:17 |
| svaye | jelkner, we don't know how soon Mr Zawolo is going to send his contribution for the office requirements | 12:17 |
| jelkner | svaye: you really need to bug him | 12:17 |
| jelkner | today is his birthday by the way | 12:17 |
| jelkner | he promised me he would help | 12:17 |
| jelkner | i will talk to him here | 12:17 |
| jelkner | but you need to keep talking to him from there | 12:18 |
| svaye | I am bugging him jelkner , I even sent him a message this morning but he hasn't responded | 12:18 |
| jelkner | i will remind him of his commitment | 12:18 |
| jelkner | i feel confident he will honor it | 12:18 |
| jelkner | but you need to work out the details with him | 12:18 |
| jelkner | he could just donate to SJC | 12:18 |
| jelkner | he is a board member | 12:18 |
| jelkner | then i could transfer it to you | 12:18 |
| jelkner | but you need to get him to do it! | 12:18 |
| jelkner | if he wants to give me a check (or cash), i'll take it | 12:19 |
| jelkner | but *you* need to tell him! | 12:19 |
| jelkner | ok, i have to go! | 12:19 |
| jelkner | wish mr. zawolo a happy birthday today | 12:19 |
| jelkner | see you wednesday | 12:19 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until wednesday | 12:20 |
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| Karaaaaa | hello dcammue do you know if thomas is able to join us? | 16:35 |
| jelkner | Hello dcammue | 16:36 |
| dcammue | Hi | 16:37 |
| dcammue | jelkner: | 16:37 |
| dcammue | Hmm, let me check Karaaaaa | 16:37 |
| Karaaaaa | thanks, we have to start because of class times but jelkner will catch up later with you | 16:42 |
| Karaaaaa | start project with something executing | 16:50 |
| jgurara | u are not alalowed to write production code until u have a failing unit test | 16:50 |
| thomasboimah | Hello | 16:52 |
| thomasboimah | World | 16:52 |
| dcammue | Okay thomasboimah | 16:54 |
| jelkner | Hi thomasboimah | 17:03 |
| thomasboimah | Hi jelkner | 17:04 |
| jelkner | we are watching the 2nd episode of Clean Code episode 6 | 17:04 |
| jelkner | great episdoe | 17:04 |
| jelkner | episode | 17:04 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah I am following | 17:04 |
| jelkner | it walks through the bowling game | 17:04 |
| jgurara | treat your tests like production code: dont allow your tests to become a mess | 17:28 |
| Karaaaaa | to add tests to code without them, change the design of something small and add tests as well as continue to add tests with new features | 17:34 |
| jgurara | you dont ship code that you dont know works | 17:45 |
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| jelkner | thomasboimah: still here? | 17:54 |
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| thomasboimah | Yes | 17:54 |
| jelkner | cool, we just finished the video and the bell rang | 17:55 |
| jelkner | so they just left | 17:55 |
| jelkner | can we talk about wednesday? | 17:55 |
| thomasboimah | Sure | 17:55 |
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| jelkner | They have early release on wednesday | 17:56 |
| jelkner | So they will be here when? | 17:56 |
| jelkner | https://ict.gracehopper.center/static/info/ACC_BellSchedule_SY2526.pdf | 17:56 |
| thomasboimah | By 10:20 | 17:57 |
| jelkner | +1 | 17:57 |
| jelkner | so we haven't done this for a long while | 17:57 |
| jelkner | but do you remember when mulbah was experimenting with the remote screen sharing with Kevin Cole? | 17:58 |
| jelkner | tmux i think? | 17:58 |
| thomasboimah | It is tmate | 17:58 |
| jelkner | cool | 17:58 |
| jelkner | can we try that again on wednesday | 17:58 |
| jelkner | so that you can pair with Kara? | 17:59 |
| thomasboimah | Sure | 17:59 |
| jelkner | awesome | 17:59 |
| jelkner | the only other thing we need to do is learn which Unit testing framework is used by Django | 17:59 |
| jelkner | we aren't going to start Django yet | 17:59 |
| jelkner | but we should use the same testing framework | 18:00 |
| jelkner | so that we can transition to Django more smoothly | 18:00 |
| jelkner | i'm going to put you in two pairs: you and Kara in one pair, Josh and Ben in the other | 18:00 |
| thomasboimah | Okay, nice fine with me | 18:00 |
| jelkner | and have you both go through the bowling game | 18:00 |
| jelkner | in Python | 18:00 |
| jelkner | committing your work as you go | 18:01 |
| jelkner | that's our challenge | 18:01 |
| jelkner | ok, i have to go | 18:01 |
| thomasboimah | Alright | 18:01 |
| jelkner | let's chat more wednesday morning | 18:01 |
| thomasboimah | Okay have a nice dag | 18:01 |
| thomasboimah | *day | 18:01 |
| jelkner | you too! | 18:01 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 18:01 |
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